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Title: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: watto-drfc on October 23, 2020, 07:14:55 pm
Monday 7pm on BBC 2
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Chris the Rover on October 23, 2020, 07:21:44 pm
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Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: elmsallrover on October 23, 2020, 07:56:15 pm
What happens if we draw a non league club away where supporters are allowed to attend can we all turn up
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: drfchound on October 23, 2020, 08:02:04 pm
Not if it is outside of tier 3 South Yorkshire.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: EasyforDennis on October 23, 2020, 09:28:04 pm
Not if it is outside of tier 3 South Yorkshire.

Sorry but you are wrong. There is nothing in the Tier3 rules that state you cannot travel.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Janso on October 23, 2020, 10:00:27 pm
Will it be streamed when we play? it won't be covered by the agreement will it.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Alan Southstand on October 23, 2020, 10:11:26 pm
Travel out of or into a high level area is advisory only.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: NigelJ on October 24, 2020, 05:31:42 pm
What happens if we draw a non league club away where supporters are allowed to attend can we all turn up

From the FA website:

We have continued to liaise with Government regarding attendance of spectators at Emirates FA Cup fixtures in light of the recent Government announcements.

Following the latest discussions, Government has confirmed its position remains the same and the following will apply to all remaining matches in this season’s Qualifying competition, unless communicated otherwise:

• Where an elite club is playing another elite club, the match must be played behind closed doors (i.e. with no spectators permitted to be in attendance)
• Where an elite club is playing a non-elite club:
o Where the match is played at the elite club’s ground, the match must be played behind closed doors (i.e. with no spectators permitted to be in attendance)
o Where the match is played at the non-elite club’s ground, spectators of the home club only shall be permitted to attend the match in accordance with the latest applicable National League System Spectator Guidance.
Both clubs shall ensure that spectators of the visiting club are not in attendance at the match.
• Where a non-elite club is playing another non-elite club, spectators (of both the home and visiting clubs) shall be permitted to attend the match in accordance with the latest applicable National League System Spectator Guidance.
[For clarity, clubs in Steps 1 & 2 of the FA National League System are considered to be “elite clubs” and clubs in Step 3 and below of the FA National League System are considered to be “non-elite clubs”.]
The FA recognises the importance of having fans, including those of away clubs, at Emirates FA Cup fixtures and is fully committed to the safe return of fans to football grounds as soon as possible.

.......so, presumably the coronavirus will steer clear of you, if you support a lower-level team, whereas it will infect you if you dare to support a higher-level team. This nonsense defies logic. If they openly came out and said that higher volumes of well-supported teams may cause an issue with ground security etc, I would have a little more respect for this statement.

Secondly, I have just read a story about watching football matches at the cinema is now happening. How on earth can this be less dangerous that watching in a OUTDOOR setting, and being placed much further apart?

It's all absolute nonsense.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Donnywolf on October 24, 2020, 05:32:39 pm
Travel out of or into a high level area is advisory only.


 :that: :that: :that: 100 % that
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Padge_DRFC on October 24, 2020, 05:59:36 pm
Corona virus only attacks football league fans
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: scawsby steve on October 24, 2020, 06:06:41 pm
Corona virus only attacks football league fans

That's right. It obviously leaves non-league fans and cinema goers alone.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: drfchound on October 24, 2020, 06:12:15 pm
Not if it is outside of tier 3 South Yorkshire.

Sorry but you are wrong. There is nothing in the Tier3 rules that state you cannot travel.






Legally, yes it is permitted to travel out of a tier three area but because it is advisory wouldn’t it be irresponsible to travel to an away game that was outside of South Yorkshire.
Surely you wouldn’t want to put people at risk.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: NigelJ on October 24, 2020, 06:14:40 pm
Not if it is outside of tier 3 South Yorkshire.

Sorry but you are wrong. There is nothing in the Tier3 rules that state you cannot travel.






Legally, yes it is permitted to travel out of a tier three area but because it is advisory wouldn’t it be irresponsible to travel to an away game that was outside of South Yorkshire.
Surely you wouldn’t want to put people at risk.

What about travelling to another Tier 3 area?
What if you don't live in a tier 3 area (eg Nottinghamshire), but support a team from a tier 3 area?
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: scawsby steve on October 24, 2020, 06:22:11 pm
It's all irrelevant. At the moment, as supporters of an EFL club, we're not allowed to travel to an FA Cup match anywhere.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: NigelJ on October 24, 2020, 06:29:02 pm
It's all irrelevant. At the moment, as supporters of an EFL club, we're not allowed to travel to an FA Cup match anywhere.

And that's my point, so I really don't understand why you say 'it's all irrelevant'.
I'm pointing out how unreasonable the restriction is!
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: scawsby steve on October 24, 2020, 06:41:04 pm
It's all irrelevant. At the moment, as supporters of an EFL club, we're not allowed to travel to an FA Cup match anywhere.

And that's my point, so I really don't understand why you say 'it's all irrelevant'.
I'm pointing out how unreasonable the restriction is!

I mean it's irrelevant whatever lockdown tier any club is in. According to the statement you posted above, it's all to do with National League Spectator Guidance.

If you read my post on the other thread regarding my opinion on non-league grounds and cinemas showing football, you'll see that I'm actually agreeing with you.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: elmsallrover on October 24, 2020, 06:43:17 pm
What if its pay on the gate
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Donnywolf on October 24, 2020, 06:46:30 pm
Hope its Barnard Castle United
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: vaya on October 24, 2020, 07:01:34 pm
Hope its Barnard Castle United

Can't see it happening.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: sheffield exile1 on October 24, 2020, 07:55:04 pm
This thread shows 2 things. The absolute shambles of where we are now-assume if we played the game in a soft play area in Lancashire but not Liverpool 20 minutes down the road, calling for a pint in a substantial meal pub but not a spit and sawdust, calling at a local gym (sorry that one is closed) need I go on. In March lock down meant err well lock down, now it depends on your shoe size south or north facing establishment. Look its not a dig at anyone as this virus is still very dangerous, but the rules are getting more vague and confusing meaning people will either comply but could innocently fall foul and people who think f*** it and just do whatever.
Secondly I get the frustration of not seeing live football but it has to be in a safe environment and the West Ham cinema v Stadium today beggars belief. Totally agree with Moyes....it helps no-one. No solutions but my ten pennorth...
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: DearneValleyRover on October 24, 2020, 07:55:31 pm
If it’s not Oldham it has to be Bolton away doesn’t it
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Campsall rover on October 24, 2020, 08:08:53 pm
If it’s not Oldham it has to be Bolton away doesn’t it
Or Exeter or Plymouth or anyone 300 miles from Doncaster.
But it doesn’t affect us because we can’t go anyway.

So guaranteed to be Harrogate Town away. Now that will seriously p..s me off.  :that:
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: elmsallrover on October 24, 2020, 09:02:19 pm
Can you still get a ladder to see over the fence at Harrogate
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Padge_DRFC on October 24, 2020, 10:56:54 pm
So we draw marine afc who normally get a 100 fans how do they know I'm a marine or Rovers fan?
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: scawsby steve on October 24, 2020, 10:59:53 pm
So we draw marine afc who normally get a 100 fans how do they know I'm a marine or Rovers fan?

You'd have to be completely muted when we score Padge.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Campsall rover on October 24, 2020, 11:07:34 pm
Can you still get a ladder to see over the fence at Harrogate
A long one needed. But not as long as would be needed at the Keepmoat.  ;)
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Campsall rover on October 24, 2020, 11:26:27 pm
So we draw marine afc who normally get a 100 fans how do they know I'm a marine or Rovers fan?
Can you do a scouse accent?
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: les@donr on October 25, 2020, 01:45:00 am
Northampton away, join the locals and watch the game on the hill above the stadium, obviously social distancing.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: DearneValleyRover on October 25, 2020, 07:53:32 am
If it’s not Oldham it has to be Bolton away doesn’t it
Or Exeter or Plymouth or anyone 300 miles from Doncaster.
But it doesn’t affect us because we can’t go anyway.

So guaranteed to be Harrogate Town away. Now that will seriously p..s me off.  :that:

Obviously missed the point of my post
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Padge_DRFC on October 25, 2020, 08:31:28 am
So we draw marine afc who normally get a 100 fans how do they know I'm a marine or Rovers fan?
Can you do a scouse accent?

Ye I'll make sure I sound like I'm about to spit in people's face as I talk
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: dknward2 on October 25, 2020, 10:12:55 am
We are ball 16

Bit odd one for me do we go out and win try and get a bit of money or go out early on cut down on the games played in this compacted season
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on October 25, 2020, 11:34:02 am
the 4th round qualifying matches seem to have been decided over 90 minutes  :thumbdown:

chessie got thru on pens having been beaten by the same team at home last saturday by Stockport
surprisingly halifax knocked out

if it is pens after 90 minutes  it gives  the tiddlers a better chance

how about us playing Cray Valley Paper Mills  (wonder if then can make "cheap" £5 notes)

that would be bound to be on bbc

Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Campsall rover on October 25, 2020, 03:22:08 pm
If it’s not Oldham it has to be Bolton away doesn’t it
Or Exeter or Plymouth or anyone 300 miles from Doncaster.
But it doesn’t affect us because we can’t go anyway.

So guaranteed to be Harrogate Town away. Now that will seriously p..s me off.  :that:

Obviously missed the point of my post
Right I am with you.  :)
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Campsall rover on October 25, 2020, 03:29:20 pm
So we draw marine afc who normally get a 100 fans how do they know I'm a marine or Rovers fan?
Can you do a scouse accent?

Ye I'll make sure I sound like I'm about to spit in people's face as I talk
Not a good idea with the current pandemic Padge.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: VivaRovers on October 26, 2020, 02:25:42 pm
Hoping for Cray Valley Paper Mills away, as it’s walking distance from me and I’ve also been there twice this season already meaning I’m on their ticketing database.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Campsall rover on October 26, 2020, 04:42:06 pm
Hoping for Cray Valley Paper Mills away, as it’s walking distance from me and I’ve also been there twice this season already meaning I’m on their ticketing database.
Who the heck are they Viva? Thought i new my non league teams but they are a new one on me.
Isn’t there a Cray Wanderers?
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Padge_DRFC on October 26, 2020, 04:52:03 pm
I hope we get really boring draws this year. However if we make the third round you just know we'll get Man Utd away behind closed doors
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Campsall rover on October 26, 2020, 05:04:04 pm
I hope we get really boring draws this year. However if we make the third round you just know we'll get Man Utd away behind closed doors
I’m taking my big ladders to that one.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: VivaRovers on October 26, 2020, 05:13:05 pm
Hoping for Cray Valley Paper Mills away, as it’s walking distance from me and I’ve also been there twice this season already meaning I’m on their ticketing database.
Who the heck are they Viva? Thought i new my non league teams but they are a new one on me.
Isn’t there a Cray Wanderers?

Yep Cray Wanderers are one of (if not the) oldest clubs in London. They ground share with Bromley, but are finally getting their own ground soon.

Cray Valley Paper Mills have been around a decent while and play in Eltham but have generally been in the Southern Counties East League (equivalent level to Armthorpe and Rossington Main). They went up to the Isthmian League South For the first time last season; this is by far their best ever FA Cup run. I was at their 3rd Qualifying Round win over Aveley the other week.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: drfchound on October 26, 2020, 06:36:31 pm
Hoping for Cray Valley Paper Mills away, as it’s walking distance from me and I’ve also been there twice this season already meaning I’m on their ticketing database.
Who the heck are they Viva? Thought i new my non league teams but they are a new one on me.
Isn’t there a Cray Wanderers?

Yep Cray Wanderers are one of (if not the) oldest clubs in London. They ground share with Bromley, but are finally getting their own ground soon.

Cray Valley Paper Mills have been around a decent while and play in Eltham but have generally been in the Southern Counties East League (equivalent level to Armthorpe and Rossington Main). They went up to the Isthmian League South For the first time last season; this is by far their best ever FA Cup run. I was at their 3rd Qualifying Round win over Aveley the other week.






So if we get them you could send a dossier to DM telling him what their weaknesses are.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: sheffield exile1 on October 26, 2020, 06:46:23 pm
Hoping for Cray Valley Paper Mills away, as it’s walking distance from me and I’ve also been there twice this season already meaning I’m on their ticketing database.
Who the heck are they Viva? Thought i new my non league teams but they are a new one on me.
Isn’t there a Cray Wanderers?

Yep Cray Wanderers are one of (if not the) oldest clubs in London. They ground share with Bromley, but are finally getting their own ground soon.

Cray Valley Paper Mills have been around a decent while and play in Eltham but have generally been in the Southern Counties East League (equivalent level to Armthorpe and Rossington Main). They went up to the Isthmian League South For the first time last season; this is by far their best ever FA Cup run. I was at their 3rd Qualifying Round win over Aveley the other week.






So if we get them you could send a dossier to DM telling him what their weaknesses are.

The dossier would surely be paper thin? (I'll get my coat!)
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Campsall rover on October 26, 2020, 06:53:20 pm
Hoping for Cray Valley Paper Mills away, as it’s walking distance from me and I’ve also been there twice this season already meaning I’m on their ticketing database.
Who the heck are they Viva? Thought i new my non league teams but they are a new one on me.
Isn’t there a Cray Wanderers?

Yep Cray Wanderers are one of (if not the) oldest clubs in London. They ground share with Bromley, but are finally getting their own ground soon.

Cray Valley Paper Mills have been around a decent while and play in Eltham but have generally been in the Southern Counties East League (equivalent level to Armthorpe and Rossington Main). They went up to the Isthmian League South For the first time last season; this is by far their best ever FA Cup run. I was at their 3rd Qualifying Round win over Aveley the other week.






So if we get them you could send a dossier to DM telling him what their weaknesses are.

The dossier would surely be paper thin? (I'll get my coat!)
:chair: :chair: :chair: I think is appropriate.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Alan Southstand on October 26, 2020, 07:21:44 pm
Nearly Old Trafford!
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Crowle Rover on October 26, 2020, 07:23:30 pm
Good chance of our tie being on the box
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: stuey on October 26, 2020, 07:25:43 pm
Defo be on telly. BBC love that club
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: drfchound on October 26, 2020, 07:29:14 pm
Should be a good game.
Their manager just spoke some nice words about us.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Rovers91 on October 26, 2020, 07:33:01 pm
Shame we cant go but would expect it to be on the telly.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Campsall rover on October 26, 2020, 07:35:04 pm
Decent draw. Not too far away and a game we should win comfortably.

But this is the FA Cup and some one will do a giant killing. We need to make sure it’s not us on the end of one. If we are focused on getting the job done then i am sure we will be in the 2nd round draw.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: essexrover on October 26, 2020, 07:35:13 pm
Defo be on telly. BBC love that club
Are you getting confused with Salford City ? Every media outlet in the country (not just the BBC)are forever going in about their illustrious owners 🙄
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Campsall rover on October 26, 2020, 07:36:44 pm
Defo be on telly. BBC love that club
Are you getting confused with Salford City ? Every media outlet in the country (not just the BBC)are forever going in about their illustrious owners 🙄
BBC are based on Salford Quays.  ;)
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Alan Southstand on October 26, 2020, 07:42:33 pm
FC United are in the Northern Premier League, or whatever it’s known as now. About mid-table, currently.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Campsall rover on October 26, 2020, 07:44:53 pm
Don’t see it being on TV far more chance of Salford v Hartlepool

As has been said the BBC love Salford. Neville, Scholes & Butt being high profile owners of the club.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: essexrover on October 26, 2020, 07:45:16 pm
FC United are in the Northern Premier League, or whatever it’s known as now. About mid-table, currently.
Yeah I think they got relegated from National League North last season didn't they ?
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: scawsby steve on October 26, 2020, 07:52:09 pm
Don’t see it being on TV far more chance of Salford v Hartlepool

As has been said the BBC love Salford. Neville, Scholes & Butt being high profile owners of the club.

And Beckham, Giggs, and the other Neville as well.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: stuey on October 26, 2020, 07:56:22 pm
Defo be on telly. BBC love that club

Are you getting confused with Salford City ? Every media outlet in the country (not just the BBC)are forever going in about their illustrious owners 🙄
Defo be on telly. BBC love that club

Aye ya reyt. Still a decent chance though
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Campsall rover on October 26, 2020, 08:06:32 pm
Don’t see it being on TV far more chance of Salford v Hartlepool

As has been said the BBC love Salford. Neville, Scholes & Butt being high profile owners of the club.

And Beckham, Giggs, and the other Neville as well.
I didnt think Beckham and Giggs were involved SS. I stand to be corrected.  :)
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: donnievic on October 26, 2020, 08:08:54 pm
Don’t see it being on TV far more chance of Salford v Hartlepool

As has been said the BBC love Salford. Neville, Scholes & Butt being high profile owners of the club.
cant see a league team at home to a non league side being on tv no matter who they are
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Campsall rover on October 26, 2020, 08:09:12 pm
FC United are in the Northern Premier League, or whatever it’s known as now. About mid-table, currently.
Yeah I think they got relegated from National League North last season didn't they ?
They did.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: POD on October 26, 2020, 08:13:01 pm
I think that we have a good chance of having one of the TV games.  The standout game is Ipswich v Portsmouth, but most of the other big clubs have home games which are not usually favoured by TV as they prefer the smaller team to be at home.   There are plenty of Non-League V League ties, but I can’t remember FCUM being on TV before at this stage, so I think we have as good a chance as any.   The FCUM manager was featured on the BBC show and he said that he was happy to be playing one of the bigger teams with such a good history. 
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: drfchound on October 26, 2020, 08:14:51 pm
Yep, I agree with that POD.
I will be surprised if we aren’t one of the televised matches.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Draytonian III on October 26, 2020, 08:18:53 pm
If you look at FCUM’s Wikipedia past players page there’s quite a few familiar lower league names including an odd Rovers connection
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: graingrover on October 26, 2020, 08:22:08 pm
I am delighted we have drawn them.They represent the counter to all that we are coming to despise in football ..the prima donnas and moguls pf the Premiership .They are a club with real values based on the community .
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Padge_DRFC on October 26, 2020, 08:24:41 pm
Their fans allowed in?
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: drfchound on October 26, 2020, 08:25:03 pm
I don’t think so Padge.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Chris the Rover on October 26, 2020, 08:25:35 pm
Couldn’t agree more graingrover. That won’t stop me being highly delighted if we leather them. A good chance to make some well needed money and I’m sure DM will appreciate that.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: scawsby steve on October 26, 2020, 08:28:02 pm
Their fans allowed in?

No fans are allowed anywhere in the FA Cup first round this year.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Mr1Croft on October 26, 2020, 08:35:06 pm
I think that we have a good chance of having one of the TV games.  The standout game is Ipswich v Portsmouth, but most of the other big clubs have home games which are not usually favoured by TV as they prefer the smaller team to be at home.   There are plenty of Non-League V League ties, but I can’t remember FCUM being on TV before at this stage, so I think we have as good a chance as any.   The FCUM manager was featured on the BBC show and he said that he was happy to be playing one of the bigger teams with such a good history.

In both occasions FCUM have made the first round of the FA Cup, they were both televised matches. Rochdale away in 2010 and Chesterfield at home in 2015.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Campsall rover on October 26, 2020, 09:18:47 pm
Well we nearly got Oldham again. Only a few miles away.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: RoversAlias on October 26, 2020, 09:33:52 pm
Don’t see it being on TV far more chance of Salford v Hartlepool

As has been said the BBC love Salford. Neville, Scholes & Butt being high profile owners of the club.

And Beckham, Giggs, and the other Neville as well.
I didnt think Beckham and Giggs were involved SS. I stand to be corrected.  :)


They are, it's the Nevilles, Scholes, Giggs, Beckham and Butt. Peter Lim is the money man.

FC United are the club borne out of Man Utd fans hating the Glazers takeover but their upward mobility stalled a couple of seasons ago.

I'd have loved this tie in any other year, so a real shame it has happened when we can't go.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: POD on October 26, 2020, 09:35:13 pm
I think that we have a good chance of having one of the TV games.  The standout game is Ipswich v Portsmouth, but most of the other big clubs have home games which are not usually favoured by TV as they prefer the smaller team to be at home.   There are plenty of Non-League V League ties, but I can’t remember FCUM being on TV before at this stage, so I think we have as good a chance as any.   The FCUM manager was featured on the BBC show and he said that he was happy to be playing one of the bigger teams with such a good history.

In both occasions FCUM have made the first round of the FA Cup, they were both televised matches. Rochdale away in 2010 and Chesterfield at home in 2015.

So it’s every five years that they get to be on TV for the first round tie.   
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: donnievic on October 26, 2020, 10:09:43 pm
Tidy little ground aswell
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: selby on October 26, 2020, 10:21:35 pm
  Not a game to be taken lightly and with our young side they are more than likely more used to cup football being knock out than ourselves.
  And they have drawn a team renowned for being poor in cup competitions.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on October 27, 2020, 11:19:02 am
  Not a game to be taken lightly and with our young side they are more than likely more used to cup football being knock out than ourselves.
  And they have drawn a team renowned for being poor in cup competitions.

i have a funny feeling you are going to eat those words this year (but not necessarily in this competition)
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: graingrover on October 27, 2020, 02:17:11 pm
this is a very nice inside view from Russian tv .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VExaL-nvQfo
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Campsall rover on October 27, 2020, 03:32:33 pm
this is a very nice inside view from Russian tv .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VExaL-nvQfo
Thanks for posting that U Tube Graingrover.  A brilliant watch and informative insight into the formation of the club.

It is a fantastic concept on the way a club should be owned, funded, the community involvement and the principles it’s stands for and those it opposes such as its big corporate brother down the road. The reason why their club was conceived.

It has made me very proud that our club, a club which has its community at its heart, is going to play them in the 1st round of the FA Cup.
Good luck to FC United of Manchester except in our match against them next week of course.

What a terrible shame at least 700/800 of us can’t be there to see the game.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: selby on October 27, 2020, 04:12:39 pm
  CLH, I hope you are right, but the omens are not that good we are out of the League Cup first round and are hovering in the other having drawn and lost already to two Division 2 sides and have not got a good record against U23s sides.
  I think it depends on what sort of side the Wolves put out, and of course the type of side we pick.
  Going on past years being out of all cups before Christmas is par for the course, and it would be interesting just where we would lie in a table of Division 1 and 2 teams over the last twenty years in cup results.
  I live in hope.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: scawsby steve on October 27, 2020, 04:40:44 pm
  Not a game to be taken lightly and with our young side they are more than likely more used to cup football being knock out than ourselves.
  And they have drawn a team renowned for being poor in cup competitions.

The last sentence isn't really relevant to this game though Brian. Whilst I agree with you that we've a poor record in cup competitions, I can only ever remember us losing to one non-league team, Wigan Athletic.

I'm sure some stat experts on here will prove me wrong, but I believe our record against non-league teams is good.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: NickDRFC on October 27, 2020, 04:41:31 pm
  CLH, I hope you are right, but the omens are not that good we are out of the League Cup first round and are hovering in the other having drawn and lost already to two Division 2 sides and have not got a good record against U23s sides.
  I think it depends on what sort of side the Wolves put out, and of course the type of side we pick.
  Going on past years being out of all cups before Christmas is par for the course, and it would be interesting just where we would lie in a table of Division 1 and 2 teams over the last twenty years in cup results.
  I live in hope.


“Being out of all cup competitions before Christmas is par for the course”. Is it?

In the past 5 years, we’ve been out of all competitions before Christmas twice (40%). In the past 10 years, we’ve been out of all of them three times (30%). So depending on your time frame for recent years, we’ve still been in the pot post-Christmas roughly two-thirds of the time.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on October 27, 2020, 04:42:52 pm
werent Exeter non league ??

just to remind you all the Wolves match is on the 10th tuesday after the fa cup match -- this site hasnt got it in the fixtures
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Campsall rover on October 27, 2020, 06:32:48 pm
  Not a game to be taken lightly and with our young side they are more than likely more used to cup football being knock out than ourselves.
  And they have drawn a team renowned for being poor in cup competitions.

The last sentence isn't really relevant to this game though Brian. Whilst I agree with you that we've a poor record in cup competitions, I can only ever remember us losing to one non-league team, Wigan Athletic.

I'm sure some stat experts on here will prove me wrong, but I believe our record against non-league teams is good.
Think we lost to Emley in the FA Trophy. We were a Conference team at the time and Emley in NPL.
So don’t know if we are counting that one?
Or was it Frickley Athletic. Think it may have been. I remember I was away on holiday so missed the match.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on October 27, 2020, 06:39:22 pm
  Not a game to be taken lightly and with our young side they are more than likely more used to cup football being knock out than ourselves.
  And they have drawn a team renowned for being poor in cup competitions.

The last sentence isn't really relevant to this game though Brian. Whilst I agree with you that we've a poor record in cup competitions, I can only ever remember us losing to one non-league team, Wigan Athletic.

I'm sure some stat experts on here will prove me wrong, but I believe our record against non-league teams is good.
Think we lost to Emley in the FA Trophy. We were a Conference team at the time and Emley in NPL.
So don’t know if we are counting that one?

Apparently they had Rovers in a spin, was anyone  on here there to see Emley Play ?
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Campsall rover on October 27, 2020, 06:47:36 pm
  Not a game to be taken lightly and with our young side they are more than likely more used to cup football being knock out than ourselves.
  And they have drawn a team renowned for being poor in cup competitions.

The last sentence isn't really relevant to this game though Brian. Whilst I agree with you that we've a poor record in cup competitions, I can only ever remember us losing to one non-league team, Wigan Athletic.

I'm sure some stat experts on here will prove me wrong, but I believe our record against non-league teams is good.
Think we lost to Emley in the FA Trophy. We were a Conference team at the time and Emley in NPL.
So don’t know if we are counting that one?

Apparently they had Rovers in a spin, was anyone  on here there to see Emley Play ?
You posted CLF before I added that it may have been Frickley Athletic. I have a feeling it was.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: RoversAlias on October 27, 2020, 07:19:15 pm
  Not a game to be taken lightly and with our young side they are more than likely more used to cup football being knock out than ourselves.
  And they have drawn a team renowned for being poor in cup competitions.

The last sentence isn't really relevant to this game though Brian. Whilst I agree with you that we've a poor record in cup competitions, I can only ever remember us losing to one non-league team, Wigan Athletic.

I'm sure some stat experts on here will prove me wrong, but I believe our record against non-league teams is good.
Think we lost to Emley in the FA Trophy. We were a Conference team at the time and Emley in NPL.
So don’t know if we are counting that one?
Or was it Frickley Athletic. Think it may have been. I remember I was away on holiday so missed the match.

Not sure why we'd count that? Every time we lost in the FA Trophy was to a non-league team, because we were too. It's a competition for non-league teams after all.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Padge_DRFC on October 27, 2020, 08:05:21 pm
The Frickley game was on the Clarkson show years ago to.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: les@donr on October 27, 2020, 08:24:59 pm
We got beat by Scarborough in Rd 1, they were non-league and we were in L3 (now Lg 2)
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: selby on October 27, 2020, 10:34:42 pm
  I bet the percentage is a bit different after round three the first week in January, and in a couple of those seasons we didn't start until the third round.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: NickDRFC on October 27, 2020, 11:03:08 pm
  I bet the percentage is a bit different after round three the first week in January, and in a couple of those seasons we didn't start until the third round.

You said that being out of all cup competitions by Christmas was par for the course. It isn’t. It’s only happened in the minority of seasons recently. Us not being in the FA cup final is par for the course, but being out of the competition by Christmas definitely isn’t.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: drfchound on October 29, 2020, 05:06:50 pm
Our first round tie is to be shown live on BBC2 on Saturday 7th November at 5.30pm.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Campsall rover on October 29, 2020, 05:32:06 pm
Our first round tie is to be shown live on BBC2 on Saturday 7th November at 5.30pm.
Great news. Let’s just hope they don’t get the giant killing the BBC will be hoping for.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: selby on October 29, 2020, 05:38:19 pm
  Great to get a bit of coin coming in from TV though Paul, I was wondering why they might have picked us, lets hope for a Chorley at home score
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Campsall rover on October 29, 2020, 05:50:19 pm
  Great to get a bit of coin coming in from TV though Paul, I was wondering why they might have picked us, lets hope for a Chorley at home score
What after a replay. No thanks let’s do it 1st time at their place. I assume you meant that Brian
Which player is going to get 4 goals. Maybe this one is set up for John-Jules.
Having said that 7 different goal scorers would do just fine.

A 1-0 win & i will be quite happy. Round 2 please.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Lincoln Rover on October 29, 2020, 06:05:41 pm
No replays I thought
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Campsall rover on October 29, 2020, 06:09:38 pm
No replays I thought
Well spotted, you beat hound.  ;)

Yes forgot about that. There are no replays.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: selby on October 29, 2020, 06:09:56 pm
  No replays in the FA cup this season Paul, and if we do win 7-0 I would like the first five to be in the first 15 minutes just to calm the nerves.
  Deep down I would be thinking we are the only team in the world that can throw this game away now even if we did.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: Dutch Uncle on October 29, 2020, 09:04:18 pm
  Not a game to be taken lightly and with our young side they are more than likely more used to cup football being knock out than ourselves.
  And they have drawn a team renowned for being poor in cup competitions.

The last sentence isn't really relevant to this game though Brian. Whilst I agree with you that we've a poor record in cup competitions, I can only ever remember us losing to one non-league team, Wigan Athletic.

I'm sure some stat experts on here will prove me wrong, but I believe our record against non-league teams is good.

We have lost in the FA cup to non-league terms on only 7 occasions in our 93 Football League and Conference seasons:

1904-05 Mexborough H 0-0, A 1-3
1927-28 Carlisle A 0-1
1965-66 Wigan H 2-2, A 1-3
1998-99 Rushden & Diamonds H 1-1, A 2-4
2000-01 Southport H 2-2, A 0-1
2003-04 Scarborough A 0-1
2004-05 Exeter A 1-2

A few comments:

In 1904-05 we were re-elected to the league (Division 2) late and were unprepared. We gained only 8 points all season and it was no great surprise when we lost to non-league opposition.

In 1998-99 and 2000-01 we were in the Conference ourselves and we played a team in the same Division.

In both 1965-66 (Div 4) and 2003-04 (the same but now called Div 3) we went on to win a League title.

In 2004-05, exactly 100 years after the first time, we lost to a non-league team when we were playing higher than Tier 4 in the league.

I am not counting our withdrawal against Fryston Colliery in 1923-24 in a preliminary round. Again we were re-elected very late to the Football League, in fact after the FA Cup preliminary round draw had been made. We withdrew partly because we felt as a league club we should be entering the competition later with all the other league teams, and partly because of the resulting fixture congestion.  Fryston were awarded a victory.



Over those 93 seasons our record against non-league teams is;

Home W19, D8, L0 F74 A18; Away: W14 D4 L7 F48 L31

Not as bad as many other lower league teams

Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: scawsby steve on October 29, 2020, 09:27:36 pm
Thanks Dutch.
Title: Re: FA Cup 1st Round Draw
Post by: selby on October 30, 2020, 04:30:56 pm
I will take the TV money gladley, anything else is a bonus and until the result is known I will carry on rubbing my lucky rabbits foot every night before I go to sleep, which will be later and later as the game gets nearer because of worry.