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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Filo on March 26, 2024, 08:30:31 pm
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What a cart horse, how does he get anywhere near the England squad?
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Southgate
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Clever and a good choice, give the opposition a false sense of security putting dunce in.
He won’t get anywhere near a start if others are fit.
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How on earth is he ahead of Branthwaite in the pecking order?
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Injury prone first choice back 4. Shaw doesn't even look like a footballer in physique.
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Branthwaite a left footed centre half can’t get on in 2 friendlies. Tomori can’t even make the squad while Southgate persists with Lewis donkey dunk who he has seen plenty
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I think there’s still a fair bit of billy sharp bias going off here
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I think there’s still a fair bit of billy sharp bias going off here
Not at all, if he hasn’t got the confidence to attack that ball with his left foot and boot it out instead of trying the awkward way with his right foot, he should be nowhere near an international set up
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Yes he made a mistake.
Still a very good premier league centre half
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He’s a good premier league defender but not good enough to play for England. Southgate should have been blooding Branthwaite or Tomori tonight rather than persisting with someone who isn’t good enough now and is never going to get any better.
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Yes he made a mistake.
Still a very good premier league centre half
It wasn’t a mistake, he had no confidence to take it on his left foot, it was the natural foot to take it on in that situation, he’s not in the top 10 PL centre halves
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I think there’s still a fair bit of billy sharp bias going off here
Definitely from me. bas**rd.
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Tomori is mystifying absence.
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Whether you like him or not, he's a very good centre half. You don't get to play that many games over such a long period with alot in the top flight now without being good at your trade.
That error aside, he's performed well in his appearances to date. Maybe not first choice but a good back up.
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Whether you like him or not, he's a very good centre half. You don't get to play that many games over such a long period with alot in the top flight now without being good at your trade.
That error aside, he's performed well in his appearances to date. Maybe not first choice but a good back up.
Can’t argue with that DBR.
We don’t like Dunk coz of what happened all those years ago but he has had a very good career in the top flight.
All players make mistakes.
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Decent player no doubt but can't see the case for playing him at his age in friendlies when there are so many other prospects to have a look at. He's never going to be our first choice centre back, someone like Branthwaite could be one day.
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But at the minute he’s picking players for a major tournament a few weeks away. Branthwaite maybe the one with a better international future, but for now going into a major tournament someone with the experience of dunk is a better option
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Whether you like him or not, he's a very good centre half. You don't get to play that many games over such a long period with alot in the top flight now without being good at your trade.
That error aside, he's performed well in his appearances to date. Maybe not first choice but a good back up.
Can’t argue with that DBR.
We don’t like Dunk coz of what happened all those years ago but he has had a very good career in the top flight.
All players make mistakes.
He has had a good career in the EPL but he has five caps, has I think never been part of a squad in the Euros or World Cup, and this season is the very first at age 32 when he has played European club football. Ultimately it is a call for Southgate but in Dier and Tomori there are options playing at a very high level in European football, and in case of Dier, more tournament experience. People might say they are better or worse than Dunk but both have a better case on paper than Dunk.
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He was brilliant against Scotland and with injuries and White off crying like a spoiled baby there's not much options. Braithwaite should have at least had a run out though
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He’s a good premier league defender but not good enough to play for England. Southgate should have been blooding Branthwaite or Tomori tonight rather than persisting with someone who isn’t good enough now and is never going to get any better.
This.
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Selfishly, I was happy as Larry when Dunk did his thing. Horrible fellow in my eyes.And I am good at holding a grudge!
BobG
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Absolute carthorse.
I was at Brighton for that game; hateful specimen.
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Whether you like him or not, he's a very good centre half. You don't get to play that many games over such a long period with alot in the top flight now without being good at your trade.
That error aside, he's performed well in his appearances to date. Maybe not first choice but a good back up.
Can’t argue with that DBR.
We don’t like Dunk coz of what happened all those years ago but he has had a very good career in the top flight.
All players make mistakes.
He has had a good career in the EPL but he has five caps, has I think never been part of a squad in the Euros or World Cup, and this season is the very first at age 32 when he has played European club football. Ultimately it is a call for Southgate but in Dier and Tomori there are options playing at a very high level in European football, and in case of Dier, more tournament experience. People might say they are better or worse than Dunk but both have a better case on paper than Dunk.
This is bang on for me. I can (just about) see the logic for picking Maguire given he’s playing again at Utd, his tournament experience and he must have partnered Stones 30-40 times together, but let’s not pretend that Dunk is vastly experienced at this level. If Colwill or Guehi were fit he probably wouldn’t even have been in this squad so I just don’t see the reasoning for playing him over Branthwaite (or Tomori, but seems like Southgate has made his mind up there).
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Southgate’s eyes must be painted on, if he thinks Dunk is the answer! In fact, GS’s decision making brought into question, in particular, over these last 2 games. He was going to put Mainoo in the U21’s just a few days ago and he was motm v Belgium. The sooner he’s gone, the better, imho.
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Picture this, last minute of the Euros final, Dunk pops up with the winner in a MOTM performance.
Do Donny fans celebrate ?
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I certainly would do.
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I certainly would do.
And me hound.
I was there at Brighton in August 2011 and it was a foul that should have had a red card. No question.
I had a grudge against Dunk for years.
But come on folks it happened over 12 and half years ago.
Lewis Dunk was very young at the time, has gone on to have a very good premier league career all with one club.
He got picked to play for England because he is a very good player. You don’t play for England unless you can play.
Time to move on I think. Holding a grudge for so long on a player who was only 20 yrs old at the time I think is a bit silly if not petty.
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I certainly would do.
And me hound.
I was there at Brighton in August 2011 and it was a foul that should have had a red card. No question.
I had a grudge against Dunk for years.
But come on folks it happened over 12 and half years ago.
Lewis Dunk was very young at the time, has gone on to have a very good premier league career all with one club.
He got picked to play for England because he is a very good player. You don’t play for England unless you can play.
Time to move on I think. Holding a grudge for so long on a player who was only 20 yrs old at the time I think is a bit silly if not petty.
Agreed!
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I think there’s still a fair bit of billy sharp bias going off here
I keep trying to be a better person, but sorry yes you’re totally correct. Every time I see him or hear his name I wish him the worst all because of Billy S.
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I certainly would do.
And me hound.
I was there at Brighton in August 2011 and it was a foul that should have had a red card. No question.
I had a grudge against Dunk for years.
But come on folks it happened over 12 and half years ago....I think is a bit silly if not petty.
passage of time is no excuse - you'll be saying we should forgive Richardson and Weaver next as it was all over 25 years ago ;)
plus - living a few miles away from Brighton - it's a endless source of tiny-minded vitriol that i can throw at the resident B&HA fans down here as and when required :lol:
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Dunk was working to instructions from his horrible manager
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I certainly would do.
And me hound.
I was there at Brighton in August 2011 and it was a foul that should have had a red card. No question.
I had a grudge against Dunk for years.
But come on folks it happened over 12 and half years ago....I think is a bit silly if not petty.
passage of time is no excuse - you'll be saying we should forgive Richardson and Weaver next as it was all over 25 years ago ;)
plus - living a few miles away from Brighton - it's a endless source of tiny-minded vitriol that i can throw at the resident B&HA fans down here as and when required :lol:
Come on HH, Richardson and Weaver are in another stratosphere.
Having a bit of banter with seagull fans about it, fine, fill your boots. Nothing wrong with that. :)
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Dunk was working to instructions from his horrible manager
I wouldn’t disagree with that dude. We don’t have evidence of course but Poyet is the type of person to very likely have told Dunk to nobble Billy.
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With a fit Sharp we might have gained more points in those first couple of months, retained SOD and potentially stayed up.
That’s perhaps why Dunk’s foul still rankles.?
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Hear hear IDM! Would we have been relegated if Billy hadn't been nobbled? SOD staying would have changed that equation significantly.
BobG
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With a fit Sharp we might have gained more points in those first couple of months, retained SOD and potentially stayed up.
That’s perhaps why Dunk’s foul still rankles.?
It still rankles with me. But we need to move on.
Football same as life is full of what might have been’s. What happened happened and the past is the past.
We need to look forward to the next chapter of DRFC’s history. The course of football history for all Clubs is changed by many incidents that happen both on and off the field of play.
Yes an injustice was done but this happens to other clubs as well.
For us to still be talking about this nearly 13 years later is not really healthy. Being bitter is not healthy and I have been guilty of those feelings also for many years after the incident.
We really do need to move on from this.
As for Richardson and what he did to our proud football club, well that was unforgivable and he rightly ended up behind bars for his crimes. That is something we will all remember forever and must never allow to happen again.
Having said that he probably did DRFC a huge favour as the JR era that followed may never have happened and we may have remained a League 2 football club for the entirety of the last 2 decades playing in a run down stadium.
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Don't you mean non league club playing at a rundown ground?
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Don't you mean non league club playing at a rundown ground?
If Richardson had not come along we probably would not have got relegated to the Conference.
So no, i mean League 2.
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Isn’t Richardson brown bread?
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Isn’t Richardson brown bread?
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/news/controversial-former-doncaster-rovers-owner-ken-richardson-dies-at-84-4263574 (https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/news/controversial-former-doncaster-rovers-owner-ken-richardson-dies-at-84-4263574)
Ciabatta believe it.
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Don't you mean non league club playing at a rundown ground?
If Richardson had not come along we probably would not have got relegated to the Conference.
So no, i mean League 2.
But he did Camps which then enabled the JR era. You can't change history
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Isn’t Lewis Dunk, John Marquis’s brother in law, I seem to remember reading it somewhere
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With a fit Sharp we might have gained more points in those first couple of months, retained SOD and potentially stayed up.
That’s perhaps why Dunk’s foul still rankles.?
It still rankles with me. But we need to move on.
Football same as life is full of what might have been’s. What happened happened and the past is the past.
We need to look forward to the next chapter of DRFC’s history. The course of football history for all Clubs is changed by many incidents that happen both on and off the field of play.
Yes an injustice was done but this happens to other clubs as well.
For us to still be talking about this nearly 13 years later is not really healthy. Being bitter is not healthy and I have been guilty of those feelings also for many years after the incident.
We really do need to move on from this.
As for Richardson and what he did to our proud football club, well that was unforgivable and he rightly ended up behind bars for his crimes. That is something we will all remember forever and must never allow to happen again.
Having said that he probably did DRFC a huge favour as the JR era that followed may never have happened and we may have remained a League 2 football club for the entirety of the last 2 decades playing in a run down stadium.
I have moved on, just thinking why this is still potentially an issue, beyond just a nasty foul.
Had this been on a player who wasn’t such a talisman - and not wishing injury on anyone - people might not have been so miffed.?
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Isn’t Lewis Dunk, John Marquis’s brother in law, I seem to remember reading it somewhere
Mmm, given how much Marquis was loved in his time with us, would that fact make Dunk part of the wider Rovers family then? :chair:
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Isn’t Lewis Dunk, John Marquis’s brother in law, I seem to remember reading it somewhere
Correct. John hangs out the back of Lewis’ sister.