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an independent NI, and Scotland for that matter, would be light years away from being in a credible position to meet the EU joining requirements.
Lets hope the Scots don't ask for their North Sea Oil money back aye?Dude, where's my North Sea oil money? https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/13/north-sea-oil-money-uk-norwegians-fund
Interesting read. Is there any agreement in place that says the oil fields would be in Scotlands territorial waters in the event of a UK divide? As it stands the waters are british not scottish. Let's hope we dont ask for our Barnett formula subsidies back eh?It works both ways. Perhaps not to the tune of the billions of oil money but the principle is the same.
Our debts and profits... you were the one saying they should claim the oil money back!No, that's not what I said.I cant comment on the figures as I cant find a link to back them up. If they're right then of course it doesn't paint a great picture. I'm patient.That doesn't mean we should end austerity now because of the past bad decisions. We are continuing to get into more debt at a rate of over £5000 per second. And you would have us spend more???Austerity is what is shackling the economy, putting more money into the hands of those that will spend it all is better than putting it into the hands of those that will squirrel it away. Are we going around in circles here?
Good for them if they do, I wish we could be in a trading partnership with our neighbours that didn't include politics and third party control of our national interest.
We are in the midst of a right-wing coup & have been for 3+ years. Getting us to vote on leaving the EU was never about whether our EU membership was good for us or not, it was simply the vehicle for those who wanted to seize absolute power to achieve their nefarious goals. Johnson's "War cabinet" will spend at wartime levels on state propaganda. Because it's a war against you, the poor, the students, the old, the sick, the young families - oh and manufacturing. It's a war for greed and racism.
Quote from: foxbat on August 02, 2019, 02:27:57 pmWe are in the midst of a right-wing coup & have been for 3+ years. Getting us to vote on leaving the EU was never about whether our EU membership was good for us or not, it was simply the vehicle for those who wanted to seize absolute power to achieve their nefarious goals. Johnson's "War cabinet" will spend at wartime levels on state propaganda. Because it's a war against you, the poor, the students, the old, the sick, the young families - oh and manufacturing. It's a war for greed and racism.What's wrong with right wing. Why has that become a dirty word. A few years of proper, right wing, conservative (little C) values might get the country back on track. Conflating the right with automatic racism is insulting and unnecessary. I'm open to debate but there is some rampant socialist elements here it seems. Also, and not necessarily in this post, but in general, more than a hint of patronizing tone, as I've said before... which, if you understand those right of center, and if you truly understood the working class (which I am but it depends my which metric you use)... you would avoid. Patronising Brexit voters, patronising right wingers, I can assure you is only a route to the cementing of their/my views. Perhaps if Labour/Lib Dems understood that they would win more people over.
Just my opinion but in recent years the centre ground appears to have shifted to the right to the extent that the far right isn't as, well, far as it once was. Perhaps why it's become something of a dirty word.
Excuse my crap English, on mobile.
The Conservatives run the economy like an accountant would instead of trying to run it like an economist would.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on August 03, 2019, 10:13:20 pmThe Conservatives run the economy like an accountant would instead of trying to run it like an economist would.Corbyn would run the country like a communist would instead of trying to run it like an economist would.