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Do children get packages tailored to any medical needs or are they all expected to get the same and lump it if it's not appropriate?
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on January 15, 2021, 09:34:45 pmDo children get packages tailored to any medical needs or are they all expected to get the same and lump it if it's not appropriate?They should, and hopefully they will. But it will not just happen at the click of your fingers.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on January 15, 2021, 09:07:22 pmI don't recall anyone criticising the efforts that schools are making.The issue is provision for kids not in school. And a private company convincing Govt it would be better to let them provided food packages with something like a 300% overhead on the wholesale cost, because it was a better solution than simply giving parents food vouchers. Then serving up the shite we've seen this week. So do you criticise the help that the government is giving schools in terms of chromebooks, in school learning and meals provided for them?Schools could not do what they are doing without extra support from the government.
I don't recall anyone criticising the efforts that schools are making.The issue is provision for kids not in school. And a private company convincing Govt it would be better to let them provided food packages with something like a 300% overhead on the wholesale cost, because it was a better solution than simply giving parents food vouchers. Then serving up the shite we've seen this week.
You’re only criticising the things you think are worthy of criticisism.
Quote from: belton rover on January 15, 2021, 10:36:18 pmYou’re only criticising the things you think are worthy of criticisism.Doesn't everybody?Things that you think are worthy of criticism deserve to be criticised. Criticising things that you think aren't wirthy is just bizarre.
Belton.1) Well yes. That's kind of how criticism works. The things you are pointing out are really very straightforward issues that Govt exists to manage correctly. We expect that of a basically competent Govt and it goes without comment. Just as you wouldn't expect someone to post once a month praising the Govt for making sure soldiers were paid on time.2) I posted a menu that is taken directly from the Govt guidance to the suppliers of FSM to kids not in school, and a list of things that a supplier has supplied. I genuinely do not understand your point.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on January 15, 2021, 10:49:21 pmBelton.1) Well yes. That's kind of how criticism works. The things you are pointing out are really very straightforward issues that Govt exists to manage correctly. We expect that of a basically competent Govt and it goes without comment. Just as you wouldn't expect someone to post once a month praising the Govt for making sure soldiers were paid on time.2) I posted a menu that is taken directly from the Govt guidance to the suppliers of FSM to kids not in school, and a list of things that a supplier has supplied. I genuinely do not understand your point. Not even worthy of a response, apparently.
Anyway. Good to see you're well again.I wonder if you've been reflecting on the Trump transition while you've been ill.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on January 15, 2021, 10:50:35 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on January 15, 2021, 10:49:21 pmBelton.1) Well yes. That's kind of how criticism works. The things you are pointing out are really very straightforward issues that Govt exists to manage correctly. We expect that of a basically competent Govt and it goes without comment. Just as you wouldn't expect someone to post once a month praising the Govt for making sure soldiers were paid on time.2) I posted a menu that is taken directly from the Govt guidance to the suppliers of FSM to kids not in school, and a list of things that a supplier has supplied. I genuinely do not understand your point. Not even worthy of a response, apparently.Why would you think some one else’s post isn’t worthy of a response just because your post isn’t? What? Wait? Unless you’re all in this together! Now there’s a thought.
Quote from: belton rover on January 15, 2021, 10:53:57 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on January 15, 2021, 10:50:35 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on January 15, 2021, 10:49:21 pmBelton.1) Well yes. That's kind of how criticism works. The things you are pointing out are really very straightforward issues that Govt exists to manage correctly. We expect that of a basically competent Govt and it goes without comment. Just as you wouldn't expect someone to post once a month praising the Govt for making sure soldiers were paid on time.2) I posted a menu that is taken directly from the Govt guidance to the suppliers of FSM to kids not in school, and a list of things that a supplier has supplied. I genuinely do not understand your point. Not even worthy of a response, apparently.Why would you think some one else’s post isn’t worthy of a response just because your post isn’t? What? Wait? Unless you’re all in this together! Now there’s a thought.Well, as BST's said pretty much the same thing as mine I thought it was a safe assumption that you'd want to treat it the same.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on January 15, 2021, 10:56:16 pmAnyway. Good to see you're well again.I wonder if you've been reflecting on the Trump transition while you've been ill.Reflecting?No time for reflecting - I’ve been digging a bunker ready for the annihilation. I’m almost down to China. Do you think I’ll be safe there? But thanks. Incredibly, I tested negative, but the rest of my family were positive.
I was absolutely convinced I would test positive, as I had symptoms and the other five members of my household were positive at the time.I have no idea whether I was wrong or the test. I don’t know why you would presume it was a false negative.
I accept it BillyYou’re only criticising the things you think are worthy of criticism.But you also posted a menu of food that is absolutely not a true reflection of what most of our needy children are receiving.Scandalous.
Quote from: belton rover on January 16, 2021, 10:12:29 amI was absolutely convinced I would test positive, as I had symptoms and the other five members of my household were positive at the time.I have no idea whether I was wrong or the test. I don’t know why you would presume it was a false negative.That is a bit strange, but good news that you made a full recovery. Hope Mrs Belton and the rest of the family are all well too.
Quote from: belton rover on January 16, 2021, 10:12:29 amI was absolutely convinced I would test positive, as I had symptoms and the other five members of my household were positive at the time.I have no idea whether I was wrong or the test. I don’t know why you would presume it was a false negative.Good to hear you came through it ok, best wishes for all your family.
Quote from: belton rover on January 15, 2021, 10:36:18 pmI accept it BillyYou’re only criticising the things you think are worthy of criticism.But you also posted a menu of food that is absolutely not a true reflection of what most of our needy children are receiving.Scandalous.Do you have any evidence for this Belton? The only contradictory evidence that I have seen of schools, sending out more than what the government has recommended is from me and you here and a few callers on the radio who say they are local resteraunts providing school meals in their area free of charge. This would appear to be individual schools going against government guidance rather than praise for companies following it.Marcus Rashford said he had been contacted by thousands of parents, there have been dozens of callers on the radio from all over the country and photos and reports in many local papers, including in Wiltshire, of schools sending out parcels similar to that Billy posted.I would like to think most are not - but I haven't seen any evidence of that?
Quote from: wilts rover on January 16, 2021, 10:28:35 amQuote from: belton rover on January 15, 2021, 10:36:18 pmI accept it BillyYou’re only criticising the things you think are worthy of criticism.But you also posted a menu of food that is absolutely not a true reflection of what most of our needy children are receiving.Scandalous.Do you have any evidence for this Belton? The only contradictory evidence that I have seen of schools, sending out more than what the government has recommended is from me and you here and a few callers on the radio who say they are local resteraunts providing school meals in their area free of charge. This would appear to be individual schools going against government guidance rather than praise for companies following it.Marcus Rashford said he had been contacted by thousands of parents, there have been dozens of callers on the radio from all over the country and photos and reports in many local papers, including in Wiltshire, of schools sending out parcels similar to that Billy posted.I would like to think most are not - but I haven't seen any evidence of that?No evidence in terms of thousands of people contacting Marcus Rashford to say they are happy with free school meals, or dozens of people on the radio expressing their thanks for the meals.I listened to a radio show where callers were urged to call in about the disgraceful free meals. Several did. I called in to give an alternative opinion from my own experience of local kids and parents being happy with their parcels. I never got past the producer.I can only assume my views didn’t fit in with the radio station’s narrative.
Quote from: belton rover on January 16, 2021, 12:37:24 pmQuote from: wilts rover on January 16, 2021, 10:28:35 amQuote from: belton rover on January 15, 2021, 10:36:18 pmI accept it BillyYou’re only criticising the things you think are worthy of criticism.But you also posted a menu of food that is absolutely not a true reflection of what most of our needy children are receiving.Scandalous.Do you have any evidence for this Belton? The only contradictory evidence that I have seen of schools, sending out more than what the government has recommended is from me and you here and a few callers on the radio who say they are local resteraunts providing school meals in their area free of charge. This would appear to be individual schools going against government guidance rather than praise for companies following it.Marcus Rashford said he had been contacted by thousands of parents, there have been dozens of callers on the radio from all over the country and photos and reports in many local papers, including in Wiltshire, of schools sending out parcels similar to that Billy posted.I would like to think most are not - but I haven't seen any evidence of that?No evidence in terms of thousands of people contacting Marcus Rashford to say they are happy with free school meals, or dozens of people on the radio expressing their thanks for the meals.I listened to a radio show where callers were urged to call in about the disgraceful free meals. Several did. I called in to give an alternative opinion from my own experience of local kids and parents being happy with their parcels. I never got past the producer.I can only assume my views didn’t fit in with the radio station’s narrative.So you don't have any evidence that the menu that posted is not what most of our needy children are recieving then?Despite it being the offical government guidance of what our needy children should recieve?