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Quote from: wilts rover on June 24, 2022, 12:50:04 pmQuote from: danumdon on June 24, 2022, 12:34:15 pmSo in effect your thinking is.I want a Labour government installed in 2024,They will not be able to enact any policy that will reverse your belief that leaving the SM and CU had created.They will need over a decade to undo all the polices in place that the Tories have implemented and bring forward coherent and workable policies that will enable this country to decide that being back in the SM and CU is worth the effort.Why would we be voting for another decade and more of regurgitated upheaval after this last one, that MAY put us in a position we were last in two decades ago?Is this going to be your selling point going forwards, are you expecting the country to vote for that!!Do you think Labour should campaign to reverse Brexit DD? Or do you agree with their current position to honour the Brexit vote?Like others have said, that ship has sailed and it would be in no parties interest to campaign to reverse anything. What they should do now is to work to achieve the best possible outcome from the decision taken, if the Labour party had spent the last parliament working to ensure we had the very best outcome from the negotiations instead of running to Brussels and in effect sabotaging everything that could be achieved from leaving the SM and CU we would be in a very much stronger position now.As to their "current position to honour the Brexit vote" means a great many different things to different people. If they win the next GE they have in effect made their task a great deal harder to implement meaningful and sustainable change due to their weasel words and actions during the negotiations.Smokescreen to enable a large enough voting swing comes to mind before wholesale changes to their policy.How many people could trust Starmer?
Quote from: danumdon on June 24, 2022, 12:34:15 pmSo in effect your thinking is.I want a Labour government installed in 2024,They will not be able to enact any policy that will reverse your belief that leaving the SM and CU had created.They will need over a decade to undo all the polices in place that the Tories have implemented and bring forward coherent and workable policies that will enable this country to decide that being back in the SM and CU is worth the effort.Why would we be voting for another decade and more of regurgitated upheaval after this last one, that MAY put us in a position we were last in two decades ago?Is this going to be your selling point going forwards, are you expecting the country to vote for that!!Do you think Labour should campaign to reverse Brexit DD? Or do you agree with their current position to honour the Brexit vote?
So in effect your thinking is.I want a Labour government installed in 2024,They will not be able to enact any policy that will reverse your belief that leaving the SM and CU had created.They will need over a decade to undo all the polices in place that the Tories have implemented and bring forward coherent and workable policies that will enable this country to decide that being back in the SM and CU is worth the effort.Why would we be voting for another decade and more of regurgitated upheaval after this last one, that MAY put us in a position we were last in two decades ago?Is this going to be your selling point going forwards, are you expecting the country to vote for that!!
Quote from: danumdon on June 24, 2022, 01:10:05 pmQuote from: wilts rover on June 24, 2022, 12:50:04 pmQuote from: danumdon on June 24, 2022, 12:34:15 pmSo in effect your thinking is.I want a Labour government installed in 2024,They will not be able to enact any policy that will reverse your belief that leaving the SM and CU had created.They will need over a decade to undo all the polices in place that the Tories have implemented and bring forward coherent and workable policies that will enable this country to decide that being back in the SM and CU is worth the effort.Why would we be voting for another decade and more of regurgitated upheaval after this last one, that MAY put us in a position we were last in two decades ago?Is this going to be your selling point going forwards, are you expecting the country to vote for that!!Do you think Labour should campaign to reverse Brexit DD? Or do you agree with their current position to honour the Brexit vote?Like others have said, that ship has sailed and it would be in no parties interest to campaign to reverse anything. What they should do now is to work to achieve the best possible outcome from the decision taken, if the Labour party had spent the last parliament working to ensure we had the very best outcome from the negotiations instead of running to Brussels and in effect sabotaging everything that could be achieved from leaving the SM and CU we would be in a very much stronger position now.As to their "current position to honour the Brexit vote" means a great many different things to different people. If they win the next GE they have in effect made their task a great deal harder to implement meaningful and sustainable change due to their weasel words and actions during the negotiations.Smokescreen to enable a large enough voting swing comes to mind before wholesale changes to their policy.How many people could trust Starmer?And what would be better for this country than what we have been left with now? What 'could be achieved' from leaving the SM and CU without resorting to the unicorns the ERG kept spewing out?We have left. That has consequences. Those consequences can't be wished away.
Quote from: wilts rover on June 24, 2022, 12:50:04 pmQuote from: danumdon on June 24, 2022, 12:34:15 pmSo in effect your thinking is.I want a Labour government installed in 2024,They will not be able to enact any policy that will reverse your belief that leaving the SM and CU had created.They will need over a decade to undo all the polices in place that the Tories have implemented and bring forward coherent and workable policies that will enable this country to decide that being back in the SM and CU is worth the effort.Why would we be voting for another decade and more of regurgitated upheaval after this last one, that MAY put us in a position we were last in two decades ago?Is this going to be your selling point going forwards, are you expecting the country to vote for that!!Do you think Labour should campaign to reverse Brexit DD? Or do you agree with their current position to honour the Brexit vote?Like others have said, that ship has sailed and it would be in no parties interest to campaign to reverse anything. What they should do now is to work to achieve the best possible outcome from the decision taken, if the Labour party had spent the last parliament working to ensure we had the very best outcome from the negotiations instead of running to Brussels and in effect sabotaging everything that could be achieved from leaving the SM and CU we would be in a very much stronger position now.As to their "current position to honour the Brexit vote" means a great many different things to different people. If they win the next GE they have in effect made their task a great deal harder to implement meaningful and sustainable change due to their weasel words and actions during the negotiations.Smokescreen to enable a large enough voting swing comes to mind before wholesale changes to their policy.How many people could trust Starmer?
Quote from: danumdon on June 24, 2022, 01:10:05 pmQuote from: wilts rover on June 24, 2022, 12:50:04 pmQuote from: danumdon on June 24, 2022, 12:34:15 pmSo in effect your thinking is.I want a Labour government installed in 2024,They will not be able to enact any policy that will reverse your belief that leaving the SM and CU had created.They will need over a decade to undo all the polices in place that the Tories have implemented and bring forward coherent and workable policies that will enable this country to decide that being back in the SM and CU is worth the effort.Why would we be voting for another decade and more of regurgitated upheaval after this last one, that MAY put us in a position we were last in two decades ago?Is this going to be your selling point going forwards, are you expecting the country to vote for that!!Do you think Labour should campaign to reverse Brexit DD? Or do you agree with their current position to honour the Brexit vote?Like others have said, that ship has sailed and it would be in no parties interest to campaign to reverse anything. What they should do now is to work to achieve the best possible outcome from the decision taken, if the Labour party had spent the last parliament working to ensure we had the very best outcome from the negotiations instead of running to Brussels and in effect sabotaging everything that could be achieved from leaving the SM and CU we would be in a very much stronger position now.As to their "current position to honour the Brexit vote" means a great many different things to different people. If they win the next GE they have in effect made their task a great deal harder to implement meaningful and sustainable change due to their weasel words and actions during the negotiations.Smokescreen to enable a large enough voting swing comes to mind before wholesale changes to their policy.How many people could trust Starmer?I have no idea about your last point DD but as I have said several times (and we are going to hear a lot more from now on) unless Starmer wins an outright majority in the next GE he will be in a coalition with a pro-rejoin party (maybe more than 1). People need to be careful what they wish for.
Quote from: wilts rover on June 24, 2022, 04:51:35 pmQuote from: danumdon on June 24, 2022, 01:10:05 pmQuote from: wilts rover on June 24, 2022, 12:50:04 pmQuote from: danumdon on June 24, 2022, 12:34:15 pmSo in effect your thinking is.I want a Labour government installed in 2024,They will not be able to enact any policy that will reverse your belief that leaving the SM and CU had created.They will need over a decade to undo all the polices in place that the Tories have implemented and bring forward coherent and workable policies that will enable this country to decide that being back in the SM and CU is worth the effort.Why would we be voting for another decade and more of regurgitated upheaval after this last one, that MAY put us in a position we were last in two decades ago?Is this going to be your selling point going forwards, are you expecting the country to vote for that!!Do you think Labour should campaign to reverse Brexit DD? Or do you agree with their current position to honour the Brexit vote?Like others have said, that ship has sailed and it would be in no parties interest to campaign to reverse anything. What they should do now is to work to achieve the best possible outcome from the decision taken, if the Labour party had spent the last parliament working to ensure we had the very best outcome from the negotiations instead of running to Brussels and in effect sabotaging everything that could be achieved from leaving the SM and CU we would be in a very much stronger position now.As to their "current position to honour the Brexit vote" means a great many different things to different people. If they win the next GE they have in effect made their task a great deal harder to implement meaningful and sustainable change due to their weasel words and actions during the negotiations.Smokescreen to enable a large enough voting swing comes to mind before wholesale changes to their policy.How many people could trust Starmer?I have no idea about your last point DD but as I have said several times (and we are going to hear a lot more from now on) unless Starmer wins an outright majority in the next GE he will be in a coalition with a pro-rejoin party (maybe more than 1). People need to be careful what they wish for.Im sure you understood my last point very well, Starmer will say one thing to placate the leave voters of the left to persuade them to vote the correct way, Its not going to be beyond this ardent remainer to change his mind when he has a mandate that will enable him to have a large enough majority to enact his deceitful intentions.Keith cannot be trusted to lie straight in bed never mind an election manifesto.
Quote from: danumdon on June 24, 2022, 01:10:05 pmQuote from: wilts rover on June 24, 2022, 12:50:04 pmQuote from: danumdon on June 24, 2022, 12:34:15 pmSo in effect your thinking is.I want a Labour government installed in 2024,They will not be able to enact any policy that will reverse your belief that leaving the SM and CU had created.They will need over a decade to undo all the polices in place that the Tories have implemented and bring forward coherent and workable policies that will enable this country to decide that being back in the SM and CU is worth the effort.Why would we be voting for another decade and more of regurgitated upheaval after this last one, that MAY put us in a position we were last in two decades ago?Is this going to be your selling point going forwards, are you expecting the country to vote for that!!Do you think Labour should campaign to reverse Brexit DD? Or do you agree with their current position to honour the Brexit vote?Like others have said, that ship has sailed and it would be in no parties interest to campaign to reverse anything. What they should do now is to work to achieve the best possible outcome from the decision taken, if the Labour party had spent the last parliament working to ensure we had the very best outcome from the negotiations instead of running to Brussels and in effect sabotaging everything that could be achieved from leaving the SM and CU we would be in a very much stronger position now.As to their "current position to honour the Brexit vote" means a great many different things to different people. If they win the next GE they have in effect made their task a great deal harder to implement meaningful and sustainable change due to their weasel words and actions during the negotiations.Smokescreen to enable a large enough voting swing comes to mind before wholesale changes to their policy.How many people could trust Starmer?I have no idea about your last point DD but as I have said several times (and we are going to hear a lot more from now on) unless Starmer wins an outright majority in the next GE he will be in a coalition with a pro-rejoin party (maybe more than 1). People need to be careful what they wish for.
Quote from: wilts rover on June 24, 2022, 12:50:04 pmQuote from: danumdon on June 24, 2022, 12:34:15 pmSo in effect your thinking is.I want a Labour government installed in 2024,They will not be able to enact any policy that will reverse your belief that leaving the SM and CU had created.They will need over a decade to undo all the polices in place that the Tories have implemented and bring forward coherent and workable policies that will enable this country to decide that being back in the SM and CU is worth the effort.Why would we be voting for another decade and more of regurgitated upheaval after this last one, that MAY put us in a position we were last in two decades ago?Is this going to be your selling point going forwards, are you expecting the country to vote for that!!Do you think Labour should campaign to reverse Brexit DD? Or do you agree with their current position to honour the Brexit vote?Like others have said, that ship has sailed and it would be in no parties interest to campaign to reverse anything. What they should do now is to work to achieve the best possible outcome from the decision taken, if the Labour party had spent the last parliament working to ensure we had the very best outcome from the negotiations instead of running to Brussels and in effect sabotaging everything that could be achieved from leaving the SM and CU we would be in a very much stronger position now.As to their "current position to honour the Brexit vote" means a great many different things to different people. If they win the next GE they have in effect made their task a great deal harder to implement meaningful and sustainable change due to their weasel words and actions during the negotiations.Smokescreen to enable a large enough voting swing comes to mind before wholesale changes to their policy.How many people could trust Starmer?
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 24, 2022, 02:56:02 pmQuote from: danumdon on June 24, 2022, 01:10:05 pmQuote from: wilts rover on June 24, 2022, 12:50:04 pmQuote from: danumdon on June 24, 2022, 12:34:15 pmSo in effect your thinking is.I want a Labour government installed in 2024,They will not be able to enact any policy that will reverse your belief that leaving the SM and CU had created.They will need over a decade to undo all the polices in place that the Tories have implemented and bring forward coherent and workable policies that will enable this country to decide that being back in the SM and CU is worth the effort.Why would we be voting for another decade and more of regurgitated upheaval after this last one, that MAY put us in a position we were last in two decades ago?Is this going to be your selling point going forwards, are you expecting the country to vote for that!!Do you think Labour should campaign to reverse Brexit DD? Or do you agree with their current position to honour the Brexit vote?Like others have said, that ship has sailed and it would be in no parties interest to campaign to reverse anything. What they should do now is to work to achieve the best possible outcome from the decision taken, if the Labour party had spent the last parliament working to ensure we had the very best outcome from the negotiations instead of running to Brussels and in effect sabotaging everything that could be achieved from leaving the SM and CU we would be in a very much stronger position now.As to their "current position to honour the Brexit vote" means a great many different things to different people. If they win the next GE they have in effect made their task a great deal harder to implement meaningful and sustainable change due to their weasel words and actions during the negotiations.Smokescreen to enable a large enough voting swing comes to mind before wholesale changes to their policy.How many people could trust Starmer?And what would be better for this country than what we have been left with now? What 'could be achieved' from leaving the SM and CU without resorting to the unicorns the ERG kept spewing out?We have left. That has consequences. Those consequences can't be wished away.What should of happened after the referendum was for the democratic process to be allowed to run its course, To persist and continue with a lost cause by the remainer cabal only resulted in the negotiation being high jacked and disrupted by Quislings and agitators which resulted in the final agreement being sub optimal.That was the time for all of parliament to get behind the deal and ensure we got he best deal possible, after all, we all as a nation now have to live by this process until as such time the electorate decide differently.The time for agitation and protest in parliament would of been after this had been given its democratic mandate to run its course. Let the people of the country decide at the next GE.After all is it not still the case that this demographic is supposed to "die out" before the next election and the new young intake of eligible voters will give it its just deserts?Is this not the way the democratic process is supposed to work in this country?
Quote from: danumdon on June 24, 2022, 01:10:05 pmQuote from: wilts rover on June 24, 2022, 12:50:04 pmQuote from: danumdon on June 24, 2022, 12:34:15 pmSo in effect your thinking is.I want a Labour government installed in 2024,They will not be able to enact any policy that will reverse your belief that leaving the SM and CU had created.They will need over a decade to undo all the polices in place that the Tories have implemented and bring forward coherent and workable policies that will enable this country to decide that being back in the SM and CU is worth the effort.Why would we be voting for another decade and more of regurgitated upheaval after this last one, that MAY put us in a position we were last in two decades ago?Is this going to be your selling point going forwards, are you expecting the country to vote for that!!Do you think Labour should campaign to reverse Brexit DD? Or do you agree with their current position to honour the Brexit vote?Like others have said, that ship has sailed and it would be in no parties interest to campaign to reverse anything. What they should do now is to work to achieve the best possible outcome from the decision taken, if the Labour party had spent the last parliament working to ensure we had the very best outcome from the negotiations instead of running to Brussels and in effect sabotaging everything that could be achieved from leaving the SM and CU we would be in a very much stronger position now.As to their "current position to honour the Brexit vote" means a great many different things to different people. If they win the next GE they have in effect made their task a great deal harder to implement meaningful and sustainable change due to their weasel words and actions during the negotiations.Smokescreen to enable a large enough voting swing comes to mind before wholesale changes to their policy.How many people could trust Starmer?And what would be better for this country than what we have been left with now? What 'could be achieved' from leaving the SM and CU without resorting to the unicorns the ERG kept spewing out?We have left. That has consequences. Those consequences can't be wished away.
Quote from: wilts rover on June 24, 2022, 12:50:04 pmQuote from: danumdon on June 24, 2022, 12:34:15 pmSo in effect your thinking is.I want a Labour government installed in 2024,They will not be able to enact any policy that will reverse your belief that leaving the SM and CU had created.They will need over a decade to undo all the polices in place that the Tories have implemented and bring forward coherent and workable policies that will enable this country to decide that being back in the SM and CU is worth the effort.Why would we be voting for another decade and more of regurgitated upheaval after this last one, that MAY put us in a position we were last in two decades ago?Is this going to be your selling point going forwards, are you expecting the country to vote for that!!Do you think Labour should campaign to reverse Brexit DD? Or do you agree with their current position to honour the Brexit vote?Wilts, I have been saying for some time now that those people bleating on about how bad Brexit is should accept the outcome of the vote and get on with their lives.Those of us in the UK have to get on with things as we can’t change anything for the foreseeable future.I have been bombed with expletives for daring to say that.I voted remain by the way.Out of interest, do you think we should honour the outcome of the vote?
Quote from: drfchound on June 24, 2022, 08:09:29 pmQuote from: wilts rover on June 24, 2022, 12:50:04 pmQuote from: danumdon on June 24, 2022, 12:34:15 pmSo in effect your thinking is.I want a Labour government installed in 2024,They will not be able to enact any policy that will reverse your belief that leaving the SM and CU had created.They will need over a decade to undo all the polices in place that the Tories have implemented and bring forward coherent and workable policies that will enable this country to decide that being back in the SM and CU is worth the effort.Why would we be voting for another decade and more of regurgitated upheaval after this last one, that MAY put us in a position we were last in two decades ago?Is this going to be your selling point going forwards, are you expecting the country to vote for that!!Do you think Labour should campaign to reverse Brexit DD? Or do you agree with their current position to honour the Brexit vote?Wilts, I have been saying for some time now that those people bleating on about how bad Brexit is should accept the outcome of the vote and get on with their lives.Those of us in the UK have to get on with things as we can’t change anything for the foreseeable future.I have been bombed with expletives for daring to say that.I voted remain by the way.Out of interest, do you think we should honour the outcome of the vote?Irrespective of what anyone thinks, the outcome of the vote has been honoured. We have a signed, legally binding agreement with the EU that says so.
Kato, there are some things in your post that I agree with and I have always said that the public at large shouldn’t have been the people responsible for deciding whether we left the EU but I noticed that you didn’t reprimand wilts for mentioning “the vote” in his post that I quoted and responded to.Maybe because he is on your side?
Quote from: drfchound on June 25, 2022, 05:00:17 pmKato, there are some things in your post that I agree with and I have always said that the public at large shouldn’t have been the people responsible for deciding whether we left the EU but I noticed that you didn’t reprimand wilts for mentioning “the vote” in his post that I quoted and responded to.Maybe because he is on your side?People should be repremanded for asking questions should they hound?Well, what can you say...The question to DD (in response to his question to BST about future Labour policy on trade with Europe) was about what he thinks future Labour Party policy should be. Clearly they have to have one.
Quote from: wilts rover on June 25, 2022, 07:24:25 pmQuote from: drfchound on June 25, 2022, 05:00:17 pmKato, there are some things in your post that I agree with and I have always said that the public at large shouldn’t have been the people responsible for deciding whether we left the EU but I noticed that you didn’t reprimand wilts for mentioning “the vote” in his post that I quoted and responded to.Maybe because he is on your side?People should be repremanded for asking questions should they hound?Well, what can you say...The question to DD (in response to his question to BST about future Labour policy on trade with Europe) was about what he thinks future Labour Party policy should be. Clearly they have to have one.Wilts, you have picked up the wrong end of the stick matey.Read the the opening sentence of Katos volley at me and he says “the vote, as you put it”.I was explaining to him that you had used the expression (vote) and asked him why he hadn’t jumped on you, rather than me, for calling the vote, the vote, so to speak.I never suggested that people should be reprimanded for asking questions.
Quote from: drfchound on June 25, 2022, 07:35:59 pmQuote from: wilts rover on June 25, 2022, 07:24:25 pmQuote from: drfchound on June 25, 2022, 05:00:17 pmKato, there are some things in your post that I agree with and I have always said that the public at large shouldn’t have been the people responsible for deciding whether we left the EU but I noticed that you didn’t reprimand wilts for mentioning “the vote” in his post that I quoted and responded to.Maybe because he is on your side?People should be repremanded for asking questions should they hound?Well, what can you say...The question to DD (in response to his question to BST about future Labour policy on trade with Europe) was about what he thinks future Labour Party policy should be. Clearly they have to have one.Wilts, you have picked up the wrong end of the stick matey.Read the the opening sentence of Katos volley at me and he says “the vote, as you put it”.I was explaining to him that you had used the expression (vote) and asked him why he hadn’t jumped on you, rather than me, for calling the vote, the vote, so to speak.I never suggested that people should be reprimanded for asking questions.I have picked up exactly on what you wrote hound. I asked a very simple question and you asked Kato why he didn't repremand me for asking it.If you want to argue with Kato thats between you and him, dont go dragging me into it just for the sake of it - or you will need to justify doing it.
Quote from: wilts rover on June 25, 2022, 07:47:42 pmQuote from: drfchound on June 25, 2022, 07:35:59 pmQuote from: wilts rover on June 25, 2022, 07:24:25 pmQuote from: drfchound on June 25, 2022, 05:00:17 pmKato, there are some things in your post that I agree with and I have always said that the public at large shouldn’t have been the people responsible for deciding whether we left the EU but I noticed that you didn’t reprimand wilts for mentioning “the vote” in his post that I quoted and responded to.Maybe because he is on your side?People should be repremanded for asking questions should they hound?Well, what can you say...The question to DD (in response to his question to BST about future Labour policy on trade with Europe) was about what he thinks future Labour Party policy should be. Clearly they have to have one.Wilts, you have picked up the wrong end of the stick matey.Read the the opening sentence of Katos volley at me and he says “the vote, as you put it”.I was explaining to him that you had used the expression (vote) and asked him why he hadn’t jumped on you, rather than me, for calling the vote, the vote, so to speak.I never suggested that people should be reprimanded for asking questions.I have picked up exactly on what you wrote hound. I asked a very simple question and you asked Kato why he didn't repremand me for asking it.If you want to argue with Kato thats between you and him, dont go dragging me into it just for the sake of it - or you will need to justify doing it.But I am justifying it wilts.None of my comment was aimed at you.I simply asked Kato why he jumped on me for saying “the vote”,instead of jumping on you for saying “the vote.”You are being very sensitive about something that doesn’t exist.
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Quote from: drfchound on June 25, 2022, 08:48:29 pmQuote from: wilts rover on June 25, 2022, 07:47:42 pmQuote from: drfchound on June 25, 2022, 07:35:59 pmQuote from: wilts rover on June 25, 2022, 07:24:25 pmQuote from: drfchound on June 25, 2022, 05:00:17 pmKato, there are some things in your post that I agree with and I have always said that the public at large shouldn’t have been the people responsible for deciding whether we left the EU but I noticed that you didn’t reprimand wilts for mentioning “the vote” in his post that I quoted and responded to.Maybe because he is on your side?People should be repremanded for asking questions should they hound?Well, what can you say...The question to DD (in response to his question to BST about future Labour policy on trade with Europe) was about what he thinks future Labour Party policy should be. Clearly they have to have one.Wilts, you have picked up the wrong end of the stick matey.Read the the opening sentence of Katos volley at me and he says “the vote, as you put it”.I was explaining to him that you had used the expression (vote) and asked him why he hadn’t jumped on you, rather than me, for calling the vote, the vote, so to speak.I never suggested that people should be reprimanded for asking questions.I have picked up exactly on what you wrote hound. I asked a very simple question and you asked Kato why he didn't repremand me for asking it.If you want to argue with Kato thats between you and him, dont go dragging me into it just for the sake of it - or you will need to justify doing it.But I am justifying it wilts.None of my comment was aimed at you.I simply asked Kato why he jumped on me for saying “the vote”,instead of jumping on you for saying “the vote.”You are being very sensitive about something that doesn’t exist. Hound, I haven’t ‘jumped’ on anyone. I simply stated what I believed should have happened given the scenario of the 2016 referendum, and the reason we are in the mess we currently are with respect to leaving the EU. It was you who asked should we honour the result of the referendum, I simply gave my view on that question - or are you suggesting I should be barred from giving my opinion? I stand by my response to your question, wholeheartedly.
Quote from: drfchound on June 25, 2022, 08:48:29 pmQuote from: wilts rover on June 25, 2022, 07:47:42 pmQuote from: drfchound on June 25, 2022, 07:35:59 pmQuote from: wilts rover on June 25, 2022, 07:24:25 pmQuote from: drfchound on June 25, 2022, 05:00:17 pmKato, there are some things in your post that I agree with and I have always said that the public at large shouldn’t have been the people responsible for deciding whether we left the EU but I noticed that you didn’t reprimand wilts for mentioning “the vote” in his post that I quoted and responded to.Maybe because he is on your side?People should be repremanded for asking questions should they hound?Well, what can you say...The question to DD (in response to his question to BST about future Labour policy on trade with Europe) was about what he thinks future Labour Party policy should be. Clearly they have to have one.Wilts, you have picked up the wrong end of the stick matey.Read the the opening sentence of Katos volley at me and he says “the vote, as you put it”.I was explaining to him that you had used the expression (vote) and asked him why he hadn’t jumped on you, rather than me, for calling the vote, the vote, so to speak.I never suggested that people should be reprimanded for asking questions.I have picked up exactly on what you wrote hound. I asked a very simple question and you asked Kato why he didn't repremand me for asking it.If you want to argue with Kato thats between you and him, dont go dragging me into it just for the sake of it - or you will need to justify doing it.But I am justifying it wilts.None of my comment was aimed at you.I simply asked Kato why he jumped on me for saying “the vote”,instead of jumping on you for saying “the vote.”You are being very sensitive about something that doesn’t exist.Yes - and you think I should be reprimanded for asking a question - which you then deny.You are writing these things down for eveyone to read hound.