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Surely we would be better off finishing second in our group now as it’s highly unlikely Germany will top there group now?!
Write Germany off at your peril.
The big hitters are not having it all their own way, this World Cup is wide open, I keep daying it, England have a good a chance of winning it than they have for a long time
As England v Belgium is the last game, they'll both know potential routes to the final. If both teams have six points, and the team finishing second has a easier draw, it will be one hell of a spectacle. Both teams playing to lose.
Are Germany highly unlikely to win the group? Could quite easily see them winning twice and Sweden and South Korea drawing with Mexico. I’d say there’s more chance of them finishing second, but it’s not a long shot for them to still top the group.
Quote from: NickDRFC on June 17, 2018, 06:40:20 pmAre Germany highly unlikely to win the group? Could quite easily see them winning twice and Sweden and South Korea drawing with Mexico. I’d say there’s more chance of them finishing second, but it’s not a long shot for them to still top the group.If Germany do finish second in their group, and Brazil win theirs,it could lead to an interesting position for England....Presuming both England and Belgium win their first two games and are therefore through - in order to avoid being in the side of the knockout draw that would have both Germany and Brazil - the last group match between them would one where both teams wanted to lose!
IDMThe point is that the more leading teams you come up against, the more likely you are to meet your match. The oft-used phrase that you have to beat the best to win is ba-baa. What you want is for the best sides to play each other and knock each other out, while you progress against weaker sides and have as few really hard matches as possible. Plus, whilst your confidence in our ability to beat Germany and Brazil is laudable, it flies in the face of experience. Other that in 1966, we have never beaten top sides (Brazil, Argentina, Germany, France, Spain, Portugal, Holland or Italy) in the knockout stages of the WC.