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Title: Liverpool v City
Post by: besty on April 04, 2018, 07:58:29 pm
Perfect stream so far if any one is interested

http://tsmsport.blogspot.co.uk/p/manchester-city.html
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: Filo on April 04, 2018, 08:45:18 pm
City have just been blown away by the Liverpool onslaught, Liverpool got lucky for the first goal though, Salah offside in the build up
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: turnbull for england on April 04, 2018, 09:00:16 pm
Man City couldn't park the bus
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: essexrover on April 04, 2018, 09:23:10 pm
Man City couldn't park the bus
They can't START the bus now either !
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: drfchound on April 04, 2018, 09:50:45 pm
Tremendous victory for Liverpool.
I know that nothing is impossible but surely City can’t win this tie now?
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: RoversAlias on April 04, 2018, 10:51:07 pm
Tremendous victory for Liverpool.
I know that nothing is impossible but surely City can’t win this tie now?

In the league fixture at the Etihad they won 5-0.

It's definitely possible but if Liverpool can nick a goal I'd say the tie is all but over. They thoroughly deserved the win tonight that's for sure, scored some nice goals and in the second half defended staunchly.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: drfchound on April 04, 2018, 11:01:03 pm
Tremendous victory for Liverpool.
I know that nothing is impossible but surely City can’t win this tie now?

In the league fixture at the Etihad they won 5-0.

It's definitely possible but if Liverpool can nick a goal I'd say the tie is all but over. They thoroughly deserved the win tonight that's for sure, scored some nice goals and in the second half defended staunchly.





Yes RA, as a non pay to view fan, I have just seen the short highlights version on ITV.
Not much difference in the two offside discussion points, both very similar and I can see why they were both wrong, or right, in the linesman’s view.
Liverpool seemed to have more composure than City.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: wing commander on April 05, 2018, 08:38:53 am
    City once again didn't turn up in a big champions league tie..For me they talked themselves out of it before the match started..All week all I've read from there players were how good Liverpool were offensively...The end result is they didn't register a shot on target all game...
    City are top of the league,about to wrap up the title in one of the quickest times ever..They shouldn't be scared of any English team..
   
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: RedJ on April 05, 2018, 12:37:55 pm
Except maybe the one team to beat them in the league at the one place they've lost in the league?
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: wing commander on April 05, 2018, 01:56:24 pm
its just one game and you can reverse that argument by saying City beat them 5-0 in the reverse fixture..Liverpools weakest part is their defence but city gave them a easy night..
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: Bezza on April 05, 2018, 02:46:28 pm
Man City couldn`t cope with the pressure, and players went missing, no away goal puts it in Liverpools favour.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: DMnumber4 on April 05, 2018, 03:32:46 pm
Tremendous victory for Liverpool.
I know that nothing is impossible but surely City can’t win this tie now?

In the league fixture at the Etihad they won 5-0.

It's definitely possible but if Liverpool can nick a goal I'd say the tie is all but over. They thoroughly deserved the win tonight that's for sure, scored some nice goals and in the second half defended staunchly.

Sticking your neck out there, RA  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: scawsby steve on April 05, 2018, 05:37:04 pm
Tremendous victory for Liverpool.
I know that nothing is impossible but surely City can’t win this tie now?

In the league fixture at the Etihad they won 5-0.

It's definitely possible but if Liverpool can nick a goal I'd say the tie is all but over. They thoroughly deserved the win tonight that's for sure, scored some nice goals and in the second half defended staunchly.

Sticking your neck out there, RA  :thumbsup:

Maybe he is, DM, but if Liverpool get that away goal, City will have to get 5. Can anyone seriously see them scoring 5 past Liverpool twice in a season?
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: ravenrover on April 05, 2018, 07:29:12 pm
particularly if Liverpool have 11 players on the pitch for 90+ minutes
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: RoversAlias on April 05, 2018, 07:44:18 pm
Tremendous victory for Liverpool.
I know that nothing is impossible but surely City can’t win this tie now?

In the league fixture at the Etihad they won 5-0.

It's definitely possible but if Liverpool can nick a goal I'd say the tie is all but over. They thoroughly deserved the win tonight that's for sure, scored some nice goals and in the second half defended staunchly.

Sticking your neck out there, RA  :thumbsup:

I'm not one for making firm predictions anymore to be fair  :lol:

As Steve said, City's chances get immeasurably smaller if Liverpool score an away goal. But I can see City winning the 2nd leg so it may end up being tight.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: Padge_DRFC on April 06, 2018, 08:14:36 pm
Liverpool are through simple as that. They will get an away goal at least 1
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on April 07, 2018, 06:36:38 pm
Rumour "allegedly" has it that Man city are trying to get that bloke who referreed the Barcelona v Paris SG 2nd leg to get the match
 :evil:
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: GazLaz on April 08, 2018, 07:52:26 am
9/2 to qualify City. I think they can do it. They are a far better side than Liverpool.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: Chris Black come back on April 08, 2018, 07:55:22 am
Not a chance.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: Donnywolf on April 08, 2018, 08:07:43 am
9/2 to qualify City. I think they can do it. They are a far better side than Liverpool.

They are but after yesterday who would say their defence can keep Liverpool out for 90 plus minutes ?

City are awesome going forward as we all know and can stop the opposition by making and taking chance after chance and in truth they could and should have been 5 or 6 up at HT yesterday

However they were not and paid the penalty when their intensity dropped and their defence came under pressure - and when it does they often crack and when they spend their mega millions it should go on defenders.

Incidentally why in gods name was THAT not a Penalty when Aguero was "assaulted" ? Penalty and a Red Card for me
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: DevilMayCry on April 08, 2018, 08:54:51 am
9/2 to qualify City. I think they can do it. They are a far better side than Liverpool.
I don’t think they can beat Liverpool at 4 goals difference (I know they beat Liverpool with 5-0 but it was a half a year ago).
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: Cantley Rover on April 08, 2018, 09:18:31 am
9/2 to qualify City. I think they can do it. They are a far better side than Liverpool.

They are but after yesterday who would say their defence can keep Liverpool out for 90 plus minutes ?

City are awesome going forward as we all know and can stop the opposition by making and taking chance after chance and in truth they could and should have been 5 or 6 up at HT yesterday

However they were not and paid the penalty when their intensity dropped and their defence came under pressure - and when it does they often crack and when they spend their mega millions it should go on defenders.

Incidentally why in gods name was THAT not a Penalty when Aguero was "assaulted" ? Penalty and a Red Card for me

Because Martin Atkinson cannot keep up with play and the bloke with the flag in a good position to see it either isn't allowed to make a decision or it's a white stick he needs not a coloured flag.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: Donnywolf on April 08, 2018, 10:23:16 am
Agreed - I thought he made many questionable decisions and they mostly seemed to favour MUFC

Not sure whether the Hand Ball by Young was deliberate but have seen them given BUT the foul was a Pen and possibly (Atkinson will now be thinking - too late) possibly a Red Card as well

.... BUT the crux of it was City had enough chances to bury their oppos and didnt. Raheem Sterling could maybe have bagged 2 Match Balls !
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: ravenrover on April 08, 2018, 11:40:28 am
Opinions heh, in real time I thought Young won the ball fairly
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: drfchound on April 08, 2018, 03:59:29 pm
My first thought when Young dived in was that it was a pen.
Replays would suggest that it should have been.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: Donnywolf on April 09, 2018, 02:48:38 pm
Opinions heh, in real time I thought Young won the ball fairly
Opinions heh, in real time I thought Young won the ball fairly

Opinions indeed. Who would be a Ref ?

I probably would have been surprised if he had given the Hand Ball (also by Young) and all I can think is he did not have a clear view of his "challenge" as it was high and a potential leg breaker

Heres the "slo-mo" and just note Sergios Leg and how much it was "bent"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NZ2diYW_jM
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: GazLaz on April 09, 2018, 03:37:35 pm
United had a miracle beating City reserves. Should have had 7 City.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: IDM on April 09, 2018, 03:52:15 pm
It is going to be tough for City especially if Liverpool score, but realistically no one will be too surprised if City do get through??
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: foxbat on April 09, 2018, 04:58:26 pm
If United can put 2 goals past city in 90 seconds , surely Liverpool can score 1 in 90 minutes ? . If Liverpool score first City will crumble the same as they did against United.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: balbyrover on April 09, 2018, 09:58:18 pm
It is going to be tough for City especially if Liverpool score, but realistically no one will be too surprised if City do get through??

I would be surprised if they manage to get through.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: Alan Southstand on April 10, 2018, 07:03:46 am
Back to the Young challenge and replay - did he not win the ball first and the momentum carried him through to Aguero's leg. I thought it was a typical Rob Jones challenge with no intent other than to win the ball. Kompany has got away with plenty of those in his time, so what goes around......

City will surely still win the league, but who cares? The amount of money on the pitch in that game was nothing short of scandalous and a perfect example of what is going wrong with football.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: drfchound on April 10, 2018, 07:30:26 am
Young had both feet off the ground as he went into the challenge.
Dangerous and possibly out of control.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: GazLaz on April 10, 2018, 09:26:10 am
The Young challenge was dreadful, very lucky not to be sent off.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: idler on April 10, 2018, 09:46:50 am
If that challenge had been the other way round Mourinho would have been very critical. The trouble is lack of consistency by the officials. We have had one or two stone wallers denied this year but seen some very soft ones given.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: rtid88 on April 10, 2018, 11:58:38 am
Off to the game tonight, really hoping for a goalfest!
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: GazLaz on April 10, 2018, 05:34:38 pm
Liverpool are a bigger price to win the game tonigh than City are to qualify. That puts things into a bit of perspective.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: leedshayter on April 10, 2018, 05:39:42 pm
Any streams for tonight’s game ? Thanks
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: Metalmicky on April 10, 2018, 07:06:50 pm
Salah plays - so breakaway goals are very possible.  If Liverpool get the first I think they will win it...
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: besty on April 10, 2018, 07:09:43 pm
Any streams for tonight’s game ? Thanks

This seems to be a perfect stream again guys

http://tsmsport.blogspot.co.uk/p/manchester-city.html
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: drfchound on April 10, 2018, 07:16:45 pm
Hi besty, I just clicked on your link and I am being asked to create a free account to be able to view.
Did you have to do the same and it is safe.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: LincsRover on April 10, 2018, 07:16:51 pm
Don’t normally bother with champions league or premiership but watching this on BTsports and quite excited at the prospect of a classic - I actually think (and had bet on) it will finish 4-1 (16/1) or 5-2 (50/1) to City with Liverpool qualifying on away goals.  :santa:
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: besty on April 10, 2018, 07:18:36 pm
Hi besty, I just clicked on your link and I am being asked to create a free account to be able to view.
Did you have to do the same and it is safe.

No just clicked on Watch Now closed any popups and good to go,no reports of any viruses from watching 1st leg so seems ok mate!
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: leedshayter on April 10, 2018, 07:21:17 pm
Top man besty thanks👍
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: drfchound on April 10, 2018, 07:55:19 pm
Well that has put the cat among the pigeons.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: besty on April 10, 2018, 08:34:35 pm
What a great half,amazing how it is so one sided like the first leg
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: mushRTID on April 10, 2018, 08:36:32 pm
Think city might regret not getting a second. Although they should have, that wasn’t offside.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: Filo on April 10, 2018, 08:38:50 pm
Think city might regret not getting a second. Although they should have, that wasn’t offside.

The only way he could be offside was if a City player played the ball, Milner played it
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: mushRTID on April 10, 2018, 08:41:25 pm
Even then he was level
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: RoversAlias on April 10, 2018, 08:56:29 pm
Even then he was level

He wasn't, he was beyond the goalkeeper.

However, if it indeed came off Milner it should stand as a goal.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: drfchound on April 10, 2018, 09:03:39 pm
Salah strikes.
That should do it for the Reds.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: darren61 on April 10, 2018, 09:07:20 pm
Good HD stream Besty, cheers
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: Filo on April 10, 2018, 09:08:24 pm
Even then he was level

He wasn't, he was beyond the goalkeeper.

However, if it indeed came off Milner it should stand as a goal.

Does n't need to be the goalkeeper, it needs to be two players, usually the goalkeeper is one of those two players
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: RoversAlias on April 10, 2018, 09:11:25 pm
Even then he was level

He wasn't, he was beyond the goalkeeper.

However, if it indeed came off Milner it should stand as a goal.

Does n't need to be the goalkeeper, it needs to be two players, usually the goalkeeper is one of those two players

Yes exactly. Sane is level with the last Liverpool defender but to be onside you must be level with at least two opposition players of any description, since Sane is beyond the goalkeeper he's offside as there's only the defender there.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: drfchound on April 10, 2018, 09:23:01 pm
Citeh done for now.
Well done Liverpool.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: DevilMayCry on April 10, 2018, 09:24:09 pm
Deja-vu....City - United?
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: Filo on April 10, 2018, 09:24:33 pm
Even then he was level

He wasn't, he was beyond the goalkeeper.

However, if it indeed came off Milner it should stand as a goal.

Does n't need to be the goalkeeper, it needs to be two players, usually the goalkeeper is one of those two players

Yes exactly. Sane is level with the last Liverpool defender but to be onside you must be level with at least two opposition players of any description, since Sane is beyond the goalkeeper he's offside as there's only the defender there.

The ball came off Milner, so he's onside
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: Filo on April 10, 2018, 09:25:28 pm
Think this ref has had a bet on Liverpool, two legitimate goals ruled out for offside
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: DevilMayCry on April 10, 2018, 09:25:56 pm
3-0 for Roma against Barcelona...Wow  :woot: At this score Barcelona is out
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: drfchound on April 10, 2018, 09:26:39 pm
Even then he was level

He wasn't, he was beyond the goalkeeper.

However, if it indeed came off Milner it should stand as a goal.

Does n't need to be the goalkeeper, it needs to be two players, usually the goalkeeper is one of those two players

Yes exactly. Sane is level with the last Liverpool defender but to be onside you must be level with at least two opposition players of any description, since Sane is beyond the goalkeeper he's offside as there's only the defender there.

The ball came off Milner, so he's onside





As they used to say, it isn’t a goal, check in the paper tomorrow.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: LincsRover on April 10, 2018, 09:33:04 pm
Whether it should or should not have counted (I think it should but it’s academic now) one thing is for sure - city were absolute dog sh*te after that! Well deserved Liverpool win!
 :turd:
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: Brian Young on April 10, 2018, 09:38:18 pm
City now lost 2 back to back at home that 3 on the Trott and away to Spurs on Saturday. Who would have thought  2 weeks ago .
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: Brian Young on April 10, 2018, 09:43:31 pm
What about Roma beating Barcelona  .Didn’t see that ones !!
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: DevilMayCry on April 10, 2018, 09:44:12 pm
What about Roma beating Barsalona .Didn’t see that ones !!
That’s like the match from Istanbul in 2005
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: drfchound on April 10, 2018, 09:44:49 pm
Hope it is Liverpool’s year to win it again.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: Metalmicky on April 10, 2018, 09:55:10 pm
Salah plays - so breakaway goals are very possible.  If Liverpool get the first I think they will win it...

Won £30 notes, as I had a fiver on Liverpool....
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: RoversAlias on April 11, 2018, 12:52:13 am
Even then he was level

He wasn't, he was beyond the goalkeeper.

However, if it indeed came off Milner it should stand as a goal.

Does n't need to be the goalkeeper, it needs to be two players, usually the goalkeeper is one of those two players

Yes exactly. Sane is level with the last Liverpool defender but to be onside you must be level with at least two opposition players of any description, since Sane is beyond the goalkeeper he's offside as there's only the defender there.

The ball came off Milner, so he's onside

Sorry Filo but are you winding me up or something? I have been saying all along that he's onside! Mush said he was level, which he clearly wasn't. IF the ball had come off a City player (which I know it didn't, it came off Milner) then Sane was stood offside despite Mush's assertion as he wasn't 'level' thanks to the advanced position of the goalkeeper.

All of this is rendered irrelevant by the fact it did indeed come off Milner, hence wrongly disallowed for offside. But I was never saying the goal should have been ruled out in the first place.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: Donnywolf on April 11, 2018, 06:02:18 am
Bring on VAR ?

Salah Offside for first goal in First Leg (goal wrongly given)

Sane not Offside for a goal that would have made it 3-1 (maybe it might have made it 2-1 cant renember exactly - Goal wrongly disallowed)

Ten Sane not Offside when score was 1-0 to City and would have made the score 2-3 right on Half Time (Goal wrongly disallowed)

I fully accept that had the goals been given or disallowed as appropriate the result(s) may still have not have been different i.e Liverpool may still have won BUT ...

.... not a great performance by different officials over 2 Legs in the worlds "premier" Club Competition and should lead to VAR across the last 16 onwards surely - much as I dislike the time and manner of its reviews
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: silent majority on April 11, 2018, 09:40:13 am
Please don't make an argument for VAR. I do mind that every decision is analysed within an inch of its life and thats what adds to the tapestry of football. Its real life sport, not a computer game.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: GazLaz on April 11, 2018, 09:59:05 am
Refereeing decisions cost city massively over the two legs. There’s nothing wrong with VAR I don’t think, it’s just the people that use it that cause the issues.
Title: Re: Liverpool v City
Post by: Filo on April 11, 2018, 10:01:06 am
Even then he was level

He wasn't, he was beyond the goalkeeper.

However, if it indeed came off Milner it should stand as a goal.

Does n't need to be the goalkeeper, it needs to be two players, usually the goalkeeper is one of those two players

Yes exactly. Sane is level with the last Liverpool defender but to be onside you must be level with at least two opposition players of any description, since Sane is beyond the goalkeeper he's offside as there's only the defender there.

The ball came off Milner, so he's onside

Sorry Filo but are you winding me up or something? I have been saying all along that he's onside! Mush said he was level, which he clearly wasn't. IF the ball had come off a City player (which I know it didn't, it came off Milner) then Sane was stood offside despite Mush's assertion as he wasn't 'level' thanks to the advanced position of the goalkeeper.

All of this is rendered irrelevant by the fact it did indeed come off Milner, hence wrongly disallowed for offside. But I was never saying the goal should have been ruled out in the first place.

Apologies, i misinterpreted your previous post