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In the whole of 2017, in the general election, local council elections and devolved Govt elections, there was a grand total of 16 instances of alleged postal vote fraud.Which right wing papers do you occasionally look at Branton?
It seems to me that some on here are quite happy to let voting fraud carry on as there was only a few alleged occurrences of it happening. Surely one occurrence is one to many and that getting voters to prove that they are who they say they are is the way to stop it? And if you seriously want to vote then getting ID to prove that wouldn't be to much of an inconvenience.The turnout at the last election was 67% leaving 33% who couldn't be bothered to vote. How many of the 33% are the ones complaining that they will be denied the right to vote.
Do you think 1 death from COVID is 1 too many and therefore we should take massively disproportionate action to make sure that one death doesn't happen?
Quote from: glosterred on January 23, 2022, 12:32:24 pmIt seems to me that some on here are quite happy to let voting fraud carry on as there was only a few alleged occurrences of it happening. Surely one occurrence is one to many and that getting voters to prove that they are who they say they are is the way to stop it? And if you seriously want to vote then getting ID to prove that wouldn't be to much of an inconvenience.The turnout at the last election was 67% leaving 33% who couldn't be bothered to vote. How many of the 33% are the ones complaining that they will be denied the right to vote. In what form do you think that ID would be? The only photo ID my Mum had was her bus pass
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on January 23, 2022, 01:38:05 pmDo you think 1 death from COVID is 1 too many and therefore we should take massively disproportionate action to make sure that one death doesn't happen?I think that attempting to subverting democracy is important and therefore to ensure we get the correct result at the ballot box then voter ID and proving who you are is important.
Quote from: ravenrover on January 23, 2022, 01:59:12 pmQuote from: glosterred on January 23, 2022, 12:32:24 pmIt seems to me that some on here are quite happy to let voting fraud carry on as there was only a few alleged occurrences of it happening. Surely one occurrence is one to many and that getting voters to prove that they are who they say they are is the way to stop it? And if you seriously want to vote then getting ID to prove that wouldn't be to much of an inconvenience.The turnout at the last election was 67% leaving 33% who couldn't be bothered to vote. How many of the 33% are the ones complaining that they will be denied the right to vote. In what form do you think that ID would be? The only photo ID my Mum had was her bus passI’m sure your mums bus pass would be acceptable, as would many other types of photo IDs. But no doubt if voters are determined to vote then getting some sort of photo ID would not prove to difficult for most.
Branton.I was responding to this comment from you.Give certain people your address and they'll come round next election time, give you a few quid and collect your postal vote from you so you don't even have to bother with that either
Ant legislation to bring in voter id should be accompanied with compulsory voting.
What punishment would you impose on people who didn't turn up to vote?
Not the question
Lots on here don’t like the idea of voter ID, the Labour Party don’t like it. But in Wakefield you need it to vote for the Labour candidate https://twitter.com/RobParsonsNorth/status/1525812793143971842
You can by putting a line through it, but compulsory voting would dispel the argument that tories are doing trump.
Quote from: glosterred on May 15, 2022, 03:09:07 pmLots on here don’t like the idea of voter ID, the Labour Party don’t like it. But in Wakefield you need it to vote for the Labour candidate https://twitter.com/RobParsonsNorth/status/1525812793143971842Unfortunately, this is correct.Labour members in Wakefield were required to show photo ID before voting in the rigged choice of candidate.The shortlist of two outsiders was imposed by Labour HQ against the wishes of Wakefield Labour.Ironically, the Labour Party OPPOSES voter ID requirements because many do not have up to date photo ID, and it reduces democratic integrity by preventing legitimate votes being cast.Utterly shameful from Starmer and Co.