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We have players that can score , but we lost good players and we haven’t stopped yet . Only those at the top know who’s coming in but not if they’ll succeed only that they should .
Some people are bizarre.I really think this place would go into melt down if we signed someone for a substantial fee. It's like you want us to do everything on the cheap.
Quote from: redarmy82 on June 16, 2019, 09:55:58 pmSome people are bizarre.I really think this place would go into melt down if we signed someone for a substantial fee. It's like you want us to do everything on the cheap. Some ARE very bizarre We won’t sign anyone for a substantial feeWe do do everything on the cheap...and it’s called “cutting ya cloth”and we are getting good at it
Quote from: sha66y on June 16, 2019, 10:08:04 pmQuote from: redarmy82 on June 16, 2019, 09:55:58 pmSome people are bizarre.I really think this place would go into melt down if we signed someone for a substantial fee. It's like you want us to do everything on the cheap. Some ARE very bizarre We won’t sign anyone for a substantial feeWe do do everything on the cheap...and it’s called “cutting ya cloth”and we are getting good at itWould you rather spend a substantial fee on a proven goalscorer to replace Marquis, or take a punt at an unknown on a free?
Quote from: redarmy82 on June 16, 2019, 10:10:22 pmQuote from: sha66y on June 16, 2019, 10:08:04 pmQuote from: redarmy82 on June 16, 2019, 09:55:58 pmSome people are bizarre.I really think this place would go into melt down if we signed someone for a substantial fee. It's like you want us to do everything on the cheap. Some ARE very bizarre We won’t sign anyone for a substantial feeWe do do everything on the cheap...and it’s called “cutting ya cloth”and we are getting good at itWould you rather spend a substantial fee on a proven goalscorer to replace Marquis, or take a punt at an unknown on a free?I would rather us spend the Marquis money to replace him with somebody with atleast a half decent scoring record.Fair enough,John turned out well but probably 1 in 8 free transfers turn out to be good goal scorers.
Quote from: since-1969 on June 16, 2019, 09:28:05 pmWe have players that can score , but we lost good players and we haven’t stopped yet . Only those at the top know who’s coming in but not if they’ll succeed only that they should .A bit like when we signed players like Marquis, Rowe, Wilks and Kane then.
Put it thisway, if we wanted to buy a 25 goal a season fow much would it cost us, more than 3 million
Quote from: jackthelad on June 16, 2019, 10:50:49 pmQuote from: redarmy82 on June 16, 2019, 10:10:22 pmQuote from: sha66y on June 16, 2019, 10:08:04 pmQuote from: redarmy82 on June 16, 2019, 09:55:58 pmSome people are bizarre.I really think this place would go into melt down if we signed someone for a substantial fee. It's like you want us to do everything on the cheap. Some ARE very bizarre We won’t sign anyone for a substantial feeWe do do everything on the cheap...and it’s called “cutting ya cloth”and we are getting good at itWould you rather spend a substantial fee on a proven goalscorer to replace Marquis, or take a punt at an unknown on a free?I would rather us spend the Marquis money to replace him with somebody with atleast a half decent scoring record.Fair enough,John turned out well but probably 1 in 8 free transfers turn out to be good goal scorers.You might think that, but the last five players to finish the season as top scorer for Rovers were actually all signed on free transfers - John Marquis, Andy Williams, Nathan Tyson, Chris Brown and Billy Paynter. You have to go back to Billy Sharp, our record signing, to find a top scorer we actually paid a transfer fee for.
Quote from: drfchound on June 16, 2019, 09:52:54 pmQuote from: since-1969 on June 16, 2019, 09:28:05 pmWe have players that can score , but we lost good players and we haven’t stopped yet . Only those at the top know who’s coming in but not if they’ll succeed only that they should .A bit like when we signed players like Marquis, Rowe, Wilks and Kane then. Did you think Kane and Wilks would score what they did , even they didn’t . If they’d played average and scored less it would have been more of what was expected . I loved to be proved wrong but lightning doesn’t strike twice in the same place .
If we sold marquis for 2 million, there would be riots if we tried to replace him with a free transfer
Quote from: dickos1 on June 17, 2019, 07:03:09 amIf we sold marquis for 2 million, there would be riots if we tried to replace him with a free transfer No, there really wouldn't. There's be some that would be "livid" in a keyboard warrior kind of way, on this forum. Praise or Grumble might even gain a few more listeners, but riots? nah.We may enter a spell of trying to find a good replacement, to the budget we've set ourselves, but that's all part of being a lower league fan isn't it? If you want constant success, support a club that throws money around to get the best players as that always guarantees success(!)
Quote from: silent majority on June 16, 2019, 07:41:21 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on June 16, 2019, 06:28:09 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on June 16, 2019, 06:27:27 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on June 16, 2019, 06:19:31 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on June 16, 2019, 06:13:07 pmQuote from: the vicar on June 16, 2019, 05:04:14 pmPut it thisway, if we wanted to buy a 25 goal a season fow much would it cost us, more than 3 millionDepends what level he scored those 25 goals. How much have Ipswich paid Tranmere for Norwood ? That is a question as I don’t know the answer.1 million, 2 million ?Free transfer.Was he out of contract. Presume he must have been. Bet his wages are 10 grand a week then.Yep.Nope.Nope to what SM? Free transfer or his wages?
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on June 16, 2019, 06:28:09 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on June 16, 2019, 06:27:27 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on June 16, 2019, 06:19:31 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on June 16, 2019, 06:13:07 pmQuote from: the vicar on June 16, 2019, 05:04:14 pmPut it thisway, if we wanted to buy a 25 goal a season fow much would it cost us, more than 3 millionDepends what level he scored those 25 goals. How much have Ipswich paid Tranmere for Norwood ? That is a question as I don’t know the answer.1 million, 2 million ?Free transfer.Was he out of contract. Presume he must have been. Bet his wages are 10 grand a week then.Yep.Nope.
Quote from: Campsall rover on June 16, 2019, 06:27:27 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on June 16, 2019, 06:19:31 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on June 16, 2019, 06:13:07 pmQuote from: the vicar on June 16, 2019, 05:04:14 pmPut it thisway, if we wanted to buy a 25 goal a season fow much would it cost us, more than 3 millionDepends what level he scored those 25 goals. How much have Ipswich paid Tranmere for Norwood ? That is a question as I don’t know the answer.1 million, 2 million ?Free transfer.Was he out of contract. Presume he must have been. Bet his wages are 10 grand a week then.Yep.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on June 16, 2019, 06:19:31 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on June 16, 2019, 06:13:07 pmQuote from: the vicar on June 16, 2019, 05:04:14 pmPut it thisway, if we wanted to buy a 25 goal a season fow much would it cost us, more than 3 millionDepends what level he scored those 25 goals. How much have Ipswich paid Tranmere for Norwood ? That is a question as I don’t know the answer.1 million, 2 million ?Free transfer.Was he out of contract. Presume he must have been. Bet his wages are 10 grand a week then.
Quote from: Campsall rover on June 16, 2019, 06:13:07 pmQuote from: the vicar on June 16, 2019, 05:04:14 pmPut it thisway, if we wanted to buy a 25 goal a season fow much would it cost us, more than 3 millionDepends what level he scored those 25 goals. How much have Ipswich paid Tranmere for Norwood ? That is a question as I don’t know the answer.1 million, 2 million ?Free transfer.
Quote from: the vicar on June 16, 2019, 05:04:14 pmPut it thisway, if we wanted to buy a 25 goal a season fow much would it cost us, more than 3 millionDepends what level he scored those 25 goals. How much have Ipswich paid Tranmere for Norwood ? That is a question as I don’t know the answer.1 million, 2 million ?
It’s not really relevant how many goals they’ve scored at a particular level Marquis hadn’t scored at this level when we signed him, Sharp hadn’t scored many at championship level, Ipswich have just signed someone who’s only scored at league two level When Peterborough signed players like Gayle, Marriott, asamobolonga his many goals had they scored at that level
Quote from: DRNaith on June 17, 2019, 07:33:08 amQuote from: dickos1 on June 17, 2019, 07:03:09 amIf we sold marquis for 2 million, there would be riots if we tried to replace him with a free transfer No, there really wouldn't. There's be some that would be "livid" in a keyboard warrior kind of way, on this forum. Praise or Grumble might even gain a few more listeners, but riots? nah.We may enter a spell of trying to find a good replacement, to the budget we've set ourselves, but that's all part of being a lower league fan isn't it? If you want constant success, support a club that throws money around to get the best players as that always guarantees success(!)Wasn’t expecting anyone to think I meant literally riots. McCann has already stated he has a list of players that we would go for is marquis left. There’s no way we would leave it until January before we sign a replacement. We’ve always been told by the board that money raised from football related business will be re invested into the first team squad so I don’t think it has anything to do with supporting clubs that throw money around or wanting guaranteed success
Quote from: dickos1 on June 17, 2019, 09:25:41 amIt’s not really relevant how many goals they’ve scored at a particular level Marquis hadn’t scored at this level when we signed him, Sharp hadn’t scored many at championship level, Ipswich have just signed someone who’s only scored at league two level When Peterborough signed players like Gayle, Marriott, asamobolonga his many goals had they scored at that level We didn’t sign Marquis at 27 though. Likewise Sharp. Hence me mentioning his age. Now it could be that a player is a late bloomer (Ian Wright, Rickie Lambert) but the odds are that if you have played 95pc of your career below League One level and you are 27 in August, there is probably a reason for that. Also, a two year contract would put them at 29 when we come round to considering their future next. How many Championship teams would take a major punt on a 29 year old for good money (which we would want) even if he had a massive success in those two years.Bear in mind also that Marquis and Sharp had come from larger clubs and were finding their feet at smaller clubs - whereas this guy (who is merely a case in point at 27 having played the vast bulk of his career at below League One level - big difference). The Peterborough players you cite were likewise not 27. They were a world away from that scenario.