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Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on December 09, 2019, 07:35:03 pmSproty.The investment is PRECISELY the thing. The increase in population is mainly of prime working age people. Precisely the people who do NOT put a burden on public services. But the Tories have overseen a decade of stagnant NHS funding. And THAT is why it's in crisis.They want you to think it's the fault of them bas**rd migrants. It's not. It's the fault of the bas**rds in charge.Who was in power from 1997 to 2010 Billy?
Sproty.The investment is PRECISELY the thing. The increase in population is mainly of prime working age people. Precisely the people who do NOT put a burden on public services. But the Tories have overseen a decade of stagnant NHS funding. And THAT is why it's in crisis.They want you to think it's the fault of them bas**rd migrants. It's not. It's the fault of the bas**rds in charge.
Quote from: Sprotyrover on December 09, 2019, 07:03:50 pmThe current population of the UK is 67 million the population in 2000 was 58 million, the birth rate per 1000 has decline from 12 to 11 children barely 2 per family. Where have the 9 million come from, has there been any planning and investment in services and the infrastructure to cope with this rise since 2000 ?We are living an average 3/4 years longer than the year 2000. It has unfortunately stopped growing in the last few years though.
The current population of the UK is 67 million the population in 2000 was 58 million, the birth rate per 1000 has decline from 12 to 11 children barely 2 per family. Where have the 9 million come from, has there been any planning and investment in services and the infrastructure to cope with this rise since 2000 ?
Quote from: Sprotyrover on December 09, 2019, 10:01:38 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on December 09, 2019, 07:35:03 pmSproty.The investment is PRECISELY the thing. The increase in population is mainly of prime working age people. Precisely the people who do NOT put a burden on public services. But the Tories have overseen a decade of stagnant NHS funding. And THAT is why it's in crisis.They want you to think it's the fault of them bas**rd migrants. It's not. It's the fault of the bas**rds in charge.Who was in power from 1997 to 2010 Billy?Sproty.Before you make a fool of yourself again, do a bit of research.NHS funding 1997-2010 and 2010-2019.Go have a look. It's stunning.
Ch4 news has an interesting overview of the state of the NHS under the Tories;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqyMHsMGD5MIgnore it at your peril.
Oh by the way lthough A&E was crammed last night on my way to x Ray I counted 68 empty trolleys in all sorts of shapes and sizes.One of the nurses mentioned the little Boy in Leeds and he had been put on a Trolley, his mum took him of and took the photo.one of her mates from uni works at Leeds.
It is not 100% genuine. The child was on a drip in a chair which, though not ideal, is a perfectly acceptable clinical situation. The childs mother has out him on the floor. A drip needs gravity in general to work not placed on the floor. Also and more importantly infection control would not allow placing of a patient on the floor. In the uncropped photo chair and trolley can be seen
HA combination of looking at the uncropped photo and reading the mothers own account in the YP. The infection control bit is assuming Leeds would work to the same standard policies of the trust where I work
There is talk that it's faked but that's easy to say given the current climate, it's also very easy to believe, but more easily IMO to believe that the rumours of it being fake are fake....What I can believe is the baby having to sleep in a chair for some time. Last year we were unfortunate enough to have our youngest (who was less than 6 months at the time) contract meningitis. The service from doctors surgery through to hospital was superb, the only downside was waiting 3/4 hours for a bed whilst they diagnosed her, which meant sitting with her in my arms for a few hours. There has to be a better way to do that, which wouldn't be too hard. After that 3/4 hours they were superb, she had a room with sensory lighting etc and her Mum could stay in with her. It was first class, the only grumble was that period waiting.
Alternatively a local Journo has this accountA local Journo appears to be digging deeper..Confirmed that my source is indeed a nurse from the hospital. Her account: 'Every member of staff' there at the time knows that 1.Yes it was busy. 2. No, the child was not treated on the floor. 3.A bed WAS available. 4.The child was 'placed' on the floor for a photo. Will update.