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Title: Gills v TLOD
Post by: glosterred on April 07, 2023, 02:03:17 pm
Todays team, Jack Goodman starts


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Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: Spud on April 07, 2023, 02:27:14 pm
& Bobby, hallelujah.
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Post by: karldew on April 07, 2023, 02:30:06 pm
Why a horrid line up. Can see a 3+ goal loss today.
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Post by: sedwardsdrfc on April 07, 2023, 02:33:56 pm
Glad to see Faulkner and Goodman get a game. Wish it was with some better players around them.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: Spud on April 07, 2023, 02:40:09 pm
Why a horrid line up. Can see a 3+ goal loss today.

We've been having those with our supposed best eleven, hold tight.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: Thorney on April 07, 2023, 02:55:02 pm
That's a young back line
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Post by: roversdude on April 07, 2023, 03:01:09 pm
Who is on iFollow with Hoden
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Post by: ScillyRover on April 07, 2023, 03:02:09 pm
Who is on iFollow with Hoden
Peter Catt
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Post by: roversdude on April 07, 2023, 03:02:44 pm
Thank you
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: glosterred on April 07, 2023, 03:05:34 pm
2' Bobby Faulkner is out quickly to close down Aiden O'Brien and put the ball behind.

The resulting corner is headed over by Tom Nichols.


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Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: Barmby Rover on April 07, 2023, 03:11:22 pm
All Gillingham at the moment
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Post by: Filo on April 07, 2023, 03:14:19 pm
Give us a kick of the ball please
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: glosterred on April 07, 2023, 03:15:42 pm
12' Oli Hawkins heads MacDonald's cross over the bar.

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Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: glosterred on April 07, 2023, 03:18:26 pm
14' Good chance for Rovers as Ben Close forces a save from Glenn Morris down to his right.

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Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: roversdude on April 07, 2023, 03:21:33 pm
No Anderson again
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: glosterred on April 07, 2023, 03:22:47 pm
Tommy Rowe receives some treatment but is back up and able to continue.

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Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: glosterred on April 07, 2023, 03:25:51 pm
22' Nichols breaks down the left before Luke Molyneux heads clear, with Timothee Dieng dragging the follow up shot wide.

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Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: EasyforDennis on April 07, 2023, 03:37:47 pm
I have no idea what system DS is trying to play and it seems the players have no idea either. It's the usual stuff we produce every week and looks like it's just a matter of time before we concede
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: glosterred on April 07, 2023, 03:38:05 pm
SO CLOSE! Ben Nelson's goal bound header is nodded up onto the bar by a Gillingham defender.

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Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: Bessie Red on April 07, 2023, 03:38:56 pm
I have no idea what system DS is trying to play and it seems the players have no idea either. It's the usual stuff we produce every week and looks like it's just a matter of time before we concede

We look so much better than we have for weeks, playing 3 in the middle helps!
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: jmt23 on April 07, 2023, 03:39:25 pm
They are doing well and are currently the better team, plenty of fight, desire, some good play and with shots!
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Post by: Jimmydee on April 07, 2023, 03:39:52 pm
I think that confidence is kicking in and it’s looking more promising
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Post by: redarmi66 on April 07, 2023, 03:40:37 pm
36 mins and i think we have settled in now. Young lads doing well. Had a couple of good chances. Not playing out from the back.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: glosterred on April 07, 2023, 03:40:50 pm
37' A break in play here as Gillingham's Conor Masterson receives treatment for a head injury.

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Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: Metalmicky on April 07, 2023, 03:41:23 pm
I have no idea what system DS is trying to play and it seems the players have no idea either. It's the usual stuff we produce every week and looks like it's just a matter of time before we concede

They are doing well and are currently the better team, plenty of fight, desire, some good play and with shots!
I think that confidence is kicking in and it’s looking more promising

It's all about opinions eh......
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: Barmby Rover on April 07, 2023, 03:45:35 pm
1-0 game over?
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Post by: ScillyRover on April 07, 2023, 03:45:40 pm
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Post by: drfchound on April 07, 2023, 03:45:55 pm
SO CLOSE! Ben Nelson's goal bound header is nodded up onto the bar by a Gillingham defender.

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As daft at it may seem, that wont count as an attempt on target.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: glosterred on April 07, 2023, 03:46:33 pm
43' Goal Gillingham. Tom Nichols gives the home side the lead.

A long throw into the box fell to Nichols at the back post, who volleyed in his sixth goal for the Gills.


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Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: Barmby Rover on April 07, 2023, 03:46:52 pm
Maybe pessimistic, but only one chance produced this half. Without producing shots on goal there is little chance of scoring.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: jmt23 on April 07, 2023, 03:47:46 pm
When you’re lucks out it’s out, a good finish by their player. We don’t deserve it, but let’s see what happens next, will we shrink and concede a few, or show some fight.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: foxbat on April 07, 2023, 03:48:16 pm
that's probably it then ☹
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: StocksArmy on April 07, 2023, 03:49:16 pm
Not quite sure how this guy is going to be in a job next season. Our striker is never anything more than an 11th man.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: jmt23 on April 07, 2023, 03:50:40 pm
We have hit the bar from Longs header, and the post I think from Closes shot. We have also  had numerous strikes at goal - that is a million times better than the past few weeks
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: mpc123 on April 07, 2023, 03:50:48 pm
We have ruined Miller now let's ruin Goodman.

No attacking intent at all.

Nothing this guy is going to do is with an attacking enthusiasm.

Please get rid of this clown
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: monkeytennis on April 07, 2023, 03:51:25 pm
Don’t worry we’re going to have an injection of funds for next season
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Post by: Donny Exile in York on April 07, 2023, 03:51:42 pm
I'm not supporting DS but Arteta or Guadialo wouldn't get a result with this line up and the squad available.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: jmt23 on April 07, 2023, 03:52:36 pm
Not sure some commenting are watching this game? We have had more threat than them so far.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: EasyforDennis on April 07, 2023, 03:54:51 pm
We had a warning in the first few minutes when we left a player on his own at the back post and he headed it over when he should have scored. We do exactly the same thing near half time but this time they score. We can't score and we can't defend.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: EasyforDennis on April 07, 2023, 03:57:58 pm
Not sure some commenting are watching this game? We have had more threat than them so far.

Are you serious?
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: Beerseller on April 07, 2023, 03:58:09 pm
The Gillingham commentary team reckon they just about shaded what they described as a scrappy first half.

They also said our forward line lacked physicality, presence and threat.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: Filo on April 07, 2023, 04:00:47 pm
Feel a bit sorry for Goodman all alone up top while his team mates meander around
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Post by: adamtherover on April 07, 2023, 04:01:05 pm
Annoying thing, is that these lot dont actually look that good..  shame one goal was all that's needed...
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: danumdon on April 07, 2023, 04:02:13 pm
Typical Nieves defending by us again to concede. But when you have a big target man worthy of the title he takes the attention of all our defenders away allowing a player out wide left and unmarked to score with all the time in the world. You could say it was Moly’s man but I never thought I’d see him playing at  left wingback?

We must be exhibiting the lightest and weakest midfield this side of  Bessacarr boys under 13’s. This looks like a 541 formation of the very worst type, Really feel for  Goodman who is left isolated like ever forward we have played this season.

Whatever DS is saying to the team they just have no conception of what he wants and it shows in every game,

This can go either as a hard fought one goal loss or another capitulation, what’s the odds of another demoralising loss.

I just cannot see where this guy can spend our benefactors money in a  profitable way, every player he’s brought in has become nervy and risk averse to the extent that they cannot play with any forward momentum, Westbrook’s is the latest to fall into line, and become a rearward facing back pass specialist.

Just get rid before he does any more damage and keep your cash in your pocket Mr B.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: Ronnie Dovers on April 07, 2023, 04:07:52 pm
The Gillingham commentary team reckon they just about shaded what they described as a scrappy first half.

They also said our forward line lacked physicality, presence and threat.

Pretty much spot on I'd say. We've competed well, had a few little spells where we've shown a bit of quality and managed a decent effort on goal, and switched off on a long throw to concede.

Goodman is trying, and the biggest compliment I can give him is that, in terms of physicality and competing for the ball, he doesn't look like an 18 year old on his first senior start. But when you're as isolated as our lone strikers are under this manager, it's a thankless task. We'd make Haaland look helpless.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: Filo on April 07, 2023, 04:08:18 pm
Not sure some commenting are watching this game? We have had more threat than them so far.

We’ve had 4 shots to their 7, you must be watching a different game
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on April 07, 2023, 04:15:55 pm
A weaker team with several first choice players out yet folk expect better results from DS?

With the line ups we're able to put out it's looking for the positives particularly from the young players. Any positive performances and results are a bonus under difficult circumstances.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: glosterred on April 07, 2023, 04:18:52 pm
53' Molyneux floats a ball into the box but Glenn Morris is there to claim it.

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Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: drfchound on April 07, 2023, 04:21:52 pm
A weaker team with several first choice players out yet folk expect better results from DS?

With the line ups we're able to put out it's looking for the positives particularly from the young players. Any positive performances and results are a bonus under difficult circumstances.

I'm not expecting better results over these last few games Baz but lets be honest, we haven't looked like getting many good results under Schofield.
I was expecting his defenders to use the injuries as his free pass from now to the end of the season though.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: glosterred on April 07, 2023, 04:25:13 pm
 59' Nichols' has two attempts at goal, the second of which ends up on the roof of the net.

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Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: Steadfast on April 07, 2023, 04:29:35 pm
Referee's decided young strikers early in their career are fair game for defenders.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: glosterred on April 07, 2023, 04:31:50 pm
66' Three changes for Rovers.

ON - James Brown, Liam Ravenhill & Kieran Agard

OFF - Charlie Seaman, Tommy Rowe & Jack Goodman

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Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: glosterred on April 07, 2023, 04:34:00 pm
69' Aidan Barlow makes a good run forward but his pass can't find Agard.

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Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: EasyforDennis on April 07, 2023, 04:34:05 pm
A weaker team with several first choice players out yet folk expect better results from DS?

With the line ups we're able to put out it's looking for the positives particularly from the young players. Any positive performances and results are a bonus under difficult circumstances.

It's not a case of expecting better results, it's more a case of seeing some signs of any kind of system. The only real positives are the 2 youngsters, the rest can join DS in the taxi queue.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: mpc123 on April 07, 2023, 04:34:29 pm
Not sure some commenting are watching this game? We have had more threat than them so far.

Defiantely watching, we just had 5 men against Goodman before he got cramp
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: Ronnie Dovers on April 07, 2023, 04:35:00 pm
Referee's decided young strikers early in their career are fair game for defenders.

Very frustrating, he's let them clatter Goodman from behind numerous times
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: Ronnie Dovers on April 07, 2023, 04:37:32 pm
A weaker team with several first choice players out yet folk expect better results from DS?

With the line ups we're able to put out it's looking for the positives particularly from the young players. Any positive performances and results are a bonus under difficult circumstances.

It's a problem that we're in league two and that's the situation we're in though, yeah?
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: glosterred on April 07, 2023, 04:38:06 pm
72' Close forces a save from Morris with an effort from the edge of the box.

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Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on April 07, 2023, 04:40:19 pm
A weaker team with several first choice players out yet folk expect better results from DS?

With the line ups we're able to put out it's looking for the positives particularly from the young players. Any positive performances and results are a bonus under difficult circumstances.

It's a problem that we're in league two and that's the situation we're in though, yeah?

Nah it’s all ok. Asking a bit much to win a game or really have a go. Should be proud of the loss and any result is a bonus.

Jesus how low expectations are! Honestly don’t think we’ll win a game again this season and some think that’s sound!
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: glosterred on April 07, 2023, 04:42:47 pm
77' Mitchell gets down well to deny the substitute George Lapslie.

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Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: Barmby Rover on April 07, 2023, 04:42:56 pm
 A better second half, 2 shots on target so far.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: glosterred on April 07, 2023, 04:48:52 pm
83' Molyneux cuts inside and shoots from 25 yards but his effort is always rising over the bar.

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Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: glosterred on April 07, 2023, 04:49:54 pm
84' Agard is off target with his shot after finding space behind the Gillingham defence.

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Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: glosterred on April 07, 2023, 04:53:49 pm
88' Aidan Barlow is shown a yellow card.

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Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: glosterred on April 07, 2023, 04:55:57 pm
89' Kyle Hurst replaces Zain Westbrooke.

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Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: Ronnie Dovers on April 07, 2023, 05:01:19 pm
I think there are two very different but equally frustrating ways of looking at this game:

We've been marginally second best
and are likely to lose against a bottom third league two team having started the season aiming for promotion.

OR

We've competed well and arguably deserve a point away against one of the form teams in league two with an extremely weakened side.

Imagine if we'd gone for it this season, because my god, this is an appalling league.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: glosterred on April 07, 2023, 05:03:02 pm
Full time 1-0. It sounded a better game to listen to but it’s yet another defeat.

On to Monday

Onwards and upwards

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Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: ScillyRover on April 07, 2023, 05:03:21 pm
A slightly better performance but two sides reflecting their league positions. Both lacking in creativity, lots of scrappy play and very little quality from either side. A reflection on the poor standard in league 2 this season.
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Post by: redarmi66 on April 07, 2023, 05:06:10 pm
10 shots and scrapped. That is an improvement particularly with the players available.
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Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on April 07, 2023, 05:08:04 pm
Exactly. So it shouldn't take too much to turn the squad into contenders.

I've yet to see any team be head and shoulders above any other and we, more often than not, have shot ourselves in the foot.

The Free Press reporting sounded quite positive  about today's performance.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: Bessie Red on April 07, 2023, 05:08:27 pm
Not sure some commenting are watching this game? We have had more threat than them so far.

We’ve had 4 shots to their 7, you must be watching a different game
Final tally
Gills 13 shots - 4 on target
Rovers 10 shots - 3 on target
Reflects what I watched, a very even game. We deserved a point from today. Much improved from a very low starting point.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: The Beast on April 07, 2023, 05:10:06 pm
88' Aidan Barlow is shown a yellow card.

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How did Barlow get a yellow? I've yet to see him make a challenge.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: Bessie Red on April 07, 2023, 05:10:26 pm
I think there are two very different but equally frustrating ways of looking at this game:

We've been marginally second best
and are likely to lose against a bottom third league two team having started the season aiming for promotion.

OR

We've competed well and arguably deserve a point away against one of the form teams in league two with an extremely weakened side. Imagine if we'd gone for it this season, because my god, this is an appalling league.
Definitely b) in my opinion!
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: Filo on April 07, 2023, 05:14:07 pm
A weaker team with several first choice players out yet folk expect better results from DS?

With the line ups we're able to put out it's looking for the positives particularly from the young players. Any positive performances and results are a bonus under difficult circumstances.

Regardless of that we need to see some structure and pattern to our play instead of kick and rush up to our isolated striker
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: mpc123 on April 07, 2023, 05:17:49 pm
Every game we play too deep.

It never changes how do you think it will change when months later it hasn't.

A very young lad upfront on his own with nobody insight. That's what's happened from day one and still happens now.

Of course the players could be better, but if we play the same it still means ol1 upfront with 5 players round him and our players 20 yards behind, no matter how good you are, your still not doing anything from there.

Nothing is changing.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: turnbull for england on April 07, 2023, 06:08:08 pm
88' Aidan Barlow is shown a yellow card.

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How did Barlow get a yellow? I've yet to see him make a challenge.

Dissent, ravenhill went down in our box and ref played on . Seemed correct if not a foul  as was a back injury
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: drfchound on April 07, 2023, 06:54:06 pm
I said after the recent Crawley defeat that I doubted that we could win another game this season.
Nothing has changed my mind.
Title: Re: Gills v TLOD
Post by: Filo on April 07, 2023, 06:58:48 pm
I said after the recent Crawley defeat that I doubted that we could win another game this season.
Nothing has changed my mind.


I agree, especially while DS stays at the helm, I’ve seen teams on Stainy Welfare better organised