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andy didcott

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #30 on February 01, 2024, 05:14:52 pm by andy didcott »
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Bills view

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #31 on February 01, 2024, 05:17:46 pm by Bills view »
I know we should look forward but what kind of budget did Darren Moore have? Did he know too?

Nudga

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #32 on February 01, 2024, 05:22:01 pm by Nudga »
I know we should look forward but what kind of budget did Darren Moore have? Did he know too?

The rumours surfaced under Darren fergusons departure

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #33 on February 01, 2024, 05:31:16 pm by nightporter »
Not sure why Schofield era is being brought into question. We know all this and it was before brammal’s statement in the summer

Brammalls statement of significant funds is b*llocks and more wind and piss.
Yes he's put more funds in but I wouldn't say significant.
Actually, it probably is significant compared to what Wellens and Schofield had.

Depends what TB thinks is significant, my old Grandma used to slip 5p into my hand and say 'enjoy'

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #34 on February 01, 2024, 05:35:40 pm by The Beast »
Looks like people are already writing this poor lad off! I’ll give him a chance if France u20s can.

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #35 on February 01, 2024, 06:14:33 pm by ForsolongaRover »
Had a loan at Stevenage last season, small sample size but comparatively to Jones this season...
Doesn't leave his line anywhere near as much as Jones
Long passing numbers aren't anywhere near as good as Jones
Save percentage is better
Prevented goals are nearly identical, both underperform their expected goals against.

Don't watch the goals he conceded against Mansfield or Wimbledon.

The leaving-his-line stats are presumably derived from GPS positional data. Coming out to narrow angles and to intercept crosses is the key stat where Jones would not register a great deal. A GK just wandering around his area when the ball is not there and coming out to gather it from defenders when under no pressure would register positively and indicate nothing about his courage in confronting opposition attackers and dangerous crosses. If I am right, and I admit I'm prejudiced and  McCann has chosen someone who puts more effort into staying out of trouble than Jones then God Help Us. The fact that he is from Hull City and he also chose Lawlor does not fill me with great hope. 

Talking of not watching goals there are rather more than two in the Jones back-catalogue.

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #36 on February 01, 2024, 06:24:16 pm by Colemans Left Hook »
Knows the area.

 i presume he knows the penalty area and doesn't treat it as "no mans land" - hopefully he will come out for crosses and shout "MINE"

 

TonySoprano

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #37 on February 01, 2024, 06:43:18 pm by TonySoprano »
Team full of untested kids and national league players.

Thanks brammall, for nothing

dickos1

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #38 on February 01, 2024, 06:55:32 pm by dickos1 »
Not sure why Schofield era is being brought into question. We know all this and it was before brammal’s statement in the summer
Yet in the MTO meeting we only have a mid table budget straight from TBs mouth after extra funds were put in

Transfer budget?
I imagine that would be reduced due to the number of players we already have.
Our wage bill will be above midtable just by the quantity of players we have

Draytonian III

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #39 on February 01, 2024, 06:57:32 pm by Draytonian III »
Team full of untested kids and national league players.

Thanks brammall, for nothing


So can you please explain which player is in each category  ?

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #40 on February 01, 2024, 06:58:22 pm by selby »
  Peanuts was too much for DS the way he wanted players to play who couldn't, he was supposed to be a top coach and had just one view on the way the game can be played, Stevenage played it another way with a manager who would never be thought of as a revolutionary coach, nor would Warnock who turned Schofield's flops into a team in a couple of weeks at Huddersfield because he recognised  what they could do well. An educated idiot was our DS while here, and at Huddersfield.

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #41 on February 01, 2024, 07:02:23 pm by dickos1 »
Team full of untested kids and national league players.

Thanks brammall, for nothing

Untested kids and national league players!
Just summed up how clueless you are with one sentence.
Absolute fruitcake

Alan Southstand

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #42 on February 01, 2024, 07:03:04 pm by Alan Southstand »
Says everything about the people selecting managers, Selby.

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #43 on February 01, 2024, 07:09:16 pm by Draytonian III »
Team full of untested kids and national league players.

Thanks brammall, for nothing

Untested kids and national league players!
Just summed up how clueless you are with one sentence.
Absolute fruitcake


Fruitcake is absolutely right but I think it’s a fruitcake that has been on this forum before under a different name or four.

silent majority

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #44 on February 01, 2024, 07:14:07 pm by silent majority »
Not sure why Schofield era is being brought into question. We know all this and it was before brammal’s statement in the summer
Yet in the MTO meeting we only have a mid table budget straight from TBs mouth after extra funds were put in

That's not what he said at all, completely misdirected!!




Herbert Anchovy

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #45 on February 01, 2024, 07:33:35 pm by Herbert Anchovy »
Quote from one of my closest pals who’s a Hull fan

“He’s a real character this guy. We got him from Spurs. He’s been a bit hit & miss at our level but should do a job in League 2.”

That’ll do for me.

Chris Black come back

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #46 on February 01, 2024, 07:37:21 pm by Chris Black come back »
We are 90th out of 92.

It’s been a slow motion car crash for so long that it creeps up on you but when you look, what the f**k has gone on here?

We’ve got no saleable assets whatsoever, one of the largest squads outside the Premier League, losing to clubs with half our resources on a regular, pretty much weekly basis, and are going to Sutton United of all places in hope we can somehow snatch a point to help our claim to remain a league side.

Canadian Rover

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #47 on February 01, 2024, 07:54:42 pm by Canadian Rover »
Would have loved to have seen an experienced GK come in until the end of the season, however I was really impressed when we had Dieng on loan, maybe this lad will be similar in performance levels. I'm not going to pre judge him before he ever plays a game for us.

It's fairly obvious that Grant is going by recommendations from the two ex Tottenham lads in the squad and he really values Barry Richardsons opinion.

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #48 on February 01, 2024, 07:57:10 pm by Chris Black come back »
I’ve no issue with this lad coming in, not least as available quality keepers to sign permanently in January are not going to be plentiful. What is far more concerning is that when we have had time and availability in the summer, we didn’t do this. It’s a priority position and like most of our defence, we haven’t invested for years in credible, senior players, with predictable results.

TonySoprano

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #49 on February 01, 2024, 08:02:17 pm by TonySoprano »
Team full of untested kids and national league players.

Thanks brammall, for nothing

Untested kids and national league players!
Just summed up how clueless you are with one sentence.
Absolute fruitcake

Jamie sterry - national league
Tom nixon - loan - only tested in national league
Jay mcgrath - untested
George broadband- only tested in national league
Owen Bailey- national league
Conor carty- untested kid on loan
Matthew Craig- untested kid on loan
Lo tutla - kid on loan
Lavery - national league
Deji Sotona- untested kid
Jack senior - national league
Charlie Seaman - only tested in national league
Joe olowu - only tested in national league

dickos1

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #50 on February 01, 2024, 08:10:39 pm by dickos1 »
Oh so your point is the club they’ve come from rather than the level of player.
That’s ridiculous
Where did we get coppinger from? mcindoe from? Blundell from?
Shitloads of players have come from non league and made a name for themselves even made the England team, ridiculous to suggest that because they’ve come from a national league side then they’re garbage
But not a surprise from u

colincramb

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #51 on February 01, 2024, 08:11:46 pm by colincramb »
Not sure why Schofield era is being brought into question. We know all this and it was before brammal’s statement in the summer

Brammalls statement of significant funds is b*llocks and more wind and piss.
Yes he's put more funds in but I wouldn't say significant.
Actually, it probably is significant compared to what Wellens and Schofield had.

It’s not b*llocks, as you put it. The fact is our budget (whether you like it or not, or whether it fits your narrative) is substantially more than probably 50% of the teams in this division. Underperforming with what we’ve got/injuries/poor recruitment has stuffed us.

Thats the truth. Like I say, might not fit your narrative about TB though

TonySoprano

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #52 on February 01, 2024, 08:12:52 pm by TonySoprano »
Oh so your point is the club they’ve come from rather than the level of player.
That’s ridiculous
Where did we get coppinger from? mcindoe from? Blundell from?
Shitloads of players have come from non league and made a name for themselves even made the England team, ridiculous to suggest that because they’ve come from a national league side then they’re garbage
But not a surprise from u
My point is every one of them were untested, or signed from non league, and yet your surprised that's where we're heading ?

One or 2 players from non league cab be gems, but to build a TEAM of them is suicide.
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dickos1

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #53 on February 01, 2024, 08:15:15 pm by dickos1 »
Oh so your point is the club they’ve come from rather than the level of player.
That’s ridiculous
Where did we get coppinger from? mcindoe from? Blundell from?
Shitloads of players have come from non league and made a name for themselves even made the England team, ridiculous to suggest that because they’ve come from a national league side then they’re garbage
But not a surprise from u
My point is every one of them were untested, or signed from non league, and yet your surprised that's where we're heading ?

But there’s nothing wrong with being signed from non league, so your point is utter nonsense

TonySoprano

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #54 on February 01, 2024, 08:17:26 pm by TonySoprano »
Oh so your point is the club they’ve come from rather than the level of player.
That’s ridiculous
Where did we get coppinger from? mcindoe from? Blundell from?
Shitloads of players have come from non league and made a name for themselves even made the England team, ridiculous to suggest that because they’ve come from a national league side then they’re garbage
But not a surprise from u
My point is every one of them were untested, or signed from non league, and yet your surprised that's where we're heading ?

But there’s nothing wrong with being signed from non league, so your point is utter nonsense
It's not though is it?

Some excellent players have come from non league, but they are anomalies. To try and build a TEAM of them is suicide, and results in one thing.
Relegation to the league they were all signed from.

dickos1

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #55 on February 01, 2024, 08:20:43 pm by dickos1 »
Also
Wood, Ironside, Anderson, Rowe, biggins, close, westbrooke, molyneux, miller,

You missed those off you list
Clown

dickos1

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #56 on February 01, 2024, 08:22:52 pm by dickos1 »
Oh so your point is the club they’ve come from rather than the level of player.
That’s ridiculous
Where did we get coppinger from? mcindoe from? Blundell from?
Shitloads of players have come from non league and made a name for themselves even made the England team, ridiculous to suggest that because they’ve come from a national league side then they’re garbage
But not a surprise from u
My point is every one of them were untested, or signed from non league, and yet your surprised that's where we're heading ?

But there’s nothing wrong with being signed from non league, so your point is utter nonsense
It's not though is it?

Some excellent players have come from non league, but they are anomalies. To try and build a TEAM of them is suicide, and results in one thing.
Relegation to the league they were all signed from.

There’ll be hundreds of players around the country in the efl that have been signed from non league
Your argument is nonsense

TonySoprano

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #57 on February 01, 2024, 08:23:08 pm by TonySoprano »
Also
Wood, Ironside, Anderson, Rowe, biggins, close, westbrooke, molyneux, miller,

You missed those off you list
Clown
Wow, you really are clueless aren't you ?

TonySoprano

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #58 on February 01, 2024, 08:25:32 pm by TonySoprano »
Oh so your point is the club they’ve come from rather than the level of player.
That’s ridiculous
Where did we get coppinger from? mcindoe from? Blundell from?
Shitloads of players have come from non league and made a name for themselves even made the England team, ridiculous to suggest that because they’ve come from a national league side then they’re garbage
But not a surprise from u
My point is every one of them were untested, or signed from non league, and yet your surprised that's where we're heading ?

But there’s nothing wrong with being signed from non league, so your point is utter nonsense
It's not though is it?

Some excellent players have come from non league, but they are anomalies. To try and build a TEAM of them is suicide, and results in one thing.
Relegation to the league they were all signed from.

There’ll be hundreds of players around the country in the efl that have been signed from non league
Your argument is nonsense
Engage your brain, my point is that DRFC have tried to build a TEAM around these players.
The only way that works is by being incredibly incredibly lucky, and no league team has EVER done it successfully

Nudga

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Re: Incoming goalkeeper
« Reply #59 on February 01, 2024, 08:28:46 pm by Nudga »
Not sure why Schofield era is being brought into question. We know all this and it was before brammal’s statement in the summer

Brammalls statement of significant funds is b*llocks and more wind and piss.
Yes he's put more funds in but I wouldn't say significant.
Actually, it probably is significant compared to what Wellens and Schofield had.

It’s not b*llocks, as you put it. The fact is our budget (whether you like it or not, or whether it fits your narrative) is substantially more than probably 50% of the teams in this division. Underperforming with what we’ve got/injuries/poor recruitment has stuffed us.

Thats the truth. Like I say, might not fit your narrative about TB though

"50% of the teams in this division" so roughly around mid table.

Definitely poor recruitment. You could say pay peanuts and get monkeys.

Are you happy where this club has been heading in the last few years? You can defend brammal as much as you like, that's your right to do so but I am not happy that we are right back to where we were in the early 90s but in a cleaner stadium.

Darragh McAnthony (like him or loathe him) has more ambition in his left foot than Brammall and is worth a hell of lot less but Peterbrough are always trying to compete.
Peterborough for god sake!!
About time we started thinking that we are a bigger club than most in leagues 1 and 2, it might actually get us somewhere.


I await the, "well you put your money in then" or "people like to spend other people's money"

I tell you now, if I did have Brammalls money, we wouldn't be pissing about trying to avoid relegation to the non league.

 

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