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So if we have another vote and it's 49% for out and 51% for stay, how is that fair?
Quote from: Sprotyrover on September 25, 2018, 05:11:57 pmSo if we have another vote and it's 49% for out and 51% for stay, how is that fair?Best of three?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on September 25, 2018, 12:52:19 amQuote from: wilts rover on September 24, 2018, 07:50:37 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on September 24, 2018, 06:51:10 pmIn the same way bst in labour you have a guy that thinks certain ira bombers to be knighted they could well be bombers that have killed peoples mums dads kids grandkids you have a moral duty to address that surley? But will you?I bet you were gutted when they signed the Good Friday Agreement. All those IRA murderers being let off. If only we had kept fighting and kept the population of Northern Ireland in fear of their lives and brought death and misery to dozens more innocent families including those of British soldiers. And dont you come at me with you don't know what you are talking about either - I have been 3 minutes away from a bomb going off.If members of the royal family can shake hands with prominent former IRA leaders - who are you to tell anyone what is and isn't moral?Still someone got shot by paramiliteries over the weekend so if your Brexit does go properly wrong you might get your way of bringing real chaos back to the country.Wilts. I agree with everything you say there. But if we're talking about people not wanting the GFA to be signed, there was, as you well know, a person who is now very prominent in national politics who said at the time that an Assembly was not what people had laid down their lives for, and that anything less than a United Ireland was unacceptable. I assume you agree with me that he was wrong. Because he was clearly advocating that the armed struggle should go on. And you're saying that it was right that the armed struggle ended then. Sorry Billy I am afraid I dont know who you are referring to? As it must be someone who has the same views as blackpool is it someone in the DUP?It is clearly not either Corbyn or McDonnell as they both spoke and campaigned for the GFA. McDonnell's speech to a republican meeting where he made the comments blackpool misquoted above were to persuade them to fully implement the GFA (so he said) and Corbyn said he hoped it would bring 'peace, hope and reconciliation in Ireland' when spoke for it in Parliament?I think you are getting mixed up with with the Thatcher's Anglo-Irish Agreement in 1985 which Corbyn (and others) did oppose. In which case you are Jacob Rees Mogg and I claim my top hat back!Agreed on everything else you said tho.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/18/john-mcdonnell-apologises-for-ira-comment-labourhttps://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-corbyn-on-northern-ireland
Quote from: wilts rover on September 24, 2018, 07:50:37 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on September 24, 2018, 06:51:10 pmIn the same way bst in labour you have a guy that thinks certain ira bombers to be knighted they could well be bombers that have killed peoples mums dads kids grandkids you have a moral duty to address that surley? But will you?I bet you were gutted when they signed the Good Friday Agreement. All those IRA murderers being let off. If only we had kept fighting and kept the population of Northern Ireland in fear of their lives and brought death and misery to dozens more innocent families including those of British soldiers. And dont you come at me with you don't know what you are talking about either - I have been 3 minutes away from a bomb going off.If members of the royal family can shake hands with prominent former IRA leaders - who are you to tell anyone what is and isn't moral?Still someone got shot by paramiliteries over the weekend so if your Brexit does go properly wrong you might get your way of bringing real chaos back to the country.Wilts. I agree with everything you say there. But if we're talking about people not wanting the GFA to be signed, there was, as you well know, a person who is now very prominent in national politics who said at the time that an Assembly was not what people had laid down their lives for, and that anything less than a United Ireland was unacceptable. I assume you agree with me that he was wrong. Because he was clearly advocating that the armed struggle should go on. And you're saying that it was right that the armed struggle ended then.
Quote from: bpoolrover on September 24, 2018, 06:51:10 pmIn the same way bst in labour you have a guy that thinks certain ira bombers to be knighted they could well be bombers that have killed peoples mums dads kids grandkids you have a moral duty to address that surley? But will you?I bet you were gutted when they signed the Good Friday Agreement. All those IRA murderers being let off. If only we had kept fighting and kept the population of Northern Ireland in fear of their lives and brought death and misery to dozens more innocent families including those of British soldiers. And dont you come at me with you don't know what you are talking about either - I have been 3 minutes away from a bomb going off.If members of the royal family can shake hands with prominent former IRA leaders - who are you to tell anyone what is and isn't moral?Still someone got shot by paramiliteries over the weekend so if your Brexit does go properly wrong you might get your way of bringing real chaos back to the country.
In the same way bst in labour you have a guy that thinks certain ira bombers to be knighted they could well be bombers that have killed peoples mums dads kids grandkids you have a moral duty to address that surley? But will you?
Quote from: wilts rover on September 25, 2018, 05:14:58 pmQuote from: Sprotyrover on September 25, 2018, 05:11:57 pmSo if we have another vote and it's 49% for out and 51% for stay, how is that fair?Best of three?Do we go on and on it's a nightmare.
Good luck to your daughter hoola,I'm sure they will come to a agreement that means she will be able to stay, you keep saying about the economy yet you vote labour, a nice woman at the conference called for a general strike would that be good for the economy? Would it stop you voting labour?
Quote from: bpoolrover on September 26, 2018, 09:02:33 amGood luck to your daughter hoola,I'm sure they will come to a agreement that means she will be able to stay, you keep saying about the economy yet you vote labour, a nice woman at the conference called for a general strike would that be good for the economy? Would it stop you voting labour?If you want to drag the conversation back to who/why you vote for then look no further than the brexit mess and austerity, both which have been condemned by experts and neither supported by experts. It is only the fact that the rich and powrful control the media that gets the CONservatives back into power.
Quote from: SydneyRover on September 26, 2018, 09:12:33 amQuote from: bpoolrover on September 26, 2018, 09:02:33 amGood luck to your daughter hoola,I'm sure they will come to a agreement that means she will be able to stay, you keep saying about the economy yet you vote labour, a nice woman at the conference called for a general strike would that be good for the economy? Would it stop you voting labour?If you want to drag the conversation back to who/why you vote for then look no further than the brexit mess and austerity, both which have been condemned by experts and neither supported by experts. It is only the fact that the rich and powrful control the media that gets the CONservatives back into power. Post deleted so I can't quote Bpool directly so this'll have to do! What has one Labour MPs views on a general strike got to do with the price of fish? Hoola writes an insightful post about how Brexit affects him personally and you start chuntering about Labour. If you can't answer any of his points and have to deflect that obviously, that's probably a good sign that maybe Brexit isn't what you thought it was.
Donnywolf let's say there was a second referendum and leave won again we would still be in the same place, do you think anyone would accept the result?
They might not have accepted it mate but I would have and I think most people who voted leave would have ,they certainly would not have demanded another referendum within a year or 2
Because which ever result happens we will be fine anyway, it won't make you ill(unless you worry to much) there are many countries not in the eu that are ok and we would be to
If they were to have a second vote and remain win so Be it while I think it would be unfair it is what it is, life is to short to worry what might be what could happen in ten years etc. Whatever the outcome in the end it will work out is has every other time
I deleted the post as there is no point going round in circles, your never going to change your opinion and I'm not mine