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Quote from: DonnyOsmond on September 26, 2021, 10:13:58 pmQuote from: drfchound on September 26, 2021, 10:05:42 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on September 26, 2021, 09:59:45 pmQuote from: selby on September 26, 2021, 08:17:30 pm What would be the reaction if a conservative MP called anyone scum? I would be interested to see the reaction on here.I feel like James Gray MP saying someone should plant a bomb in Anneliese Dodds office is far worse...But at least he has done the right thing and apologised.Really? He apologised to a newspaper when they asked him to make a comment, he didn't apologise to the person he was referring to and is only apologising as he got caught. He was hoping to get away with saying it in a private WhatsApp group and not being pulled up on it. Like I said proposing the murder of someone is worse than calling someone scum.Irrespective, he has apologised.
Quote from: drfchound on September 26, 2021, 10:05:42 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on September 26, 2021, 09:59:45 pmQuote from: selby on September 26, 2021, 08:17:30 pm What would be the reaction if a conservative MP called anyone scum? I would be interested to see the reaction on here.I feel like James Gray MP saying someone should plant a bomb in Anneliese Dodds office is far worse...But at least he has done the right thing and apologised.Really? He apologised to a newspaper when they asked him to make a comment, he didn't apologise to the person he was referring to and is only apologising as he got caught. He was hoping to get away with saying it in a private WhatsApp group and not being pulled up on it. Like I said proposing the murder of someone is worse than calling someone scum.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on September 26, 2021, 09:59:45 pmQuote from: selby on September 26, 2021, 08:17:30 pm What would be the reaction if a conservative MP called anyone scum? I would be interested to see the reaction on here.I feel like James Gray MP saying someone should plant a bomb in Anneliese Dodds office is far worse...But at least he has done the right thing and apologised.
Quote from: selby on September 26, 2021, 08:17:30 pm What would be the reaction if a conservative MP called anyone scum? I would be interested to see the reaction on here.I feel like James Gray MP saying someone should plant a bomb in Anneliese Dodds office is far worse...
What would be the reaction if a conservative MP called anyone scum? I would be interested to see the reaction on here.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on September 26, 2021, 03:38:48 pmBurnham's entire career has been WAY to the right of Starmer. What exactly DO you want? Just someone who speaks with a northern accent?What part of brought round with a leadership campaign aren't you understanding ?
Burnham's entire career has been WAY to the right of Starmer. What exactly DO you want? Just someone who speaks with a northern accent?
Burnham's entire career has been WAY to the right of Starmer. What exactly DO you want? Just someone who speaks with a northern accent?
Quote from: drfchound on September 26, 2021, 10:18:46 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on September 26, 2021, 10:13:58 pmQuote from: drfchound on September 26, 2021, 10:05:42 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on September 26, 2021, 09:59:45 pmQuote from: selby on September 26, 2021, 08:17:30 pm What would be the reaction if a conservative MP called anyone scum? I would be interested to see the reaction on here.I feel like James Gray MP saying someone should plant a bomb in Anneliese Dodds office is far worse...But at least he has done the right thing and apologised.Really? He apologised to a newspaper when they asked him to make a comment, he didn't apologise to the person he was referring to and is only apologising as he got caught. He was hoping to get away with saying it in a private WhatsApp group and not being pulled up on it. Like I said proposing the murder of someone is worse than calling someone scum.Irrespective, he has apologised.To a newspaper.......
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on September 26, 2021, 12:13:37 pmQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on September 26, 2021, 11:38:22 amHer passion and honesty are commendable, she says what she thinks.But, she wants to lead the party and country, does she think that kind of language is language that will enable her to meet those objectives? I'm not convinced they are.For me she makes some valid points but has a far too shouty aggressive attitude and like it or not that makes her sound stupid.The problem I have with her saying this is it bleeds in to the supporters and incites yet more division. Great for the tribal masses but as I said on a post yesterday, she doesn't need to attract filo or Sydney, she needs to attract people like me.I commend her passion and the fact she's made a solid career for herself despite leaving school early but it's just some of the language she uses will alienate some people and like you say is too aggressive. She isn't electable but she is a better candidate than Starmer, which says a lot. For me the best hope Labour have is Andy Burnham, he has the passion, he's composed and he has the leadership needed. What's your thoughts on Burnham as being someone who is more center/center-right?I could be brought round to Burnham but I would have to be brought round as I say .I'd be paying his leadership pitch with some attention to say the least .He'd have to improve his leadership campaign from his first leadership attempt because he was walloped by Corbyn along with the other Blairite Liz Kendal .His time as Mayor of Manchester and covid have increased his popularity no doubt .I was also impressed with his work with the Hillsborough families .I wouldn't dismiss him I'll say that .
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on September 26, 2021, 11:38:22 amHer passion and honesty are commendable, she says what she thinks.But, she wants to lead the party and country, does she think that kind of language is language that will enable her to meet those objectives? I'm not convinced they are.For me she makes some valid points but has a far too shouty aggressive attitude and like it or not that makes her sound stupid.The problem I have with her saying this is it bleeds in to the supporters and incites yet more division. Great for the tribal masses but as I said on a post yesterday, she doesn't need to attract filo or Sydney, she needs to attract people like me.I commend her passion and the fact she's made a solid career for herself despite leaving school early but it's just some of the language she uses will alienate some people and like you say is too aggressive. She isn't electable but she is a better candidate than Starmer, which says a lot. For me the best hope Labour have is Andy Burnham, he has the passion, he's composed and he has the leadership needed. What's your thoughts on Burnham as being someone who is more center/center-right?
Her passion and honesty are commendable, she says what she thinks.But, she wants to lead the party and country, does she think that kind of language is language that will enable her to meet those objectives? I'm not convinced they are.For me she makes some valid points but has a far too shouty aggressive attitude and like it or not that makes her sound stupid.The problem I have with her saying this is it bleeds in to the supporters and incites yet more division. Great for the tribal masses but as I said on a post yesterday, she doesn't need to attract filo or Sydney, she needs to attract people like me.
Aye Sydney your party can carry on calling others scum etc let's see how that works out for them.Your post again proves the problem the left continually have "ah but the Tories". Stop defining your own actions by saying what others do, be better than that.
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on September 27, 2021, 10:25:54 amAye Sydney your party can carry on calling others scum etc let's see how that works out for them.Your post again proves the problem the left continually have "ah but the Tories". Stop defining your own actions by saying what others do, be better than that.My party hmmmm, I don't think scum is anywhere near as offensive as cancelling school meals, threatening to take the £20 increase off UC, having 14million poor in the country and a 1200% iincrease in the numbers of food banks, I guess these things must have been done by your party?
Aye Sydney your party can carry on calling others scum etc let's see how that works out for them.Your post again proves the problem the left continually have "ah but the Tories". Stop defining your own actions by saying what others do, be better than that.
Quote from: SydneyRover on September 27, 2021, 10:33:29 amQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on September 27, 2021, 10:25:54 amAye Sydney your party can carry on calling others scum etc let's see how that works out for them.Your post again proves the problem the left continually have "ah but the Tories". Stop defining your own actions by saying what others do, be better than that.My party hmmmm, I don't think scum is anywhere near as offensive as cancelling school meals, threatening to take the £20 increase off UC, having 14million poor in the country and a 1200% iincrease in the numbers of food banks, I guess these things must have been done by your party?I don't have a party I'm a member of nothing but my own thoughts. It is possible to question all of them you know.My thoughts, don't increase UC fix the fundamental issues that mean people are on it and get them off it.Define poor...
Rayner pregnant at 16 and living off the generosity of the Tory Government, typical exponent of the Left wing ‘Woke’ mentality and Colonel Plum Starmer will not tolerate her potty mouthed behaviour, she will be leaving the Shadow Cabinet shortly!
Quote from: Sprotyrover on September 27, 2021, 10:37:42 amRayner pregnant at 16 and living off the generosity of the Tory Government, typical exponent of the Left wing ‘Woke’ mentality and Colonel Plum Starmer will not tolerate her potty mouthed behaviour, she will be leaving the Shadow Cabinet shortly!A little picky but she had the kid only weeks before Labours 1997 win. Can you also define this word "Woke" you're throwing around?
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on September 27, 2021, 11:51:02 amQuote from: Sprotyrover on September 27, 2021, 10:37:42 amRayner pregnant at 16 and living off the generosity of the Tory Government, typical exponent of the Left wing ‘Woke’ mentality and Colonel Plum Starmer will not tolerate her potty mouthed behaviour, she will be leaving the Shadow Cabinet shortly!A little picky but she had the kid only weeks before Labours 1997 win. Can you also define this word "Woke" you're throwing around?Plus she went back to college after having the bairn and then worked full-time. But don't let that impinge on your instinctive misogyny, eh Sproty?
Quote from: Sprotyrover on September 27, 2021, 10:37:42 amRayner pregnant at 16 and living off the generosity of the Tory Government, typical exponent of the Left wing ‘Woke’ mentality and Colonel Plum Starmer will not tolerate her potty mouthed behaviour, she will be leaving the Shadow Cabinet shortly!A little picky but she had the kid only weeks before Labours 1997 win. Can you also define this word "Woke" you're throwing around?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on September 27, 2021, 12:14:09 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on September 27, 2021, 11:51:02 amQuote from: Sprotyrover on September 27, 2021, 10:37:42 amRayner pregnant at 16 and living off the generosity of the Tory Government, typical exponent of the Left wing ‘Woke’ mentality and Colonel Plum Starmer will not tolerate her potty mouthed behaviour, she will be leaving the Shadow Cabinet shortly!A little picky but she had the kid only weeks before Labours 1997 win. Can you also define this word "Woke" you're throwing around?Plus she went back to college after having the bairn and then worked full-time. But don't let that impinge on your instinctive misogyny, eh Sproty?I would have a bit of respect if she had parented her child herself instead of chucking it at somebody else!
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on September 27, 2021, 11:51:02 amQuote from: Sprotyrover on September 27, 2021, 10:37:42 amRayner pregnant at 16 and living off the generosity of the Tory Government, typical exponent of the Left wing ‘Woke’ mentality and Colonel Plum Starmer will not tolerate her potty mouthed behaviour, she will be leaving the Shadow Cabinet shortly!A little picky but she had the kid only weeks before Labours 1997 win. Can you also define this word "Woke" you're throwing around?Plus she went back to college after having the bairn and then worked full-time. But don't let that impinge on your instinctive misogyny, eh Sproty?
Quote from: Sprotyrover on September 27, 2021, 10:37:42 amRayner pregnant at 16 and living off the generosity of the Tory Government, typical exponent of the Left wing ‘Woke’ mentality and Colonel Plum Starmer will not tolerate her potty mouthed behaviour, she will be leaving the Shadow Cabinet shortly!A little picky but she had the kid only weeks before Labours 1997 win. Can you also define this word "Woke" you're throwing around?
And do you think she would have any more respect for you than me Sproty because if you do I would bet you were kidding yourself. She wants power so she can tell you what to do with your money, like any good socialist, they are good socialists while someone else's money runs out. Like Emily Thornberry said today in answer to the question have your policies been costed, she replied we don't have to because we are not in power. So are they willing to promise anything that has no projected cost, that's good isn't it especially for the suckers paying the cost. Labour to a tee.
So Bernard Manning and Jim Davidson walked into a football forum...
Quote from: selby on September 27, 2021, 07:40:58 pm And do you think she would have any more respect for you than me Sproty because if you do I would bet you were kidding yourself. She wants power so she can tell you what to do with your money, like any good socialist, they are good socialists while someone else's money runs out. Like Emily Thornberry said today in answer to the question have your policies been costed, she replied we don't have to because we are not in power. So are they willing to promise anything that has no projected cost, that's good isn't it especially for the suckers paying the cost. Labour to a tee.Can't win! A few years ago they fully coated their manifesto then all the right wing press and Tories came out with the line "There's no magic money tree". Yet the Tories hadn't coated theirs at all!
Quote from: selby on September 27, 2021, 07:40:58 pm And do you think she would have any more respect for you than me Sproty because if you do I would bet you were kidding yourself. She wants power so she can tell you what to do with your money, like any good socialist, they are good socialists while someone else's money runs out. Like Emily Thornberry said today in answer to the question have your policies been costed, she replied we don't have to because we are not in power. So are they willing to promise anything that has no projected cost, that's good isn't it especially for the suckers paying the cost. Labour to a tee.She, selby doesn't even know you exist and probably doesn't give an ffJust a question were you a virgin at 16?
She wants power so she can tell you what to do with your money, like any good socialist, they are good socialists while someone else's money runs out. So are they willing to promise anything that has no projected cost, that's good isn't it especially for the suckers paying the cost.
Are you still a virgin, you come over on here like a schoolboy.
You think what you want, but don't over tax your brain cell, leave room for your next meal.