Dominic Cummings going going ..................

[albie]

BST,

I am NOT saying "his mission is complete and he is leaving on his terms"...at all!

My view is that he knew that his period of influence was time limited, and so worked on the basis of getting as much done, as quickly, as circumstances allow. You are right that it is incomplete, but I reckon it was always going to be.
It is about creating a benchmark for a post Boris renewal under Gove, in my view,

You say that he has lost a power struggle, but I think he was aware that he would need to prepare for his own exit. Because that exit has come earlier does not mean he was not prepared for it when it came.

I would not over focus on the melodrama, or the media optics.
The long game is about what happens down the road, and lets see how team Gove play the clusterf**k to derail Coco.

[ravenrover]

Pies, didn't Gove sack him?

[i_ateallthepies]

I don't know, ravenrover.  I was really just thinking out loud with my glass half-empty head on.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Gove was told to sack him by Cameron who called Cummings a "career psychopath". So at least Cameron got some judgements right.

[Donnywolf]

Apart from the one thing he HAD to get right

[Donnywolf]

Reply to ravenrovers point #61

I dont know either if Pies is right but it is poliyical expediancy

Cos after all Gove came out after backing Johnson to say he was simply not the man to be PM - and (surprise surprise) saying in his opinion HE Gove was the man for the job.

Out and out backstabbing (though he was proved right) - treachery of the highest order and yet Johnson still gve him a job

[belton rover]

‘For all his unpleasantness and his arrogance, at least Cummings had an intellectual vision of where the Govt should be leading the country.’

I agree with you Billy - let’s get him back!

‘Gove was told to sack him by Cameron who called Cummings a "career psychopath". So at least Cameron got some judgements right.’

I agree with you, Billy - don’t let that psychopath anywhere near the government!

[drfchound]

It was just a poke at those that don't read links wolfie, sorry to confuse

Good to know your post wasn’t aimed at me then.
I do read some of the links that are posted.
I suppose it was a WUM post really.

[SydneyRover]

I'd never aim anything at you hound knowing how sensitive you are.

[drfchound]

I'd never aim anything at you hound knowing how sensitive you are.

Mind the gap.

[SydneyRover]

It's so reassuring to know the country is in a good pair of hands

''The prime minister’s official spokesman insisted Johnson was not being distracted by the row and was “focused … on taking every possible step to get this country through the coronavirus pandemic”''

[SydneyRover]

It's hard to think of an appropriate comment for this

''Insiders said there was visible upset among the prime minister’s team as the fallout continued, with aides desperately ringing around to make sure there would not be further resignations. “This is bloody even by Westminster standards,” said one Whitehall figure. “It’s almost embarrassing. The person who suffers is the prime minister, who’s a good man trying to do very difficult things. This is a huge distraction.”''

[drfchound]

Have you got a link for that statement.

[Donnywolf]

I have - I just googled the first sentence and its here - in this right at the bottom. To read it I had to press Remind me later or similar

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/14/attacks-by-pms-ousted-aide-left-new-press-chief-in-tears

[SydneyRover]

thanks wolfie, I was going to suggest it was the missing link but I won't have to now

[Not Now Kato]

Well well well, maybe there's going to be some Karma after all....
 
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/04/durham-police-dominic-cummings-nazir-ifzal-dossier
 
Perverting the Course of Justice, if proven, is a very serious offence.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I suspect it will go the same way as the investigation into him building a house without planning permission, then failing to pay £30k of Council Tax on it.

Guilty as charged. Naughty boy. Don't do it again. Let's say no more about it. Case closed.

[Not Now Kato]

Ah, but now he doesn't have the protection of Bojo and his chums.

[StocktonRover]

Why not?
He's got the dirt on them

[Not Now Kato]

Why not?
He's got the dirt on them

Good point, well made. 

[i_ateallthepies]

Well well well, maybe there's going to be some Karma after all....
 
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/04/durham-police-dominic-cummings-nazir-ifzal-dossier
 
Perverting the Course of Justice, if proven, is a very serious offence.

It shows what we all knew to be true, that Durham police's decision was subject to outside influence, which surely in itself is a criminal offence.

[Filo]

Well well well, maybe there's going to be some Karma after all....
 
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/04/durham-police-dominic-cummings-nazir-ifzal-dossier
 
Perverting the Course of Justice, if proven, is a very serious offence.

It shows what we all knew to be true, that Durham police's decision was subject to outside influence, which surely in itself is a criminal offence.

That was my first thought, has Johnson leant on him

[Glyn_Wigley]

Well well well, maybe there's going to be some Karma after all....
 
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/04/durham-police-dominic-cummings-nazir-ifzal-dossier
 
Perverting the Course of Justice, if proven, is a very serious offence.

It shows what we all knew to be true, that Durham police's decision was subject to outside influence, which surely in itself is a criminal offence.

That was my first thought, has Johnson leant on him

I don't think you'd need to look any further than the 'non-bully' who happens to be Home Secretary and therefore has more direct influence on the police.

[Filo]

Well well well, maybe there's going to be some Karma after all....
 
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/04/durham-police-dominic-cummings-nazir-ifzal-dossier
 
Perverting the Course of Justice, if proven, is a very serious offence.

It shows what we all knew to be true, that Durham police's decision was subject to outside influence, which surely in itself is a criminal offence.

That was my first thought, has Johnson leant on him

I don't think you'd need to look any further than the 'non-bully' who happens to be Home Secretary and therefore has more direct influence on the police.

Good shout, maybe she unintentionally leant on him