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selby

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #60 on April 19, 2017, 03:10:22 pm by selby »
You do realise, that if we release anybody before their contract is up, we have to come to an agreement for the rest of their contract,or pay the contract up.
   Thats one way of wasting money in my mind,much better to coach them to be better players,after all the management  teams we have had signed them because they thought they were good players in the first place.
  Well I hope they did.



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ballysbackin

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #61 on April 19, 2017, 03:26:33 pm by ballysbackin »
Current contract situation:

Loans
24. Niall Mason (End of the Season)
25. Connor Grant (End of the Season)
2017
7. Gary McSheffrey
13. Marko Marosi
18. Paul Keegan
20. Aaron Taylor Sinclair
21. Joe Pugh
31. Joseph McCormick
2018
1. Ross Etheridge
2. Craig Alcock
5. Mathieu Baudry
6. Andy Butler
9. John Marquis
11. Andy Williams
15. Joe Wright
17. Matty Blair
26. James Coppinger
27. Cedric Evina
33. Louis Jones
-Tony Donaldson
2019
2. Mitchell Lund
3. Tyler Garratt
4. Luke McCullough
10. Tommy Rowe
14. Harry Middleton
19. Liam Mandeville
22. Will Longbottom
23. Alfie Beestin
29. Reece Fielding
38. Ian Lawlor
39. Alfie May


On the 2017 gang, I would certainly keep Marosi and Gary Mc. He is best one we have  that can deliver corners and free kicks

RedJ

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #62 on April 19, 2017, 04:37:40 pm by RedJ »
How on earth can you say to release Garrett? madness.

nortikorner

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #63 on April 19, 2017, 06:10:02 pm by nortikorner »
We must remember some of these players played in the first division last time and were found wanting

DonnyOsmond

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #64 on April 19, 2017, 06:36:16 pm by DonnyOsmond »
How on earth can you say to release Garrett? madness.

Because some of our fans don't know young players develop. If someone isn't good enough right now, get rid is their logic even though they're only 20.

IDM

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #65 on April 19, 2017, 07:52:15 pm by IDM »
We must remember some of these players played in the first division last time and were found wanting

We must also remember that bad form and low confidence can affect the performance of good players, and the same players can do much better in the same division when confident and in form...

drfchound

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #66 on April 19, 2017, 08:59:28 pm by drfchound »
Lots of our supporters forget that too IDM.

karldew

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #67 on April 19, 2017, 09:06:29 pm by karldew »
Remember how we were playing before we went on the bad run? We were on fire and played quality football!. Shows the current players can do it, we just can't fall into the pattern and mind set of losing again.

roversdude

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #68 on April 24, 2017, 10:14:15 am by roversdude »
Maybe the mindset is as important as footballing ability, maybe some of our players are lacking in this department - do we have a mentality coach ?

big fat yorkshire pudding

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #69 on April 24, 2017, 10:25:50 am by big fat yorkshire pudding »
A point for me based on the last 4 months Conor Grant has been pretty poor. Not sure I would take him now.

DonnyOsmond

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #70 on April 24, 2017, 10:45:20 am by DonnyOsmond »
A point for me based on the last 4 months Conor Grant has been pretty poor. Not sure I would take him now.

We've seen what he can do in League One though. If we can get that player back and at his age he'd be a massive asset.

nortikorner

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #71 on April 24, 2017, 02:28:06 pm by nortikorner »
2017
7. Gary McSheffrey               12 month contract
13. Marko Marosi
18. Paul Keegan                      release
20. Aaron Taylor Sinclair         release
21. Joe Pugh                         not seen him play
31. Joseph McCormick          not seen him play
2018
1. Ross Etheridge                     release
2. Craig Alcock                       12 month contracy
5. Mathieu Baudry
6. Andy Butler
9. John Marquis
11. Andy Williams
15. Joe Wright                        12 month contract
17. Matty Blair
26. James Coppinger
27. Cedric Evina                        release
33. Louis Jones                     not had time
-Tony Donaldson                  not see him play

Filo

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #72 on April 24, 2017, 02:45:25 pm by Filo »
2017
7. Gary McSheffrey               12 month contract
13. Marko Marosi
18. Paul Keegan                      release
20. Aaron Taylor Sinclair         release
21. Joe Pugh                         not seen him play
31. Joseph McCormick          not seen him play
2018
1. Ross Etheridge                     release
2. Craig Alcock                       12 month contracy
5. Mathieu Baudry
6. Andy Butler
9. John Marquis
11. Andy Williams
15. Joe Wright                        12 month contract
17. Matty Blair
26. James Coppinger
27. Cedric Evina                        release
33. Louis Jones                     not had time
-Tony Donaldson                  not see him play

Etherington and Evina are still in contract, you can not just release them

nortikorner

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #73 on April 24, 2017, 02:48:14 pm by nortikorner »
Sorry thought you could pay them up

roversontheup

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #74 on April 24, 2017, 03:11:08 pm by roversontheup »
Sorry thought you could pay them up

Only if they agree with the terms.

GazLaz

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #75 on April 24, 2017, 03:21:52 pm by GazLaz »
Sorry thought you could pay them up

Only if they agree with the terms.

You have to pay an agent to get them out.

Belle_Vue

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #76 on April 24, 2017, 03:24:18 pm by Belle_Vue »
Can offer them free transfers

drfchound

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #77 on April 24, 2017, 09:40:53 pm by drfchound »
If they don't want to go they have the right to stay and collect their money.
Whether it would do their longer term futures any good is another matter though so they would have to consider that.

Sammy Chung was King

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #78 on April 25, 2017, 01:20:27 am by Sammy Chung was King »
Current contract situation:

Loans
24. Niall Mason (End of the Season)
25. Connor Grant (End of the Season)
2017
7. Gary McSheffrey
13. Marko Marosi
18. Paul Keegan
20. Aaron Taylor Sinclair
21. Joe Pugh
31. Joseph McCormick
2018
1. Ross Etheridge
2. Craig Alcock
5. Mathieu Baudry
6. Andy Butler
9. John Marquis
11. Andy Williams
15. Joe Wright
17. Matty Blair
26. James Coppinger
27. Cedric Evina
33. Louis Jones
-Tony Donaldson
2019
2. Mitchell Lund
3. Tyler Garratt
4. Luke McCullough
10. Tommy Rowe
14. Harry Middleton
19. Liam Mandeville
22. Will Longbottom
23. Alfie Beestin
29. Reece Fielding
38. Ian Lawlor
39. Alfie May


On the 2017 gang, I would certainly keep Marosi and Gary Mc. He is best one we have  that can deliver corners and free kicks



Sorry if any of the players are by chance reading this i have respect for all the players there isn't a bad apple among them as far as i've ever heard so all deserve to be treated right but in football brutal decisions have to be made for the club to keep improving and also some need somewhere else where they will start games.

The one's i would let go on free transfers would be Pugh, Keegan, McCormick and Taylor-Sinclair as a fresh start would do him good. Etheridge,  Evina i would make available to transfer. Louis Jones i would get out on loan as i would Lund, Beestin, Donaldson, Fielding, Longbottom and Middleton all these young players need some regular football to prove they are good enough our team needs to be ready to start next season as good as possible and for me tried and tested starts next season. The young fellas need to go and show how good they are when playing regularly.

balbyrover

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #79 on April 25, 2017, 08:19:28 am by balbyrover »
Harry Middleton is 22 now. He should be pushing on good enough for the first team by now. If he isn't then he probably never will be good enough.

I'd let Evina,ATS and Etheridge leave permanently and I'd let a few of the young lads go on loan,  I'd also try sign Mason,Grant and Houghton on permanent deals.

DonnyOsmond

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #80 on April 25, 2017, 08:25:21 am by DonnyOsmond »
Why would people release Pugh?!

balbyrover

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #81 on April 25, 2017, 08:35:11 am by balbyrover »
Forgot about Keegan,I'd let him leave as well.  Been a good servant for us but we have had his best days.

Campsall rover

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #82 on April 25, 2017, 08:44:35 am by Campsall rover »
Why would people release Pugh?!
Because he is so far back in the pecking order. He will not get on the bench next season.

DonnyOsmond

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« Reply #83 on April 25, 2017, 10:48:46 am by DonnyOsmond »
Why would people release Pugh?!
Because he is so far back in the pecking order. He will not get on the bench next season.

Then loan him out so he can develop.

drfchound

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #84 on April 25, 2017, 02:15:35 pm by drfchound »
Forgot about Keegan,I'd let him leave as well.  Been a good servant for us but we have had his best days.




Keegan is out of contract in the summer and is looking to move on.
I could see him being a good signing for Lincoln.

Campsall rover

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Re: Retained List
« Reply #85 on April 25, 2017, 03:29:59 pm by Campsall rover »
Why would people release Pugh?!
Because he is so far back in the pecking order. He will not get on the bench next season.

Then loan him out so he can develop.
You can't keep players forever and keep sending them out on loan. There is a point where you have to make a decision on a players future.

DonnyOsmond

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« Reply #86 on April 25, 2017, 03:49:33 pm by DonnyOsmond »
Why would people release Pugh?!
Because he is so far back in the pecking order. He will not get on the bench next season.

Then loan him out so he can develop.
You can't keep players forever and keep sending them out on loan. There is a point where you have to make a decision on a players future.

He's only been a pro this year. You're making it sound like he's been on loan several times. At the moment he's been on loan for his first season in the professional game just like Mandeville was and he's played more games and scored more goals than Mandeville did. But yeah, release a player you've never seen play.

NickDRFC

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« Reply #87 on April 25, 2017, 04:08:04 pm by NickDRFC »
Is he a friend or relative of yours Donny O? Or is it just a case of Puppy Love ;)

I've no idea whether Pugh is any good or even how often he's playing - apart from the occasional Loan Watch update on here - but if he got released I don't think many fans would bat an eyelid. Likewise if he stays and goes on loan again I don't think there would be much of a response!

RedJ

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« Reply #88 on April 25, 2017, 05:19:11 pm by RedJ »
Why would people release Pugh?!
Because he is so far back in the pecking order. He will not get on the bench next season.

Then loan him out so he can develop.
You can't keep players forever and keep sending them out on loan. There is a point where you have to make a decision on a players future.

Coming from the same bloke who reckons we should get shut of Garrett already.

DonnyOsmond

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« Reply #89 on April 25, 2017, 05:26:06 pm by DonnyOsmond »
Is he a friend or relative of yours Donny O? Or is it just a case of Puppy Love ;)

I've no idea whether Pugh is any good or even how often he's playing - apart from the occasional Loan Watch update on here - but if he got released I don't think many fans would bat an eyelid. Likewise if he stays and goes on loan again I don't think there would be much of a response!

I just don't understand how any fan who has never seen him play can say he's not good enough. Fergie might decide that but I doubt any fan on here knows what he's like.

 

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