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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: normal rules on November 21, 2010, 10:18:00 pm
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Looks like being the small pub team that we are has opened the way for cheap entry for the visit to the walkers stadium.
Had not planned on going to this but at this price it's hard not to.
I suspect 999 initial allocation will get snapped up.
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IF it is £10 for adults for the game at Leicester, then surely those that have already bought tickets will be refunded?
I will be going to this match and if it is only going to cost me a tenner, then great news! Can we have clarification on prices please?
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I'm wondering what \"Local Promotion Only\" actually means,
If it means what I would think it means I could see them being in trouble
http://www.lcfc.com/page/BuyHomeTickets/0,,10274~1722924,00.html
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Dagenham.Rover wrote:
I'm wondering what \"Local Promotion Only\" actually means,
If it means what I would think it means I could see them being in trouble
http://www.lcfc.com/page/BuyHomeTickets/0,,10274~1722924,00.html
Yes its for home fans only im afraid, pity they dont take a leaf out of our book and do it for home and away, tight gits.
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Dagenham.Rover wrote:
I'm wondering what \"Local Promotion Only\" actually means,
If it means what I would think it means I could see them being in trouble
http://www.lcfc.com/page/BuyHomeTickets/0,,10274~1722924,00.html
Our Millwall fixture was a local promotion only
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who's in the home end?
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Just rang the Foxes TO.
Frosty it took them a lot longer to answer their phones than ours do.
Anyway, they are not offering it to DRFC and have no intention of offering it to us neither. I asked about buying tickets in their end, if I do it as 2 adults and 2 kids (trying the cordial family man approach) and they were very short with me and as good as told me to get off the phone your Northern Oik.
Your need your best Leicester accent on if you fancy their cheap tickets offer, or alternatively are there any LeicesterRovers on here?
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I presume it can be done then.
They obviously can't see beyond the end of their noses as well then.
Lets face it its an easy journey just down the motorway, surely it would be in their interest to get more of us down.
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Filo wrote:
Dagenham.Rover wrote:
I'm wondering what \"Local Promotion Only\" actually means,
If it means what I would think it means I could see them being in trouble
http://www.lcfc.com/page/BuyHomeTickets/0,,10274~1722924,00.html
Our Millwall fixture was a local promotion only
The Family ticket wasn't on offer to Millwall but it was \"only\" £15 adults £10 conc, £5 kids.
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Disgusting. It really is. Lets bombard their ticket office.
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Each club are allowed 4 \"local\" promotions a season by the FL in a bid to improve the home support. As has been said, we did the family ticket for the Wall game, but they never got that offer.
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When we play them lets do the same,make it catA and for us make it a tenner.EASY.
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RobTheRover wrote:
Each club are allowed 4 \"local\" promotions a season by the FL in a bid to improve the home support. As has been said, we did the family ticket for the Wall game, but they never got that offer.
Yes but general prices were reduced as someone else stated,
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CusworthRovers wrote:
Just rang the Foxes TO.
Frosty it took them a lot longer to answer their phones than ours do.
Anyway, they are not offering it to DRFC and have no intention of offering it to us neither. I asked about buying tickets in their end, if I do it as 2 adults and 2 kids (trying the cordial family man approach) and they were very short with me and as good as told me to get off the phone your Northern Oik.
Your need your best Leicester accent on if you fancy their cheap tickets offer, or alternatively are there any LeicesterRovers on here?
A Leicester accent isn't that easy to do- although if you say \"oooz\" instead of \"uez\" (Toooz-day not Tuesday) than that's a start.
Melanie Safka's cover of the Stones' \"Ruby Tuesday\" make me think she might have originated in Leicester rather than NYC.
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Dagenham.Rover wrote:
RobTheRover wrote:
Each club are allowed 4 \"local\" promotions a season by the FL in a bid to improve the home support. As has been said, we did the family ticket for the Wall game, but they never got that offer.
Yes but general prices were reduced as someone else stated,
they weren't reduced, it was simply a category 3 game.
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At the end of the day sorry but I am not going to pay £26 when all the home fans are paying a tenner its a rippoff
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Unfortunately is all legal & above board.....As Rob says, each club can have 4 'local promotions'....just as we did for the Millwall game.
So Leicester can offer a special deal just for home fans only....sad but true.
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Gartom wrote:
Unfortunately is all legal & above board.....As Rob says, each club can have 4 'local promotions'....just as we did for the Millwall game.
So Leicester can offer a special deal just for home fans only....sad but true.
However we made the game a cat c so prices came down accordingly.
Legal and above board it may be but its profiteering shows exactly whats wrong with some of these clubs
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Derby v Rovers looks like being £31 to me, £3 more on the day.
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Surely this issue can be addressed a phone call from jr or maybe gar tom. They would easily double the amount of rovers supporters there if they offered us this deal. As it stands it will be the die hard few who have got plenty of disposable income who go only.
7 of us in links who would go but I am not paying full whack when home supporters are getting in for less than half sorry.
There is the home end of course.........
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I wonder what fixtures if any Leicester are making concessions for, for home as well as away supporters this season.
Someone from rovers needs to tell them that we are more than capable of taking a full allocation to this game if the price is right and getting the full house they are seeking. Perhaps they think they will fill the ground without away supporters.
It's the season of good will and all that. What they will end up with is small pockets of rovers in the home end, and 500 at best paying full price to sit in the corner.
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Now you know why certain fans have been staying away from the Keepmoat.
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Please explain??
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The expense of CAT 1 games.
I was looking forward to a Boxing day game at Derby but having looked at their prices, not on your nelly !!
Advance tickets
Adult £31
Conc and youth £18.50
Juvenile £13.50
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I've not been to Leicester and I want to go to the game, but I'm thinking of not bothering in principle to be honest.
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20 quid at st James park last season, it's only Leicester for gods sake why so expensive. Their best crowd ofnthe season against derby was 6 thou short of a full house so I can't see this being a sell out. They have a real opportunity here to get a lot more away supporters in.
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I was also looking forward to Derby on boxing, im not paying that. Its getting stupid.
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My first away game of the season now i feel ripped off.If i was not taking my son i would go in the home end as a protest.With their pricing policy i would figure we will have understandably a poor following ,feeling more ripped off.
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Seriously thinking of pulling out of the Foxes game too and as for the Rams game now that is a 'no-no' too. I'm gutted. £31 on Boxing day, doesn't sound like they want us there at all.........season of goodwill my arse. :(
Animals the lot of them! ;)
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big fat yorkshire pudding wrote:
I've not been to Leicester and I want to go to the game, but I'm thinking of not bothering in principle to be honest.
This. only im not thinking about it, im just flat out not going.
Truthfully i'm being choosey with my away matches this year anyway as me and the missus are saving for a house/wedding but if the prices were a tenner i'd definitely go.
also, that derby price is a joke, how much was it last year? don't remember it being anywhere close to that.
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The cost of fame, eh?
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I think prices for football should be set,for example.
Premiership - 25 pounds cat a
Championship - 18 pounds cat a
Leauge 1 - 15 pounds cat a
Leauge 2 - 12 pound cat a
Conforence - 6 pound cat a
Prices like this would get loads more through the turnstiles,i understand it will never happen but this is what football prices SHOULD be like. :dry:
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who_are_ya wrote:
I think prices for football should be set,for example.
Premiership - 25 pounds cat a
Championship - 18 pounds cat a
Leauge 1 - 15 pounds cat a
Leauge 2 - 12 pound cat a
Conforence - 6 pound cat a
Prices like this would get loads more through the turnstiles,i understand it will never happen but this is what football prices SHOULD be like. :dry:
You've got no chance with that. I went to Stalybridge v Gainsboro earlier this season and it was a tenner and that's several levels down... even AFC Goole was £6 and that was four years ago in the Mickey Mouse Tin Pot Pub League!
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Rigoglioso wrote:
Superspy wrote:
also, that derby price is a joke, how much was it last year? don't remember it being anywhere close to that.
First year in the Championship was £22, last year was £27 (I think) and this year may be more.
Rather than Derby upping their prices, all this one is, is a case of them upgrading us in their match categories, meaning we're now classed alongside the likes of Leeds & Sheffield United and pay the same as their fans do, when we visit Pride Park.
its £31 this year i think.
well at least its only a category change and not a price hike per say, which isn't so bad, but £31 for championship football is still a joke.
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Just spoke to a mate of mine and for Season ticket holders to purchase extra tickets it is £6.
Home end at the Walkers then!
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ctay wrote:
Just spoke to a mate of mine and for Season ticket holders to purchase extra tickets it is £6.
Home end at the Walkers then!
Smart Thinking
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Derby have already announced prices for the game. Adult tickets range from £31 to £36 if bought in advance. £3 extra if bought on the day.
Sheffield United- not sure if ours will be a Cat A or Cat B game, although probably the former. If it is, adult tickets range from £30 to £34.
Looks like being a very expensive festive period. :(
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It won't be an expensive festive period - there will just be games that are poorly attended!
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Thing is it won't make too much difference to these clubs as they have a much higher ratio of ST holders etc.
Again more fuel for us to get ST and other advance tickets better priced.
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I'll go if I can get a ticket in the home end, any chance of managing that?
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The FSF have emailed me the following - which requires action by Rovers fans. The more that email, the more chance we will have.
The FSF fully Supporters the use of COMMUNITY DAYS as a way of reducing Prices for particular games and applauds them for doing this
Our only Complaint against these is where clubs “DO NOT OFFER” these discounts to Away Supporters. We cannot understand why clubs would treat what are in effect their guests for the day in this way.
We have looked at various ways over the years to challenge the concept of not passing on the discount. We believe we may have come up with an answer to this problem and it is using the Football Leagues own Policy against their own rules, as outlined below.
We have just achieved a BIG Success using this argument against Huddersfield Town this Tuesday. They were intending to not pass on the discounts at their game against MK Dons. We submitted a similar argument to the one below and attached to this e-mail. Within a matter of Hours they changed their policy.[/colour]More info about this success can be found at http://www.fsf.org.uk/news/milton-keynes-dons-fans-ticket-refund.php
The FSF would like you to follow the same argument and send this Letter/Document to Leicester City and see what they say. Would you be prepared to do this and let us have copies of the correspondence?
LETTER
Having made contact with the Football Supporters’ Federation,www.fsf.org.uk, I appreciate your comments about the Football League rules currently allow for these “Community Days Promotions”. We believe that this rule BREAKS the Football Leagues own Policy on Discrimination as listed below.
Rules should reflect the Current Policy of any organisation. As this one obviously doesn’t follow that guideline, We will be taking this up with the Football league
Football League Anti Discrimination Policy
The Football League seeks to ensure that spectators, players, officials and others involved at football matches and in football generally should be protected from discrimination, including that on the grounds of age, Race or Ethnic Origin, Religious Belief, Sexual Orientation, Disability, Gender or any other unjustifiable reason.
The Football League promotes inclusion and is committed to working with partner agencies to provide education and information to promote inclusion.
The Football League has procedures to deal with any incidents of prejudice ensuring that those who believe they have been abused or treated unfairly can raise their issue through the channels explained in this charter.
If any complaint of this nature is received The Football League will investigate if appropriate with assistance from other football and statutory agencies and make recommendations or change procedures as necessary.
One widely held definition of Ethnic Origin is “Ethnicity is defined from the recognition by others as a distinct group and by common Cultural, Linguistic, Religious, Behavioural or Biological traits”. Hence any group of Supporters could be classified by that definition as a distinct cultural group from other supporters groups, hence they could be classed as an Ethnic group and therefore the Football Leagues Anti Discrimination policy would apply.
The Same is true of Charging Supporters a Different price based on where they come from is also in breach of the “any other unjustifiable reason” part of the Football Leagues Anti Discrimination policy.
On a Final Point Doncaster Rovers did a similar promotion for our recent game against Swansea City. Unlike Leicester though they offered the same promotion to Swansea City supporters and made them feel welcome and valuable to the game at the Keepmoat.
In view of the above facts, could you please reconsider your decision not to pass of the Discounts to Doncaster Rovers Supporters’ that are available to Leicester City Supporters for our game on Saturday 11th December 2010?
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Sounds good to me. Anybody know the Leicester City e-mail address to use?
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tickets@lcfc.co.uk
and ask them to forward it to Lee Hoos Chief Executive
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Done :)
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Done!
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Done. See below. We all need to do this and get some parity here. This is not only a matter of principle for Rovers fans, but fans of all football clubs.
Hi there, please could you forward this to your Chief Exec.
I have read that you are introducing a Community match discount v Doncaster Rovers on Saturday 11th December 2010. Prices are effectively £10. I have phoned your ticket office politely and asked if this offer will be extended to away fans, to which I was told NO.
I would like to attend this match with my brother in law and 3 children, a total cost of £77. However I refuse to pay this, especially as the home fans will pay considerably less. I do feel we are being discriminated against and feel it totally unjust.
I feel your club would be seen in a good light to offer this excellent community discount to the away fans also. Please also bear in mind the current economic situation and that we are in a very costly festive season, both in terms of home life and watching football.
As said, I do feel this is most unjust and I repeat 5 Doncaster fans will not be going to this game due to the current away pricing situation. 5 fans will not be buying 2 matchday magazines and will not be buying refreshments from your stadium.
I look forward to your response
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Do we have the FSF email address for any potential replies to be forwarded to or is someone on here co ordinating the replies?
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Filo wrote:
Do we have the FSF email address for any potential replies to be forwarded to or is someone on here co ordinating the replies?
Silent Majority is the local representative it would be interesting to get his input. I will PM him and text him.
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Vote with your feet and do not attend. Attend a local match instead and give much needed revenue to one of your local non league sides. I will be doing this for the Leicester game and intend to do it for the Derby match too. £31 (£34 on the day) is ridiculous for a football match at this level. They obviously need to charge these prices to pay the stupid wages they have their players on.
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All,
We (the FSF) would appreciate it if nobody else sent the letter out to Leicester. We have instigated a process that we hope will work as has been shown in recent weeks. Because its the weekend we don't expect anything to happen so if you all hang fire we can let you know what to do next.
We are in discussion with Leicester and it may be a good idea to let them back down in private, if we publicise it too much they may dig their heels in.
The e-mail address to use to coordinate responses is the ticketing rep for the FSF who is alan.bloore@fsf.org.uk
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Sorry my e-mail went off yesterday.
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hoolahoop wrote:
Sorry my e-mail went off yesterday.
No need to apologise Hoola, just a bit of mis-communication.
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Phew I just hope they will see the sense in us taking twice as many supporters down...........it just doesn't make sense economically, morally or spiritually.
The beauty of football for real fans, is the duel between teams on the pitch and the banter between rival fans off the pitch.
Why oh why do people not see that they are gradually taking away exactly what makes the /a game so interesting for supporters. Excessive stewarding/policing and pricing structures are killing the game as emphatically as an elephant stomping on an ant.
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I was thinking about a trip to the Derby game but won't bother. QPR is similar if buying on the day. Its a disgrace whats being charged in a lot of grounds. I think a lot of fans will begrudgingly still pay over £20 but over £30? Disgrace. :angry:
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i think that what leicester do is up to them,we would be up in arms if they were telling us what to do with our prices,wouldnt we? simple thing is that if you think its too much,and everybody has a different view of what is too much for them personally,then dont go.regarding going in their end,surely nobody would even consider going in their end after the views that were expressed on here regarding leeds fans in our seats earlier this season :unsure:
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irelandsonthewing wrote:
i think that what leicester do is up to them,we would be up in arms if they were telling us what to do with our prices,wouldnt we? simple thing is that if you think its too much,and everybody has a different view of what is too much for them personally,then dont go.regarding going in their end,surely nobody would even consider going in their end after the views that were expressed on here regarding leeds fans in our seats earlier this season :unsure:
Agree with you regarding contacting Leicester. Don't think we need to beg them to drop their prices. They need to look at their own morals, as do we if we are running 'home-only' prices. Regarding the prices, not sure I'll bother going to any games over £30 anymore, just out of principal. Its just too much, as is £20 plus for some Rovers fans.
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hoolahoop wrote:
Phew I just hope they will see the sense in us taking twice as many supporters down...........it just doesn't make sense economically, morally or spiritually.
The beauty of football for real fans, is the duel between teams on the pitch and the banter between rival fans off the pitch.
Why oh why do people not see that they are gradually taking away exactly what makes the /a game so interesting for supporters. Excessive stewarding/policing and pricing structures are killing the game as emphatically as an elephant stomping on an ant.
I hope they do, although we have had quite a few issues with Leicester City this season and have spent some time trying to mediate with them.
We(FSF)have been campaigning for some time over unfair pricing which is slowly killing the game off at all levels. We need to get rid of categorisation first and foremost and then move onto more realistic pricing for all supporters to ensure the future health of our national sport.
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Any progess with leicester?.
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Wanted to get this back up the list on the forum - anyone any news?
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Good call. Another plus/advert for this site. I've kept my eye on this thread and suspect I will hear any news here first. I'm standing my decision that 5 of us will not be going unless we get some community discount. It's killing me, true, even more so with today's game postponed, but we will not be going
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Has anybody that emailed them had the courtesy of a reply?
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I emailed politely ... and no - no response
most courteous of them
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Well ive bought a few tickets in the home end. Will celebrate any rovers goal and will argue the toss to anyone whose to blame if anyone gets upset.their policy is fifaresque.
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1. Did you get somebody to buy them for you?....or did it all by yourself. The trouble is I will have a 01302 dialling code and a Donny accent......unless I
2. I too have emailed the club and just as The Beatles predicted....No Reply
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Dagenham.Rover wrote:
Has anybody that emailed them had the courtesy of a reply?
I emailed and I have had no reply either
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No reply.....
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CusworthRovers wrote:
1. Did you get somebody to buy them for you?....or did it all by yourself. The trouble is I will have a 01302 dialling code and a Donny accent......unless I
2. I too have emailed the club and just as The Beatles predicted....No Reply
Return to your familiy`s cave in Thorne and speak in your native tongue, with a bit of luck they`ll understand what you want amongst all those grunts and snorts and a different dialling code as well :laugh: :laugh:
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no me neither - do you think that so many of us have emailed that it might have sent their server down, hmmmm......
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http://www.fsf.org.uk/news/milton-keynes-dons-fans-ticket-refund.php?id=.
Milton Keynes Dons fans who made the journey north for their team’s Tuesday night League One game against Huddersfield Town have been given a £14 refund thanks to the work of MK Dons Supporters’ Association (MKDSA) and the FSF.
Is it worth contacting the FSF
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Fanatical Rover wrote:
http://www.fsf.org.uk/news/milton-keynes-dons-fans-ticket-refund.php?id=.
Milton Keynes Dons fans who made the journey north for their team’s Tuesday night League One game against Huddersfield Town have been given a £14 refund thanks to the work of MK Dons Supporters’ Association (MKDSA) and the FSF.
Is it worth contacting the FSF
See earlier in the thread they are on the case.
However interesting to see it appears nobody's had the courtesy of any sort of reply from Leicester not even a \"Up Yours\"
Although the lack of replies say \"Up Yours\"
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Don't lose the faith just yet, we (FSF) were all at a National Council meeting today and this item was on the agenda and was discussed. I'll report as soon as I can.
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silent_majority wrote:
Don't lose the faith just yet, we (FSF) were all at a National Council meeting today and this item was on the agenda and was discussed. I'll report as soon as I can.
Time's running out though silent m., hate to hurry you as I know you are doing your level best.
Incidentally no e-mail response here either. :(
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silent_majority wrote:
Don't lose the faith just yet, we (FSF) were all at a National Council meeting today and this item was on the agenda and was discussed. I'll report as soon as I can.
Very encouraging and reassuring SM. It's folks like you lot that deserve a great deal of praise and thanks
Cheers and if you pull it off you can have a pint on me
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I will be in the home end. A friend has got me a couple of tickets, £6 each bargain!
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According to Sheffield United website our game is \"Cat B\" which means £25 Adults.
Huddersfield made the decision on the MK Dons refund on the day of the game, so Leicester still have plenty of time to do the right thing.
Also, i think for the league game at Derby last season we paid £24 and now for Boxing Day they're asking £31 !!!
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I know it's only Monday night but I cannot see Leicester reneging on their crap pricing for this game. What a shame, I personally know 11 who would have gone had it not been for the stupid price difference for away fans. Sitting in the home end is not an option. Sat with forest fans last season when they hammered us at the city ground and that was bad enough.
There is always the possibility that Leicester will offer refunds after the event but the damage will have been done. Don't know how many tickets we have sold but I bet at 10 quid each we could have easily had 1500 to 2000 there even this close to Xmas.
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Just checked 564. Pitiful and I expected nothing less. Well done to those committed few who go irrespective of price.
It could and should be a lot lot more.
Shame on you Leicester.
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Well its not over yet, however, without giving all the detail I can say that its looking unlikely for the following reasons;
There has been a complete change of management inside Leicester City this week with Mandaric stepping down and the new owners moving in
They are convinced that they are playing by the FL rules although we have pointed out they are contravening policy (in our opinion)
They see our ticket sales as being very poor and cutting the price won't change much (they miss the obvious here!)
We have now to escalate the complaint to the FL, this takes time! Also this has never been done before on the discrimination issue.
However, they did agree to look at this again this afternoon, and the Foxes Trust have said they will raise it in their meeting with the club on Thursday (well done to them!)
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Also maybe worth pointing out the number of people that have said they are going in the home end for the afternoon.
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silent_majority wrote:
There has been a complete change of management inside Leicester City this week with Mandaric stepping down and the new owners moving in
Fair enough I can see some turmoil because of this, but neither old nor new can obviously see a hand in front of their face
They are convinced that they are playing by the FL rules although we have pointed out they are contravening policy
Discrimination of any sort is against the law of the land which would come above FL policy anyway, home/away black/white able/disabled etc etc
They see our ticket sales as being very poor and cutting the price won't change much (they miss the obvious here!)
As stated pretty obvious why sales are so poor.
Leicester's only an hour and half away or so (yes xmas comes into play as well but 30 quid just before xmas as opposed to say £15 well .......) Oh and half the away fans are in the home end :blink:
We have now to escalate the complaint to the FL, this takes time! Also this has never been done before on the discrimination issue.
Get on with it
However, they did agree to look at this again this afternoon, and the Foxes Trust have said they will raise it in their meeting with the club on Thursday (well done to them!)
Perhaps most of their fans are on the same planet as everybody else unlike the policymakers at Leicester
Rovers player here I come :) :blink:
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The annoying thing is, were they to say black people pay £26, white £10 they wouldn't get away with it, same on race, sexuality or gender, so why because of the football team you support? Very bizarre.
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Just to be clear, this is the FL Policy which we believe is being contravened, and as with all FL clubs, Leicester have to agree to;
ANTI-DISCRIMINATION POLICY
The Football League seeks to ensure that spectators, players, officials and others involved at football matches and in football generally should be protected from discrimination, including that on the grounds of age, race or ethnic origin, religious belief, sexual orientation, disability, gender or any other unjustifiable reason.
Lets not forget though, this is happening all the time at most football league clubs up and down the country and we have been complicit in this also. What other reason would you have for categorisation of games? Surely this breaches the above policy too?
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I realise you are saying football league policies are being contravened and thats whats being worked on, but also the law of the land is surely being contravened
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Dagenham.Rover wrote:
I realise you are saying football league policies are being contravened and thats whats being worked on, but also the law of the land is surely being contravened
No, the FL policy goes further than the law of the land.
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silent_majority wrote:
ANTI-DISCRIMINATION POLICY
The Football League seeks to ensure that spectators, players, officials and others involved at football matches and in football generally should be protected from discrimination, including that on the grounds of age.
So, if I followed this policy to the letter, does this mean I am also entitled to demand my ticket for the same price as an Under 8? :P
Prices
£26 Adults
£22 Seniors 60+
£16 Under 22's (18-21yrs)
£10 Under 18's (12-17yrs)
£5 Under 12's (8-11yrs)
£3 Under 8's
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I'm no lawyer SM but perhaps this might help
Equality Act provisions which came into force on 1 October 2010
•The basic framework of protection against direct and indirect discrimination, harassment and victimisation in services and public functions; premises; work; education; associations, and transport.
http://www.equalities.gov.uk/equality_bill.aspx
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Home end for 4 of us if they don't come up with the goods.
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Snods Shinpad 2 wrote:
silent_majority wrote:
ANTI-DISCRIMINATION POLICY
The Football League seeks to ensure that spectators, players, officials and others involved at football matches and in football generally should be protected from discrimination, including that on the grounds of age.
So, if I followed this policy to the letter, does this mean I am also entitled to demand my ticket for the same price as an Under 8? :P
Prices
£26 Adults
£22 Seniors 60+
£16 Under 22's (18-21yrs)
£10 Under 18's (12-17yrs)
£5 Under 12's (8-11yrs)
£3 Under 8's
technically yes, but then they could just say \"ok, under 8s now pay £26\"....
its the same old argument with insurance companies charging women less for car insurance, it went to court once and the insurance company argued that by NOT separating people by age/gender it wouldnt bring costs down, it would make the whole thing more expensive for everybody.....the insurance company won.
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We're not talking about a slight difference here though are we ?
The supporters of DRFC are being asked to pay 3 times as much for the luxury of sitting in this bloody stadium.
Ok I accept , it's my choice to pay the £26 but the difference is huge and immoral. The potential for trouble in the home ends is surely not worth the risk of fleecing many of our supporters to heavily subsidise their supporters.
This can't be right whether they do it , we do it or any other fooker does it!!!!!
Am I missing summat here or does the FL work in much the same way as FIFA ?
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I'm really struggling here boys. I'm going stir crazy. The postponed Barnsley game has merely served to make my feelings 10 fold worse......I'm still without tickets on a massive principle and moral journey by me. I'm weak boys, I think...I think....I think I'm going to buy some tickets..........arrrrgghhh
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CusworthRovers wrote:
I'm really struggling here boys. I'm going stir crazy. The postponed Barnsley game has merely served to make my feelings 10 fold worse......I'm still without tickets on a massive principle and moral journey by me. I'm weak boys, I think...I think....I think I'm going to buy some tickets..........arrrrgghhh
Me too but I will wait until the last minute.......just in case
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5 of us have tickets in the home end. Should be fun!.
We've sold 570 according to the KMS site, although that was updated last week.
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CusworthRovers wrote:
I'm really struggling here boys. I'm going stir crazy. The postponed Barnsley game has merely served to make my feelings 10 fold worse......I'm still without tickets on a massive principle and moral journey by me. I'm weak boys, I think...I think....I think I'm going to buy some tickets..........arrrrgghhh
I know how you are feeling Cussie , that's one of the reasons I'm going. Come on join our merry band of warriors, morals or a lack of watching the Rovers ? It's a hard decision and I'm sure you will come to the wrong decision for the right reasons........see you there. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Rang the T/O at 12-05pm today and was topld we have over 300 tickets left. Can't make my mind up whether or not to pay £22-00 (Senior) ticket price, or think \"knackers to it, I'm not being taken advantage of if they can't offer me a reduced rate as their supporters are\". Will see what develops nearer the time.
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I'm not going on principle although it's killing me to do so.
Rover's Player will be loud and proud in my home Saturday unless they change their policy.
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For all those who will be paying full price on Saturday make sure you keep your tickets. Talks are ongoing with the FL at the moment, but it may take a while.
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Instead of the FL investigating individual cases they could issue an across the board statement telling all clubs that ripping off away fans will not be tolerated, and the punishments will be financially severe!
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Hi I sent an email to the Leiceester City Ticke Office asking it to be forward to the Chief Executive Lee Hoos and got the following back
\"Thank you for writing to Leicester City Fanzone.
Whilst I can appreciate your frustration over the pricing for the Doncaster Rovers Fixture, Leicester City consulted with the Football League before making their decision and have followed their rules regarding local promotions.
If you are unhappy with the decision, I would suggest writing to the Customer Services Department at the Football League for further guidance.
We wish you and your club every success for the future\".
Kind Regards,
Tom Bettles
On Behalf of Fanzone
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Filo wrote:
Instead of the FL investigating individual cases they could issue an across the board statement telling all clubs that ripping off away fans will not be tolerated, and the punishments will be financially severe!
If only life was that simple! The problem is Leicester are following FL rules on match day promotions. We are trying to change the rules which are consistent with their policy. The rules are being adhered to but not our interpretation of the policy. These things are never easy.
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Fanatical Rover wrote:
Hi I sent an email to the Leiceester City Ticke Office asking it to be forward to the Chief Executive Lee Hoos and got the following back
\"Thank you for writing to Leicester City Fanzone.
Whilst I can appreciate your frustration over the pricing for the Doncaster Rovers Fixture, Leicester City consulted with the Football League before making their decision and have followed their rules regarding local promotions.
If you are unhappy with the decision, I would suggest writing to the Customer Services Department at the Football League for further guidance.
We wish you and your club every success for the future\".
Kind Regards,
Tom Bettles
On Behalf of Fanzone
Ditto :angry:
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Rovers Return wrote:
Fanatical Rover wrote:
Hi I sent an email to the Leiceester City Ticke Office asking it to be forward to the Chief Executive Lee Hoos and got the following back
\"Thank you for writing to Leicester City Fanzone.
Whilst I can appreciate your frustration over the pricing for the Doncaster Rovers Fixture, Leicester City consulted with the Football League before making their decision and have followed their rules regarding local promotions.
If you are unhappy with the decision, I would suggest writing to the Customer Services Department at the Football League for further guidance.
We wish you and your club every success for the future\".
Kind Regards,
Tom Bettles
On Behalf of Fanzone
Ditto :angry:
Also Ditto! it looks like a bog standard up yours to me! :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
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Fao Silent Majority.
Did you see my earlier post re the new parts of the Equality Acts This would suggest that the FL policy could be against the law
Equality Act provisions which came into force on 1 October 2010•
The basic framework of protection against direct and indirect discrimination, harassment and victimisation in services and public functions; premises; work; education; associations, and transport.
www.equalities.gov.uk/equality_bill.aspx
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Dear Mr Bettles,
Many thanks for your reply although it was disappointing to receive.
I understand that your interpretation of the rules but morally you are incorrect and it is another nail in the coffin of promoting football in a positive light. You have missed a fantastic opportunity to show your club in a good light and create a real atmosphere with what would have been a large away following. Alas, a lot of our fans have resisted buying tickets until your decision. Most are not going to bother, unlike myself who will be sat in your home end along with a few hundred other Doncaster fans. We are your guests on Saturday but are not being made welcome and are being treated shabbily. Should your season take an upturn by the time the return fixture comes around I find myself hoping that Doncaster Rovers returns the gesture. The revenue generated by 3,500 Leicester fans will certainly help to subsidise cheaper home tickets.
Regards,
Just replied. I find myself wanting the Rovers to return the gesture. :angry:
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Could somebody be watching this thread as people suddenly seem to be getting standard bullsh1t letters
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Dagenham.Rover wrote:
Could somebody be watching this thread as people suddenly seem to be getting standard bullsh1t letters
People are suddenly getting bullshit letters because we have complained to Leicester and the FL that the Leicester City Charter states all correspondence will be acknowledged within 48 hours, we pointed out that this wasn't happening.
I also noted your comment earlier about the Equalities act. Unfortunately this kind of thing goes to court and sooner or later costs a great deal of money in legal fees. That creates a problem, we are essentially a volunteer organisation without the necessary funds to sponsor every annoyance that comes our way, we have to pick and choose. We do have a good legal team and they will provide us with a lot of free advice but if you want to take on the establishment, i.e. the Police, you have to have deep pockets or good sponsors.
This one is much easier to deal with directly with Leicester and the FL because we can be successful without seeking legal redress.
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Rovers Return wrote:
Dear Mr Bettles,
Many thanks for your reply although it was disappointing to receive.
I understand that your interpretation of the rules but morally you are incorrect and it is another nail in the coffin of promoting football in a positive light. You have missed a fantastic opportunity to show your club in a good light and create a real atmosphere with what would have been a large away following. Alas, a lot of our fans have resisted buying tickets until your decision. Most are not going to bother, unlike myself who will be sat in your home end along with a few hundred other Doncaster fans. We are your guests on Saturday but are not being made welcome and are being treated shabbily. Should your season take an upturn by the time the return fixture comes around I find myself hoping that Doncaster Rovers returns the gesture. The revenue generated by 3,500 Leicester fans will certainly help to subsidise cheaper home tickets.
Regards,
Anthony O’Hara
Just replied. I find myself wanting the Rovers to return the gesture. :angry:
So when we get questioned on Saturday as we enter the home end I know who to blame! ;)
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Point taken SM, I do understand but it could just be worthwhile gently pointing out to them that whilst we are all trying to work together there is the possibillity that some of the policys could be illegal.
You never know they might look at it themselves first ;)
more than one way to skin the proverbial cat etc
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I got the same bog standard reply also...........I noticed Ryan made reference to it in the DFP and that he would offer cheap prices to Leicester, if the scenario is reversed. In a clever sort of way, I really hope we are in a position to do this and make them look even more like shit.
By the way, I have wilted and tickets are now in my possession. I'm in self flagellation mode until Saturday.
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CusworthRovers wrote:
I got the same bog standard reply also...........I noticed Ryan made reference to it in the DFP and that he would offer cheap prices to Leicester, if the scenario is reversed. In a clever sort of way, I really hope we are in a position to do this and make them look even more like shit.
By the way, I have wilted and tickets are now in my possession. I'm in self flagellation mode until Saturday.
i haven't and i still wont be going, hopefully the live stream from the other thread will work and i'll be happily watching it on my tv without lining LCFCs robbing pockets.
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I wish I had your b*llocks mate. Sadly, the recent lack of DRFC has really done my craving no good at all. I've been on cold turkey man. I tell you what, I'll hide behind my hands and not look.
Actually, the fact that it's on the t'internet would have made it a better self argument, however I'd bought the chuffs yesterday.
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CusworthRovers wrote:
I wish I had your b*llocks mate. Sadly, the recent lack of DRFC has really done my craving no good at all. I've been on cold turkey man. I tell you what, I'll hide behind my hands and not look.
Actually, the fact that it's on the t'internet would have made it a better self argument, however I'd bought the chuffs yesterday.
oh believe me, i've missed it like hell too, im just picking and choosing my away games this year as me and the significant other are saving for a house, but if they had reduced the tickets to a tenner i would have gone, oh well, their loss.
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Hi all,
I've been watching this one closely as my girlfriend is from the Leicester area and so this was one of the first fixtures that we looked out for. The full priced tickets have been bought for the away end whilst we have a couple of her friends paying the reduced prices in the home end. From a positive point of view, they are disgusted that we are getting ripped off and have sent an e-mail to the football club pointing out the damage that they feel that this is causing to the image of \"their\" club. I'm expecting the same bog standard reply to their comments but will post anything that they pass my way for information.
Has anybody thought of some kind of subtle demonstration that the press could pick up on and point out the differences?
See you there!!
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MK32 wrote:
Hi all,
I've been watching this one closely as my girlfriend is from the Leicester area and so this was one of the first fixtures that we looked out for. The full priced tickets have been bought for the away end whilst we have a couple of her friends paying the reduced prices in the home end. From a positive point of view, they are disgusted that we are getting ripped off and have sent an e-mail to the football club pointing out the damage that they feel that this is causing to the image of \"their\" club. I'm expecting the same bog standard reply to their comments but will post anything that they pass my way for information.
Has anybody thought of some kind of subtle demonstration that the press could pick up on and point out the differences?See you there!!
How about a banner and/or chant \"Rip Off Leicester\"
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I've whacked this article (http://vivarovers.wordpress.com/2010/12/10/foxed-off-rovers-fans-frozen-out-of-fans-fixture/) up on Viva Rovers and its currently picking up a few views.
As for a chant for the day, to the tune of the Johnstones Paint Trophy one...
\"For sixteen quid more
For sixteen quid mor-or-ore
Same game that you're at
For sixteen quid more\"
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silent_majority wrote:
Dagenham.Rover wrote:
I realise you are saying football league policies are being contravened and thats whats being worked on, but also the law of the land is surely being contravened
No, the FL policy goes further than the law of the land.
SM surely you can't be serious ? :unsure:
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VivaRovers wrote:
I've whacked this article (http://vivarovers.wordpress.com/2010/12/10/foxed-off-rovers-fans-frozen-out-of-fans-fixture/) up on Viva Rovers and its currently picking up a few views.
As for a chant for the day, to the tune of the Johnstones Paint Trophy one...
\"For sixteen quid more
For sixteen quid mor-or-ore
Same game that you're at
For sixteen quid more\"
Congratulations as ever a superb editorial fella. :cheer:
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CusworthRovers wrote:
I wish I had your b*llocks mate.
Are you missing your own since you had the operation like? ;)
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Posted Yesterday, 07:29 PM
View PostJCWfox, on 09 December 2010 - 06:57 PM, said:
The official Website reports that we have sold 3,000 discounted tickets, however with the prices being cheap, I would expect more to be sold tomorrow.
Anybody have any ideas what the attendance will be?
Students at De Montfort can get tickets for £6. Although not brilliantly advertised, I can imagine that bringing a few more people in..
Taken from the Foxes site.........it gets worse by the minute, now a £20 price hike!
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4 of us less than £20.00 B) :( :angry: :woohoo: :angry:
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VivaRovers wrote:
I've whacked this article (http://vivarovers.wordpress.com/2010/12/10/foxed-off-rovers-fans-frozen-out-of-fans-fixture/) up on Viva Rovers and its currently picking up a few views.
As for a chant for the day, to the tune of the Johnstones Paint Trophy one...
\"For sixteen quid more
For sixteen quid mor-or-ore
Same game that you're at
For sixteen quid more\"
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or simply to tune of \"Come on Rovers\".......\"Rip off Leicester\"
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hoolahoop wrote:
silent_majority wrote:
Dagenham.Rover wrote:
I realise you are saying football league policies are being contravened and thats whats being worked on, but also the law of the land is surely being contravened
No, the FL policy goes further than the law of the land.
SM surely you can't be serious ? :unsure:
Hoola,
What I meant was that the FL, with regard to football supporters promise more and do so in very plain language, such as here;
ANTI-DISCRIMINATION POLICY
The Football League seeks to ensure that spectators, players, officials and others involved at football matches and in football generally should be protected from discrimination, including that on the grounds of age, race or ethnic origin, religious belief, sexual orientation, disability, gender or any other unjustifiable reason.
We have always considered that football fans exhibit particular traits to their football club that marks them out as a distinct group, i.e. that Doncaster Rovers fans are distinctly different to fans from Grimsby, Scunthorpe, whatever. For the FL to put in their policy a phrase that says 'or any other unjustifiable reason' acknowledges that aspect. Try and find something in any law of this land that uses a phrase that is so simplistic and yet so wide ranging.
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Wid you fella just wish the Chief Exec. at LCFC realised that the wording is quite specific i.e. they are quite clearly discriminating against us both on pricing and available facilities. Clearly NOT justifiable behaviour eh ?
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are tickets still available?
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All you lads and lasses going tomorrow - Good on you and I hope the Rovers do you proud.
Come on you Reds!!!
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Best thing we can do. Best the f**kerd. Then wipe your arse on the ticket and leave it on the seat :)
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Maybe Mr Ryancan talk some sense inter his counterparts in the Leicester City boardroom
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MK32 wrote:
Maybe Mr Ryancan talk some sense inter his counterparts in the Leicester City boardroom
Ouch, reading that offends me!! Got to be more careful when posting from the phone I reckon!!
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PDX_Rover wrote:
Best thing we can do. Best the fcukerd. Then wipe your arse on the ticket and leave it on the seat :)
My advice is to hang on to your ticket until we hear back from the Football League. We have appealed on their decision to support the stance of Leicester City, not surprisingly, and they now have 14 days to respond to our appeal. There is still every chance you will get your money back.
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My father would like to know if there is a link to watch the game today online?
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Bugger it, come 5 o'clock i'll still think we've had great value if we can come away with 3 points, they can shove their extra 16 quid where the sun don't shine!
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MrFrost wrote:
My father would like to know if there is a link to watch the game today online?
Scroll down about 20 threads Mr Freeze ;)
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Dear Mr Bettles
Thank you for your reply to my recent correspondence querying the inequality in pricing of tickets for the game (todays) against Doncaster Rovers. I do notice that it has taken you 13 days to respond rather than the 48 hours promised in your customer charter and I am afraid this only reinforces the perception that you give an inequality of service to one person as opposed to another, depending on what postcode they live in. I am particuarly disappointed as I did at one time live in Leicester and watched both City and Tigers and had the opinion that they were both well run and fair sports clubs with a Family ethos treating everyone equally, of ourse times change and it is plain this assumption is no longer true.
I shall most certainly follow your advice and write to the Football League bringing to their attention the relevant sections in the Equality Act that came into force in October 2010. I shall also wite to my MP to ask for his opinion on this, as well as the MP for Leicester. As a Union Steward and equality I have fought against equality and discrimination all my life and fail to see why your football club supports it on a moral if not legal basis.
For your information I shall not be attending the game.
Regards
in reply to
Thank you for writing to Leicester City Fanzone.
Whilst I can appreciate your frustration over the pricing for the Doncaster Rovers Fixture, Leicester City consulted with the Football League before making their decision and have followed their rules regarding local promotions.
If you are unhappy with the decision, I would suggest writing to the Customer Services Department at the Football League for further guidance.
We wish you and your club every success for the future.
Kind Regards,
Tom Bettles
On Behalf of Fanzone