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Viking Chat => Lucky Pint => Topic started by: VivaRovers on January 18, 2011, 12:31:17 pm
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Match preview for this game now up on Viva Rovers (http://vivarovers.wordpress.com/2011/01/18/molin-me-molineux-aha-wolves-preview/)
I normally predict a draw, but don't have that luxury tonight. Actually the last train home leaves before a penalty shoot-out would be completed so I'm going to say 3-3 with me never knowing the final score.
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Well I`ll be at an away game tonight for a change, we`re cutting it fine though as we can`t leave Stainy until 5pm, i`m not predicting anything because I usually put the kybosh on them when I do
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I can see another defeat, two or three nil I think but the performance will be better than saturday.
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we tend to play poorly vs lower league opposition who we naturally expect to beat at home
i think it will be v.tight game tonight. can see donny scoring at least 1 i can
i say 1-1 ft
2-1 after ET to wolves
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Wolves27, any tips on where to park tonight, close to the ground, i`ll be getting there for around 7pm hopefully
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I'm drunk and I'm always right when so ... we\"ll win!
I'll check later!
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As brief highlights of the game are on ITV later this evening... just wondering if there might be streaming available via the net. Anyone know ?.
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A good win tonight , predict 3-1 Rovers. Our lads arses will still be stinging from Satdi, play our game properly i.e on the floor and the game is eminently winnable.
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Sullivan
Chambers
JOC
Lockwood
Hird
Wilson
Oster
Coppinger
Woods
Hayter
Sharp
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Wolverhampton
01 Hahnemann
05 Stearman
06 Craddock
22 Mouyokolo
23 Zubar
08 Henry
12 Hunt
14 Jones
25 Mujangi Bia
10 Fletcher
29 Doyle
Substitutes
13 Hennessey, 11 Ward, 16 Berra, 17 Jarvis, 20 Milijas, 37 Davis, 18 Vokes
Doncaster
01 Sullivan
02 O'Connor
06 Chambers
11 Lockwood
21 Hird
07 Woods
15 Wilson
16 Oster
26 Coppinger
10 Sharp
12 Hayter
Substitutes
33 Woods, 03 Friend, 23 Webster, 25 Guedes, 22 Shiels, 09 Brooker, 29 Fairhurst
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Anyone got a link to listen to the game? I dont have player.
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Bad news already. Woods named but not made it on to pitch.
Shiels starts.
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Shiels has started instead of Martin Woods - not sure why
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1-0 to them already.
Fletcher.
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What happened there. We nearly score, have a second effort do out for a corner, then we're 1-0 down ??
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Ouch! Less than 5 mins :cry:
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Poor defending again and again
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snods big brother wrote:
Poor defending again and again
Is that what the commentators are saying?
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Sounds like it to me
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Looking at the bbc updates we should be mullering them, they reckon we've got 12 players on the pitch. Woods and Shiels are there and Shiels is also on the bench. That guy is very talented!!
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'Wolves looking the more likely' according to SSN
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Copps denied a penalty - another one turned down!
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I'm watching the sky sports live commentary, Jesus anyone would think they were wolves fans!!
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Half time 1-0 Billy has had the best chance just before they scored - 1 on 1 with the goalie and a pen denied for a foul on Copps
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Our lads really will have to go to 'Diving lessons' to get anything from match officials.
This is bloody ridiculous , we play the game by NOT play acting and they penalise us.............that is not the spirit of the game!! fookin furious time after time we always get NOWT.
When we don't touch oppo players they get penalties and it's all fair and above board my arse.
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Sounds like we're doing ok. Occasional hints of getting in to danger area. Last ball and decision making where it hurts letting us down again. Not getting early crosses or shots in when we have chance.
I hope we come out and step it up, as we know like at the KM we can cause them problems. Steady as she goes at the back. Locky and Sam playing well again.
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It wa definitely a penalty but we are playing a premiership team so what do you expect.
We can get a result here if we stop treating it as a training session especially in defence.
For all you Wilson lovers he is totally lost.
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just seen the goal, shocking defending and a simple header, they didnt show any other highlights tho, as if i should expect coverage :)
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hoolahoop wrote:
Our lads really will have to go to 'Diving lessons' to get anything from match officials.
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We could do with Lewis Guy back to give some lesssons :)
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Wellred wrote:
It wa definitely a penalty but we are playing a premiership team so what do you expect.
We can get a result here if we stop treating it as a training session especially in defence.
For all you Wilson lovers he is totally lost.
You're watching a different game to the commentators Wellred.
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Wellred wrote:
It wa definitely a penalty but we are playing a premiership team so what do you expect.
We can get a result here if we stop treating it as a training session especially in defence.
For all you Wilson lovers he is totally lost.
There you have it Wellred - nobody ever said Wilson was Premiership quality. If Wolves are any good then Wilson should be a little lost if there's a gulf in class between the two leagues. Judge him in Championship games.
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:(
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Game Over :(
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Concentrate on the league! ;)
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Majunghi Bia, good old fashioned English name.
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Was that another pen turned down for foul on JOC?
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Doyle 3-0.
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I know it's against a Prem team and only the FA Cup... but this centre back situation needs sorting desperately.
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ScillyRover wrote:
I know it's against a Prem team and only the FA Cup... but this centre back situation needs sorting desperately.
Killa should sort it, hopefully. Looked good on Saturday.
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More crap defending and goal keeping - it goes from bad to worse
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Mark DRFC wrote:
just seen the goal, shocking defending and a simple header,
Are you suprised?
Defensively we have been suspect for weeks.
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snods big brother wrote:
More crap defending and goal keeping - it goes from bad to worse
Sulli HAS TO BE dropped for next game.
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VikingJames wrote:
ScillyRover wrote:
I know it's against a Prem team and only the FA Cup... but this centre back situation needs sorting desperately.
Killa should sort it, hopefully. Looked good on Saturday.
I'm sure he will be great but we still need a decent partner for him imo
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snods big brother wrote:
More crap defending and goal keeping - it goes from bad to worse
Bout time Woods got his chance in goal come saturday. He alone must be tearing his hair out at how Sully retains his place on recent performances - step aside old man...your time is up.
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Rigoglioso wrote:
Reading between the lines on the BBC text commentary, Wolves appear to have been a shade fortunate as Donny came out at the start of the second half and dominated until the second goal.
That makes it even worse then!
Unable to turn dominance into goals and have the defenive capabilities of a Conference South Team and a confused flapper in goal.
Might as well have turned out a second string tonight - couldnt have done any worse.
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Game over for Sulli surely, they have 4 attempts on goal and score4 times. This needs sorting and fast, the whole style of the way we play has crumbled into a mess!
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I see the traditional second half collapse away from home has happened again.
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Thinwhiteduke wrote:
snods big brother wrote:
More crap defending and goal keeping - it goes from bad to worse
Bout time Woods got his chance in goal come saturday. He alone must be tearing his hair out at how Sully retains his place on recent performances - step aside old man...your time is up.
Maybe if Woods is given the nod for Saturday and Killa starts, partner JOC with him, start Friend then maybe we'll get a result v the Tractor Boys.
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Souza on for coppinger? Interesting move at 4-0 down :blink:
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Its called protecting your better players for the weekend.
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Old Popsider wrote:
snods big brother wrote:
More crap defending and goal keeping - it goes from bad to worse
Sulli HAS TO BE dropped for next game.
He should have been dropped for this one, shocking AGAIN! :dry:
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hoolahoop wrote:
Game over for Sulli surely, they have 4 attempts on goal and score4 times. This needs sorting and fast, the whole style of the way we play has crumbled into a mess!
Agree fully Hoola.
Premiership team or not this is humiliating. Including the debacle v Readin we have now conceded eleven in four matches and this one aint even over yet.
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It'll be very interesting to see what team SOD puts out Sat.
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old popsider your street cred has just fallen through the floor and some ,start george friend lmao ,chocolate n fireguard describe him
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Christ. It's a tad embarrasing now!
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Old Popsider wrote:
start Friend then maybe we'll get a result v the Tractor Boys.
Are you drunk? Start Frien you might as well go and put a few quid on Ipswich now down at your local Bookies.
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5-0. Embarrassing. :blink:
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Thinwhiteduke wrote:
we have now conceded eleven in four matches and this one aint even over yet.
Sorry...make that 12 in 4 games. Farcical.
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dumbroofer wrote:
old popsider your street cred has just fallen through the floor and some ,start george friend lmao ,chocolate n fireguard describe him
:laugh: :laugh: Oh well, didn't realise I had any street cred :laugh: :laugh:
Seriously though, somehow things have gone badly awry this last month and SOD must take a serious look at the players he has given a game to - starts and subs - and try to figure out where the combinations haven't worked.
SOD has had a torrid time with selections due to injuries and has been put in an awkward position trying to get a combination of players that can play to the style he wants from them.
Players are now starting to come back from injury so the situation should ease up a little. There are new players in the squad to put into the mix, so hopefully SOD will be able to come up with a different mix for Saturday, a mix that will perform as a cohesive unit and put some goals on the board for us.
As long as Sullivan and one or two others don't get the nod to start then things should be interesting and maybe, just maybe a point at least will be in the bag by final whistle v Ipswich.
Oh, re Friend - yes I suppose you aren't far out. Leave him on the bench.
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Christ thank god thats over. Anyone know the last time we lost 5-0? Have a word Sean! JOC and Kilgallon at CB on saturday with chambers and hopefully mills if we can sign him. Anyone know when muzzy is back?
Stick keegan in for wilson and woods in for sullivan (although can never see this happening).
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Poor - back 4 were very poor Sully to partly to blame for Doyles goal but again not helped by poor defending for the other 4 goals. Chambers has had a shocker as well. Killa and Sousa in the middle on Sat with JOC on the right and Friend on the left (he is the only left back we have got at the moment!) Keegan in for Wilson, Shiels, Copps and Oster, Billy and Brooker up front. Sully in goal.
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Knee jerk reaction making wholesale changes is just setting us up for cementing a downward spiral.
Somehow Sean has got to pick the bones out of a now rapidly crumbling squad and shore things up for a bit.
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You say we are getting players back from injury but as soon as one comes back we lose another.
Word is Woods has done his groin again and I'm guessing that's going to mean an op.
Same with Gillett, as soon as he comes back and plays in a practice game his knees gone again.
No word yet on how Stock and Dumbuya are fairing.
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snods big brother wrote:
Poor - back 4 were very poor Sully to partly to blame for Doyles goal but again not helped by poor defending for the other 4 goals. Chambers has had a shocker as well. Killa and Sousa in the middle on Sat with JOC on the right and Friend on the left (he is the only left back we have got at the moment!) Keegan in for Wilson, Shiels, Copps and Oster, Billy and Brooker up front. Sully in goal.
1. I wouldn't let Souza anywhere near our starting 11 again, no matter how poorly they defended tonight!
2. How can you drop Hayter? Ok he hasn't had the best of games against Reading and Wolves, but his record this season speaks for itself.
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It was either drop Hayter or Sharp - went for Hayter as Sharp is the leading scorer.
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Why drop any of the strikers when they have both done so well for us this season? Its the defence and centre of midfield that need changing.
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To make matters worse, it's one of the featured replays on ITV tonight.
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snods big brother wrote:
It was either drop Hayter or Sharp - went for Hayter as Sharp is the leading scorer.
Actually yeah, you're right. Hayter has only scored 9 (NINE) this season, which is a massive 2 (TWO) less than Billy Sharp.
Hayter needs to be ashamed of himself, in all honesty. He calls himself a striker? What right has he got to be selected over a man who hasn't even got through a full 90 minutes of football since Rovers got promoted to the Championship?
Ring the changes!!
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Crikey fellas, we're playing away to a premier league team, hardly end of the world despite the scoreline!
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Bikka wrote:
Crikey fellas, we're playing away to a premier league team, hardly end of the world despite the scoreline!
Yes we were but don't forget Wolves are at the arse end of the Premiership and looking at dropping back to the Championship next season unless misery guts McCarthy can get them to perform.
The way the defence capitulated again tonight is inexcusable. Time for wholesale changes. Okay if that happens we might get spanked again at Ipswich but at least it would show that SOD is not afraid to make changes to try for a better result.
I cannot bear to see any more 4 or 5 goals go in against us. It's embarrassing especially considering that everyone knows DRFC can play stylish football and get results as well.
Changes must come - starting with Sulli.
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VikingJames wrote:
snods big brother wrote:
It was either drop Hayter or Sharp - went for Hayter as Sharp is the leading scorer.
Actually yeah, you're right. Hayter has only scored 9 (NINE) this season, which is a massive 2 (TWO) less than Billy Sharp.
Hayter needs to be ashamed of himself, in all honesty. He calls himself a striker? What right has he got to be selected over a man who hasn't even got through a full 90 minutes of football since Rovers got promoted to the Championship?
Ring the changes!!
Sarcasm love it! Makes me smile
Suggesting a change to the line up that is all - Hayter has been crap for the last 2 games (anyone disagree?) - give Brooker a chance to see what he can do - if we don't give him a chance from the start of a game he is never going to get the chance to play a full 90 minutes - the one 10 minutes or so here and there are going to prove nothing. Failing that we could drop Sharp as well he has not been much better and play Fairhurst in his place and have him partner Brooker. Why not? And if people say he is not experienced enough for the level neither is Woods in goal!
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snods big brother wrote:
VikingJames wrote:
snods big brother wrote:
It was either drop Hayter or Sharp - went for Hayter as Sharp is the leading scorer.
Actually yeah, you're right. Hayter has only scored 9 (NINE) this season, which is a massive 2 (TWO) less than Billy Sharp.
Hayter needs to be ashamed of himself, in all honesty. He calls himself a striker? What right has he got to be selected over a man who hasn't even got through a full 90 minutes of football since Rovers got promoted to the Championship?
Ring the changes!!
Sarcasm love it! Makes me smile
Suggesting a change to the line up that is all - Hayter has been crap for the last 2 games (anyone disagree?) - give Brooker a chance to see what he can do - if we don't give him a chance from the start of a game he is never going to get the chance to play a full 90 minutes - the one 10 minutes or so here and there are going to prove nothing. Failing that we could drop Sharp as well he has not been much better and play Fairhurst in his place and have him partner Brooker. Why not? And if people say he is not experienced enough for the level neither is Woods in goal!
Eh, why not drop Oster while we're at it? What about Copps? Or Jimmy?
None of them have been very good for the last 2 games.
In fact, why don't we just play the youth team? And then when their extensive shot at the first team of a massive two games is up, we can buy a new squad!
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Having just got back this makes interesting reading.
Hard to praise anyone to be honest. If any players stood out it would be Locky, Wilson and maybe Deano.
Christ we really miss Stock, and to be honest Wellens
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Well last night wasn’t the best of games to watch….i was surprised how little donny actually tried to take the game to wolves, if you’d scored early whole different game imo, but at 1-0 we looked surprisingly comfortable and you rarely troubled us. If you got back 1-1 at this stage we may found it hard stepping up a gear to get any more goals. But then the 2nd goal killed the tie and when we relaxed further the goals came at the end. Wasn’t your best display last night, but you did superbly in first leg imo and played some lovely football that day so do take positives out of the tie. Wish you all well for the rest of the season, lets hope we’re not playing you next season just yet please.
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wolves27 wrote:
Well last night wasn’t the best of games to watch….i was surprised how little donny actually tried to take the game to wolves, if you’d scored early whole different game imo, but at 1-0 we looked surprisingly comfortable and you rarely troubled us. If you got back 1-1 at this stage we may found it hard stepping up a gear to get any more goals. But then the 2nd goal killed the tie and when we relaxed further the goals came at the end. Wasn’t your best display last night, but you did superbly in first leg imo and played some lovely football that day so do take positives out of the tie. Wish you all well for the rest of the season, lets hope we’re not playing you next season just yet please.
And the chance came, denied a nailed on penalty at 1-0!
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Filo wrote:
wolves27 wrote:
Well last night wasn’t the best of games to watch….i was surprised how little donny actually tried to take the game to wolves, if you’d scored early whole different game imo, but at 1-0 we looked surprisingly comfortable and you rarely troubled us. If you got back 1-1 at this stage we may found it hard stepping up a gear to get any more goals. But then the 2nd goal killed the tie and when we relaxed further the goals came at the end. Wasn’t your best display last night, but you did superbly in first leg imo and played some lovely football that day so do take positives out of the tie. Wish you all well for the rest of the season, lets hope we’re not playing you next season just yet please.
And the chance came, denied a nailed on penalty at 1-0!
i maybe wrong as you had 2 shots for pens, but one in the second half which i first thought \"boy we're lucky there\" was shown to be on the highlights as a dive (in my obv biased opinion)
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Not had chance to be on the forum much this week, so here's my belated thoughts.
Sulli couldnt really be \"blamed\" for any of the goals.
1) free header despite Locky and JOC in close attendance, and it crept in at the far post, just outside his reach.
2) Sam should have stopped the ball coming in, but it took a deflection off Locky (I think) to take it past Sulli. Very lucky goal.
3) Sully was exposed by the defence and more or less had it covered, but it hit the post and went in. An inch further to the left and it stays out. Very lucky goal.
4) More defensive woes means Sully has a 1 on 1 to deal with and gets a finger to it, but not enough to stop it going in.
5) The shot comes through a crowded box and nestles in the far corner. Again Sully is so very close to getting something on it. It seemed to go through about 3 pairs of legs from where I was sat (low down in row 3)
That was a very strange game. Even the Wolves fan I work with who went with us said 5-0 was flattering, and both sides played badly. The first half, I lost count of the number of times we played a ball into the box and had Oster or someone running in to smash it in, only for a wolves defender to get a toe to it and divert the path of the ball just enough to take the scoring opportunity away. It was just one of those nights
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RobTheRover wrote:
Not had chance to be on the forum much this week, so here's my belated thoughts.
Sulli couldnt really be \"blamed\" for any of the goals.
1) free header despite Locky and JOC in close attendance, and it crept in at the far post, just outside his reach.
2) Sam should have stopped the ball coming in, but it took a deflection off Locky (I think) to take it past Sulli. Very lucky goal.
3) Sully was exposed by the defence and more or less had it covered, but it hit the post and went in. An inch further to the left and it stays out. Very lucky goal.
4) More defensive woes means Sully has a 1 on 1 to deal with and gets a finger to it, but not enough to stop it going in.
5) The shot comes through a crowded box and nestles in the far corner. Again Sully is so very close to getting something on it. It seemed to go through about 3 pairs of legs from where I was sat (low down in row 3)
That was a very strange game. Even the Wolves fan I work with who went with us said 5-0 was flattering, and both sides played badly. The first half, I lost count of the number of times we played a ball into the box and had Oster or someone running in to smash it in, only for a wolves defender to get a toe to it and divert the path of the ball just enough to take the scoring opportunity away. It was just one of those nights
I tend to agree apart from 3). No keeper should be beaten at his near post and I think even Sulli will put his hands up to that one.
As for it being \"lucky\"- well, that is the extra quality of striker you come up against when you play a Premier League team. The last two games have probably made us look a much worse side than we are, but in terms of a reality check they've shown how far away we are from being Premier League standard. Something that applies to just about every side in the Championship, it must be said.
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wolves27 wrote:
Filo wrote:
wolves27 wrote:
Well last night wasn’t the best of games to watch….i was surprised how little donny actually tried to take the game to wolves, if you’d scored early whole different game imo, but at 1-0 we looked surprisingly comfortable and you rarely troubled us. If you got back 1-1 at this stage we may found it hard stepping up a gear to get any more goals. But then the 2nd goal killed the tie and when we relaxed further the goals came at the end. Wasn’t your best display last night, but you did superbly in first leg imo and played some lovely football that day so do take positives out of the tie. Wish you all well for the rest of the season, lets hope we’re not playing you next season just yet please.
And the chance came, denied a nailed on penalty at 1-0!
i maybe wrong as you had 2 shots for pens, but one in the second half which i first thought \"boy we're lucky there\" was shown to be on the highlights as a dive (in my obv biased opinion)
Agree- the first one (the one on Coppinger) in the first half was a stuck-on penalty. The one in the second (on O'Connor, I think) didn't have much going for it. The ref was a real homer (Sir Alex would love him at Old Trafford) and the \"assistant\" on our side was there for purely ornamental reasons, I think. However, I don't think the officials affected the result.
Good luck for the rest of the season. Play like you do against the big boys (Man City, Chelsea) when you play the lesser lights and you'll stay up, no bother.
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The Red Baron wrote:
...and the \"assistant\" on our side was there for purely ornamental reasons, I think.
Ah, you mean Mr Bean! Did anyone else think he ran the line as though he'd said to the ref \"Here, watch this! I'll do my best Mr Bean impression in front of the Donny fans!\"? Complete with knees tied together by elastic! Amazing work, Mr Lino!