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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: German Rover on May 02, 2011, 04:46:43 am
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:byebye :byebye
thanks for the good times, thanks for the fact i've spent 5 of the last ten christmas days in the desert. I truely hope your 70 virgins are all susan boyle.
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great news,will post my thoughts later on today
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i dont know whats more shocking
OBL has been killed or Steve Brooker can run again
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May he rot in hell. Although I still think some on here would have rather woken to the news that Thatcher was dead..........................!!!
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I was a bit bleary-eyed when I logged on this morning and I when I looked at this item I thought the KKK had finally got their man and that we would be seeing President Biden later on!
And they found him in Pakistan- and not exactly in the mountains either. I wonder how long the Pakistan government had known his whereabouts?
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conspiracy theorists are gonna have a field day on this one. Obama recently admitted he can't close Guantanamo bay despite the pre election promise to do so, and his popularity is at an all time low because nothing is changing. So perhaps some timely 'good news' was needed, afterall he's up for re-election next year.
Body buried at sea? hmmmmm.......
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conspiracy theorists are gonna have a field day on this one. Obama recently admitted he can't close Guantanamo bay despite the pre election promise to do so, and his popularity is at an all time low because nothing is changing. So perhaps some timely 'good news' was needed, afterall he's up for re-election next year.
Body buried at sea? hmmmmm.......
That is what I thought aswell a bit quick to get rid of the body I think the yanks have still got the body
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to be fair, they will have photo's. Just wonder if they tried to interrogate him before they killed him.
It will teach him for using his real address on PSN though...
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They should have paraded the Kitson like a trophy through the streets of New York.
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They didn't make the same mistake that they did with Saddam- i.e. they made sure he wasn't \"captured.\"
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Reports are that they commanded him to surrender, which he politely declined, so they shot him in the head.
Seems fair enough.
Buried at sea was the only option. Anywhere on land would end up a shrine to extremists.
Apparently Adolf was gutted though.....
http://qld.so/osama
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to be fair, they will have photo's. Just wonder if they tried to interrogate him before they killed him.
Ah, yeah but photos eh? What do they mean? I mean they had photos of planes crashing into the towers but everyone knows the towers were really destroyed by thermite placed there in 1969 when the towers were being built.
I suspect there's more to it than the US is letting on. Until I see Osama's death certificate in Hawaii and a video from a mini sub of his corpse being eaten by Neptune, then I'll refuse to believe he's dead.
Mind, you never know who's driving the min-subs either do you....?
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And they found him in Pakistan- and not exactly in the mountains either. I wonder how long the Pakistan government had known his whereabouts?
It depends how you define \"Govt\". I suspect (from snippets I've seen so far) that some local officials must have known that bin Laden was living there. How high up the chain that knowledge went is the big question. It just underlines how worrying the situation is in Pakistan.
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Ah, yeah but photos eh? What do they mean? I mean they had photos of planes crashing into the towers but everyone knows the towers were really destroyed by thermite placed there in 1969 when the towers were being built.
If anyone hasnt seen \"Loose Change\", here it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE
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I wonder, will the fundamentalists kick off now? The west has to find a new pariah, now.
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It doesn't really matter if he is alive or dead, it won't stop terror being done in his name still.. I don't believe removal of a figurehead will stop that, he must have many generals ready to die for his 'cause'.
A bit like the teeth of a shark there is always another waiting when the one before it falls out...
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it`s his own fault! the most wanted man in the world and he insisted on taking his iphone every where he went! :laugh:
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May he rot in hell. Although I still think some on here would have rather woken to the news that Thatcher was dead..........................!!!
No I'm happy to wait a day or two.
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May he rot in hell. Although I still think some on here would have rather woken to the news that Thatcher was dead..........................!!!
No I'm happy to wait a day or two.
As long as we don't wait too long.
Jelly and ice cream when Thatcher dies and all that :thumbsup:
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I think this is seen by most Americans as 'divine justice', but I believe it will inflame the rest of his organization to continue their terrorist acts perhaps more fervently, as well as continue to erode relations with Pakistan.
So I'm not sure how 'good' this is, although it does put things to rest for the families of 9/11.
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Osama Bin Laden killed in Pakistan.
Who said you can't take the Bin out on a Bank Holiday..........
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If anyone hasnt seen \"Loose Change\", here it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE
very interesting video that rob.
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Sure is, isn't it. Lots of unanswered questions still.
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If anyone hasnt seen \"Loose Change\", here it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE
very interesting video that rob.
Christ up above, that is the biggest load of half baked b*llocks I've ever seen.
Trust me on this one. I KNOW what I'm talking about. The subject of the mechanisms of collapse of buildings like the WTC is something I've worked on for 20 years. And every single comment that the narrator of that film comes out with is either factually incorrect or an ignorant/deliberate (take your choice) warping of the facts to suit his argument. There is NO QUESTION WHATSOEVER on how and why the WTC towers came down. Respected world authorities on the subject had it nailed years ago. Instead, the film pulls out crack-pot self-publicist academics from obscure low ranking universities, with absolutely no knowledge of structural engineering, or the effect of fire/impact/explosions on them to spout \"Well I think that...\"
The comment that the WTC towers were designed to withstand an aircraft impact is factually incorrect. What the designers did in the late 60s was check whether the buildings were massive enough to resist being KNOCKED OVER by the momentum of an impact. They did no analysis whatsoever of the effect of losing 60% of the columns on one face, pancaking of internal floors and weakening of the structure through elevated temperature. They couldn't because no-one could back then - the knowledge simply did not exist.
Structural steel begins to lose it's strength and stiffness at temperatures above ~500C. There are MANY examples of severe structural damage to steelwork from fires of this sort of temperature. You do NOT need to melt or vapourise steel to cause partial or complete collapse.
Whether a building then collapses due to this damage depends entirely on the structural form of the building and the extent of the damage. The WTC towers were of a design which we now recognise as being particularly vulnerable. I'm more than happy to bore the pants off anyone who really wants to understand this, but trust me - it's the case.
The clean central collapse of the towers is perfectly to be expected by anyone who has properly looked at the structural form of the buildings. Again, I'll expound at length if anyone is interested.
The poentential energy released by the mass of ONE floor slab in the WTC building falling by ONE storey height is about equivalent to the detonation energy of 7kg of TNT. In fact, 110 floors fell by an average of 55 storeys each - that would release energy equivalent to the detonation of about 50 Tonnes of TNT!
a)Is there any wonder that people who have never in their lives heard a high explosive detonation claim to have heard explosion noises?
B) Is there any wonder that the buildings collapsed at near free-fall speed? The structural resistance of the lower floors was negligible compared to the energy developed by the falling structure. As far as decelerating the collapse was cocnerened, it might as well have been meccano.
I find it deeply depressing that people are led astray by ill-informed shite like this. There are REALLY important nasty thngs that Governments do in our name without getting carried away with this sort of rubbish.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5-b7KKmCd4
Its a fake lol
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I must admit I find it a little incredible that less than 24 hours after killing him, they've disposed of the body.
I know he's not exactly going to be a mine of evidence, but after all this time trying to find him, you'd think they would have spent more time examining him or something.
Just seems a little odd to me
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Madelline McCann is officially the hide and seek world champion now then?
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Madelline McCann is officially the hide and seek world champion now then?
A few days ago, you declared that people who chanted nasty songs at football matches were 'the lowest of the low'.....:dry:
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I must admit I find it a little incredible that less than 24 hours after killing him, they've disposed of the body.
I know he's not exactly going to be a mine of evidence, but after all this time trying to find him, you'd think they would have spent more time examining him or something.
Just seems a little odd to me
Yep i`ve got to admit, things sound a little dodgy to me.
If reports are to be believed, apparently he was given the opportunity to surrender, he declined and was shot in the head, why was n`t he shot with the intention to wound him and taken alive? Interrogated and then put on trial?
His DNA was taken and matched with his sister stored DNA, can the recovery of the body and DNA samples be done in such a short space of time?
And then you have the burial at seas, without any evidence!
Also, if Pakistan had no knowledge of the attack beforehand why are`nt they screaming blue murder about the violation of Pakistani airspace and un authorised military action in their country?
And how does a high profile international fugitive manage to live right under the noses of the Pakistani equivalent of Sandhurst academy?
Thigs just don`t add up to me!
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I must admit I find it a little incredible that less than 24 hours after killing him, they've disposed of the body.
I know he's not exactly going to be a mine of evidence, but after all this time trying to find him, you'd think they would have spent more time examining him or something.
Just seems a little odd to me
Yep i`ve got to admit, things sound a little dodgy to me.
If reports are to be believed, apparently he was given the opportunity to surrender, he declined and was shot in the head, why was n`t he shot with the intention to wound him and taken alive? Interrogated and then put on trial?
His DNA was taken and matched with his sister stored DNA, can the recovery of the body and DNA samples be done in such a short space of time?
And then you have the burial at seas, without any evidence!
Also, if Pakistan had no knowledge of the attack beforehand why are`nt they screaming blue murder about the violation of Pakistani airspace and un authorised military action in their country?
And how does a high profile international fugitive manage to live right under the noses of the Pakistani equivalent of Sandhurst academy?
Thigs just don`t add up to me!
Well I guess you can see only that which you want to see really...can't you ?
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I must admit I find it a little incredible that less than 24 hours after killing him, they've disposed of the body.
There are cultural aspects to this. The culture throughout the Muslim world is that funerals take place very quickly after a death - usually within 24 hours. Keeping the body any longer would give the radicals yet another thing to inflame their youth with.
Plus, there's always the question of what state the body was in after the assassination. Again, what's the point of plastering pictures of him with half his face shot off all over the press and give the maniacs another reason to sign up as suicide bombers.
As for Pakistan, the place is on a knife-edge. There's no question that there are important and influential people there who support al Qaeda either through belief or through getting kickbacks. But it's a bloody big country and there will be shades of opinion of every hue. Just because some officials have probably connived to keep bin Laden safe, it doesn't mean that \"Pakistan\" is an al Qaeda supporter. Any more than the fact that we have a naive bigotted idiot as Mayor in Donny means that all Doncastrians are naive bigotted idiots.
The fact that some officials might have shielded bin Laden is even more reason for us to support those in power there who want a good relationship with the West.
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its obvious why he was shot. why put him on trial where he could claim western powers have riggrd the outcome etc, and eventually he would be imprisonned or executed, both results have obvious problems with the Muslim world.
Muslims are expected to be buried within 24 hours (Dodi Fayed) and having a burial place would lead to a martyrdom site.. too difficult to contemplate.
I am sure the Americans have some part of his body or DNA.
How come the Pakastani government didn't know where he was, planning permission for the compound and he needed dialysis?
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Nice to see Doncaster can produce a bigger red neck than the yanks
They should have paraded the Kitson like a trophy through the streets of New York.
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Nice to see Doncaster can produce a bigger red neck than the yanks
They should have paraded the Kitson like a trophy through the streets of New York.
Aye.
After all, we're fighting this war to preserve our western values.
Or is that Wild Western values?
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Nice to see Doncaster can produce a bigger red neck than the yanks
They should have paraded the Kitson like a trophy through the streets of New York.
Aye.
After all, we're fighting this war to preserve our western values.
Or is that Wild Western values?
:evil:
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It's been a good week for Obama. He's also put Trump in his place.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCkTzqIW-qw&feature=related
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Nice to see Doncaster can produce a bigger red neck than the yanks
They should have paraded the Kitson like a trophy through the streets of New York.
Trailer trash. Thats me.
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It's been a good week for Obama. He's also put Trump in his place.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCkTzqIW-qw&feature=related
Ouch! Now THAT is how to put down a d**khead.
Mind, Obama's just lost 100million votes off Roswell obsessives.
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If anyone hasnt seen \"Loose Change\", here it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE
very interesting video that rob.
Christ up above, that is the biggest load of half baked b*llocks I've ever seen.
Trust me on this one. I KNOW what I'm talking about. The subject of the mechanisms of collapse of buildings like the WTC is something I've worked on for 20 years. And every single comment that the narrator of that film comes out with is either factually incorrect or an ignorant/deliberate (take your choice) warping of the facts to suit his argument. There is NO QUESTION WHATSOEVER on how and why the WTC towers came down. Respected world authorities on the subject had it nailed years ago. Instead, the film pulls out crack-pot self-publicist academics from obscure low ranking universities, with absolutely no knowledge of structural engineering, or the effect of fire/impact/explosions on them to spout \"Well I think that...\"
The comment that the WTC towers were designed to withstand an aircraft impact is factually incorrect. What the designers did in the late 60s was check whether the buildings were massive enough to resist being KNOCKED OVER by the momentum of an impact. They did no analysis whatsoever of the effect of losing 60% of the columns on one face, pancaking of internal floors and weakening of the structure through elevated temperature. They couldn't because no-one could back then - the knowledge simply did not exist.
Structural steel begins to lose it's strength and stiffness at temperatures above ~500C. There are MANY examples of severe structural damage to steelwork from fires of this sort of temperature. You do NOT need to melt or vapourise steel to cause partial or complete collapse.
Whether a building then collapses due to this damage depends entirely on the structural form of the building and the extent of the damage. The WTC towers were of a design which we now recognise as being particularly vulnerable. I'm more than happy to bore the pants off anyone who really wants to understand this, but trust me - it's the case.
The clean central collapse of the towers is perfectly to be expected by anyone who has properly looked at the structural form of the buildings. Again, I'll expound at length if anyone is interested.
The poentential energy released by the mass of ONE floor slab in the WTC building falling by ONE storey height is about equivalent to the detonation energy of 7kg of TNT. In fact, 110 floors fell by an average of 55 storeys each - that would release energy equivalent to the detonation of about 50 Tonnes of TNT!
a)Is there any wonder that people who have never in their lives heard a high explosive detonation claim to have heard explosion noises?
B) Is there any wonder that the buildings collapsed at near free-fall speed? The structural resistance of the lower floors was negligible compared to the energy developed by the falling structure. As far as decelerating the collapse was cocnerened, it might as well have been meccano.
I find it deeply depressing that people are led astray by ill-informed shite like this. There are REALLY important nasty thngs that Governments do in our name without getting carried away with this sort of rubbish.
So, in summary, you dont think its kosher then? lol
TBH, my feeling is that they've rather stretched the point to make a \"feature\" out of it. I was more intrigued by the Pentagon points though, such as where the hell did the plane go?
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I have been to several middle east countries and several bible belt states in USA and it is difficult to tell which is most screwed up by extremist religious nutters..
Religion? as Stephen Fry says \"I've sh*t it.\"
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Reports are that they commanded him to surrender, which he politely declined, so they shot him in the head.
Seems fair enough.
Buried at sea was the only option. Anywhere on land would end up a shrine to extremists.
Apparently Adolf was gutted though.....
http://qld.so/osama
I'm a wee bit drunk on gooseberry wine but I just pissed myself watching that.
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Madelline McCann is officially the hide and seek world champion now then?
And that is the funniest joke on this thread!
Shudda got a babysitter!
BTW, the t**t was six foot five or something, so if he refused to surrender I'd have just shot him anyway. Those SEAL guys are all tiny you know, so they can creep into small spaces. Osama would have had 'em in hand to hand fighting, no problem. SO don't blame 'em for shooting him, I would have! It's like a lion coming towards you - you don't wait till it get's it teeth into yer!
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Madelline McCann is officially the hide and seek world champion now then?
And that is the funniest joke on this thread!
Shudda got a babysitter!
BTW, the t**t was six foot five or something, so if he refused to surrender I'd have just shot him anyway. Those SEAL guys are all tiny you know, so they can creep into small spaces. Osama would have had 'em in hand to hand fighting, no problem. SO don't blame 'em for shooting him, I would have! It's like a lion coming towards you - you don't wait till it get's it teeth into yer!
Not just that, he was threatening to beat the Seals with the soggy end of one of his stinky wives.
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Not just that, he was threatening to beat the Seals with the soggy end of one of his stinky wives.
:thumbsup: