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Title: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: donnyguy61 on October 28, 2011, 05:45:06 am
http://www.twtd.co.uk/news.php?storyid=19442



Town Linked With New Move for Doncaster Striker
Thu 27th Oct 2011 23:20

Town are set to make a renewed move for Doncaster Rovers striker Billy Sharp, according to a tabloid report. In May, the Blues had a £2.3 million offer for Sharp turned down by the South Yorkshiremen, along with a £300,000 bid for midfielder James Coppinger.







Manager Paul Jewell is now reported to be ready to pay £1.5 million for the 25-year-old frontman, with the ex-Sheffield United man initially joining on loan with a permanent deal subsequently completed in January when the transfer window reopens.


Second-from-bottom Doncaster, who recently appointed Dean Saunders as manager after Sean O’Driscoll’s departure, reportedly may be willing to sell Sharp, whose contract is up in the summer of 2013, in order to bring in cash to rebuild their squad as they try to avoid relegation.


Sharp has scored two goals in five starts and two sub appearances this season, having picked up an ankle ligament injury on the opening day of the campaign.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: The Red Baron on October 28, 2011, 07:18:17 am
£1.5M? They're having a laugh. We may want to cut the wage bill, but I didn't think we were having a fire sale.

The biggest stumbling block to any deal would be Billy himself. He didn't want to uproot his family to go to Southampton. I can't see him wanting to go to Ipswich for similar reasons.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: mushRTID on October 28, 2011, 07:31:44 am
He is going to go, you can't half a wage bill and keep a 10k player.

But if it's going to be Ipswich then the fat Porn star is going to have to do better than that!

That 300k for copps is not looking as laughable at the moment either. I'd imagine copps terrible performances pre and post SOD have put an end to any interest in him been revived.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: The Red Baron on October 28, 2011, 07:40:22 am
Quote from: \"mushRTID\" post=194808
He is going to go, you can't half a wage bill and keep a 10k player.

But if it's going to be Ipswich then the fat Porn star is going to have to do better than that!

That 300k for copps is not looking as laughable at the moment either. I'd imagine copps terrible performances pre and post SOD have put an end to any interest in him been revived.


I agree he'll go- if not in the January window then in the close season. However, I doubt we'll let him go for peanuts- which is what the figure in the article represents.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on October 28, 2011, 07:59:52 am
I believe he'll go if we don't start performing and I wouldn't blame him.  I was all for selling him at 3M in the summer and still believe that's a good fee for him if it means we can invest in a few others....
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: mushRTID on October 28, 2011, 08:07:13 am
Can't see us getting much more than 2m now we've announced our situation to the world.

Will be gutted seeing him go mental after scoring for someone else but I wouldn't blame him for going either.

Here's a question. Had he gone for 3m, would recent events have happened?
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Filo on October 28, 2011, 08:17:01 am
Don`t worry about Ipswich, he`s going to Southampton
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: DearneValleyRover on October 28, 2011, 08:32:07 am
Quote from: \"Filo\" post=194818
Don`t worry about Ipswich, he`s going to Southampton


I've heard that too also both Billys' and his parents have put their houses up for sale (again only something I heard not fact) £3m+ apparently.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: roverssam1879 on October 28, 2011, 10:06:38 am
Would hate to see billy go anywhere, but if taht is to be the case we should be demanding 3 million or more.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: MrFrost on October 28, 2011, 10:15:07 am
I wonder if the money will be put back into the squad. Somehow I doubt it. And who will replace him?
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: RUPRECHT on October 28, 2011, 10:22:31 am
£2.5m minimum, if we get that and he wants out - let him go.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: prince on October 28, 2011, 10:31:09 am
Yeah, if he goes we may as well give it up and get ready for League 1. We don't score without him.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: not on facebook on October 28, 2011, 10:51:48 am
for sale a billy sharp signed rovers shirt any offers?
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: jonnydog on October 28, 2011, 11:33:31 am
If he wants to go then let him. No one is worth keeping if they don't want to be kept.

If he wants to stay, then great. If he wants to go then there will plenty other strikers to buy with the money im sure.

Positive Positive Positive... No matter what happens!!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Muttley on October 28, 2011, 11:56:55 am
Quote from: \"MrFrost\" post=194840
I wonder if the money will be put back into the squad. Somehow I doubt it.


Agreed, I expect Jon, Dick and Terry would offset the £3m against this year's \"shortfall\" and replace Billy with one of Willy McKay's All Stars.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: grayx on October 28, 2011, 12:26:50 pm
Quote from: \", I expect Jon, Dick and Terry would offset the £3m against this year's \"shortfall\" and replace Billy with one of Willy McKay's All Stars.[/quote


I fear you may be right.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: ditch_drfc on October 28, 2011, 12:30:18 pm
Quote from: \"prince\" post=194842
Yeah, if he goes we may as well give it up and get ready for League 1. We don't score without him.


To be fair at the moment we don't score with him. Granted he scored against blackpool, but he's been off his game since being back from injury.

Maybe it's because there is no one to feed the ball to him, i don't know. But i would miss him if he went.

But in all honesty, i don't think he will just yet. We need to agree the sale, why would we get rid of him when we're in a bad position?
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Rovers Return on October 28, 2011, 12:30:32 pm
Quote from: \"Muttley\" post=194855
Quote from: \"MrFrost\" post=194840
I wonder if the money will be put back into the squad. Somehow I doubt it.


Agreed, I expect Jon, Dick and Terry would offset the £3m against this year's \"shortfall\" and replace Billy with one of Willy McKay's All Stars.




Good business sense:(
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: prince on October 28, 2011, 12:57:34 pm
Quote from: \"ditch_drfc\" post=194861
Quote from: \"prince\" post=194842
Yeah, if he goes we may as well give it up and get ready for League 1. We don't score without him.


To be fair at the moment we don't score with him. Granted he scored against blackpool, but he's been off his game since being back from injury.

Maybe it's because there is no one to feed the ball to him, i don't know. But i would miss him if he went.

But in all honesty, i don't think he will just yet. We need to agree the sale, why would we get rid of him when we're in a bad position?


Goal:Game ration in the league this season;

With Sharp: 7 in 7

Without: 1 in 6.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: steve@dcfd on October 28, 2011, 01:08:37 pm
Where is Billy and will he play tomorrow?
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: dumbroofer on October 28, 2011, 01:28:12 pm
the keepmoat 3 stumped up to get billy ,so if sold, that outlay would be imo recouped, then any profit made, be used to offset the shortfall,can't see any problem with that.
needs must and all that.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: smitiai on October 28, 2011, 02:14:10 pm
F@ck a brick

Doncaster are loosing the plot. I love the club but wrong decisions IMO are being made at the moment.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Filo on October 28, 2011, 02:17:27 pm
Quote from: \"smitiai\" post=194885
F@ck a brick

Doncaster are loosing the plot. I love the club but wrong decisions IMO are being made at the moment.



By that, I take it it is true that a sale to Southampton has been agreed?
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: smitiai on October 28, 2011, 02:22:09 pm
Filo I will be 100% honest, I don't know the full extent but things are afoot so I'm told.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Mr1Croft on October 28, 2011, 02:25:29 pm
This will really be the test of Dean Saunders imo, at Wrexham he was used to offers like 20k being a huge amount of money.

The rest of the squad probably aren't worth anything over a million and in truth £1.5 million for Billy is a very fair amount; in all fairness for what he has done for the £1.15 million we spent I'm still waiting for it to pay off, his wages included any offer above £1.5 Million will have the Board of Director's wondering whether to cut their losses and let him leave, because with all the publicity of Mckay shouting that we are cutting the wage bill I doubt we'll see an offer higher than £2.5 million.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Norfolk N Chance on October 28, 2011, 02:26:12 pm
Quote from: \"dumbroofer\" post=194875
the keepmoat 3 stumped up to get billy ,so if sold, that outlay would be imo recouped, then any profit made, be used to offset the shortfall,can't see any problem with that.
needs must and all that.


agreed ....again if you want to get your anger out take out on the apathy of the surrounding public
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: mushRTID on October 28, 2011, 02:28:50 pm
I will be gutted. Nevermind all the kids who idolise him.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: MrFrost on October 28, 2011, 02:31:11 pm
That apathy will never change. Begs the question why we signed him in the first place. The directors must have seen and predicted the loss of money year in year out.
Without Billy we will not score enough goals to keep us up. I don't see any strikers of his quality coming in to fill his position, even with McKays contacts.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Filo on October 28, 2011, 02:31:52 pm
Quote from: \"smitiai\" post=194890
Filo I will be 100% honest, I don't know the full extent but things are afoot so I'm told.


A taxi driver gets told all sorts of things, we`re like agony aunts, but the word I got last night whilst working was that we had agreed to sell him to Southampton, at his request, and that his house in Dore has gone on the market this week!
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: MrFrost on October 28, 2011, 02:34:48 pm
Anyone else feel that the heart is being ripped out of DRFC?
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: prince on October 28, 2011, 02:36:43 pm
Quote from: \"MrFrost\" post=194899
Anyone else feel that the heart is being ripped out of DRFC?


It's either the heart or any hope of Championship survival.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Norfolk N Chance on October 28, 2011, 02:36:55 pm
Quote from: \"MrFrost\" post=194896
That apathy will never change. Begs the question why we signed him in the first place. The directors must have seen and predicted the loss of money year in year out.
Without Billy we will not score enough goals to keep us up. I don't see any strikers of his quality coming in to fill his position, even with McKays contacts.


So the public get the team they deserve ?

They have had 4 years to buy into the dream and they dont they rather f**k off to leeds and sheffield!

So if you were losing millions a year what would you do?

Truth hurts!
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: mushRTID on October 28, 2011, 02:37:02 pm
Quote from: \"Filo\" post=194897
Quote from: \"smitiai\" post=194890
Filo I will be 100% honest, I don't know the full extent but things are afoot so I'm told.


A taxi driver gets told all sorts of things, we`re like agony aunts, but the word I got last night whilst working was that we had agreed to sell him to Southampton, at his request, and that his house in Dore has gone on the market this week!


Did Billy build his house?
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: MrFrost on October 28, 2011, 02:40:15 pm
Quote from: \"Norfolk N Chance\" post=194901
Quote from: \"MrFrost\" post=194896
That apathy will never change. Begs the question why we signed him in the first place. The directors must have seen and predicted the loss of money year in year out.
Without Billy we will not score enough goals to keep us up. I don't see any strikers of his quality coming in to fill his position, even with McKays contacts.


So the public get the team they deserve ?

They have had 4 years to but in the dream and they dont they rather f**k off to leeds and sheffield!

So if you were losing millions a year what would you do?

Truth hurts!


If I had the money Watson and Bramall have then I wouldn't give a toss what I was losing.
Those in Doncaster who support Wednesday and Leeds aren't suddenly going to change their team just because Donny are now competeing in the Championship.
Maybe if we had a decent marketing and ticketing strategy things wouldn't be as bad as they are.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: mushRTID on October 28, 2011, 02:42:29 pm
Quote from: \"MrFrost\" post=194903
Quote from: \"Norfolk N Chance\" post=194901
Quote from: \"MrFrost\" post=194896
That apathy will never change. Begs the question why we signed him in the first place. The directors must have seen and predicted the loss of money year in year out.
Without Billy we will not score enough goals to keep us up. I don't see any strikers of his quality coming in to fill his position, even with McKays contacts.


So the public get the team they deserve ?

They have had 4 years to but in the dream and they dont they rather f**k off to leeds and sheffield!

So if you were losing millions a year what would you do?

Truth hurts!


If I had the money Watson and Bramall have then I wouldn't give a toss what I was losing.
Those in Doncaster who support Wednesday and Leeds aren't suddenly going to change their team just because Donny are now competeing in the Championship.
Maybe if we had a decent marketing and ticketing strategy things wouldn't be as bad as they are.


I completely agree. Building the fanbase was always going to be a long process. Look at all the kids who go now. In 10, 15, 20 years time we could easily get crowds of 20k with the right marketing and ticket pricing obviously. We just have to be patient.

All this SOD, McKay and Billy (if true) just looks like were panicking.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Pintolager on October 28, 2011, 02:47:02 pm
I know this will have been answered before, but do the Blunts have a sell on clause?

It is inevitable that Sharp will leave for another club somewhere, but all with what is happening at the moment at the club, it does seem harder to take for me. Oh well....business is business....
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Norfolk N Chance on October 28, 2011, 02:54:00 pm
Quote from: \"mushRTID\" post=194904
Quote from: \"MrFrost\" post=194903
Quote from: \"Norfolk N Chance\" post=194901
Quote from: \"MrFrost\" post=194896
That apathy will never change. Begs the question why we signed him in the first place. The directors must have seen and predicted the loss of money year in year out.
Without Billy we will not score enough goals to keep us up. I don't see any strikers of his quality coming in to fill his position, even with McKays contacts.


So the public get the team they deserve ?

They have had 4 years to but in the dream and they dont they rather f**k off to leeds and sheffield!

So if you were losing millions a year what would you do?

Truth hurts!


If I had the money Watson and Bramall have then I wouldn't give a toss what I was losing.
Those in Doncaster who support Wednesday and Leeds aren't suddenly going to change their team just because Donny are now competeing in the Championship.
Maybe if we had a decent marketing and ticketing strategy things wouldn't be as bad as they are.


I completely agree. Building the fanbase was always going to be a long process. Look at all the kids who go now. In 10, 15, 20 years time we could easily get crowds of 20k with the right marketing and ticket pricing obviously. We just have to be patient.

All this SOD, McKay and Billy (if true) just looks like were panicking.



We have had community projects in schools for a decade and the amount of free tickets game in and game out is remarkable!

The simple fact is the leeds/ sheffield fan wont let their off spring support their local team and off course the impact of the premiership.....

So we lose millions a year what would you do? Particularly if you are JR who is the only fan within the board in my opinion ....how the f**k can you convince anyone to buy in to the existing business model?
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Norfolk N Chance on October 28, 2011, 02:57:33 pm
Another casing point tomorrow is family day yet the crowd figures are appalling cos;-
1) people wont come unless we win
2) rather have a toss over live football on tv
3) or rather pay and support some daft local team
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: MrFrost on October 28, 2011, 02:58:28 pm
Quote from: \"Norfolk N Chance\" post=194910
Quote from: \"mushRTID\" post=194904
Quote from: \"MrFrost\" post=194903
Quote from: \"Norfolk N Chance\" post=194901
Quote from: \"MrFrost\" post=194896
That apathy will never change. Begs the question why we signed him in the first place. The directors must have seen and predicted the loss of money year in year out.
Without Billy we will not score enough goals to keep us up. I don't see any strikers of his quality coming in to fill his position, even with McKays contacts.


So the public get the team they deserve ?

They have had 4 years to but in the dream and they dont they rather f**k off to leeds and sheffield!

So if you were losing millions a year what would you do?

Truth hurts!


If I had the money Watson and Bramall have then I wouldn't give a toss what I was losing.
Those in Doncaster who support Wednesday and Leeds aren't suddenly going to change their team just because Donny are now competeing in the Championship.
Maybe if we had a decent marketing and ticketing strategy things wouldn't be as bad as they are.


I completely agree. Building the fanbase was always going to be a long process. Look at all the kids who go now. In 10, 15, 20 years time we could easily get crowds of 20k with the right marketing and ticket pricing obviously. We just have to be patient.

All this SOD, McKay and Billy (if true) just looks like were panicking.



We have had community projects in schools for a decade and the amount of free tickets game in and game out is remarkable!

The simple fact is the leeds/ sheffield fan wont let their off spring support their local team and off course the impact of the premiership.....

So we lose millions a year what would you do? Particularly if you are JR who is the only fan within the board in my opinion ....how the f**k can you convince anyone to buy in to the existing business model?


Ok. Its clear that we can't sustain football at this level.
Lets go down to League One and never aim to get any higher, because it is obvious we cannot compete.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: drfc1951 on October 28, 2011, 02:59:54 pm
Quote from: \"Filo\" post=194897
Quote from: \"smitiai\" post=194890
Filo I will be 100% honest, I don't know the full extent but things are afoot so I'm told.


A taxi driver gets told all sorts of things, we`re like agony aunts, but the word I got last night whilst working was that we had agreed to sell him to Southampton, at his request, and that his house in Dore has gone on the market this week!


Just because you got told something last night driving a taxi makes it true.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Filo on October 28, 2011, 03:09:04 pm
Quote from: \"drfc1951\" post=194914
Quote from: \"Filo\" post=194897
Quote from: \"smitiai\" post=194890
Filo I will be 100% honest, I don't know the full extent but things are afoot so I'm told.


A taxi driver gets told all sorts of things, we`re like agony aunts, but the word I got last night whilst working was that we had agreed to sell him to Southampton, at his request, and that his house in Dore has gone oDn the market this week!


Just because you got told something last night driving a taxi makes it true.
Did I say it made it true? Only time will tell!
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: mushRTID on October 28, 2011, 03:11:07 pm
Quote from: \"Norfolk N Chance\" post=194911
Another casing point tomorrow is family day yet the crowd figures are appalling cos;-
1) people wont come unless we win
2) rather have a toss over live football on tv
3) or rather pay and support some daft local team


Tomorrow is family day?
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: The Red Baron on October 28, 2011, 03:14:40 pm
Quote from: \"Filo\" post=194897
Quote from: \"smitiai\" post=194890
Filo I will be 100% honest, I don't know the full extent but things are afoot so I'm told.


A taxi driver gets told all sorts of things, we`re like agony aunts, but the word I got last night whilst working was that we had agreed to sell him to Southampton, at his request, and that his house in Dore has gone on the market this week!


Not doubting what you've heard, Filo, but Billy himself turned down the chance to move to Southampton in the summer. The Board had accepted their offer (£2.6M from memory). So why the change of heart?
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: The L J Monk on October 28, 2011, 03:18:13 pm
Quote from: \"The Red Baron\" post=194920
Not doubting what you've heard, Filo, but Billy himself turned down the chance to move to Southampton in the summer. The Board had accepted their offer (£2.6M from memory). So why the change of heart?


They're top of the league now and Billy might see them as a realistic route to the Premier League.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: prince on October 28, 2011, 03:18:55 pm
Quote from: \"The Red Baron\" post=194920
Quote from: \"Filo\" post=194897
Quote from: \"smitiai\" post=194890
Filo I will be 100% honest, I don't know the full extent but things are afoot so I'm told.


A taxi driver gets told all sorts of things, we`re like agony aunts, but the word I got last night whilst working was that we had agreed to sell him to Southampton, at his request, and that his house in Dore has gone on the market this week!


Not doubting what you've heard, Filo, but Billy himself turned down the chance to move to Southampton in the summer. The Board had accepted their offer (£2.6M from memory). So why the change of heart?


We've replaced the manager he signed for and enjoyed working under for a non league manager who likes hoofball.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on October 28, 2011, 03:19:12 pm
cuz were bottom of leauge southampton are near top best reason there is
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: roverssam1879 on October 28, 2011, 03:20:55 pm
Quote from: \"Filo\" post=194917
Quote from: \"drfc1951\" post=194914
Quote from: \"Filo\" post=194897
Quote from: \"smitiai\" post=194890
Filo I will be 100% honest, I don't know the full extent but things are afoot so I'm told.


A taxi driver gets told all sorts of things, we`re like agony aunts, but the word I got last night whilst working was that we had agreed to sell him to Southampton, at his request, and that his house in Dore has gone oDn the market this week!


Just because you got told something last night driving a taxi makes it true.
Did I say it made it true? Only time will tell!






from what i have been told his house isnt up for sale,or not yet at least ( i have friends that live on the street)


however that doesnt determin his future at the club, unfortunatly
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: DRFCBRADFORD on October 28, 2011, 03:40:01 pm
if billy does not replies to the tweets rovers fans have sent him he is off shame.He only signed for us due to giving him 1st team football , SOD being the manager and he liked the way we played football .I think the leeds game was the final straw ,SOD had gone saunders came in and started playin hoof ball ,he left blunts due to them playing hoofball.
I also think saunders has lost the plot already and the dressing room .
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: DearneValleyRover on October 28, 2011, 03:53:26 pm
Quote from: \"Filo\" post=194917
Quote from: \"drfc1951\" post=194914
Quote from: \"Filo\" post=194897
Quote from: \"smitiai\" post=194890
Filo I will be 100% honest, I don't know the full extent but things are afoot so I'm told.


A taxi driver gets told all sorts of things, we`re like agony aunts, but the word I got last night whilst working was that we had agreed to sell him to Southampton, at his request, and that his house in Dore has gone oDn the market this week!


Just because you got told something last night driving a taxi makes it true.
Did I say it made it true? Only time will tell!


I'm not a Taxi Driver but was told the same thing before SO'D was sacked, I took it with a pinch of salt at the time but since another source seems to comfirm it.......
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: smitiai on October 28, 2011, 03:59:45 pm
Maybe Billy does not like the current management !

McKay is killing our club.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: DearneValleyRover on October 28, 2011, 04:01:02 pm
Quote from: \"smitiai\" post=194930
Maybe Billy does not like the current management !

McKay is killing our club.


He was leaving before McKay so how does that work?
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: steve@dcfd on October 28, 2011, 04:27:46 pm
Why would Billy not be training Thursday and Friday is he ill or injured?
Could there be any truth in the rumours?
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: VikingJames on October 28, 2011, 04:41:09 pm
If John Ryan wants us to 'fight tooth and nail' to stay in the Championship, his next logical step wouldn't be to sell our best player, would it?

I'm not saying it won't happen, but I won't be panicking over a bit of speculation.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: drfc1951 on October 28, 2011, 04:41:39 pm
Quote from: \"MrFrost\" post=194912
Quote from: \"Norfolk N Chance\" post=194910
Quote from: \"mushRTID\" post=194904
Quote from: \"MrFrost\" post=194903
Quote from: \"Norfolk N Chance\" post=194901
Quote from: \"MrFrost\" post=194896
That apathy will never change. Begs the question why we signed him in the first place. The directors must have seen and predicted the loss of money year in year out.
Without Billy we will not score enough goals to keep us up. I don't see any strikers of his quality coming in to fill his position, even with McKays contacts.


So the public get the team they deserve ?

They have had 4 years to but in the dream and they dont they rather f**k off to leeds and sheffield!

So if you were losing millions a year what would you do?

Truth hurts!


If I had the money Watson and Bramall have then I wouldn't give a toss what I was losing.
Those in Doncaster who support Wednesday and Leeds aren't suddenly going to change their team just because Donny are now competeing in the Championship.
Maybe if we had a decent marketing and ticketing strategy things wouldn't be as bad as they are.


I completely agree. Building the fanbase was always going to be a long process. Look at all the kids who go now. In 10, 15, 20 years time we could easily get crowds of 20k with the right marketing and ticket pricing obviously. We just have to be patient.

All this SOD, McKay and Billy (if true) just looks like were panicking.



We have had community projects in schools for a decade and the amount of free tickets game in and game out is remarkable!

The simple fact is the leeds/ sheffield fan wont let their off spring support their local team and off course the impact of the premiership.....

So we lose millions a year what would you do? Particularly if you are JR who is the only fan within the board in my opinion ....how the f**k can you convince anyone to buy in to the existing business model?


Ok. Its clear that we can't sustain football at this level.
Lets go down to League One and never aim to get any higher, because it is obvious we cannot compete.


Yes lets go down to league one and have no ambiton to go higher, that will certainly encourage the youngsters to support us.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: MrFrost on October 28, 2011, 04:44:56 pm
What other option is there? We cannot sustain a Championship club with our attendances. We are about to sell our prized assets and pin Championship survival on a bunch of fly by night players.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: DearneValleyRover on October 28, 2011, 04:47:27 pm
Quote from: \"steve@dcfd\" post=194943
Why would Billy not be training Thursday and Friday is he ill or injured?
Could there be any truth in the rumours?


I was told January as Southampton had met what the board wanted and that Billy wouldn't be behind Lambert as he is likely to be off to the Prem, hence the renewed dialogue after turning them down. As to him not training I doubt it's no more serious than catching the bug that's flying round at present.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: VikingJames on October 28, 2011, 04:53:09 pm
Quote from: \"MrFrost\" post=194953
What other option is there? We cannot sustain a Championship club with our attendances. We are about to sell our prized assets and pin Championship survival on a bunch of fly by night players.


Seems like a bit of a sweeping assumption. I'm not sure that's exactly what's going to happen.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: DearneValleyRover on October 28, 2011, 05:05:14 pm
Billy has an activation clause in his contract that means if a club meet his valuation (which one has) and Billy agrees the move DRFC have absolutely no control over the matter. It isn't the club that want to sell but rather are in a position in which they have no choice. I was told that the stumbling block on the original enquiry was Lambert I've since been told that block isn't going to be there in Jan.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: grayx on October 28, 2011, 06:43:42 pm
Quote from: \"DearneValleyRover\" post=194958
Billy has an activation clause in his contract that means if a club meet his valuation (which one has) and Billy agrees the move DRFC have absolutely no control over the matter. It isn't the club that want to sell but rather are in a position in which they have no choice. I was told that the stumbling block on the original enquiry was Lambert I've since been told that block isn't going to be there in Jan.


That sounds very believable. Billy likes red & white stripes as well.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: DRFCBRADFORD on October 28, 2011, 07:13:46 pm
Quote from: \"steve@dcfd\" post=194943
Why would Billy not be training Thursday and Friday is he ill or injured?
Could there be any truth in the rumours?


where has this info come from he hasnt been training thurs and fri?
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: benaldo on October 28, 2011, 07:17:42 pm
Who knows what will happen? It's a transition period for Rovers right now. Some think it's exciting (me included), others think the world has ended. God, I remember being beside myself when Paul Barnes left belle vue, but things move on. ps, for those who don't know, he was the most consistant striker in the last many many years. And a complete legend. His goals got us out of the conference. Fact! Then look what happened.

Billy Sharp leaving will not be the end of the world. Trust me.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: wilts rover on October 28, 2011, 07:18:11 pm
If he does go I wish him well, can't fault anything he has done for us in the past 2 and half years and he is bound to double if not treble his wages - plus get a shot at playing in the Premiership. I just wonder though ife he was wavering about the deal - how much the abuse he got on Twitter a couple of weeks ago about the derby game might have swayed his mind?
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: NickDRFC on October 28, 2011, 07:39:11 pm
Quote from: \"benaldo\" post=194968
Who knows what will happen? It's a transition period for Rovers right now. Some think it's exciting (me included), others think the world has ended. God, I remember being beside myself when Paul Barnes left belle vue, but things move on. ps, for those who don't know, he was the most consistant striker in the last many many years. And a complete legend. His goals got us out of the conference. Fact! Then look what happened.

Billy Sharp leaving will not be the end of the world. Trust me.


Not sure about Barnes bring the most consistent striker of recent years to be honest benaldo, for every goal he got he missed at least one or two others. Big fan of Big Barnesey and his goals played a big part in getting us put of the conference but I'd argue that Heffs, Sharp, perhaps even Blundell were more consistent for us and more effective.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: bobbymax on October 28, 2011, 07:51:38 pm
Talk about adding up two and two and making five. This forum resembles nothing more than a party can of paranoia nowadays. I've even read somewhere that because BS hasn't replied to a tweet confirms he's off. FSS, some people need to start living in the real world.:headbang:
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: benaldo on October 28, 2011, 07:57:20 pm
Quote from: \"NickDRFC\" post=194972
Quote from: \"benaldo\" post=194968
Who knows what will happen? It's a transition period for Rovers right now. Some think it's exciting (me included), others think the world has ended. God, I remember being beside myself when Paul Barnes left belle vue, but things move on. ps, for those who don't know, he was the most consistant striker in the last many many years. And a complete legend. His goals got us out of the conference. Fact! Then look what happened.

Billy Sharp leaving will not be the end of the world. Trust me.


Not sure about Barnes bring the most consistent striker of recent years to be honest benaldo, for every goal he got he missed at least one or two others. Big fan of Big Barnesey and his goals played a big part in getting us put of the conference but I'd argue that Heffs, Sharp, perhaps even Blundell were more consistent for us and more effective.



EH?????!!

Paul Barnes scored more goals for Rovers over a shorter period than Blundell and Heffernan! In fact, I think I'm right in saying that he was the last person to have two seasons back to back anywhere near 20 goals each season??!

It doesn't matter how many goals you miss if you are still scoring more than anyone else, surely!?
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Wellred on October 28, 2011, 08:06:10 pm
4 pages of absolute b******s
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Red wizard on October 28, 2011, 08:07:23 pm
Barnes only got 31 goals total. Good player mind.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: DearneValleyRover on October 28, 2011, 08:12:17 pm
Quote from: \"Wellred\" post=194976
4 pages of absolute b******s


And you know everything?
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Wellred on October 28, 2011, 08:17:25 pm
Didn't say I did. I heard if Billy is sold John Ryan is making a comeback until the end of the season in order to reduce the wage bill.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: NickDRFC on October 28, 2011, 08:19:07 pm
Quote from: \"benaldo\" post=194975
Quote from: \"NickDRFC\" post=194972
Quote from: \"benaldo\" post=194968
Who knows what will happen? It's a transition period for Rovers right now. Some think it's exciting (me included), others think the world has ended. God, I remember being beside myself when Paul Barnes left belle vue, but things move on. ps, for those who don't know, he was the most consistant striker in the last many many years. And a complete legend. His goals got us out of the conference. Fact! Then look what happened.

Billy Sharp leaving will not be the end of the world. Trust me.


Not sure about Barnes bring the most consistent striker of recent years to be honest benaldo, for every goal he got he missed at least one or two others. Big fan of Big Barnesey and his goals played a big part in getting us put of the conference but I'd argue that Heffs, Sharp, perhaps even Blundell were more consistent for us and more effective.



EH?????!!

Paul Barnes scored more goals for Rovers over a shorter period than Blundell and Heffernan! In fact, I think I'm right in saying that he was the last person to have two seasons back to back anywhere near 20 goals each season??!

It doesn't matter how many goals you miss if you are still scoring more than anyone else, surely!?


Not disputing he did a great job for us, not sure he had a back to back record like you say though. He may have got 20 the year we went up. However, he missed an awful lot of chances, and I would wager big money that had we signed Blundell at the start of the season he'd have got 30. But I guess we'll never know.

As an aside, one of my saddest moments as a Rovers fan was that tremendous comeback at Cambridge, stormed back from 3-0 to 3-3 when an injury time penalty gives us a chance for the icing on the cake. Barnes steps up; time for a well deserved first football league goal for Rovers, but then he missed it! And then got shipped out to Tamworth a few days later.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: ravenrover on October 28, 2011, 08:21:19 pm
Quote from: \"VikingJames\" post=194951
If John Ryan wants us to 'fight tooth and nail' to stay in the Championship, his next logical step wouldn't be to sell our best player, would it?

I'm not saying it won't happen, but I won't be panicking over a bit of speculation.


Sorry but when did Billy become our best player? He scores a few goals, fouls a few players, gives free kicks away left right and centre and gets the mard on so does that make hime our \"best player\"?. Far from our \"best player\" in my opinion,and at the moment you have to question whether he is our best goal scorer :chair:
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: RoversAlias on October 28, 2011, 08:45:05 pm
I think we should get Paul Barnes back if Sharp heads off next week. What harm could it do? ;)
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: steve@dcfd on October 28, 2011, 09:12:16 pm
Quote from: \"DRFCBRADFORD\" post=194967
Quote from: \"steve@dcfd\" post=194943
Why would Billy not be training Thursday and Friday is he ill or injured?
Could there be any truth in the rumours?


where has this info come from he hasnt been training thurs and fri?


If you'd gone down to the park thurs/ Friday you would have a big surprise.
If you'd gone down to the park Thurs/ Friday  you would never believe your eyes.
All the squad was training there.
Where was Billy, it could be a scare.


I walk past the training ground and Thursday and Friday aswell as last Monday Billy was no where to be seen. He could be illl or injured but he was not training.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: drfc1951 on October 28, 2011, 09:19:22 pm
Quote from: \"DRFCBRADFORD\" post=194926
if billy does not replies to the tweets rovers fans have sent him he is off shame.He only signed for us due to giving him 1st team football , SOD being the manager and he liked the way we played football .I think the leeds game was the final straw ,SOD had gone saunders came in and started playin hoof ball ,he left blunts due to them playing hoofball.
I also think saunders has lost the plot already and the dressing room .


Unbelievable,what a load of b*llocks.We resorted to the long ball against Leeds, because our midfield couldnt create anything by passing on the ground.
how many times did Sharp have a hissy fit last season when things didnt go the way he wanted.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Draytonian III on October 28, 2011, 10:26:12 pm
Players will always leave football clubs,fact. Anyone who is employed and offered better money/wages for doing the same job elsewhere will leave.The only loyal thing about a football club is it,s CORE support. A loyal player now is one that stops 3 seasons . 30 years ago a loyal player was one that stopped 10 years.Not that I want Billy to leave as I rate him the 3rd best goalscorer in my time supporting Rovers ,behind Peter Kitchen and Colin Cramb . A forum is about opinions
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Jonathan on October 29, 2011, 07:49:39 am
I don't think Billy will be the only one to leave.

Whether you're in favour of the changes or against them, nobody can deny that certain consequences will arise as a result. Some will say the departure of current players is a good thing, some will say they are paid well by the club so shouldn't have an opinion on the direction it's taking as they are well remunerated to put up with it. Fact is there are players to whom football matters as well as money.

I don't think Billy will leave us just for the money, if that was all he was after he would never have signed. And that is a fact.

I'm fed up with hearing and reading the continually shifting reasons for (and conditions of) the changes we are putting in place. The goalposts move every few days each time something else needs to be justified.

May as well just wait and see what happens for now. Personally I'm finding it hard to feel much for the club at the moment, at least until I have some idea what we're actually trying to do.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Spud on October 29, 2011, 08:13:50 am
Sean built a team of footballers, at the min we`re playing hoofball therefore i wouldn`t be surprised to see any or all of the current team looking for pastures new. quality players such as Billy, Oster and Stock look like fish out of water, not sure wtf they`re supposed to be doing.
Jonathan i know exactly how you feel, your post on another thread the other day summed up my sentiments to a tee, maybe it`s inevitable that the bigger a club gets the less intimate it will feel to the core support. As a season ticket holder i`m not sure i can even be bothered going today tho i probably will.
I look forward to us actually playing football again hopefully soon, unfortunately in these times business decisions come before football decisions :-(
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Wellred on October 29, 2011, 08:50:58 am
Quote from: \"Spud\" post=195017
Sean built a team of footballers, at the min we`re playing hoofball therefore i wouldn`t be surprised to see any or all of the current team looking for pastures new. quality players such as Billy, Oster and Stock look like fish out of water, not sure wtf they`re supposed to be doing.
Jonathan i know exactly how you feel, your post on another thread the other day summed up my sentiments to a tee, maybe it`s inevitable that the bigger a club gets the less intimate it will feel to the core support. As a season ticket holder i`m not sure i can even be bothered going today tho i probably will.
I look forward to us actually playing football again hopefully soon, unfortunately in these times business decisions come before football decisions :-(


Unbelievable. Where are we supposed to be playing all this \"hoofball\" you refer to? We didn't play it in the 2nd half of the Palace game. We didn't play it in the 2nd half of the Hull game. We certainly didn't play it at Peterborough or Blackpool. We were beaten by a far better team when we played Leeds and we were rubbish and we were beaten at Portsmouth by a team who wanted it more than us and a defence that couldn't defend properly.

Tell me how these \"quality players\" managed to get us to the bottom of the table and not win a game for 19 matches.

Yes Billy will go at some point and I hope we get decent money for him, not the peanuts that Ipswich are talking about.
Stock and Oster? Don't make me laugh nobody is going to pay a penny for either of them.

You know what. Reading your post anyone would think you would prefer it if we actually didn't win today.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Filo on October 29, 2011, 09:01:23 am
Quote from: \"Jonathan\" post=195012
I don't think Billy will be the only one to leave.

Whether you're in favour of the changes or against them, nobody can deny that certain consequences will arise as a result. Some will say the departure of current players is a good thing, some will say they are paid well by the club so shouldn't have an opinion on the direction it's taking as they are well remunerated to put up with it. Fact is there are players to whom football matters as well as money.

I don't think Billy will leave us just for the money, if that was all he was after he would never have signed. And that is a fact.

I'm fed up with hearing and reading the continually shifting reasons for (and conditions of) the changes we are putting in place. The goalposts move every few days each time something else needs to be justified.

May as well just wait and see what happens for now. Personally I'm finding it hard to feel much for the club at the moment, at least until I have some idea what we're actually trying to do.


My sentiments as well!
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: drfc1951 on October 29, 2011, 09:31:04 am
Quote from: \"Filo\" post=195023
Quote from: \"Jonathan\" post=195012
I don't think Billy will be the only one to leave.

Whether you're in favour of the changes or against them, nobody can deny that certain consequences will arise as a result. Some will say the departure of current players is a good thing, some will say they are paid well by the club so shouldn't have an opinion on the direction it's taking as they are well remunerated to put up with it. Fact is there are players to whom football matters as well as money.

I don't think Billy will leave us just for the money, if that was all he was after he would never have signed. And that is a fact.

I'm fed up with hearing and reading the continually shifting reasons for (and conditions of) the changes we are putting in place. The goalposts move every few days each time something else needs to be justified.

May as well just wait and see what happens for now. Personally I'm finding it hard to feel much for the club at the moment, at least until I have some idea what we're actually trying to do.


Come back Ken we need you.

My sentiments as well!
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: prince on October 29, 2011, 09:49:16 am
Why do we have to let him go for so cheap, apart from being massive mugs? I can't imagine many other teams would let a 24 year old, 20 goal a season striker go for less than £4million tbh.

Now we are apparently going to accept £1.5mil? We paid £1.3 when he was an unproven winger at Sheffield United.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Snods Shinpad 2 on October 29, 2011, 09:53:46 am
(http://i39.tinypic.com/5tt5ae.jpg)

Leaked pic of the Sharp contract negotiations, in a sleazy motel near Junction 53.
© The Sun
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Filo on October 29, 2011, 09:54:37 am
Quote from: \"prince\" post=195032
Why do we have to let him go for so cheap, apart from being massive mugs? I can't imagine many other teams would let a 24 year old, 20 goal a season striker go for less than £4million tbh.

Now we are apparently going to accept £1.5mil? We paid £1.3 when he was an unproven winger at Sheffield United.



We`ve a history of doing it, we sold Brian Deane for £40k to Sheffield United, who then sold him for £2.9M! Mark Rankine and Rufus Brevitt went on the cheap, as did the Snodin`s and more recently Mcindoe
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: prince on October 29, 2011, 10:01:48 am
Maybe the board need to start entering negotiations with a bit more mettle and if they have to sell players, sell them on the valuation of the player, not the club. Might help the debt problem too.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: lee.j09 on October 29, 2011, 10:35:53 am
he hasnt even gone what are u all going on about

think posotive thoughts he will stay
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Wellred on October 29, 2011, 10:38:47 am
You are on the wrong forum mate. Positive thoughts not allowed on here.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Spud on October 29, 2011, 12:38:00 pm
Quote from: \"Wellred\" post=195022
Quote from: \"Spud\" post=195017
Sean built a team of footballers, at the min we`re playing hoofball therefore i wouldn`t be surprised to see any or all of the current team looking for pastures new. quality players such as Billy, Oster and Stock look like fish out of water, not sure wtf they`re supposed to be doing.
Jonathan i know exactly how you feel, your post on another thread the other day summed up my sentiments to a tee, maybe it`s inevitable that the bigger a club gets the less intimate it will feel to the core support. As a season ticket holder i`m not sure i can even be bothered going today tho i probably will.
I look forward to us actually playing football again hopefully soon, unfortunately in these times business decisions come before football decisions :-(


Unbelievable. Where are we supposed to be playing all this \"hoofball\" you refer to? We didn't play it in the 2nd half of the Palace game. We didn't play it in the 2nd half of the Hull game. We certainly didn't play it at Peterborough or Blackpool. We were beaten by a far better team when we played Leeds and we were rubbish and we were beaten at Portsmouth by a team who wanted it more than us and a defence that couldn't defend properly.

Tell me how these \"quality players\" managed to get us to the bottom of the table and not win a game for 19 matches.

Yes Billy will go at some point and I hope we get decent money for him, not the peanuts that Ipswich are talking about.
Stock and Oster? Don't make me laugh nobody is going to pay a penny for either of them.

You know what. Reading your post anyone would think you would prefer it if we actually didn't win today.


If you dont think stock and yes Oster are quality footballers then i`d love to know how long you`ve been watching rovers play?
Yes we`ve been on a bad run and things did need freshening up after punching above our weight for 3 years now.
And dont anyone tell me we desrved to beat a very poor Pace side cos we didn`t. Against Hull admitteldy we were better for parts of the game but not all of it. Cant comment on the away games as i haven`t been to one for a while now but DS admitted we were lucky to beat Posh. Against Leeds we were awful.
Like i said i hope things settle down soon and we get back to playing some form of football, that`s what i go to the Keepmoat for. If results were the be all and end all i`d sit home and watch final score.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: firestarter on October 29, 2011, 12:59:18 pm
Well he is not at the ground today... my son just text t @ay he has all the players except billy arrive...trouble at mill??
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Al4475 on October 29, 2011, 01:16:31 pm
Sharp not in matchday squad. 3 changes, Martis, Naylor and Haytor in the team for Oster, Sharp and Hird.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: MrFrost on October 29, 2011, 01:16:34 pm
Confirmed on Radio Sheff. Doesn't indicate why
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: prince on October 29, 2011, 01:20:15 pm
League 2 here we come
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: ScillyRover on October 29, 2011, 01:22:29 pm
Looking a bit ominous isn't it.. or am I reading into this too much :(
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Filo on October 29, 2011, 01:23:13 pm
Like I said, us taxi drivers find out all sorts!
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: MrFrost on October 29, 2011, 01:26:31 pm
So we've got one striker at the club. Bravo
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Chris on October 29, 2011, 01:28:31 pm
Ouch...
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: JamieM on October 29, 2011, 01:39:45 pm
Looks like he's off then. Ah well, was great while it lasted. I hope we get a decent fee for him in Jan - minimum £2 million, that should give us enough to replace him.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Chris on October 29, 2011, 01:45:34 pm
Quote from: \"JamieM\" post=195087
Looks like he's off then. Ah well, was great while it lasted. I hope we get a decent fee for him in Jan - minimum £2 million, that should give us enough to replace him.


I don't think that any fee will be directly used to replace him. Another one of McKay's \"superstars\" will probably come in for a couple of months.

Exciting times.




:sick:
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: ScillyRover on October 29, 2011, 01:55:12 pm
Player stating the official line is \"Billy's not in the squad for family reasons\".
Make of that what you will
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: idler on October 29, 2011, 06:20:32 pm
I heard that it was due to a bereavement, so maybe it would be better to just stop imagining
everything under the sun. I'm sure that evryone will find out all there is to know eventually.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Wellred on October 29, 2011, 06:24:35 pm
Quote from: \"Spud\" post=195071
Quote from: \"Wellred\" post=195022
Quote from: \"Spud\" post=195017
Sean built a team of footballers, at the min we`re playing hoofball therefore i wouldn`t be surprised to see any or all of the current team looking for pastures new. quality players such as Billy, Oster and Stock look like fish out of water, not sure wtf they`re supposed to be doing.
Jonathan i know exactly how you feel, your post on another thread the other day summed up my sentiments to a tee, maybe it`s inevitable that the bigger a club gets the less intimate it will feel to the core support. As a season ticket holder i`m not sure i can even be bothered going today tho i probably will.
I look forward to us actually playing football again hopefully soon, unfortunately in these times business decisions come before football decisions :-(


Unbelievable. Where are we supposed to be playing all this \"hoofball\" you refer to? We didn't play it in the 2nd half of the Palace game. We didn't play it in the 2nd half of the Hull game. We certainly didn't play it at Peterborough or Blackpool. We were beaten by a far better team when we played Leeds and we were rubbish and we were beaten at Portsmouth by a team who wanted it more than us and a defence that couldn't defend properly.

Tell me how these \"quality players\" managed to get us to the bottom of the table and not win a game for 19 matches.

Yes Billy will go at some point and I hope we get decent money for him, not the peanuts that Ipswich are talking about.
Stock and Oster? Don't make me laugh nobody is going to pay a penny for either of them.

You know what. Reading your post anyone would think you would prefer it if we actually didn't win today.


If you dont think stock and yes Oster are quality footballers then i`d love to know how long you`ve been watching rovers play?
Yes we`ve been on a bad run and things did need freshening up after punching above our weight for 3 years now.
And dont anyone tell me we desrved to beat a very poor Pace side cos we didn`t. Against Hull admitteldy we were better for parts of the game but not all of it. Cant comment on the away games as i haven`t been to one for a while now but DS admitted we were lucky to beat Posh. Against Leeds we were awful.
Like i said i hope things settle down soon and we get back to playing some form of football, that`s what i go to the Keepmoat for. If results were the be all and end all i`d sit home and watch final score.


I would suggest I have been supporting rovers a lot longer than you. Not that it matters. If Stock is a quality player then he certainly didn't show it today!!!!
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Spud on October 30, 2011, 12:27:05 pm
Stock didn`t have a great game today but who did? Doesn`t mean they`re bad players just short of form and consequently confidence. Tbf today we did at least try to play football, albeit with limited success. Have seen much worse, let`s hope Saunders is going the right way.
Title: Re: Ipswich after Billy again
Post by: Colin C No.3 on October 30, 2011, 01:50:04 pm
Quote from: \"oslorovers\" post=194843
for sale a billy sharp signed rovers shirt any offers?


I'll give you £20, which is £19.99 more than you deserve.