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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: roverstillidie91 on August 10, 2012, 05:35:04 pm
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See according to sky news a body has been found and a warrant for stuart hazell's arrest has been issued and has gone missing
If it proves to be Tia which it most likely will be it's so tragic
R.i.p Tia
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Just seen this and yes it is tragic. I also hear he as vanished, if i was a relative he would have to stay invisable!!!!!!! R.I.P Tia.
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How many times now have we seen the distraught relative crying in front of the cameras...only to be convicted further down the line.
Poor little lass....he'd better hope he's never found.
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How many times now have we seen the distraught relative crying in front of the cameras...only to be convicted further down the line.
Poor little lass....he'd better hope he's never found.
It`s a classic investigation tactic by the police, if the suspect is a close reletive then they will try and get them to do the televised appeal, the suspect falls for it because in their mind they think that if they do the appeal then the outside world will think they are not the culprit, police have experts in body language and mannerism`s observing them
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I think it was the moment he said..I 'LOVED' her.. it's the little slip ups that give the bigger game away. poor little girl.
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Hope he rots. People like him should be hung.
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Hope he rots. People like him should be hung.
Correct. Scum of the earth.
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agreed Mr Frost
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Hope he rots. People like him should be hung.
Or even hanged.
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I must have missed the trial for this.
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Publically tried and convicted on this forum - nothing like being guilty until proven innocent
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You can't be serious about that gloster red and L J Monk?!?! You don't need a trial to find out that he's guilty. Complete muppets!
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I look forward to the judicial system adopting the same stance should you ever be charged with a crime.
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You can't be serious about that gloster red and L J Monk?!?! You don't need a trial to find out that he's guilty. Complete muppets!
Total nonsense!
I admit on face value it does look like he`s guilty of the crime, but thankfully we live in a democratic society where every one is entitled to a trial by jury in such serious matters, so, yes you do need a trial, to establish the facts and to establish whether he`s guilty or not, calling some one a muppet because they state an opinion which is actually factual as well is out of order
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You can't be serious about that gloster red and L J Monk?!?! You don't need a trial to find out that he's guilty. Complete muppets!
Didn't know Judge Dredd was a Rovers fan...
It's a sad state of affairs whenever a case like this arises. Both because of the tragic death of a little girl, and also because certain people (usually Sun readers) use such a tragedy to get on their soapbox about capital punishment again.
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You can't be serious about that gloster red and L J Monk?!?! You don't need a trial to find out that he's guilty. Complete muppets!
A complete muppet for believing in the rule of law - guilty as charged! - Can I please have a fair trial - not on this forum obviously
COYR
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You can't be serious about that gloster red and L J Monk?!?! You don't need a trial to find out that he's guilty. Complete muppets!
That is the dumbest statement I have ever seen on this board, and that is saying something.
So we should just condemn people as guilty without examining and scrutinising the evidence? Thank God your view is not shared by those in charge of the world.
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That is the dumbest statement I have ever seen on this board, and that is saying something.
I'd concur with that. Comfortably the most moronic statement I've ever seen on here.
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Are you being serious. Tell me he's not guilty. It doesn't take a jury to figure it out.
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Hope he rots. People like him should be hung.
Or even hanged.
I'd like to point out that I wasn't commenting on the guilt or otherwise of the accused- only that a man is hanged and a picture is hung.
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Are you being serious. Tell me he's not guilty. It doesn't take a jury to figure it out.
I think you should forward all your evidence to the police. It sounds like you've got some pretty important stuff.
Or have you just read the paper and watched the telly?
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Are you being serious. Tell me he's not guilty. It doesn't take a jury to figure it out.
I am being serious - it is not for me or you to convict this man it is for the jury of his peers to do. It is for them to listen to the evidence from both the prosecution and the defence - then weigh up that evidence and make a decision, guilty or not on the evidence they have been presented in court and not what they have seen on TV or read in the paper.
That is how it is done in this country - it is not the wild west we do not form a lynch mob and we do not hang them from the nearest tree - we go through due process in a court of law - the only fair way - for both parties.
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Have i formed a lynch mob? I simply think he's guilty. You're just arguing for the sake of it. I'll say otherwise when it's proven that he isn't. Also thanks for reminding me that this isn't the wild west. Next time i need a reminder on what period in time we're in ill consult a local historian.
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A small point, and pardon me for my pedantry, but the wild west wasnt that local to us really.
Unless it was the wild Westwoodside you were on about.
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I have seen some particularly bizarre things in Westwoodside, but never anyone being lynched in a tree.
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You don't need a trial to find out that he's guilty.
Have i formed a lynch mob? I simply think he's guilty.
No, you said that you don't need a trial to find out that he's guilty.
Unless the judicial system in the UK has changed in the last few days without me noticing, I think you'll find that you *do* need a jury (or judge, depending on the level of court) to find someone guilty.
Observing from a distance, I also think it is quite likely that he is guilty, but I'm willing to allow the wheels of justice to grind out their own conclusion.
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Are you being serious. Tell me he's not guilty. It doesn't take a jury to figure it out.
Even if someone confesses to a crime* surely they still need a Trial involving evidence / proof of that eveidence etc - as someone may have extracted the confession under duress
* PS I am not referring to this "case" itself
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Have i formed a lynch mob? I simply think he's guilty. You're just arguing for the sake of it. I'll say otherwise when it's proven that he isn't. Also thanks for reminding me that this isn't the wild west. Next time i need a reminder on what period in time we're in ill consult a local historian.
Calling me a muppet for believing in the rule of law gives me the right to argue.
I do not believe that I have indicated one way or the other what I feel this man is - guilty or innocent.
As for lynch mob and the wild west - I used it as an example of what this country is not - not what you are.
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You know full well that i didn't mean that i don't believe in the judicial system we have in this country. I do. Im not arguing this just because you feel like an argument
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You make me laugh
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You know full well that i didn't mean that i don't believe in the judicial system we have in this country. I do. Im not arguing this just because you feel like an argument
ditch, you`re letting emotions get in the way of rational thinking, because a young girl has been murdered, I don`t think any one his saying that this bloke did n`t do it, but he`s entitled to a fair trial, sometimes you know the Police do arrest the wrong person when all the evidence appears to point to them, thats why we have a trial and jury system, it`s not infallible, but it`s fairer than the kangaroo court system you appear to favour.
Remember that Woman that got murdered in Bristol around Christmas time the other year? That strange looking School Teacher got arrested for it, the papers had him convicted the day he was arrested, most of the public had him guilty as well because of what they had seen on the news and read in the papers, just because he looked a bit strange. It turns out he was innocent and that Dutch bloke had done it, If we had used your system of justice that bloke would be serving a life sentence now, for a crime he did not commit!
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I do wonder if it was a terrible accident, as I said before the way he referred to her in the past tense wasn't helpful to his situation..
The fact that he was found he was so drunk and yet still saying that he hoped she would come back makes me wonder, I always thought that if a person is heavily under the influence that they are more likely to slip up and tell the truth.
The fact is sadly someone in the family, someone in that house covered up Tia's death, she didn't wrap herself up in a sheet and hide in the attic by herself. It is all to easy to speculate.
At the end of the day I have to come to the conclusion that having too much information in the case of a 24 hour rolling news service isn't always helpful, it does give armchair detectives too much to go on, something each and everyone of us are guilty of at one time or another.
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Absolutely tragic to hear on the news today of the death of Winnie Johnson, mother of Keith Bennett.
All she ever wanted to was to know where her Son was hidden...sadly she'll never get to bury him properly.
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Filo all Im saying is that i think he did it. Course he's entitled to a fair trial, I've never said otherwise. I thoroughly believe in our justice system. Im in no way the kind of person that sits at home and judges people all day long then says they should be hung. Im just stating my opinion that i think he's guilty.
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Filo all Im saying is that i think he did it. Course he's entitled to a fair trial, I've never said otherwise.]/b] I thoroughly believe in our justice system. Im in no way the kind of person that sits at home and judges people all day long then says they should be hung. Im just stating my opinion that i think he's guilty.
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You don't need a trial to find out that he's guilty
I rest my case M`lord ;)