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Title: steve lomas
Post by: RedArmy on January 07, 2013, 12:59:11 pm
emerging as a favourite, thoughts?
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: Lifelong supporter on January 07, 2013, 01:28:47 pm
Lomas would be a great appointment...he's LOST more games than he's won at St Johnstone.
No thanks!
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: coppsisgod on January 07, 2013, 01:30:29 pm
Not very inspiring but were any of us happy with the appointments of DS or SOD at first? I'd be willing to give him a shot. No more ridiculous then the appointment of DS was.
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: roverssam1879 on January 07, 2013, 01:30:55 pm
No thanks! i dont like what i have read about him. :thumbdown:
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: GazLaz on January 07, 2013, 01:32:28 pm
I like the bloke. Gets plenty of touch line bans as well. Heard good things about him, he's worked wonders with St J.
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: KETrover on January 07, 2013, 01:34:21 pm
Worked wonders with SJ? What has he done like?
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: Chris on January 07, 2013, 01:38:17 pm
His conduct on the touchline is worrying. Not another Steve Cotterill?!
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: Donnybax on January 07, 2013, 01:41:56 pm
I like the bloke. Gets plenty of touch line bans as well. Heard good things about him, he's worked wonders with St J.
Thats not a good thing
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: GazLaz on January 07, 2013, 01:49:28 pm
He got them into Europe for a start.
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: MachoMadness on January 07, 2013, 01:53:14 pm
If Steve Lomas won his club art competition, would he win the St Johnstone's Paint Trophy?
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: roverssam1879 on January 07, 2013, 01:53:47 pm
By default of hearts winning the cup.

poor appointment if he gets it. wanted someone a little more exciting and proven than him  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: Donnybax on January 07, 2013, 01:53:59 pm
He got them into Europe for a start.
Thats good but having lots of touchine bans is not
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: KETrover on January 07, 2013, 01:54:27 pm
So he got them to 6th in the league? Great achievement. That got them into the 2nd qualifying round. Which they lost? Dont see that as him 'doing wonders'
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: Derby Viking on January 07, 2013, 01:56:57 pm
Apparently he was the favourite for the Fleetwood job in December before not getting it. Wouldn't be my choice but will support him if he is our next manager
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: Northants Nomad on January 07, 2013, 01:58:21 pm

poor appointment if he gets it. wanted someone a little more exciting and proven than him  :thumbdown:

Sounds exactly like the words spoken when Sean got the gig from Penney.
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: roverssam1879 on January 07, 2013, 01:59:58 pm

poor appointment if he gets it. wanted someone a little more exciting and proven than him  :thumbdown:

Sounds exactly like the words spoken when Sean got the gig from Penney.

Maybe so but id sooner the manager of Bournmouth than of St Johnstone!

Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: The L J Monk on January 07, 2013, 02:00:59 pm
wanted someone a little more exciting...

Like who?
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: RedArmy on January 07, 2013, 02:03:38 pm
personally wouldnt mind him doesnt seem to have done much wrong in scotland, seems to show passion and young what more do people want??
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: Pintolager on January 07, 2013, 02:10:05 pm
I read with interest Silent Majority's post about what attributes the club are looking for in any new manager and what stuck out for me were the points about having a guy who has experience of winning promotion from league 1 and managing in the Championship and also someone with personality who us fans can take to. Lomas doesn't seem to tick those boxes for me
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: Derby Viking on January 07, 2013, 02:12:31 pm
Rules SOD out of making a comeback too thankfully - has the first 2 but no personality.
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: RedArmy on January 07, 2013, 02:13:41 pm
how can someone who seemes to show passion not win the fans over?
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: River Don on January 07, 2013, 02:18:29 pm
how can someone who seemes to show passion not win the fans over?

By losing a lot?
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: RedArmy on January 07, 2013, 02:19:47 pm
how can someone who seemes to show passion not win the fans over?

By losing a lot?

saunders showed passion lost more than he won, seems to have won 90% of the fans over.
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: roverssam1879 on January 07, 2013, 02:24:37 pm
wanted someone a little more exciting...

Like who?



Rosler,Brown,Tisdale...
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: hoolahoop on January 07, 2013, 02:28:10 pm
how can someone who seemes to show passion not win the fans over?

By losing a lot?

saunders showed passion lost more than he won, seems to have won 90% of the fans over.

Seperate seasons and different players and Division. As for 90% of the fans ........I very much doubt it despite being in 2nd. position.
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: The L J Monk on January 07, 2013, 02:30:23 pm
Rosler,Brown,Tisdale...
Agreed upon Rosler or Tisdale. However, I'm not sure we have the sort of players that they would relish.

Tricky one for the board as they could appoint someone whose team is more pleasing on the eye, but who, without their own players, is likely to scupper any promotion chances for this season.
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: roverssam1879 on January 07, 2013, 02:34:00 pm
Rosler,Brown,Tisdale...
Agreed upon Rosler or Tisdale. However, I'm not sure we have the sort of players that they would relish.

Tricky one for the board as they could appoint someone whose team is more pleasing on the eye, but who, without their own players, is likely to scupper any promotion chances for this season.


Id really like to see either one of them and they would be my choice. Your point on scuppering the chance of this seasons promotion is valid, im worried that whoever comes in, good or bad, it will have a negative effect, meaning i recon the previous regieme/plan would have ended up with us in the top 2. a new man in the hot seat will lead us to only the play offs due to the nature of changing things.
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: besty on January 07, 2013, 02:35:08 pm
Rosler,Brown,Tisdale...
Agreed upon Rosler or Tisdale. However, I'm not sure we have the sort of players that they would relish.

Tricky one for the board as they could appoint someone whose team is more pleasing on the eye, but who, without their own players, is likely to scupper any promotion chances for this season.


I was just thinking this.We have players who are more physical than pretty on the eye footballers.Dont think even SOD could get half of our players to play passing football so the new boss is gonna have to like hoofball as well.
Aidy Boothroyd or Kevin Blackwell anyone?
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: Viking Don on January 07, 2013, 02:37:16 pm
Based on previous experience the new manager will be someone who'll bring in one or two of own players with him, so if it is going to be Lomas then we must be after Liam Craig.
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: River Don on January 07, 2013, 02:46:34 pm
This is why I think it's a very difficult appointment to make this time.

We're in a great position in the league and we get someone in who would just carry on where Saunders left off, we could be in with a good shout of promotion.

At the same time I'd like to see the club follow in the footsteps of Swansea and build a system that would allow the inevitable managerial changes without disrupting things. It would allow us to always build but I don't think we're playing the sort of football to begin to deliver that yet and I wouldn't want to jeopordise the promotion push by making big changes.
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: Metalmicky on January 07, 2013, 04:05:44 pm
TBF Saunders lost more than he won at Rovers
Lomas would be a great appointment...he's LOST more games than he's won at St Johnstone.
No thanks!

TBF Saunders lost more than he won at Rovers. 

Has anyone considered Phil Parkinson at Bradford......?
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: Derby Viking on January 07, 2013, 04:09:43 pm
And SOD lost more than he won at Rovers - think this says something about both managers  :)

Hopefully whoever JR brings in will do a good job for us
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: Herbert Fandel on January 07, 2013, 04:12:37 pm
Hello all, St. Johnstone fan coming in peace with some opinions about Lomas.

Lomas has signed us the best squad Saints have had in years and years. He seems to have good connections and our squad is brilliant on paper.
BUT - the results are poor, the team is always in disarray with no organisation. The team rarely look driven either. Craig Beattie doesn't get a game despite being on a huge salary and supposedly fit, the two seem to be at loggerheads. Lomas is always banned from touchline. In press conferences he destroys confidence by always saying we are overachieving, despite achieveing less than our squad on paper should. He is always asking for more money from the chairman, despite being heavily backed and harming the financial status of the club, then not getting the results to justify it. The local landlords love him, and by all accounts he is nice to punters in pubs. He swears at kids during games. He doesn't play young players

Also he didnt take us to Europe, he took over from DM and did quite well for a bit, but going into the last 5 games we could have finished incredibly high, but we got hammered in every game. We collapsed over the line and as said before, only the cup win got us through.

I want rid of him, and I think you can do much much much better.

That said, there is something about him, just something, that makes me think he could make it one day, and it would be silly for us to let him go. But I doubt it.

I'm sure fellow saintees linked to this page will tear me down.
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: robchester on January 07, 2013, 04:13:37 pm
Looking at the latest odds the manager whose odds are dropping is Mark Robins.  Stan James suspended betting on SL earlier but are now taking bets again.
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: Viking Don on January 07, 2013, 04:14:37 pm
Most of us have been wrong about JR's past candidates so whoever it is let's just all please give him the benefit of the doubt and get behind the new man.

Haha Herbert, thanks for that, he's the manager for me! Any truth to the rumour that he was targeted by Palace, Burnley, Bournemouth?
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: streatham dave on January 07, 2013, 09:09:28 pm
Interesting from Herbert. Looking at St Johnstone message board most would be happy to get rid . The Tommy Wright they mention is not the ex rover I've checked.  http://www.weareperth.co.uk/wapforum/index.php?/topic/18383-lomas-to/page__st__60

Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: Akinfenwa on January 07, 2013, 09:27:14 pm
To be honest, I don't like the idea of this guy at all from what I've read.
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: wilts rover on January 07, 2013, 10:47:26 pm
Did you know, Lomas has been sent off as many times as our whole squad so far this season. His team have had another 6 red cards. Somehow I doubt it will be him.
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: dumpweed on January 07, 2013, 11:15:13 pm
Not a fan of Lomas or his style of play in Scotland.

Doubt he would be able to create a good team in England. Took over art St Johnstone after Derek McInnes left s good team.

Also, very volatile and not a people person.

Terry butcher from the SPL would be a better option.
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: mushRTID on January 07, 2013, 11:17:42 pm
Not liking the sound of the ginger one.
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: RobTheRover on January 08, 2013, 01:31:56 am
I had a good chat with Dick Watson at the forum meeting tonight,  and he was insistent that the appointment will not be rushed.  He understood how important the right man was at this time,  which is absolutely correct.

Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: BobG on January 08, 2013, 09:35:47 am
That must imply then, Rob, that they can only be looking for someone who basically plays the same kind of togger as DS? Anything else would both miss the transfer window and wreck the rest of the season.

BobG
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: KC_DRFC on January 08, 2013, 09:41:12 am
Steve Lomas 2/5 with Sky Bet.. Looks like hes got the job then
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: rtid88 on January 08, 2013, 09:47:08 am
The more I read about Lomas the less I feel that I want him as part of our club! Do we really want a manager that has not got the integrity and respect that he clearly shows that he has not got to receive an 8 match ban?

I love a manager to have passion and to show this from the dug out, but the one thing that we cannot doubt Deano brought with him was the feel good factor and the ability to build confidence and motivate players. From what I am reading Lomas seems to bring the opposite effect!

Not the man for me, plus he's ginger!
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: nice one rovers on January 08, 2013, 03:21:47 pm
No way. He looks like a parsnip, people would laugh at us.
Title: Re: steve lomas
Post by: deebee on January 08, 2013, 08:01:39 pm
I posted this under St Jonstone fans but I thout I would put it here as well.

As my son lives not more than 500 yards from Perth Rovers ( Sorry St Johnstone ) I have attended several matches. I have often come on here saying which promising  players I have seen ie:-Jason Scotland before Swansea nicked him, only to be shot down. Their last manager now at Bristol City
did a fair job Steve Lomas is again doing a fair job with very limited resources you only have to look at the crowds they get which is less than half ours. They have beaten Celtic on their own patch this season and have done realy well with some very important players out injured. And if you think we have dodgy refs you should see theirs. They also at the moment have a decent young lad worth a look who would make a very good winger/striker just what we need take a look
He's is a relative of Jimmy http://www.perthstjohnstonefc.co.uk/player.php?param=106 I for one would not be disapointed if Steve Lomas came here.