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Title: cotts dive
Post by: donnievic on February 10, 2013, 01:46:04 pm
See nothing has been said about it but if it had been Keegan or Bennett who had gone down sure alot would have been on there back about it
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: Filo on February 10, 2013, 01:48:57 pm
See nothing has been said about it but if it had been Keegan or Bennett who had gone down sure alot would have been on there back about it

I thought it was a penalty, the player caught him, Cotts got to the ball before him but made the most of going down, outside of the box it`s a free kick, inside and it`s considered a dive
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: donnievic on February 10, 2013, 01:50:20 pm
the player was no where near cotts #fact
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: donnydunph on February 10, 2013, 01:51:39 pm
it was a shocking attempt at a dive, i was laughing.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: dickos1 on February 10, 2013, 01:51:46 pm
He never got the ball otherwise it would've been a corner. #fact
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: donnievic on February 10, 2013, 01:53:22 pm
He never got the ball otherwise it would've been a corner. #fact
thats why the ref gave a goal kick cotts kicked it out and dived #fact
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: mushRTID on February 10, 2013, 01:57:57 pm
Dreadful dive and he knew it afterwards.
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: MachoMadness on February 10, 2013, 02:03:15 pm
Was a shocking dive and I reckon the ref had it in his mind later on when Brown was blatantly hauled back in the area.
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: vaya on February 10, 2013, 02:41:31 pm
Dive for me as well I'm afraid. Brown though was swept down in a move last seen in the Karate Kid.
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: AbsolutDRFC on February 10, 2013, 02:58:49 pm
Given that Febian Brandy went to ground far too often, I thought a lot of his were theatricals more often than not dives, yet he wasn't once pulled up by the ref.
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: Norfolk N Chance on February 10, 2013, 03:01:17 pm
See nothing has been said about it but if it had been Keegan or Bennett who had gone down sure alot would have been on there back about it

I thought it was a penalty, the player caught him, Cotts got to the ball before him but made the most of going down, outside of the box it`s a free kick, inside and it`s considered a dive

People saying they have seen it on video and it was a pen.

No where near him? Of course he was!
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: timdrfc on February 10, 2013, 03:03:35 pm
Why do we need a thread like this ?

What a joke , someone trying to get at Rovers most effective player, check his stats for assists & goals !
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: Chris Black come back on February 10, 2013, 03:26:32 pm
We call a spade a spade here. He is a great player, one of the best wingers in this league easy, but he went down a bit soft yesterday. Chris Brown was definitely brought down as he was about to shoot. Penalty easy. Not given.
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: GazLaz on February 10, 2013, 03:27:41 pm
He should have been sent off it was that bad. He didnt even argue the booking which tells you it was a dive.
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: StocktonRover on February 10, 2013, 03:30:50 pm
He should have been sent off it was that bad. He didnt even argue the booking which tells you it was a dive.

No it doesn't - it might tell you that last week he realised having a go at the officials about a poor decision wont reverse it and will get you booked again an in this case with a joke of a ref probably sent off.
Strange how the ref then let the keeper take the resultant kick from where Cotts went to ground outside the 6 yard box?
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: GazLaz on February 10, 2013, 03:52:13 pm
You can't be serious. If you should have had a penalty and you get booked for diving you go mad.
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: Dagenham Rover on February 10, 2013, 04:06:44 pm
Nice to see player shows both penalty shouts  :headbang:
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: Bentley Bullet on February 10, 2013, 04:29:11 pm
The ref was quick to book Cotts, and appeared to show zero tolerance to players 'diving'. This is commendable providing the same approach is shown every time the offence is committed.

On at least three occasions Walsall players were guilty of blatant diving, and should have been carded for bad acting as much as diving, but, alas, the ref was conned by them......Unless of course he was cheating too.
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: donnievic on February 10, 2013, 04:32:05 pm
Why do we need a thread like this ?

What a joke , someone trying to get at Rovers most effective player, check his stats for assists & goals !

Whats your problem if it had been Bennett or Keegan they would be moaning saying it was a dive just because it was cotts then why should we not say anything about it,i remember guy use to get murdered for divig
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: RedJ on February 10, 2013, 04:46:54 pm
Definitely caught him but I don't think it was enough to take him down the way Cotts went to ground. Looked an obvious dive.
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: donnievic on February 10, 2013, 05:02:31 pm
He should have been sent off it was that bad. He didnt even argue the booking which tells you it was a dive.

No it doesn't - it might tell you that last week he realised having a go at the officials about a poor decision wont reverse it and will get you booked again an in this case with a joke of a ref probably sent off.
Strange how the ref then let the keeper take the resultant kick from where Cotts went to ground outside the 6 yard box?
tgats because it was outside the 6 yard box where it happened
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: DonnyNoel on February 10, 2013, 06:34:13 pm
Definitely caught him but I don't think it was enough to take him down the way Cotts went to ground. Looked an obvious dive.

All about angles as they say, from the far side of the south stand to the incident there appeared to be clear daylight between the players, he didn't make the most of anything - clear dive.
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: rich1471 on February 10, 2013, 07:08:27 pm
I sit right behind the goal in the south stand and it was a clear dive their player was no were near cotts and you could see clear day light when cotts went down , but from another part of the ground it may well look like a penalty it was the only thing the ref got correct all game.
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: shaun from thorne on February 10, 2013, 07:52:11 pm
If you choose to dive in the box and try and cheat the ref you have to except the consequences......in this instance he got what he deserved,but if the ref had given a pen and we scored then we all would have been happy........you can't win.
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: Belle Vue Popside on February 10, 2013, 09:05:31 pm
Still to this day don't know whats wrong with diving? It's part of the modern game... Hypocritical if you slag diving off, because you'd still accept it if we ended getting a goal/penalty for it.

Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: RobTheRover on February 11, 2013, 12:03:35 am
I sit right behind the goal in the south stand and it was a clear dive their player was no were near cotts and you could see clear day light when cotts went down , but from another part of the ground it may well look like a penalty it was the only thing the ref got correct all game.

I sit in the SS too, and the line of Cotts' run was coming straight towards me, and I can tell you for a fact there was contact, albeit minor, which is why Cotts went down.  Cant blame him for that, if you agree with what the likes of Shearer and Hanson say about it.  If there is contact, you go down.
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on February 11, 2013, 12:19:42 am
The problem is it looked a deliberate dive. To us old school ex-players it's a part of the modern game we hate. Had the ref had given it, then I would be thinking he got conned. Yes I know Brandy conned the ref on more than one occasion but that doesn't make it right.

We all know he did not have to go down even if there was the slightest contact.

There are pulls, pushes all over the park and it seems like the refs just guess and feel obliged to give a foul on way or the other. When it's six of one and half a dozen of the other just play on!
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: RedJ on February 11, 2013, 12:27:18 am
I wonder if the speed at which he was running was what took him down more than the contact, though, and the forward/downward momentum that he'd have gotten from a mixture of the two.
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: jonnydog on February 11, 2013, 06:05:34 am
I wonder if the speed at which he was running was what took him down more than the contact, though, and the forward/downward momentum that he'd have gotten from a mixture of the two.

I said that at the time
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: donnievic on February 11, 2013, 08:12:57 am
The reason he dived is he thought the player was going to put his foot there to try and get the ball but didn't that's why there wasnt any contact
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: SoundbiteBarmyArmy on February 11, 2013, 08:42:39 am
A dive from where I was sat I'm afraid, he didn't need too do it!
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: DonnyNoel on February 11, 2013, 08:49:03 am
I sit right behind the goal in the south stand and it was a clear dive their player was no were near cotts and you could see clear day light when cotts went down , but from another part of the ground it may well look like a penalty it was the only thing the ref got correct all game.

I sit in the SS too, and the line of Cotts' run was coming straight towards me, and I can tell you for a fact there was contact, albeit minor, which is why Cotts went down.  Cant blame him for that, if you agree with what the likes of Shearer and Hanson say about it.  If there is contact, you go down.

Shows how hard it is eh, I can tell you for a fact there wasn't and if Cotts was coming towards you then I had the better view.

So nerrr. ;)
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: donnievic on February 11, 2013, 08:56:57 am
Yeah I was sat right behind the goal and there was deffo no contact and that's why he didn't even argue the fact and not because he got booked the week before at bury for doing that,as his nature is to argue if he thinks he is right.
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: Belle-Vue-Ghost on February 11, 2013, 09:32:05 am
Just seen it on Player  :unsure: shocker
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: Norfolk N Chance on February 11, 2013, 11:54:39 am
So what if he dived they all do it.

Good luck to him I say!
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: Barmby Rover on February 11, 2013, 12:09:40 pm
No penalty, the booking was a bit stupid though, the sort of thing that a ref has a quick word about when running away from the incident. I approve of diving getting bookings in which case several times Wallsall players should have been booked, consistency is everything in refereeing.
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: Filo on February 11, 2013, 12:38:29 pm
Just seen it on player, I take back what i said earlier, It`s a dive, no question! why was n`t the stonewaller on Brown shown?
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: donnievic on February 11, 2013, 02:05:04 pm
So what if he dived they all do it.

Good luck to him I say!
will remind you of that then when he picks up his 10th booking and misses 2 games or when no doubt as bad the refs are in this league we get a pen given against us for it
Title: Re: cotts dive
Post by: Lesonthewest on February 11, 2013, 05:52:13 pm
Dive for me I'm afraid, although later in the game a Walsall player went down trying to con the ref but he didn't buy it, so on the same proviso he should have been carded, then again I'd given up with the incompetent man in black by then.