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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: donnyguy61 on May 03, 2013, 05:19:27 pm
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Ros Jones (Labour) beats Davies
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Go on then.....
"We've got Jones, JONES!"
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I see Davis didn't fail to make himsen look a bellend.
"Ive started so I'll finish" springs to mind.
COME ON YOU HOOOOOPS!!! :scarf:
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I used to work with Ros. She is very good indeed, and cares deeply about the Borough. She will make an excellent Mayor.
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I used to work with Ros. She is very good indeed, and cares deeply about the Borough. She will make an excellent Mayor.
I hope so Rob, but I'm sceptical (surprise surprise) that we'll be back to getting nothing done as the party in power will just do meeting after meeting (enjoying their free lunches) and never get anywhere....
At least Winter and Davies were strong (and independent) enough to get things moving in the town.
I'm really disappointed that we've got a no-mark faceless party person now. Hope she proves me wrong!
But given your comments, I am more optimistic sir!
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I used to work with Ros. She is very good indeed, and cares deeply about the Borough. She will make an excellent Mayor.
I hope so Rob, but I'm sceptical (surprise surprise) that we'll be back to getting nothing done as the party in power will just do meeting after meeting (enjoying their free lunches) and never get anywhere....
At least Winter and Davies were strong (and independent) enough to get things moving in the town.
I'm really disappointed that we've got a no-mark faceless party person now. Hope she proves me wrong!
But given your comments, I am more optimistic sir!
Davies for me was a complete waste of time, I tried to contact him numerous times just lately over the problems caused by the repair of the landslip at Hatfield pit, he never responded once! I thought maybe he`s a bit busy, but then I see him on the news unveiling a plaque to commemorate a former poet lauriette, he`s got time to do that, but has n`t got time to address issues that really concern people. I see even though he does n`t like football he got in on the act on Monday night at the KM. Good riddance to the man, all he cared about was himself and his freebies at the racecourse!
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Go on then.....
"We've got Jones, JONES!"
Had Rob Jones been standing I'm sure he'd have got about 90% of the vote!
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I used to work with Ros. She is very good indeed, and cares deeply about the Borough. She will make an excellent Mayor.
I hope so Rob, but I'm sceptical (surprise surprise) that we'll be back to getting nothing done as the party in power will just do meeting after meeting (enjoying their free lunches) and never get anywhere....
At least Winter and Davies were strong (and independent) enough to get things moving in the town.
I'm really disappointed that we've got a no-mark faceless party person now. Hope she proves me wrong!
But given your comments, I am more optimistic sir!
Davies for me was a complete waste of time, I tried to contact him numerous times just lately over the problems caused by the repair of the landslip at Hatfield pit, he never responded once! I thought maybe he`s a bit busy, but then I see him on the news unveiling a plaque to commemorate a former poet lauriette, he`s got time to do that, but has n`t got time to address issues that really concern people. I see even though he does n`t like football he got in on the act on Monday night at the KM. Good riddance to the man, all he cared about was himself and his freebies at the racecourse!
It's incredible how that has dragged on... am I right in thinking that trains will be affected until something like October?
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I used to work with Ros. She is very good indeed, and cares deeply about the Borough. She will make an excellent Mayor.
I hope so Rob, but I'm sceptical (surprise surprise) that we'll be back to getting nothing done as the party in power will just do meeting after meeting (enjoying their free lunches) and never get anywhere....
At least Winter and Davies were strong (and independent) enough to get things moving in the town.
I'm really disappointed that we've got a no-mark faceless party person now. Hope she proves me wrong!
But given your comments, I am more optimistic sir!
Davies for me was a complete waste of time, I tried to contact him numerous times just lately over the problems caused by the repair of the landslip at Hatfield pit, he never responded once! I thought maybe he`s a bit busy, but then I see him on the news unveiling a plaque to commemorate a former poet lauriette, he`s got time to do that, but has n`t got time to address issues that really concern people. I see even though he does n`t like football he got in on the act on Monday night at the KM. Good riddance to the man, all he cared about was himself and his freebies at the racecourse!
It's incredible how that has dragged on... am I right in thinking that trains will be affected until something like October?
It`s a bigger job than most folk realise 1.5 million tons of spoil has to be removed before they can start work on the line. September was last official word on it, but I have heard on the grapevine it could be nearer November/ December, my lad has just started work on the pit site on security and they`ve told him their contract is for a year
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Even though I no longer live in the town , Davies has been an embaressment
by association. I was stunned when he was elected as an 'english democrat',
this as opposed to a french or german democrat I assume.
I remember hearing him on Radio Sheffieldon his first day in post ,
throwing his dummy out thr pram and storming out of the studio
when asked how he would implement one of his main policies ,
ie reduce the number of councillors, when this was determined by
Parliament and not within his jurisdiction , proving not only had he no idea
what he was doing but didn't even ubnderstand what he was talking about.
A position he managed to continue until kicked out.
Still astonished how many voted for him.
At least the voted mind - should be compulsory.
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Davies did have some success with anti-social behaviour and crime.
He also gave the town the third lowest council tax in the country. I suspect that will change now.
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Hopefully she'll do something to help this town keep young people here. I'm moving away shortly, I just can't get the work I want here really. Just like the majority of people my age, there's nothing for us here. This town does very little to keep people with any sort of higher education. She wants to create apprenticeships but if something was done to keep people with degrees etc in the area that would help those who need apprenticeships as business grows.
One thing they should stop aswell is this ridiculous notion of people not going to their local school. I also was running through a local park this morning littered in rubbish, broken glass etc, wouldn't fancy playing football there. The town seamt to progress around 10 years ago but has been steadily going nowhere. It's all well and good blaming cuts and all that kind of thing, there's plenty that can be done without spending huge amounts of money. Labour have no excuses around here anymore, here's hoping they deliver this time.
I doubt she'll be pushing council taxes up though she's pledged to cut the cost of living afterall....
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Hopefully she'll do something to help this town keep young people here. I'm moving away shortly, I just can't get the work I want here really. Just like the majority of people my age, there's nothing for us here. This town does very little to keep people with any sort of higher education. She wants to create apprenticeships but if something was done to keep people with degrees etc in the area that would help those who need apprenticeships as business grows.
This goes way beyond the remit of a local mayor to be fair. The North has been draining large numbers of it's most talented young people to the south east for decades now.
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This West Coast Mainline upgrade is a sorry statement of intent too.....
Doncaster, Hull & the Tyne-Tees area will continue to suffer should Birmingham, Leeds, Sheffield and Manchester all benefit from this.
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This West Coast Mainline upgrade is a sorry statement of intent too.....
Doncaster, Hull & the Tyne-Tees area will continue to suffer should Birmingham, Leeds, Sheffield and Manchester all benefit from this.
Property prices are reportedly rising in areas close to where the high speed line will be around Birmingham.
I suspect this is because the line is largely going to provide a new commuter route into London. That isn't doing a lot to address the imbalances in this country.
What the proposed high speed line from Birmingham to the North West and Sheffield/Leeds achieve, who knows?
We won't be seeing that for a longtime yet anyway.
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I used to work with Ros. She is very good indeed, and cares deeply about the Borough. She will make an excellent Mayor.
I hope so Rob, but I'm sceptical (surprise surprise) that we'll be back to getting nothing done as the party in power will just do meeting after meeting (enjoying their free lunches) and never get anywhere....
At least Winter and Davies were strong (and independent) enough to get things moving in the town.
I'm really disappointed that we've got a no-mark faceless party person now. Hope she proves me wrong!
But given your comments, I am more optimistic sir!
Davies for me was a complete waste of time, I tried to contact him numerous times just lately over the problems caused by the repair of the landslip at Hatfield pit, he never responded once! I thought maybe he`s a bit busy, but then I see him on the news unveiling a plaque to commemorate a former poet lauriette, he`s got time to do that, but has n`t got time to address issues that really concern people. I see even though he does n`t like football he got in on the act on Monday night at the KM. Good riddance to the man, all he cared about was himself and his freebies at the racecourse!
It's incredible how that has dragged on... am I right in thinking that trains will be affected until something like October?
It`s a bigger job than most folk realise 1.5 million tons of spoil has to be removed before they can start work on the line. September was last official word on it, but I have heard on the grapevine it could be nearer November/ December, my lad has just started work on the pit site on security and they`ve told him their contract is for a year
I'm sick of the workers parking down your street, I've been blocked in countless times this month when visiting my mothers...
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This West Coast Mainline upgrade is a sorry statement of intent too.....
Doncaster, Hull & the Tyne-Tees area will continue to suffer should Birmingham, Leeds, Sheffield and Manchester all benefit from this.
Property prices are reportedly rising in areas close to where the high speed line will be around Birmingham.
I suspect this is because the line is largely going to provide a new commuter route into London. That isn't doing a lot to address the imbalances in this country.
What the proposed high speed line from Birmingham to the North West and Sheffield/Leeds achieve, who knows?
We won't be seeing that for a longtime yet anyway.
It's ironic; when I was at EWS Railways, we always laughed at why there was a major yard at Toton. It was in the middle of nowhere, but now (just like you said in Birmingham); the local residents are now hoping to see things improving (albeit in a number of years time).
When I was there; there was also talk of a change on the East Coast mainline whereby we'd have had a Doncaster Parkway station (down Middle bank) with loads of parking to assist commuters link onto a high speed line.
From memory there'd have been new stations at Stevenage and Edinburgh too....
Unfortunately the East side is being forgotten about at the moment (just like the M11 link up to Hull & through to Newcastle).
It feels like there's being wedges driven through this country (not just social, but also eco-geographical) at the moment.
(By the way, I just made that last word up!!)
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Was it Davies decision to let the Rovers run the KM? Not living in Donny I'm not up to speed on local politics
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Was it Davies decision to let the Rovers run the KM? Not living in Donny I'm not up to speed on local politics
I think it probably was.
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Was it Davies decision to let the Rovers run the KM? Not living in Donny I'm not up to speed on local politics
I think it probably was.
Can't have been that bad then, got 1 decision right during his tenure :thumbsup:
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Was it Davies decision to let the Rovers run the KM? Not living in Donny I'm not up to speed on local politics
I think it probably was.
Can't have been that bad then, got 1 decision right during his tenure :thumbsup:
He said on numerous occasions he didn't believe it is the councils job to run a venture like a stadium, so I am pretty sure he would have been pushing for Rovers to take it on.
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May I ask why a mayor has to be politically aligned? Maybe I'm just being naive.
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Didn't they say something (while Davies was still in charge) about a civic reception for Rovers sometime in the future?
I wonder if that'll still go ahead?
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He also gave the town the third lowest council tax in the country. I suspect that will change now.
Yes....at the expense of services, wage cuts for the lower paid workers, and redundancies of many in social care and closure of social education centres.
Frankly, if an extra 1% on the council tax would have kept a few hundred DMBC staff in employment and therefore maintained a decent standard of service Id prefer that.
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He also gave the town the third lowest council tax in the country. I suspect that will change now.
Yes....at the expense of services, wage cuts for the lower paid workers, and redundancies of many in social care and closure of social education centres.
Frankly, if an extra 1% on the council tax would have kept a few hundred DMBC staff in employment and therefore maintained a decent standard of service Id prefer that.
You might of not everyone else would of
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He also gave the town the third lowest council tax in the country. I suspect that will change now.
Yes....at the expense of services, wage cuts for the lower paid workers, and redundancies of many in social care and closure of social education centres.
Frankly, if an extra 1% on the council tax would have kept a few hundred DMBC staff in employment and therefore maintained a decent standard of service Id prefer that.
You might of not everyone else would of
1%, for most of the Borough, is under £10. I know Id rather have glass swept up in parks, our mentally vulnerable citizens and children at risk cared for adequately and given the time and energy they deserve for that.....but, your right, not everyone would.
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He also gave the town the third lowest council tax in the country. I suspect that will change now.
Yes....at the expense of services, wage cuts for the lower paid workers, and redundancies of many in social care and closure of social education centres.
Frankly, if an extra 1% on the council tax would have kept a few hundred DMBC staff in employment and therefore maintained a decent standard of service Id prefer that.
You might of not everyone else would of
have, HAVE!!!
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He also gave the town the third lowest council tax in the country. I suspect that will change now.
Yes....at the expense of services, wage cuts for the lower paid workers, and redundancies of many in social care and closure of social education centres.
Frankly, if an extra 1% on the council tax would have kept a few hundred DMBC staff in employment and therefore maintained a decent standard of service Id prefer that.
You might of not everyone else would of
have, HAVE!!!
You make me laugh . . . whats this YAURS in disguise
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No Red. It's a forum where people display their ignorance, prejudices and emotions. Pies was suggesting your image and reputation would be better if you took a little more care.
And for the record, I'm with duke. I'd far rather pay more council Tax, and income tax, if the shit state of many things in this country would be improved. Like I said a couple of months ago, that blasted woman made income tax a dirty word. It isn't.
BobG
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He also gave the town the third lowest council tax in the country. I suspect that will change now.
Yes....at the expense of services, wage cuts for the lower paid workers, and redundancies of many in social care and closure of social education centres.
Frankly, if an extra 1% on the council tax would have kept a few hundred DMBC staff in employment and therefore maintained a decent standard of service Id prefer that.
You might of not everyone else would of
have, HAVE!!!
You make me laugh . . . whats this YAURS in disguise
Apostrophe and question mark. I feel a yellow card coming on.
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And again people make me laugh
This country would not be better served by paying more in tax etc. it would be better served by whichever party is in power using the money they have a little more wisely. That is in my opinion.
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Davis was a joke! Anyone who thinks the town has at all improved under his govere need their head checking All he had managed to do since them government watchdog people left is cut public sevices in order to needlessly cut council tax. If he wanted to cut costs why didn't he look into restructuring to improve efficiency?
Any improvements that were made while he was in office were planned or atleast in the pipeline before he came into office.
All he ever did was cut down some trees and read the racing post. Doncaster will be a much better place with him as far away any responsibility as possible.
COME ON YOU HOOOOOPS!!! :scarf:
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Didn't vote but I would have stayed with Davies he seemed a bit more switched on than most. In particular he picked up on the fact that quite a bit of time could be knocked off the rail journey from London by sorting the pinch points at Grantham Hitching and Rosso.
I should imagine Ross will be hacking up the Council tax to fund the Council parties at their race course box.
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I used to go out with her niece. Nuff said.
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Can anyone answer my question please? Not being a dick just generally curious.
Why does a mayor have to be politically aligned?
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I don't believe they do Adam. I'm not an expert but I rather think the political alignment is usually needed so that the candidate can have access to all the various support functions that are needed to be a credible candidate. If you stood on your own, who would design, print, distribute your leaflets? Who would pay for that? Who would get all the names and addresses you would need? Who would tell you where to concentrate your efforts? Who would do your opinion research for you? Who would do your press liaison? Who would manage your diary, get best value from your time? Even who would do your driving?
You could do it all on your own - if you had the money. Clint Eastwood famously did it once in Carmel California. But for most folk, it's an impossible job without the support of a 'machine'
Cheers
BobG
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Bob, your comments above make the result even more remarkable, one had possibly the next prime minister knocking on doors for her in a labour stronghold , one was a bloke doing it by himself.
For the result to be so close - (an almost dead heat totaling two thirds of those of the 62k that bothered ) doesnt really seem to demonstrate there was a massive demand for change - especially when you consider he got in last last time as an unknown protest vote- so this time people knew what they were getting and almost returned him for another go
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I don't believe they do Adam. I'm not an expert but I rather think the political alignment is usually needed so that the candidate can have access to all the various support functions that are needed to be a credible candidate. If you stood on your own, who would design, print, distribute your leaflets? Who would pay for that? Who would get all the names and addresses you would need? Who would tell you where to concentrate your efforts? Who would do your opinion research for you? Who would do your press liaison? Who would manage your diary, get best value from your time? Even who would do your driving?
You could do it all on your own - if you had the money. Clint Eastwood famously did it once in Carmel California. But for most folk, it's an impossible job without the support of a 'machine'
Cheers
BobG
This is why I hate politics because you've probably got the best mayor somewhere sitting on his hands because he doesn't have the mega bucks that the majority of candidates do. So it's more of a popularity contest than an actual election of a mayor that will make the town better?
It makes me mad.
Another question stemmed from naivety though, where do the political parties get their funding? I imagine some of it is from our taxes.
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I don't believe they do Adam. I'm not an expert but I rather think the political alignment is usually needed so that the candidate can have access to all the various support functions that are needed to be a credible candidate. If you stood on your own, who would design, print, distribute your leaflets? Who would pay for that? Who would get all the names and addresses you would need? Who would tell you where to concentrate your efforts? Who would do your opinion research for you? Who would do your press liaison? Who would manage your diary, get best value from your time? Even who would do your driving?
You could do it all on your own - if you had the money. Clint Eastwood famously did it once in Carmel California. But for most folk, it's an impossible job without the support of a 'machine'
Cheers
BobG
This is why I hate politics because you've probably got the best mayor somewhere sitting on his hands because he doesn't have the mega bucks that the majority of candidates do. So it's more of a popularity contest than an actual election of a mayor that will make the town better?
It makes me mad.
Another question stemmed from naivety though, where do the political parties get their funding? I imagine some of it is from our taxes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_funding_in_the_United_Kingdom
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I don't believe they do Adam. I'm not an expert but I rather think the political alignment is usually needed so that the candidate can have access to all the various support functions that are needed to be a credible candidate. If you stood on your own, who would design, print, distribute your leaflets? Who would pay for that? Who would get all the names and addresses you would need? Who would tell you where to concentrate your efforts? Who would do your opinion research for you? Who would do your press liaison? Who would manage your diary, get best value from your time? Even who would do your driving?
You could do it all on your own - if you had the money. Clint Eastwood famously did it once in Carmel California. But for most folk, it's an impossible job without the support of a 'machine'
Cheers
BobG
This is why I hate politics because you've probably got the best mayor somewhere sitting on his hands because he doesn't have the mega bucks that the majority of candidates do. So it's more of a popularity contest than an actual election of a mayor that will make the town better?
It makes me mad.
Another question stemmed from naivety though, where do the political parties get their funding? I imagine some of it is from our taxes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_funding_in_the_United_Kingdom
Worse than I thought. What a democracy we live in.
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I voted Davis. I admired his backbone and commitment to get things done in the face of edversity at times e.g.:
- Re-opening the old North bridge to outbound cars. A victory for common sense in a town with high congestion but slammed by Labour councillors
- Removal of parking meters around Christchurch. Another sensible move to encourage people to the town centre and boost business in the area.
- Removal of obstructive trees at the racecourse. Doncaster Racecourse is one of the world's most prestigious venues for its sport and is there primarily for horse racing (with other functions etc. thrown in). If you can do something to improve the view of horse racing at a horse racing venue, just do it. I couldn't believe the amount of nimbyism at the time.
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To be fair, Mike, you've had a spot of "previous" with him. Didnt he teach you how to read the form guide in the racing post?
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He was a cracking teacher. Took no shit. Not even from the likes of me!
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I find that hard to believe.
not even from you???????
;)
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My politics teacher at Danum too.
Racing Post tucked under his arm even in those days...
Mind you, that was when the Staff room always looked like it was on fire as there was always a cloud of smoke trying to escape from under the door.
Incredible how things were!
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I find that hard to believe.
not even from you???????
;)
Aye Rob. Would you credit it, eh?
There were two or three teachers who I used ot have a great bit of banter with back in the day. But then again, having thought about it a bit more...
My A-Level English teacher AND my A level Media Studies teacher both jacked in the profession after two years of teaching me. Complete coincidence of course.
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The new Mayor has announced her new Cabinet Quelle Surprise they are all Labour! If Peter Davis had a cross party Cabinet why does Ross need a single party one,transparency, fairness and all that!
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The new Mayor has announced her new Cabinet Quelle Surprise they are all Labour! If Peter Davis had a cross party Cabinet why does Ross need a single party one,transparency, fairness and all that!
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I agree on that one take the best from all parties to form the cabinet here we go again