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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Red Rover on May 30, 2013, 08:54:38 am
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The Free Press today says Richie Wellens is out first target. Wellens and Furman centre mid sounds amazing! :woohoo: :woohoo:
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Is he past it?
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Welcome addition I'd say.
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My son lives in Ipswich and he says that they were really impressed with his contribution last season to the point where they asked the Leicester about his availability.
I am a big fan of Wellens. In my view we have lacked someone to consistently make the killer pass since he left.
Welcome him back with open arms.
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My son lives in Ipswich and he says that they were really impressed with his contribution last season to the point where they asked the Leicester about his availability.
I am a big fan of Wellens. In my view we have lacked someone to consistently make the killer pass since he left.
Welcome him back with open arms.
I think the question is "Is he better than Woods and Harper?"
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My son lives in Ipswich and he says that they were really impressed with his contribution last season to the point where they asked the Leicester about his availability.
I am a big fan of Wellens. In my view we have lacked someone to consistently make the killer pass since he left.
Welcome him back with open arms.
I think the question is "Is he better than Woods and Harper?"
Without a shadow of a doubt
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The Free Press today says Richie Wellens is out first target. Wellens and Furman centre mid sounds amazing! :woohoo: :woohoo:
Wouldn't quite say amazing but certainly decent, pleased Furman is signing we needed to sign him doubt Wellens will be the player we had a few years ago but if he gets fit could be decent for the team.
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According to the Leicester Mercury, preliminary negotiations have already begun.
The main stumbling block will be, I suspect, money. Wellens has just over a year left on his contract so presumably Leicester will want a fee, and he will be on good money there, which is why he left in the first place.
As he is now 33, I wonder how long we would get out of him? One season? Two tops?
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Yorkshire Evening Post says talks already underway
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/648318797?-12737:1601
Regards
Ray
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My son lives in Ipswich and he says that they were really impressed with his contribution last season to the point where they asked the Leicester about his availability.
I am a big fan of Wellens. In my view we have lacked someone to consistently make the killer pass since he left.
Welcome him back with open arms.
I think the question is "Is he better than Woods and Harper?"
Are you serious, please tell me that its a piss take.
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According to the Leicester Mercury, preliminary negotiations have already begun.
The main stumbling block will be, I suspect, money. Wellens has just over a year left on his contract so presumably Leicester will want a fee, and he will be on good money there, which is why he left in the first place.
As he is now 33, I wonder how long we would get out of him? One season? Two tops?
Fingers crossed if Leicester want him off their wages then they may be willing to let him leave for free to get something done quickly.
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Has Leicester have already released him I doubt that they could demand a huge sum?
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It partly depends on how we play. SODs possession game and all that passing through midfield suited Wellens I reckon.
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Our midfield was never the same when he left. Even Brian Stock could not reach his dizzy heights after his minder left. He is older i agree but he has experience in this division and hopefully we can sign him. He will be able to guide Furman and any young midfield players we can get. Lets hope now the cat is out the bag his signing happens and not just a worm to catch more season tickets.
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According to the Leicester Mercury, preliminary negotiations have already begun.
The main stumbling block will be, I suspect, money. Wellens has just over a year left on his contract so presumably Leicester will want a fee, and he will be on good money there, which is why he left in the first place.
As he is now 33, I wonder how long we would get out of him? One season? Two tops?
Why cant he be DRFC Version of Ryan Giggs or Paul Scholes, or Kevin Phillips, jesus he is 33 not 43.
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According to the Leicester Mercury, preliminary negotiations have already begun.
The main stumbling block will be, I suspect, money. Wellens has just over a year left on his contract so presumably Leicester will want a fee, and he will be on good money there, which is why he left in the first place.
As he is now 33, I wonder how long we would get out of him? One season? Two tops?
Why cant he be DRFC Version of Ryan Giggs or Paul Scholes, or Kevin Phillips, jesus he is 33 not 43.
I'm not sure Wellens has had quite the same career extending diet and yoga regime of Ryan Giggs... But you would think so long as he's reasonably fit his touch and footballing brain would enable him to compete at this level for a while yet.
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If we could bring in Wellens cheap enough alongside Furman and a season loan of Lundstram our midfield will be extremely solid. Those three added to Keegan, Syers, Cotterill, Copps and Bennett. We'll have just about everything. Then add in any of the young lads if they're good enough. That should definitely compete at Championship level.
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Actually, re my point about a fee - isn't he a free agent now? He signed a 4 year deal with LCFC in the summer of 2009 didn't he? The end of our first championship season. Did he extend whilst he was there?
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Actually, re my point about a fee - isn't he a free agent now? He signed a 4 year deal with LCFC in the summer of 2009 didn't he? The end of our first championship season. Did he extend whilst he was there?
Extended his deal in 2011 because he impressed. This new deal was 'lucrative' says DFP.
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Actually, re my point about a fee - isn't he a free agent now? He signed a 4 year deal with LCFC in the summer of 2009 didn't he? The end of our first championship season. Did he extend whilst he was there?
Extended his deal in 2011 because he impressed. This new deal was 'lucrative' says DFP.
Ah ok, cheers.
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99% certain he was released in last couple of days along with 6 others!!!!!
Read thread,,,,,,Leicester release 7 lol
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According to the Leicester Mercury, preliminary negotiations have already begun.
The main stumbling block will be, I suspect, money. Wellens has just over a year left on his contract so presumably Leicester will want a fee, and he will be on good money there, which is why he left in the first place.
As he is now 33, I wonder how long we would get out of him? One season? Two tops?
He's a professional so , barring njuries, should get 4 years min. why not?
i'd welcome him back
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I think he'll be a DRFC player come Monday evening.
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99% certain he was released in last couple of days along with 6 others!!!!!
Read thread,,,,,,Leicester release 7 lol
Not sure "released" is right word, he was told he should "Find himself another club" as he didn't feature in LCFC plans. So, as he is under contract still, they may demand a fee, small it may be, in order to "Move him on".
Wages is certainly going to be a stumbling block though, if Wellans wages kept pace with Mills wages at Reading and Leicester and Bolton, he will be on more than 20K a week. BIG BIG Drop required there.
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Go on then ... here's one for the statto's and nerds... players who have had two stints at the club? Can't actually think of any off the top of my head.
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99% certain he was released in last couple of days along with 6 others!!!!!
Read thread,,,,,,Leicester release 7 lol
Leicester haven't done theur retained list yet but he's expected to be released
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Go on then ... here's one for the statto's and nerds... players who have had two stints at the club? Can't actually think of any off the top of my head.
Alick Jeffrey, Laurie Sheffield, Alan Warboys, Both Snods,
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Chris Brown
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Mark Wilson has had 3.
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Dougie.
David Harle had 3 stints.
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Dave Penney, player then manager
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Duggie
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Our midfield was never the same when he left. Even Brian Stock could not reach his dizzy heights after his minder left. He is older i agree but he has experience in this division and hopefully we can sign him. He will be able to guide Furman and any young midfield players we can get. Lets hope now the cat is out the bag his signing happens and not just a worm to catch more season tickets.
I disagree. For me, we had a better midfield for 18 months when Oster replaced Wellens. Oster gave us a bit more unpredictable forward momentum. For a while in 2010 the midfield was quite excellent. We struck a balance between possession and rapid breaking beyond the midfield line that we rarely managed previously.
Which is not to denigrate Wellens. If he's anywhere near his old self, he'll be an excellent addition.
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Tim Ryan had two stints.
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Dennis Peacock, Scott Maxfield
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Barry Richardson?
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Paul Green(I hope) ;)
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Wellens while quick thinking was never the fastest mover so maybe the years will have been kind to him..
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Go on then ... here's one for the statto's and nerds... players who have had two stints at the club? Can't actually think of any off the top of my head.
Mark Wilson has had 3.
Jesus, Mark Wilson.
Can't get shot of him.
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Nicky Limber?
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The Free Press today says Richie Wellens is out first target. Wellens and Furman centre mid sounds amazing! :woohoo: :woohoo:
Worth a gamble without a doubt given he was one of best players to play to ever player for Rovers!
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My son lives in Ipswich and he says that they were really impressed with his contribution last season to the point where they asked the Leicester about his availability.
I am a big fan of Wellens. In my view we have lacked someone to consistently make the killer pass since he left.
Welcome him back with open arms.
I think the question is "Is he better than Woods and Harper?"
Are you serious, please tell me that its a piss take.
Course its a piss take. Surprised that has to be explained.
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I wrote an article for the fanzine last season about Rovers returning players, with a full list of appearances at that time. I am trying to attach it (Hope it is not too large)
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Russ Wilcox
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JOHN RYAN
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Go on then ... here's one for the statto's and nerds... players who have had two stints at the club? Can't actually think of any off the top of my head.
Alick Jeffrey, Laurie Sheffield, Alan Warboys, Both Snods,
Tommy Meagan came back after his spell in Finland
Where is he know?
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Full list of returning players in my attachment above if it can be read
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Go on then ... here's one for the statto's and nerds... players who have had two stints at the club? Can't actually think of any off the top of my head.
Mark Wilson has had 3.
Jesus, Mark Wilson.
Can't get shot of him.
According to the Star a few weeks ago he may well be returning again to join the coaching team. This season despite not making the bench most games he was stood with Brian on the touchline dressed almost like a coach so it seems he has been helping out coaching and training since he came back. He started learning his coaching role under SOD too.
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Go on then ... here's one for the statto's and nerds... players who have had two stints at the club? Can't actually think of any off the top of my head.
Mark Wilson has had 3.
Jesus, Mark Wilson.
Can't get shot of him.
According to the Star a few weeks ago he may well be returning again to join the coaching team. This season despite not making the bench most games he was stood with Brian on the touchline dressed almost like a coach so it seems he has been helping out coaching and training since he came back. He started learning his coaching role under SOD too.
He looked like a coach when he played as well. It took him 30 seconds to get up to top speed and his turning circle was about 50 feet.
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Jim Dobbin
Billy Bremner
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Go on then ... here's one for the statto's and nerds... players who have had two stints at the club? Can't actually think of any off the top of my head.
Mark Wilson has had 3.
Jesus, Mark Wilson.
Can't get shot of him.
According to the Star a few weeks ago he may well be returning again to join the coaching team. This season despite not making the bench most games he was stood with Brian on the touchline dressed almost like a coach so it seems he has been helping out coaching and training since he came back. He started learning his coaching role under SOD too.
He looked like a coach when he played as well. It took him 30 seconds to get up to top speed and his turning circle was about 50 feet.
That's a bit unfair BST - in fact I reckon that's Gareth Taylor you are thinking of. Wilson was more like a train when he played - just went up and down in straight lines puffing.
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I can't remember him outside of the centre circle, apart from one scuffed daisy cutter that somehow went in the net one time.
But Wellens? Yes please!
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Wilson was more like a train when he played - just went up and down in straight lines puffing.
I take it you didnt mean he played like he had a cigar on, Wilts.
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That's a bit unfair BST - in fact I reckon that's Gareth Taylor you are thinking of. Wilson was more like a train when he played - just went up and down in straight lines puffing.
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And Harper was the Signalman Wilts :laugh:
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I can't remember him outside of the centre circle, apart from one scuffed daisy cutter that somehow went in the net one time.
But Wellens? Yes please!
Strange I don't remember Willo's goal quite like that. This slagging off of a former player and a member of our coaching team is pathetic.
As for Wellens yes please.
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Wellens would certainly help us with a bit more craft in midfield which has been lacking for a while. Agree that Wellens is not the total solution and as said Oster also brought a slightly different way of opening up teams and creating space.
I hop it comes off.
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Hope it comes off, at the minute we've got Harper who's no where near good enough, Keegan likewise, and Syers and the youngsters, who'll have potential but are unproven in the championship.
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copps is in his 2 stint
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copps is in his 2 stint
Not quite.
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From the Leicester Mercury - Still a year left on his contract
"Former City striker Dickov knows Wellens well from their time together during the Scot's second stint at the club from 2008-2010 and he is said to be keen to work with him again.
Doncaster is a club Wellens knows extremely well, having made 97 appearances for them between 2007-09 before making the £1million switch to City.
It is understood that preliminary discussions have already been made over a potential return to the Keepmoat Stadium for Wellens, but that Dickov is looking to spend as little as possible to do so.
Wellens still has one year left on his contract and it is not yet known whether or not he will be released from it, or whether Doncaster would be expected to pay a fee to acquire him.[/b]
Agreeing terms could also be a potential sticking point in the deal as Doncaster would not be able to match the wages that Wellens is currently on at City.
But with Dickov so keen to get Wellens on board, and his future at City seemingly over, it looks like it could be a deal which suits both parties."
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Lets just hope we get the pitch sorted. Signing Wellens would be as pointless as mark Wilson bringing his boots on a Saturday if we don't.
Great footballer if love to see him back here.
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He'd be a great signing.
We'll need an experienced head such as his in the middle of the park if we're to have a good season.
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Now all we need is a striker who would like to return for a second stint :cool:
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Now all we need is a striker who would like to return for a second stint :cool:
I know one who looks a world-beater in training... :ermm:
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Sorry if its been mentioned before but according to paul goodwin on twitter he has been told he can leave for free
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Now all we need is a striker who would like to return for a second stint :cool:
Mirsad Bubulovic?
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Now all we need is a striker who would like to return for a second stint :cool:
Mirsad Bubulovic?
We`ll have to dig him up then, unless he got cremated!
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You'd have to dig him up first, Paul. He's brown bread. That said he couldn't be any worse...
Regarding Wellens, his game was never built around blistering pace so I don't see his age being an issue. With a year left on his deal at Leicester I wonder if they'd be prepared to pay some of his contract off to cut their wage bill which would help us to make up the difference.
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Now all we need is a striker who would like to return for a second stint :cool:
Mirsad Bubulovic?
We`ll have to dig him up then, unless he got cremated!
Was this the guy that was paraded around OBV as was announced as "The Greatest ever player to step foot on the Belle Vue turf"
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Now all we need is a striker who would like to return for a second stint :cool:
Mirsad Bubulovic?
We`ll have to dig him up then, unless he got cremated!
Was this the guy that was paraded around OBV as was announced as "The Greatest ever player to step foot on the Belle Vue turf"
That`s the the fella mate, made Guy Ipoua look like Pele, Puskas and Eusebio rolled into one
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I only remember him making one appearance.
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Now all we need is a striker who would like to return for a second stint :cool:
Mirsad Bubulovic?
We`ll have to dig him up then, unless he got cremated!
Was this the guy that was paraded around OBV as was announced as "The Greatest ever player to step foot on the Belle Vue turf"
That`s the the fella mate, made Guy Ipoua look like Pele, Puskas and Eusebio rolled into one
Carl Alford anyone?
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You'd have to dig him up first, Paul. He's brown bread. That said he couldn't be any worse...
Regarding Wellens, his game was never built around blistering pace so I don't see his age being an issue. With a year left on his deal at Leicester I wonder if they'd be prepared to pay some of his contract off to cut their wage bill which would help us to make up the difference.
Had no idea he'd died. Feel a bit bad now. So, how about Presic (or similar). Hope he's not dead too.
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I only remember him making one appearance.
He did - as a sub, never played for us again after that
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Wellens for me is probably the best footballer I have seen at Donny for many many years. Very creative, tenacious and very difficult to get the ball off. As someone said above, his game was never based on pace so I am pretty sure that he can do a good job for us. He is a bit older but I do think that even if he plays 3 quarters of the games in a season he will be a considerable asset. Loved watching him play.
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Who was the player who used to say that Wellens was the best player he played with and loved playing with him? Was it Copps or Oster, can't remember now.
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Who was the player who used to say that Wellens was the best player he played with and loved playing with him? Was it Copps or Oster, can't remember now.
Oster did n`t play with him
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You'd have to dig him up first, Paul. He's brown bread. That said he couldn't be any worse...
Regarding Wellens, his game was never built around blistering pace so I don't see his age being an issue. With a year left on his deal at Leicester I wonder if they'd be prepared to pay some of his contract off to cut their wage bill which would help us to make up the difference.
Had no idea he'd died. Feel a bit bad now. So, how about Presic (or similar). Hope he's not dead too.
Uros Predic? He must've been quite some player at the top of his game. Had a vicious shot on him.
As for worst players to make cameos for us, does anyone remember Dean Anton Williams (forward, not to be confused with Dean Paul Williams the goalkeeper who played in the same game)?
He played the first half of a match, I think at home to Darlo circa 1996 and was simply dreadful.
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I've just realised, if it was '96 that makes it 17 years ago.
17 bloody years. Feels like yesterday. Can I join the queue for a mid-life crisis please?
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I've just realised, if it was '96 that makes it 17 years ago.
17 bloody years. Feels like yesterday. Can I join the queue for a mid-life crisis please?
Haha, the quiz question thread on Euro 96 made me feel old, most of those players retired at least 5 years ago!
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I know, it's scary isn't it. there are young adults walking around who have never experienced that atmosphere of national euphoria that holding the tournament here generated. That is up until we were knocked out and the knuckle-draggers started smashing Volkswagens in the street!
Here's another one that cropped up the other day:
The lad sitting opposite me at work wasn't even born when Gazza wept in Italy!
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You'd have to dig him up first, Paul. He's brown bread. That said he couldn't be any worse...
Regarding Wellens, his game was never built around blistering pace so I don't see his age being an issue. With a year left on his deal at Leicester I wonder if they'd be prepared to pay some of his contract off to cut their wage bill which would help us to make up the difference.
Had no idea he'd died. Feel a bit bad now. So, how about Presic (or similar). Hope he's not dead too.
Uros Predic? He must've been quite some player at the top of his game. Had a vicious shot on him.
As for worst players to make cameos for us, does anyone remember Dean Anton Williams (forward, not to be confused with Dean Paul Williams the goalkeeper who played in the same game)?
He played the first half of a match, I think at home to Darlo circa 1996 and was simply dreadful.
Surely Prince Moncrieffe for his mid first half substitution where he kicked the crap out of the dressing room door at OBV?!
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Nope. Dean A. Williams made Moncrieffe look like Romario!
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Dennis Souza makes Habib Beye look like Franz Beckenbauer.
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Go on then ... here's one for the statto's and nerds... players who have had two stints at the club? Can't actually think of any off the top of my head.
Seems we've generally had a good history with returning players. Billy Bridgewater (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Bridgewater) (3x) and Billy Langham (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Langham) are two others from a while back.
I think Wellens is the obvious choice for us but worry that his wages will set a precedent that could make it more difficult for us in future wage negotiations with other players. As a one off, or with even him and a striker who is expensive, I think we can afford it.
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You'd have to dig him up first, Paul. He's brown bread. That said he couldn't be any worse...
Regarding Wellens, his game was never built around blistering pace so I don't see his age being an issue. With a year left on his deal at Leicester I wonder if they'd be prepared to pay some of his contract off to cut their wage bill which would help us to make up the difference.
Had no idea he'd died. Feel a bit bad now. So, how about Presic (or similar). Hope he's not dead too.
Uros Predic? He must've been quite some player at the top of his game. Had a vicious shot on him.
As for worst players to make cameos for us, does anyone remember Dean Anton Williams (forward, not to be confused with Dean Paul Williams the goalkeeper who played in the same game)?
He played the first half of a match, I think at home to Darlo circa 1996 and was simply dreadful.
Surely Prince Moncrieffe for his mid first half substitution where he kicked the crap out of the dressing room door at OBV?!
Say what you want about Moncrieffe, he managed to score 8 goals in that team.
And then was switched to right back for some bizarre reason.
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If he signs, does that mean Rigo has to trough some more bull testicles? :)
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my reply would be, look how well Griffin did... and hes still going.
with the loss of Martin Woods, who, when fit could make superb passes and crosses, we do need someone who can do that again.. i just wonder if there wasn't a younger alternative we could get cheaper
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I know, it's scary isn't it. there are young adults walking around who have never experienced that atmosphere of national euphoria that holding the tournament here generated. That is up until we were knocked out and the knuckle-draggers started smashing Volkswagens in the street!
Here's another one that cropped up the other day:
The lad sitting opposite me at work wasn't even born when Gazza wept in Italy!
I was two years old then. I'm the youngest in our office too. I can just about remember Brazil 94 and definitely Euro 96. Remember Dad was Home from work abroad for the Scotland game good fun.
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I know, it's scary isn't it. there are young adults walking around who have never experienced that atmosphere of national euphoria that holding the tournament here generated. That is up until we were knocked out and the knuckle-draggers started smashing Volkswagens in the street!
Here's another one that cropped up the other day:
The lad sitting opposite me at work wasn't even born when Gazza wept in Italy!
I was two years old then. I'm the youngest in our office too. I can just about remember Brazil 94 and definitely Euro 96. Remember Dad was Home from work abroad for the Scotland game good fun.
Brazil '94? :blink:
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Go on then ... here's one for the statto's and nerds... players who have had two stints at the club? Can't actually think of any off the top of my head.
Seems we've generally had a good history with returning players. Billy Bridgewater (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Bridgewater) (3x) and Billy Langham (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Langham) are two others from a while back.
Wow that's two great names from the very distant past BRR!
Just to clarify - the list in my attachment is a list of those who have played for Rovers in 2 or more spells, but during our league and Conference seasons only (and not counting those players who come on loan and then join permanently without playing for anyone else in between e.g. Mills, Gillett...)
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Technically - Paul Keegan has also had two stints with us! As I'm sure have many other players over the years that have been released then re-signed - the few below are names from the top of my head and not necessarily players to have been released and re-signed!
Others:
Paul Raven
Sulli (loan, then full)
Mike Jeffrey (loan than full)
Kieron Brady
Lee Turnbull
The list I'm sure goes on!
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Brady was class. That turn at Glanford Park was unbelievable.
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Duggie did it as well, almost forgiven him for playing for rotherscum
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The list I'm sure goes on!
It does. And it was set out in full by Dutch Uncle several pages back.
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Yep spotted it now BST cheers!
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Have we found the pen yet ?