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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: Rovers-on-Thames on May 31, 2013, 12:19:02 pm

Title: Yorkshire dialect
Post by: Rovers-on-Thames on May 31, 2013, 12:19:02 pm
Any of our older posters still talk like this?

Some classics like "off-come-dens", "addle some brass", "no bit middling". Got to admit (as a relative youngen) only word I still recognise is brass for money

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScELaXMCVis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScELaXMCVis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScELaXMCVis)
Title: Re: Yorkshire dialect
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on May 31, 2013, 12:24:39 pm
There's not really such a thing as "Yorkshire dialect". There are many sub-varieties. That old bloke is speaking the north country version.

Our Donny version is closer to a North Midlands dialect.

http://www.yorkshiredialect.com/Border%20text.htm
Title: Re: Yorkshire dialect
Post by: RedJ on May 31, 2013, 12:44:32 pm
Aye, if tha goes Hull, you'll find a different dialect - and I think even accent - in the east and the west of the city, iirc.

I still speak using a lot of dialectical terms, I love that kind of stuff as sad as it is.
Title: Re: Yorkshire dialect
Post by: Rovers-on-Thames on May 31, 2013, 01:06:55 pm
I'm proud to have a Yorkshire accent.

Having traveled quite a bit, in my experience it pretty much goes like this - rest of UK think we're yokels, rest of world is fascinated with how we speak.

Americans love the Yorkshire accent (they like British accents in general but I have found Yorkshire accent in particular). I've also had many random conversations with people asking me where I'm from or that they once knew someone from Sheffield or whatever and recognised my accent (also most foreigners often lump the whole of Northern England together and ask If you're from Manchester). When I put on a really thick accent non-native english speakers struggle to understand what I'm saying.

BST - you're right, they guy in the video has an accent which has overtones of being from further north than Yorkshire. But I see all the regional variations as subsets of one single fraternity. We are a true master race amongst the various tribes of England.
Title: Re: Yorkshire dialect
Post by: moses on May 31, 2013, 01:14:10 pm
http://www.yorkshiredialect.com/Border%20text.htm

What an interesting site, count me lunch break as wasted, work wise.
Title: Re: Yorkshire dialect
Post by: The L J Monk on May 31, 2013, 01:51:36 pm
What's Yorkshire dialect for "the Off Topic section isn't my cup of tea"?
Title: Re: Yorkshire dialect
Post by: River Don on May 31, 2013, 03:55:01 pm
I used to notice a difference between a North west Donny accent from a south east one. Not sure if I still can but the kids I went to school with from places like Adwick, Woodlands, Scawsby had a more Rotherham / Barnsley sounding accent from my friends from Bessecarr / town. I always thought they had more of an East Yorkshire twang.

Not that Donny has the strongest of Yorkshire accents, I think it's a good plain northern way of speaking.
Title: Re: Yorkshire dialect
Post by: moses on May 31, 2013, 04:44:05 pm
On a simialr vein to RD with differnet accents around Doncaster.
I once managed to "meet" a girl on holiday by correctly guessing she was from Thorne by her accent. They just seemed to sound different than us from Hatfield/Dunsville.

Also if you go up to the Scottish Borders, one mile on the English side they are very Northumbrian, one mile on the Scottish side they are the most Scottish sounding people in, well, Scotland. Wanted to accentuate the difference is suppose. A bit like Hatfield and Thorne...
Title: Re: Yorkshire dialect
Post by: River Don on May 31, 2013, 05:11:05 pm
Why do so many blokes from Leeds sound a bit... Well... Effeminate?

That Grayson bloke who used manage Leeds is an example? Larry, sorry, Simon.

Title: Re: Yorkshire dialect
Post by: not on facebook on May 31, 2013, 08:18:38 pm
I once got s shag in wentworth surrey because Of me accent back in mid 1980s,and fcuk me it happened to us again When working in Oslo one nite.

This bint pulls us because in her words ' she loved way i spoke'
Title: Re: Yorkshire dialect
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on May 31, 2013, 11:17:47 pm
Oslo

Was it the random capital letters that did  it for her? Meks me wet mi kecks any road.
Title: Re: Yorkshire dialect
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on May 31, 2013, 11:20:11 pm
I went to a left-footers' school in Wath. Kids from Hoyland, Elsecar, Rawmarsh, Bolton, Thurnscoe, Goldthorpe, Mexborough, Denaby, Conisbrough.

And you could guess to within 1 mile where someone came from. Nobody from Denaby said "laikin" for "playing". But all the kids from Wombwell did. The kids from Rawmarsh all extended their "a"s. As in buying Mors Bors from the shop.

It wo like hearing sumdi from a diffrent planet when a started theear.
Title: Re: Yorkshire dialect
Post by: Sandy Lane on June 01, 2013, 12:09:24 am
I do love the northern accent, and I'm so proud that I can pick it out from other English accents. Embarrassingly though, occasionally when I was at the Coal Hole with Exiles, I couldn't understand some of the words.  Could have been the beer though, Haha.  The one I remember specifically was when talking about some name Mckaiii.  Who is McKiiii asks I, to which they replied you don?t know who Willy Mckaiiii is?????   Oh, says I you mean Willy McKaaaay.   ;-).
Title: Re: Yorkshire dialect
Post by: not on facebook on June 01, 2013, 12:22:12 am
Oslo

Was it the random capital letters that did  it for her? Meks me wet mi kecks any road.

When i was first mixing in with the ex pats in Oslo,they all said that they had problems some more Than others
Trying to understand us.

It is a mixed bag Of ex pats,with most from London or home counties,brum,Wales,Scotland,mill towns in Lancashire and Chap from York and me from donny.

Never had problems with bods understanding us before,Even at Chelsea games where i spent a lot of miss spent Youth.

Nowt Odd as folk
Title: Re: Yorkshire dialect
Post by: Donnywolf on June 01, 2013, 07:30:36 am
Any of our older posters still talk like this?

Some classics like "off-come-dens", "addle some brass", "no bit middling". Got to admit (as a relative youngen) only word I still recognise is brass for money

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScELaXMCVis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScELaXMCVis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScELaXMCVis)

I was just reading a book in't Pub with t/ other night and it had lots of words and phrases that were common when I was a lad (Wolves won the FA Cup Final !!!) and which I had forgotten as they seem to have stopped being used

Foggie - First ( as in Cricket - I will bat foggie)
Seggie - Second (as above)
Laggie - last

They were three words that used to be used but are they still used today.

There were literally hundreds of examples in the book but as Yorkshire is so vast I recognised (or used) only around a third of them
Title: Re: Yorkshire dialect
Post by: not on facebook on June 01, 2013, 07:42:05 am
Bagie that book
Title: Re: Yorkshire dialect
Post by: Donnywolf on June 01, 2013, 10:20:28 am
No mentioning Baggies please !

Also thought of Neg-laggie (next to last)
Title: Re: Yorkshire dialect
Post by: River Don on June 01, 2013, 05:24:44 pm
I went to a left-footers' school in Wath. Kids from Hoyland, Elsecar, Rawmarsh, Bolton, Thurnscoe, Goldthorpe, Mexborough, Denaby, Conisbrough.

And you could guess to within 1 mile where someone came from. Nobody from Denaby said "laikin" for "playing". But all the kids from Wombwell did. The kids from Rawmarsh all extended their "a"s. As in buying Mors Bors from the shop.

It wo like hearing sumdi from a diffrent planet when a started theear.

Though we lived in Donny when I was growing up my Dad worked at British Steel in Rotherham, it became Firth Rixons. He decided we should join Rawmarsh swimming club. Kids there had a different accent altogether.

My Grandparents lived in Mexborough and we spent a lot of time over there. Technically still Donny but considering it is so close, I think they speak quite differently.

I reckon the big hill around High Melton/ Barnbrough is a rough dividing line between Donny accents and Don Valley.
Title: Re: Yorkshire dialect
Post by: River Don on June 01, 2013, 05:39:06 pm
Why do so many blokes from Leeds sound a bit... Well... Effeminate?

That Grayson bloke who used manage Leeds is an example? Larry, sorry, Simon.



A little research reveals it's not just me that thinks this. Apparently it's the accent of East Leeds that can sound a bit camp.
Title: Re: Yorkshire dialect
Post by: RobTheRover on June 05, 2013, 09:40:08 pm
Also if you go up to the Scottish Borders, one mile on the English side they are very Northumbrian, one mile on the Scottish side they are the most Scottish sounding people in, well, Scotland. Wanted to accentuate the difference is suppose. A bit like Hatfield and Thorne...

Spot on, moses.  I remember one year when Rovers were at Carlisle, we decided to carry on going a bit up to Gretna for a beer.  Walked into this boozer and thought I was 100 miles into Scotland, not a 100 yards.