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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: watto-drfc on June 11, 2013, 12:11:16 pm
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1st Round Draw next Monday at 09.30am
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We will be drawn against a lower League One side or League Two. I fancy Morecambe away
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Are they playing the 1st round midweek, or on a saturday like last season?
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Is the draw live on Sky Sports anywhere?
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IDM, it should be midweek. Last season's Saturday availability was thanks to the late start to the league season due to the Olympics
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Well the season kicks off on the 3rd August and we have a friendly on the 27th July so unless its going to be on the 10th I doubt it will be a Saturday.
Remember as well it is a seeded draw so we will be playing a League 1 or 2 club.
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It is taking place first midweek of the season. The draw is not live on TV, it is just being revealed next Monday morning.
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Well the season kicks off on the 3rd August and we have a friendly on the 27th July so unless its going to be on the 10th I doubt it will be a Saturday.
Remember as well it is a seeded draw so we will be playing a League 1 or 2 club.
Hopefully an away trip to a little League One side.
Bramall Lane anyone? ;)
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I thought seeded sides played at home?
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Aye they do. Didn't think that one through. :laugh:
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Well the season kicks off on the 3rd August and we have a friendly on the 27th July so unless its going to be on the 10th I doubt it will be a Saturday.
Remember as well it is a seeded draw so we will be playing a League 1 or 2 club.
Hopefully an away trip to a little League One side.
Bramall Lane anyone? ;)
Half of the sides in League 1 will also be seeded based on last seasons final table, so the Blunts will be one of the seeded sides it seems.
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Mansfield away please love going their
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Accrington Stanley to watch Billy Sharp play again! Oh wait a minute..........!!!
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Accrington fleetwood or chesterfield away
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I thought seeded sides played at home?
no not allways
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I thought seeded sides played at home?
no not allways
Then what is the point in seeding?, unless its a North South thing, surely that doesn't require seeding, just a map!
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....but where do you draw the line?
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That's relatively simple. Start at the northernmost and southernmost teams then go towards the midlands until there's an equal amount in both sets I'd imagine.
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Chesterfield away would be nice
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I thought seeded sides played at home?
no not allways
Then what is the point in seeding?, unless its a North South thing, surely that doesn't require seeding, just a map!
The point is so that the better clubs have a better chance of going through. I think it is too unfair to not only seed the draw but make every seeded team automatically at home. Hardly any chance for lower league clubs to go through at all. As far as I know they alternate the seeds home/away throughout the draw.
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So, how does this seeding thing work?. Am I right in saying that there are a couple of "Championship" clubs in the first round ( DRFC, BABAFC,YTFC excepted ), so the sides in round 1 that are in the Championship are seeded, then maybe top half league 1, and top portion of L2.
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At least we won't be drawn against Notts County!
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Could see it being Bradford as we have preseason friendly the last game before the new season starts - just like our 3 games against Oldham last season!
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or like the 5 times we played Derby in one season a couple of years ago
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Yeah, forgot about that one! Definitely Bradford then!
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not long
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Mansfield away please
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It's roachdale at home
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Make it free for season ticket holders to get a bigger gate.
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Mardy arsed ex dingle boss it is then
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Could be our first home game then, winnable tie at home though to a team two leagues below. Ties of the round must be PNE V Blackpool and Rotherham v Wednesday.
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It's roachdale at home
I reckon we will win TENCH - nil
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It's roachdale at home
I reckon we will win TENCH - nil
That`s a gudgeon donnywolf :)
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I thought seeded sides played at home?
no not allways
Then what is the point in seeding?, unless its a North South thing, surely that doesn't require seeding, just a map!
The point is so that the better clubs have a better chance of going through. I think it is too unfair to not only seed the draw but make every seeded team automatically at home. Hardly any chance for lower league clubs to go through at all. As far as I know they alternate the seeds home/away throughout the draw.
I always thought the point was for the smaller clubs to get a better chance of playing a bigger club,I know theres not much difference at this stage but when Premiership and some championship teams are involved it gives the little clubs who get through a high chance of a big club to visit and more gate revenue.But the fact that the bigger clubs get a home tie now makes me wonder if your right?
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Happy with the draw and with this been Rochdale's first trip to the Keepmoat, there may just be a few extra away fans coming to boost the crowd too.
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I thought seeded sides played at home?
no not allways
Then what is the point in seeding?, unless its a North South thing, surely that doesn't require seeding, just a map!
The point is so that the better clubs have a better chance of going through. I think it is too unfair to not only seed the draw but make every seeded team automatically at home. Hardly any chance for lower league clubs to go through at all. As far as I know they alternate the seeds home/away throughout the draw.
I always thought the point was for the smaller clubs to get a better chance of playing a bigger club,I know theres not much difference at this stage but when Premiership and some championship teams are involved it gives the little clubs who get through a high chance of a big club to visit and more gate revenue.But the fact that the bigger clubs get a home tie now makes me wonder if your right?
Not sure that bit about bigger clubs getting home ties rings true, this is the draw as it was made. in fact I cant see any sort of sequence to it. Ok one pot is seeded one not, but how it is decided who should be drawn first ( if separate pots are involved ) is beyond my tiny grey cells.
Bury v Crewe Alexandra
Shrewsbury Town v Bolton Wanderers
Middlesbrough v Accrington Stanley
Doncaster Rovers v Rochdale
Preston North End v Blackpool
Barnsley v Scunthorpe United
Tranmere Rovers v Mansfield Town
York City v Burnley
Notts County v Fleetwood Town
Sheffield United v Burton Albion
Oldham Athletic v Derby County
Carlisle United v Blackburn Rovers
Morecambe v Wolverhampton Wanderers
Nottingham Forest v Hartlepool United
Leeds United v Chesterfield
Huddersfield Town v Bradford City
Rotherham United v Sheffield Wednesday
Port Vale v Walsall
Gillingham v Bristol City
AFC Bournemouth v Portsmouth
Wycombe Wanderers v Leicester City
Brentford v Dagenham and Redbridge
Exeter City v Queens Park Rangers
Charlton Athletic v Oxford United
Southend United v Yeovil Town
Millwall v AFC Wimbledon
Swindon Town v Torquay United
Birmingham City v Plymouth Argyle
Stevenage v Ipswich Town
Cheltenham Town v Crawley Town
Bristol Rovers v Watford
Northampton Town v Milton Keynes Dons
Leyton Orient v Coventry City
Colchester United v Peterborough United
Brighton and Hove Albion v Newport County
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16 seeded teams at home
17 seeded teams are away
Normal distribution, or planned by some evil bigwig in FL towers?
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All seeded teams are drawn first to be either home or away so after the seeds have been drawn we get something like this:
Doncaster vs ????
???? vs Blackburn
The unseeded teams are then drawn to fill in the gaps.
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I make it 16 and 19.
So, a "seed" is drawn, then a letter (H or A). Then the "unseeded" teams drawn to fill in the list.
All becomes clear now. Thank you.
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Of the 70 teams there are 34 south and 36 north teams meaning there is never going to be an equal amount of home/away ties but it is usually pretty much equal.
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You are all trying to make out it is planned and complicated. They just throw them all up in the air and see which way they land, name up is home, name down is away, I thought everyone knew that?
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Its all a conspiracy :blink:
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If the wednesday get a home draw the first league fixture boxing day and the last league fixture think how much money they have been presented just for having representation on the FA. Not a lot changes when it comes to making money this is not the first time Rotherham have been at home to them in the competition or another cup competition and it was televised the last time as well. Yes I do think the worst of our big clubs.
Well they used to be big long ago in the mist of time
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All seeded teams are drawn first to be either home or away so after the seeds have been drawn we get something like this:
Doncaster vs ????
???? vs Blackburn
The unseeded teams are then drawn to fill in the gaps.
Is that why it isn't televised? it'd look f**king daft.
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Didn't we play Rochdale years ago when in Conf, and sides could enter the JPT?
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We played them in 03/04 when we won division 3 I know that much
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It's roachdale at home
I reckon we will win TENCH - nil
That`s a gudgeon donnywolf :)
Cheers but just realised ....
....we were bound to draw them cos it makes it COC-ROACH-DALE
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I remember playing them at Spotland and Brighty scoring late on, a whole batch of Rovers fans packed the stand down the side of the pitch and went ballistic when we scored!
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I remember playing them at Spotland and Brighty scoring late on, a whole batch of Rovers fans packed the stand down the side of the pitch and went ballistic when we scored!
Yes it looked bleak for a while and then that goal sorted it for us
I remember further back Rovers scoring and the ball actually hit the stanchion and of course it not being given. May have been 68/9 (as we won the League - and they eventually got promoted for the first time in their history)
They have done it just once more (may be twice) and so we should have nowt to complain about !
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Anyone remember the Kerry Dixon era game where we lost to nine men? Like most of that period I have blanked it from my mind.