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Title: Lost pubs
Post by: roversdude on July 29, 2013, 08:36:50 am
Heard that the Newton is shutting down, can't believe how many pubs have disappeared
Anyone have any favourites now gone
I can remember happy times in Blue Bell, Cecil et al
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: SoundbiteBarmyArmy on July 29, 2013, 08:41:50 am
It's not shut down, but I used to enjoy The Cumberland, it was a pub that sold food (decent food as well), but they did it up a few years ago and it's more of a restaurant that sells beer.
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: roversdude on July 29, 2013, 09:34:37 am
Thursday night when nurses got paid was a cracking night in Cumberland
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: nightporter on July 29, 2013, 10:08:15 am
Not in town but the Westminster club in Intake's now gone.
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: RobTheRover on July 29, 2013, 10:10:04 am
Bloody hell, I never knew that Nighty.

Where is Basher Morris going to drink now?
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: RobTheRover on July 29, 2013, 10:12:12 am
The Station Hotel in Rosso was always the first port of call on my friday night pub crawls, and the first pub I bought a beer in (aged 14).  I had my 18th birthday party there, and the landlord wouldnt believe me as I'd been coming in there for years.  lol
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: roversdude on July 29, 2013, 11:12:52 am
Westminster has been gone a while, Benbow was knocked down recently too
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: podrover73 on July 29, 2013, 12:21:00 pm
Heard that the Newton is shutting down, can't believe how many pubs have disappeared
Anyone have any favourites now gone
I can remember happy times in Blue Bell, Cecil et al

Went past the Newton the other day ,it was a hot day and there were plenty of people out there drinking -thought it was doing well?

Others that have gone recently -Cheshire Cheese looks like it has been reglazed for a new venture.
Benbow recently pulled down completely.

A new one opening on August 5th The House Martin on Wheatley Hall Road - not sure if there is the clientele around there to sustain it but will see (Marstons Pub)
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: nightporter on July 29, 2013, 12:54:28 pm
Park Hotel is on its arse too.
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on July 29, 2013, 01:14:11 pm
The Whisper in Bentley's gone. A pub I lived in (my Dad was the landlord) in Hoyland was demolished a few years ago too...
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: drfc1951 on July 29, 2013, 03:23:36 pm
The Royal in Rosso, also Radburn club dodgy commitee there.
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Mike_F on July 29, 2013, 05:23:59 pm
The Wessie club was the first place I ever worked. Started as pot wash lad at 15 then went onto the bar. Some right "characters"* back in the day. The smoking ban will have been the cause of its demise, no doubt. It saddened me to see the place I spent many nights and just about the whole of one Christmas working reduced to a pile of rubble. When I think about it the memories come flooding back. I used to take great pride in polishing the brass beer taps, chucking beer mats at the concert room clock at the end of a shift and stealing bag after bag of bar snacks! Then there was the initialtion of showing a new glass collector how to clean the glass wash machine:

"You need to get the filter out of the back to put the salt in. No right at the back. No, get your head in there" Then turning the f**ker on and holding in the door closed sensor. What larks!

It's also the place where I sampled my first "Blastaway" (Diamond White cider & Castaway in a pint pot topped up with vodka). It's making me more nostalgic the more I type and bringin back memories of a few folk who are no longer with us. Eeh, the times I had in there when I were a lad. All for a little brown envelope wi' 50 quid in at at end o' week. It were a small fortune to a lad o' 16 wi' world at his feet and a pint in his hand!

*alcoholics
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Mike_F on July 29, 2013, 05:26:09 pm
Thinking about it, I'm evidently a right old git because one of my old schools (Wheatley Hills Middle), the first place I worked (above) and the football ground where I fell in love with the game and my club are all gone now. Near brings a tear to me eye!
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: RedJ on July 29, 2013, 06:11:38 pm
The Buffalo in Moorends and the Benbow I think in Wheatley are gone too now.
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: roversdude on July 29, 2013, 06:13:31 pm
Yeah part of my old school boarded up in town waiting to become part of the cultural quarter (I think)
Add to the list
Vine
Prince of Wales

Park hotel really is run down mate sad its always been our pre match pub
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: jonnydog on July 29, 2013, 06:19:02 pm
I thought they were shutting the Park hotel, last I heard anyway.

The question is, from all of this, how the hell the 'Staff of Life' remains open.
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Al4475 on July 29, 2013, 06:35:22 pm
At least two of em (if not three) in Bentley are all boarded up too - The Drum and The Bayhorse(?) I noticed on passing through the other day - the other one on that stretch of road is for lease again too!

The sidings also gone - but I think that's been closed a year or so at least!

Park Hotel - many a great Friday Night, New Years Eve and Chrimbo Eve in there as a younger fella!

I heard the Westminster had gone Nightporter - but haven't been up that end of Intake for a while - in fact last time I was in there was more than likely with you about 10 years ago.

 
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Filo on July 29, 2013, 06:47:23 pm
The Fox (Alick Jeffrey used to be landlord), Peacock, King George Hotel, Demi, Welfare, Mosses (Reform Club), all now closed or demolished in Stainy, and the Harvester is up for sale. The Abbey in Dunscroft is no longer around either!

White Hart in Thorne is shut and boarded up
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Pintolager on July 29, 2013, 06:59:41 pm
At least two of em (if not three) in Bentley are all boarded up too - The Drum and The Bayhorse(?) I noticed on passing through the other day - the other one on that stretch of road is for lease again too!


 

The Bay Horse re-opened on Friday, but I have heard that the Drum will be knocked down, but that is just a rumour. Bentley used to be great for a pub crawl back in the day, but has gone the same way as lots of places with closures.
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: RedJ on July 29, 2013, 07:38:09 pm
The Fox (Alick Jeffrey used to be landlord), Peacock, King George Hotel, Demi, Welfare, Mosses (Reform Club), all now closed or demolished in Stainy, and the Harvester is up for sale. The Abbey in Dunscroft is no longer around either!

White Hart in Thorne is shut and boarded up
Is the Mailed Horse being shut down? last time I drove through that had them metal window things up.
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Filo on July 29, 2013, 07:46:33 pm
The Fox (Alick Jeffrey used to be landlord), Peacock, King George Hotel, Demi, Welfare, Mosses (Reform Club), all now closed or demolished in Stainy, and the Harvester is up for sale. The Abbey in Dunscroft is no longer around either!

White Hart in Thorne is shut and boarded up
Is the Mailed Horse being shut down? last time I drove through that had them metal window things up.


Mailed Horse is still open,although it has closed and reopened a few times, I think it`s for sale now
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: MrFrost on July 29, 2013, 08:39:05 pm
Newton is my local. First i've heard of it, although I wouldn't be surprised.
The local pub scene is dead. Give it 10 years, there won't be many pubs around at all.
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: afro goal machine on July 29, 2013, 10:31:17 pm
At least two of em (if not three) in Bentley are all boarded up too - The Drum and The Bayhorse(?) I noticed on passing through the other day - the other one on that stretch of road is for lease again too!


 

The Bay Horse re-opened on Friday, but I have heard that the Drum will be knocked down, but that is just a rumour. Bentley used to be great for a pub crawl back in the day, but has gone the same way as lots of places with closures.

good companions been closed a while, now flats  :(
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: roversdude on July 29, 2013, 10:33:09 pm
Daughter goes in and came home saying its due to shut end of the month
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: roversdude on July 29, 2013, 10:34:48 pm
From my time digging coal, York now wok1
Royal gone
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: jonnydog on July 29, 2013, 10:44:27 pm
Greyhound in Edlo is long gone too. Used to frequent it regular in my later school years.
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: BobG on July 29, 2013, 11:06:18 pm
What was that pub called, years ago, up by the high rise flats just south of the railway station? Used to sell Darleys. Whether you liked Darley's or not, it's always good to have some variety. And the Corner Pin better not be gone. I shall personally nuke Donny if that ever closes. And the Magdelene in the Market Place. I heard its a toffee nosed joint now though. Used to be a shit hole of the highest order. Shit literally (and I do mean that) running on the floor in the bogs. But the beer... Oh that Tetleys. It was sublime. IanH can tell you all about that. Last port of call it was on many a Saturday night.

Is the Turf Tavern still there? My first ever regular watering hole. Brendan and Peter K used to drink on there too. Can't think why i used to go there!

Cheers

BobG
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: jonnydog on July 29, 2013, 11:13:08 pm
What was that pub called, years ago, up by the high rise flats just south of the railway station? Used to sell Darleys. Whether you liked Darley's or not, it's always good to have some variety. And the Corner Pin better not be gone. I shall personally nuke Donny if that ever closes. And the Magdelene in the Market Place. I heard its a toffee nosed joint now though. Used to be a shit hole of the highest order. Shit literally (and I do mean that) running on the floor in the bogs. But the beer... Oh that Tetleys. It was sublime. IanH can tell you all about that. Last port of call it was on many a Saturday night.

Is the Turf Tavern still there? My first ever regular watering hole. Brendan and Peter K used to drink on there too. Can't think why i used to go there!

Cheers

BobG


I believe the corner pin is still up and running. Was it the Corporation Brewery Taps you were on about near the high rises?
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: jonrover on July 29, 2013, 11:51:10 pm
The two I miss the most are the Yarborough and the Moon in Carcroft. Back in the day the Yarborough was brilliant on a Sunday if the Dons were at home. Without sounding biased the Yarborough was without doubt the best boozer close to a rugby ground anywhere in the country, and in the early to mid 90s' I'd done every ground on my travels. Real shame when it shut and burned down. And the Moon was our local for work in my first job. We used to pile into the moon on a Friday dinner without fail, couple of pints and a chip butty and a few games of pool. Happy days!
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: RobTheRover on July 30, 2013, 02:13:32 am
At least two of em (if not three) in Bentley are all boarded up too - The Drum and The Bayhorse(?) I noticed on passing through the other day - the other one on that stretch of road is for lease again too!


 

The Bay Horse re-opened on Friday, but I have heard that the Drum will be knocked down, but that is just a rumour. Bentley used to be great for a pub crawl back in the day, but has gone the same way as lots of places with closures.

good companions been closed a while, now flats  :(

The Druids has reopened though I noticed last week.
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Dagenham Rover on July 30, 2013, 05:30:11 am
What was that pub called, years ago, up by the high rise flats just south of the railway station? Used to sell Darleys. Whether you liked Darley's or not, it's always good to have some variety. And the Corner Pin better not be gone. I shall personally nuke Donny if that ever closes. And the Magdelene in the Market Place. I heard its a toffee nosed joint now though. Used to be a shit hole of the highest order. Shit literally (and I do mean that) running on the floor in the bogs. But the beer... Oh that Tetleys. It was sublime. IanH can tell you all about that. Last port of call it was on many a Saturday night.

Is the Turf Tavern still there? My first ever regular watering hole. Brendan and Peter K used to drink on there too. Can't think why i used to go there!

Cheers

BobG


I believe the corner pin is still up and running. Was it the Corporation Brewery Taps you were on about near the high rises?

The Vine is the one you are on about Bob
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Donnywolf on July 30, 2013, 06:49:13 am
The Fox (Alick Jeffrey used to be landlord), Peacock, King George Hotel, Demi, Welfare, Mosses (Reform Club), all now closed or demolished in Stainy, and the Harvester is up for sale. The Abbey in Dunscroft is no longer around either!

White Hart in Thorne is shut and boarded up
Is the Mailed Horse being shut down? last time I drove through that had them metal window things up.


Mailed Horse is still open,although it has closed and reopened a few times, I think it`s for sale now

Looks shut again - but as you say is "For Sale"
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Donnywolf on July 30, 2013, 06:50:24 am


I believe the corner pin is still up and running. Was it the Corporation Brewery Taps you were on about near the high rises?
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The Vine atop Balby Bridge was a Darleys pub (close to High rise flats too)
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: roversdude on July 30, 2013, 07:40:31 am
Thanks guys for joining in
Although its still a pub (?) Beethams has long gone, spent a few hours in there
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: RedRover45 on July 30, 2013, 08:03:44 am
I used to work in the Blue Bell on Baxtergate in my youth. Fine pub sadly gone in the 80's. think it lasted a couple more years as a poncy bar called The Garden Bar but in its heyday I loved The Blue Bell.
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: RedRover45 on July 30, 2013, 08:09:48 am
Speaking of my youth, did anybody else's weekend pub crawl start at the Yorkist. Followed by Blue Bell, Beethams, The Castle, The Woolpack, The George, White Bear, Kings Head, Hallcross, Regents Archives, and finishing in The Saracens before a kebab and a last run to the North Bus Station to catch the last bus, or if we missed it, straight into the Main Line. Those were the days, so many happy memories and also sad ones that a lot of them are no longer around.
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: roversdude on July 30, 2013, 08:18:00 am
Wow just about route we used take
I used to hate hearing them blow the whistle for buses to go, amount of times I would get to where McDonald's is now and hear the shrill sound of a walk home
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: roversdude on July 30, 2013, 08:19:49 am
What was the pub opposite Arndale that was set back bit of a long narrow entrance
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Donnywolf on July 30, 2013, 08:28:46 am
What was the pub opposite Arndale that was set back bit of a long narrow entrance

nAGS hEAD ?
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Pintolager on July 30, 2013, 09:20:06 am
At least two of em (if not three) in Bentley are all boarded up too - The Drum and The Bayhorse(?) I noticed on passing through the other day - the other one on that stretch of road is for lease again too!


 

The Bay Horse re-opened on Friday, but I have heard that the Drum will be knocked down, but that is just a rumour. Bentley used to be great for a pub crawl back in the day, but has gone the same way as lots of places with closures.

good companions been closed a while, now flats  :(

The Druids has reopened though I noticed last week.

It has indeed Rob, now called "Adey's Bar ;-)
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Mike_F on July 30, 2013, 09:25:27 am
That's the one, DW. I believe when it was built it was quite a grand hotel that ended up being converted to shops over the years leaving just the narrow bar. Now a bookies.

If you look up at the architecture you may still be able to see the stone nags' heads marking the original boundary. I haven't done so for a while so I'll have to check next time I'm in town.

It always irks me that there seems to be no control over what sort of tacky signage shops put up below some quite appealing architecture. There really ought to be some sort of planning permission process for shop fronts.
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Mike_F on July 30, 2013, 09:31:12 am
I used to drink (and work) in The Sportsman on Armthorpe Rd. Back in the days when Tim Ryan, Sir Francis and a few other Rovers lads were regulars in there. They didn't half put some ale away!

I went in a year or so ago and was really disappointed with what a shithole it's become since the Benbow closed. Sounds snobbish but there were some right "rogues"* in there. The atmosphere was pretty unpleasant to say the least.

*Drug dealing scumbags
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: roversdude on July 30, 2013, 10:49:43 am
Thanks DW of course it was
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: podrover73 on July 30, 2013, 11:33:58 am
Speaking of my youth, did anybody else's weekend pub crawl start at the Yorkist. Followed by Blue Bell, Beethams, The Castle, The Woolpack, The George, White Bear, Kings Head, Hallcross, Regents Archives, and finishing in The Saracens before a kebab and a last run to the North Bus Station to catch the last bus, or if we missed it, straight into the Main Line. Those were the days, so many happy memories and also sad ones that a lot of them are no longer around.

Used to do pretty much the same crawl except my bus left the Southern Bus station - drivers used to take great pleasure in driving straight past you as you ran to catch the last bus 
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: ravenrover on July 30, 2013, 12:10:48 pm
Is the Railway Tavern still on the go in Bentley?
AAHHH the Drum my 1st pub 1966 at 14, gang of us from DVHS used to go in the little snug to the right of the door as you went in on a Wednesday night. Behaved ourselves so the landlord was quite happy. Had a visit from the Constabulary one evening a sergeant and a lady officer, he stood in the doorway looked at us smiled and walked out, we went very quiet!
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: eastender on July 30, 2013, 12:27:21 pm
I travel through Hexthorpe to work and over the last 15 years or so they have lost.....

The Plant (burnt out shell)
The Rising Sun (Change of use)
Eden grove (Burnt out ,now gone)
Hexthorpe House (Burnt out, now gone)
Langer Lane  WMC (boarded up)

I think the only place left to get a pint in Hexthorpe is The Maltings Gym/Squash Club.
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Pintolager on July 30, 2013, 12:39:28 pm
Is the Railway Tavern still on the go in Bentley?


It is raven! Closed down for a few months until new owners took over. Those same owners have also taken over at the Bay Horse too.

Does anyone know if the Ridgewood on Barnsley Road is re-open? I know it closed down a few years ago!
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Muttley on July 30, 2013, 12:47:19 pm
And the Magdelene in the Market Place. I heard its a toffee nosed joint now though.

Bob, what do you mean by "toffee nosed"?
I believe The Magdalene is now frequented by the gay community...in which case toffee nosed might be completely appropriate!
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: niteowler on July 30, 2013, 01:56:38 pm
Anybody been past the Fox and Hounds at  Wadworth lately looks like a War Zone, nothing but professional vandalism.   Used to be a cracking pub years ago.
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: eastender on July 30, 2013, 02:22:22 pm
Anybody been past the Fox and Hounds at  Wadworth lately looks like a War Zone, nothing but professional vandalism.   Used to be a cracking pub years ago.

They've knocked the extension bit on the side down , but the rest is a listed building so will have to be preserved.
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: eastender on July 30, 2013, 02:33:02 pm
Balby has lost quite a few in the recent past

 The Vine  (Bull Dozed)
 The Prince Of Wales (Change of use)
 The Britannia (Closed)
 The Ashmount WMC (Burnt Out, now gone)
 The Cecil (Change of use)
 British Ropes Social Club (Bull Dozed)
 British Ropes Sports Club (Bull Dozed)

 There may be more that i've missed , but quite a few more are on there last legs.  :(
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: roversdude on July 30, 2013, 04:15:56 pm
Being a Balby lad we used to try and do the crawl from winning post to town, ah the joys of a lost youth
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: RedRover45 on July 30, 2013, 06:25:12 pm
Anyone remember the Underground in Bowers Fold near the market. You went downstairs and if you turned left at the bottom you were ok, but if you turned right and went through a velvet curtain you ended up in the gay part. Had to go in there while you we're still pretty sober lol
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: ravenrover on July 30, 2013, 06:31:58 pm
Wasn't that The Silver Link? If it wasn't where was it?
Back in my mind addled youth it was where I used to frequent, passing pieces of Wrigleys in silver foil round just to upset the "undercover" drug squad, and of course who could forget Brew 10
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: eastender on July 30, 2013, 06:37:37 pm
Wasn't that The Silver Link? If it wasn't where was it?
Back in my mind addled youth it was where I used to frequent, passing pieces of Wrigleys in silver foil round just to upset the "undercover" drug squad, and of course who could forget Brew 10

Wasn't the Kings head called the Silver Link in the 60's.  :unsure:
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: ravenrover on July 30, 2013, 06:39:06 pm
Yes I think you are correct
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: not on facebook on July 30, 2013, 08:36:53 pm
The Buffalo in Moorends and the Benbow I think in Wheatley are gone too now.


Is uncle arthurs still up and running in moreends?
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: RedJ on July 30, 2013, 08:38:32 pm
The Buffalo in Moorends and the Benbow I think in Wheatley are gone too now.


Is uncle arthurs still up and running in moreends?
I thin so yep, that's the most popular one now it seems.
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: not on facebook on July 30, 2013, 08:48:41 pm
The pub near the high rise flats was the fiztwilliam

Yorkist near clock corner i could never understand why that shut down as it allways Seemed packed from my memory.come out Of nags then into the yorkist.

Nags head started to loose money in the till When  the ,local blacks took over that place  in 1980s friday sat and sunday nite,due to fact they was far too Busy dancing Than drinking.

Saracens was the pub for me on rovers matchdays,and during the week there was some reet rum drinkers present.must have Been the roughest pub in town centre,behind the high bar for last orders friday and saturday as every doncaster football hooligan from rovers,Leeds,blades,Owls,man utd,Liverpool,everton
Would end up on there.

There was allways a punch ups as chucking out time was Been carrier out,some Been massive and in the main donnywhites v ddr lads

Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Donnywolf on July 30, 2013, 09:04:50 pm
Anyone remember the Underground in Bowers Fold near the market. You went downstairs and if you turned left at the bottom you were ok, but if you turned right and went through a velvet curtain you ended up in the gay part. Had to go in there while you we're still pretty sober lol

I remember the Underground well and always turned at the bottom (left that is). It changed its name to Wellington Vaults. Whatever happened to him ? Not seen on here for a while that I have noticed anyway



The Silver Link originally named after the A4 Loco (Mallard type) in Bradford Row that did become the Kings Head

Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: roversdude on July 30, 2013, 09:15:18 pm
In less politically correct times going to underground for a ruck was a bit of a sport on a Saturday night
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Savvy on July 30, 2013, 09:42:51 pm
What was that pub called, years ago, up by the high rise flats just south of the railway station? Used to sell Darleys. Whether you liked Darley's or not, it's always good to have some variety. And the Corner Pin better not be gone. I shall personally nuke Donny if that ever closes. And the Magdelene in the Market Place. I heard its a toffee nosed joint now though. Used to be a shit hole of the highest order. Shit literally (and I do mean that) running on the floor in the bogs. But the beer... Oh that Tetleys. It was sublime. IanH can tell you all about that. Last port of call it was on many a Saturday night.

Is the Turf Tavern still there? My first ever regular watering hole. Brendan and Peter K used to drink on there too. Can't think why i used to go there!

Cheers

BobG

The pub you are referring to was called the Vine Bob! Prince of Wales now gone, as is the Ashmount Club!!!!
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: not on facebook on July 30, 2013, 09:53:08 pm
Quote from: RedRover45 link=topic=241044.msg361146#msg361146
date=1375205112
Anyone remember the Underground in Bowers Fold near the market. You went downstairs and if you
turned left at the bottom you were ok, but if you turned right and went through a velvet curtain you ended up in the gay part. Had to go in there while you we're still pretty sober lol


Wellingtonvaults,used drink with the said donnywhite
Round town week in week out some 25 years ago



I remember the Underground well and always turned at
the bottom (left that is). It changed its name to Wellington Vaults. Whatever happened to him ? Not seen on here for a while that I have noticed anyway



The Silver Link originally named after the A4 Loco (Mallard type) in Bradford Row that did become the Kings Head


Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: BobG on July 30, 2013, 11:38:40 pm
Thanks everyone. What a cracking thread. If anyone knows IanH, get him to take a look. He was a connoisseur of Donny pubs in the 70's.

Used to quite like the Wheatley Hotel too. Did nice pint of draught shandy for when I was driving! Who ever sees draught shandy these days?

And yes, I did venture into the Underground once. And through the velvet curtain too.... A long standing mate from school told me and another mate one evening hat he wanted to take us out. He took us there! And then he announced he was a nine bob note. Christ on a bike! But actually, the guys in there seemed pretty pleasant. The mate and I just had to make sure we stood with our backs against a wall.

Cheers

BobG
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: roversdude on July 31, 2013, 03:37:23 am
Thanks again for contributing to this guys
Whilst driving back from taking my little lad swimming at Dearne Valley couldn't help but notice how many pubs have gone around Denaby/Conisbrough - Denaby Hotel, Station and the one on Sheffield Road next to traffic lights ?

Rockingham  on Bennethorpe has also gone, shame we used to sneak in there when at school

Anyone remember the Polish club near the market, upstairs used to be a cracking rock place
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Donnywolf on July 31, 2013, 06:24:24 am
Polonia Polski Club

I used to follow Bitter Suite here there and everywhere and the were once booked to play there right on the corner of NH Road The room was small to say the least and in the end they decided not to play

I did see them play at Rockware Club once and even that was tight. Baz the Lead Singers first comment was "Hi and welcome to our front Room " and pointing to the floor he said "there is a beer mat down here if anyone fancies a dance !"
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: roversdude on July 31, 2013, 08:44:37 am
Remember them DW always tipped to make it but never quite got the break, did they fragment into others bands?
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Yargo on July 31, 2013, 10:18:15 am
Remember them DW always tipped to make it but never quite got the break, did they fragment into others bands?
John Parr?
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Donnywolf on July 31, 2013, 08:01:09 pm
Remember them DW always tipped to make it but never quite got the break, did they fragment into others bands?

Yes a strange tale as far as I recall

Bitter Suite were a regular possibly resident Group on Terry Wogan Show on Radio One when he was but a lad (hard to imagine but it happens to us all) and they were about a 7 piece Band with a Brass section .... So Radio One regulars

Then they moved into TV and were on a Prog called "Lift off with Ayesha" which was mainly aimed at Kids and featured amongst other characters "Ollie Beak" a talking Owl ! It was in this period I remember them releasing a Single (for there were NO Downloads in those days don't yer know) called Goodbye America. The Band was down to a 4 or maybe 5 piece by then and they all wore huge White Hats about a foot tall and white Suits which may have been coloured with Stars and Stripes

Then they "came home" to South Yorkshire and played Clubs and Pubs here, there and everywhere for years and they were a brilliant cover Band playing Rock numbers incredibly well and as far away from Goodbye America as they could get

They "signed" John Parr and he was fantastic to watch and with the Lead Singer Baz performing during each song they were well worth watching and as I said earlier there were hordes of people who followed them around and you would see the same people in Rosso Edlo Thorne Stainy Mexbro etc etc

There is still a Web Site which comes up if you search for Bitter Suite but I cant believe Baz is still at it !

You may find Goodbye America by searching You Tube and also Lift off With Ayesha may attreact a few comments from "older" gentlemen on here

Cheers DW
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Post by: Donnywolf on July 31, 2013, 08:15:31 pm
That did not take long

Bitter Suite performing Goodbye America as a 5 piece Check out Baz Marshall and I was right about the Suits being trimmed with Stars and Stripes

Can someone who knows how to do t please embed the YouTube directly below please

I have added a more up to date photo of BS and checked out Ayesha too and she looks like I remember her (wow) and Ollie Beak does too. (Saddo)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPdE9pt7mN4


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Post by: roversdude on July 31, 2013, 09:21:17 pm
Cheers DW saw them quite a few times, they seemed to have been about for ever
Just shows what can happen with a few breaks
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Post by: RedRover45 on July 31, 2013, 11:22:39 pm
I remember the name but never saw them. Worryingly I remember Ollie Beak as well.

Anyone remember a band called Limelight who played all the Donny clubs round about the same time, played the Yarborough regularly. Brilliant three piece band containing two brothers.
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Donnywolf on August 01, 2013, 09:11:25 am
I remember the name but never saw them. Worryingly I remember Ollie Beak as well.

Anyone remember a band called Limelight who played all the Donny clubs round about the same time, played the Yarborough regularly. Brilliant three piece band containing two brothers.

Yes ... they too were fantastic

Also New Jersey Turnpike were tremendous too and were a sort of Supergroup taking a member from each of 3 or 4 local Bands

Not sure if John Parr went to them before hitting the big time

(perhaps we need a new Old Bands thread now)
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Post by: roversdude on August 01, 2013, 07:33:58 pm
The gents were quite good too
Back to pubs, although not so much gone but vastly changed
Nielsen
Cleveland
As mentioned before Saracens
Spent loads of time in Castle as you were never questioned about your age
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Post by: BobG on August 01, 2013, 10:35:50 pm
I just saw the Rockingham has gone!!! What???? That place is an institution. Decent beer (well, it used to be anyway), old Billy Renshaw propping up the bar with his wife in tow. He used to be one of my junior school teachers at Beechfield.(A rieght hard bugger too) but in an earlier life he had played on the wing for the Rovers. Always got on the pool table ok. Good crowd in before and after Rovers matches. I made some good friends in there. And pulled one night too. If the Rock has gone, I'm not coming back.

BobG

PS WTF is/was Neilsen's? I never heard of it!
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Post by: roversdude on August 02, 2013, 05:57:19 am
Sorry Bob should have read Nelsons
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Post by: not on facebook on August 02, 2013, 09:27:22 am
Never went in the little plough in my Youth,but Its allways my first port Of call whenever i land back in pubcaster.

It will be a cold day in hell if that pub should ever have to shut up shop.

When rod had the place it was best pint in town,hope the new landlord has same standards

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Post by: Donnywolf on August 02, 2013, 10:13:56 am
I can reassure you that the Little Plough is indeed alive and well and has a Landlord (or Landlady) that clearly knows how to keep Beer !

I regularly visit there and typically they have 4 or 6 real ales and I had 2 lovely pints of Barnsley Bitter (Acorn Brewery) and would give them 10 out of 10 ! £2.20 each as well
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Post by: roversdude on August 02, 2013, 12:38:26 pm
We're stories of a secret knock to get in ever true
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Post by: Muttley on August 02, 2013, 12:55:03 pm
Never went in the little plough in my Youth,but Its allways my first port Of call whenever i land back in pubcaster.

It will be a cold day in hell if that pub should ever have to shut up shop.

When rod had the place it was best pint in town,hope the new landlord has same standards



Oslo - you probably know the landlord of the Plough - Nick Griffin (not that one!) used to work at the Nelson and is a pal of Haigy from Edlo
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Post by: Ian H on August 02, 2013, 05:22:33 pm
A terrible thread - reminding me of my misspent youth - Oslo,The Fitz was a Stones/Bass pub - The "Taps" is Sam Smiths - The Vine was Darleys - before it closed it became a home for the gay community, who moved to the Prince of Wales when the Vine closed it's doors and the now enjoy the hospitality of Crystals (which was the Magdalene) next to the Masons.

The Underground was a fun pub (both left and right - shit beer though) - We did have a time when we travelled to all bars in the Market Place - and included the aforementioned Beethams & Blue Bell - The Yorkist, The Nags and many others - even the Black Bull when Alick had it.

Bob - you may not be aware that The Queens on the corner of the market place next to The Masons is now a Polish Restaurant.

The Plough does still do good beer - I'm looking forward to trying the Marston pub on Wheatley Hall Road (this weekend)
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Post by: eastender on August 02, 2013, 05:28:57 pm
I just saw the Rockingham has gone!!! What???? That place is an institution. Decent beer (well, it used to be anyway), old Billy Renshaw propping up the bar with his wife in tow. He used to be one of my junior school teachers at Beechfield.(A rieght hard bugger too) but in an earlier life he had played on the wing for the Rovers. Always got on the pool table ok. Good crowd in before and after Rovers matches. I made some good friends in there. And pulled one night too. If the Rock has gone, I'm not coming back.

BobG

PS WTF is/was Neilsen's? I never heard of it!


The Rock is being turned into 23 Flats.   :(
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Post by: Sprotyrover on August 02, 2013, 08:04:29 pm
Frank Westwood had the little plough for donkeys years the door was locked at night and you had to give it a rat at tat to get in.it was a Bass house but Frank kept it lovely,Frank sold it to Rod.
Anyone remember the three legs ,Elephant hotel and beehive?
I can remember them as a kid in the 60's.
By the way Ollie had a Pal called Fred he was a dog.
I had a copy of their annual Ollie and Fred's fun book,it was entertaining  ! But ten again I was only Seven.
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Post by: Ian H on August 02, 2013, 08:24:38 pm
The Three Legs became The Yorkist - The Elephant Hotel was before I was old enough to drink - it used to be opposite Hodgson & Hepworth which was where Clas Ohlson is now.
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Post by: roversdude on August 03, 2013, 07:32:29 am
Can just remember Hodgson and Hepworths, recall the smell of coffee and seeing them grind it
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Post by: ad1982 on August 03, 2013, 08:45:04 am
Newton is closing soon. And there's rumours that the Ivanhoe is to be turned into flats. Doesn't bode well for drinking in Sprotbrough!
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Post by: knockers on August 03, 2013, 09:36:46 am
Golden Fleece at the bottom of Beckett road has been flattened in the last couple of months.
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Post by: Sprotyrover on August 03, 2013, 09:40:53 am
I would have thought the Ivanhoe would be thriving. Sam smiths house always busy. Unless Humphrey Smith has other ideas. Then again SAMs own 50 pubs in the square mile of London so I don't think they need to sell the Ivanhoe to raise cash.

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Post by: knockers on August 03, 2013, 09:43:32 am
Never went in the little plough in my Youth,but Its allways my first port Of call whenever i land back in pubcaster.

It will be a cold day in hell if that pub should ever have to shut up shop.

When rod had the place it was best pint in town,hope the new landlord has same standards



It also had the best football team in town with Muttley being the original Rob Jones.   
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Post by: jonnydog on August 03, 2013, 09:49:17 am
Not necessarily a pub per say, and dunno if it's been mentioned on here yet, but the drinking hole that I really do miss and will miss again at 1:30pm today is The Toad opposite the Keepmoat.
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Post by: not on facebook on August 03, 2013, 02:57:12 pm
Never went in the little plough in my Youth,but Its allways my first port Of call whenever i land back in pubcaster.

It will be a cold day in hell if that pub should ever have to shut up shop.

When rod had the place it was best pint in town,hope the new landlord has same standards



Oslo - you probably know the landlord of the Plough - Nick Griffin (not that one!) used to work at the Nelson and is a pal of Haigy from Edlo

Well it will still be a good pint if NG is running the ship.

It really is a top pint in there
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Post by: Donnywolf on August 04, 2013, 12:32:02 am
Not necessarily a pub per say, and dunno if it's been mentioned on here yet, but the drinking hole that I really do miss and will miss again at 1:30pm today is The Toad opposite the Keepmoat.

Too true Too true

OR

To use the CORRECT version usually misspelt on here  HEAR HEAR !
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: BobG on August 06, 2013, 10:57:19 pm
I bought my first ever quarter of interesting stuff to smoke in Beethams! Eight quid it cost me. Lol. I'm getting old.... (And yes. I did mean a quarter).

BobG
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Post by: Dagenham Rover on August 06, 2013, 11:47:57 pm
I bought my first ever quarter of interesting stuff to smoke in Beethams! Eight quid it cost me. Lol. I'm getting old.... (And yes. I did mean a quarter).

BobG

What  remember you didn't need to buy it  just take a couple of deep breaths    :laugh:
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Post by: BobG on August 08, 2013, 12:16:22 am
Lol! There is that Daggers.... Never one of my favourite pubs though tbh.

Bob
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Post by: Welling Rover on August 08, 2013, 02:04:29 pm
A few more for the more geriatric of us !
Beehive - Handy for a few after midweek games as near to the bus for Skellow - lost to the frenchgate
Dockin Hill Tavern - Good beer
Bridge Hotel on north bridge - right doss house
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Post by: RedRover45 on August 09, 2013, 12:45:01 am
I remember the Toby Jug on the North Bridge, and it's renowned strippers...
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Post by: not on facebook on August 10, 2013, 08:30:59 am
any recall when white bear used to be the donnywhite pub

fcuking gobshites
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Post by: Away Rover on August 10, 2013, 11:01:47 am
Anyone got any more thoughts on The Bridge Hotel or the nearby Green Dragon Hotel. What about The Greyhound and Crown & Anchor in Friendly Street/Higher Fishergate area. Im far too young to remember these but find this thread very interesting.
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Post by: Sprotyrover on August 10, 2013, 09:26:32 pm
I can remember going into the White bear back in the 70's and there were two old broilers giving all and sundry blow jobs! Needless to say Sproty didn't indulge!
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: RobTheRover on August 11, 2013, 02:12:43 am
Of course not Sproty. (cough, cough)
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Post by: not on facebook on August 11, 2013, 10:18:55 am
I recall in the late 1980s When whoever was running the cleveland arms put a stripper show on for all the ddr and donnywhites.

The pub was shut to general on This sunday and you had to knock on back door,if they knew Your face you was in.it Also cost 5pounds which got you a free sunday finner thrown in.

I got in some 30 mins after the show started and walked into front bar to see a ddr mate laid on the Floor in his birthday suit with a brass with whip in hand
Cracking the whip against his Meat and two veg.

A certian donnywhite was walking round the pool table
Without out a stitch on and a lobb on waiting his turn with the stripper.

Must have Been 40 pluss lads in there.

Then the stripper passed round a pint pot and once it was full Of money she would fcuk whoever.

At This point in time the sunday dinners were Been served.my mistake was Been one Of the last to start to eat Their roast,as This point in time the pint pot had Been full Of money and ----- ------was riding the Arsè off the stripper.

Lado had finished with the viniger stroke and When he pulled his condom off his snot went flying all over the pool table.i could not eat me roast not after seeing that.

Now the donnywhite who had not had a stitch Of clothes on all day had the stripper bent over the pool table and was Sawing her in half.

The owner then announced that two more brasses who had just finished a show in Rotherham were on Their way to cleveland arms.

I Siad  Ffs who the fcuk is going to shag a couple Of
Slappers who have Been Throu half a pub full Of Rotherham gobshites,and Thats not to mention that they will be seeping porridge.

Christ as soon as the two girls walked in two pint pots were full Of money.

You could not Get a pint in the front bar for all the mayhem,so i nip round to the back bar and Stood in what i thought was the que to Get served at the bar.

It turned out to be a que to have a round with one Of the ladys in the ladys bogs Funny enough.

After about 3hours Of all This,you could hear a knock on the back door.

Tap tap tap,i went to answer it and it was the parents
Of two brothers that were in the pub as mum and dad had dropped by to pick them to take them to Their nan nans for sunday dinner

You could not make it up
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Post by: roversdude on August 11, 2013, 11:27:12 am
Oslo classic
Remember encountering a similar scenario in the Taddy at Armthorpe, we'd hired a stripper for a lads stag do - turns out she was up for extras too - quite surreal watching on
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Post by: roversdude on August 11, 2013, 11:29:40 am
Forgot to mention George on Wheatley Hall Rd how remiss seems as I used to play Sunday league for them - would have thought it was a listed building but not thing gone
Talking of listed buildings mines rescue place was definitely listed but still flattened
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Post by: RobTheRover on August 11, 2013, 11:41:11 am
Forgot to mention George on Wheatley Hall Rd how remiss seems as I used to play Sunday league for them - would have thought it was a listed building but not thing gone
Talking of listed buildings mines rescue place was definitely listed but still flattened

Talking of flattened listed buildings, anyone remember the old council offices on Princegate (originally the old Infirmary before the DRI was built)?  The front facade of the building was listed and was supposed to be retained, but I believe no one told the demolitions company tasked with taking the rest of the building down.  Where it once stood is now that huge DWP/DSS place.
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Post by: Sprotyrover on August 11, 2013, 12:32:26 pm
Yes that building was ugly and totally inconspicuous so much so that Even I the mighty Sproty,self styled champion and expert of old Doncaster never bothered to research it's history. :blush:
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Post by: Filo on August 11, 2013, 12:38:09 pm
Harvester in Stainy closing in the next 4-5 weeks
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Sprotyrover on August 11, 2013, 12:41:53 pm
Of course not Sproty. (cough, cough)


Funniest story I can recount re strippers happened in the Foresters at Adwick le street. I was in there minding every body else's business, when in walks a stripper gram with a big burly Minder, anyway there was the Adwick rugby lads in supping after a match and she singled out one of them and went through her routine rubbing herself against him etc. anyway a hand appeared from the crowd and grabbed her bum next thing the minder jumped in and started getting heavy, unfortunately all he got was a good hiding and sent scudding out into the street on his arse .wherupon the rugby lads surrounded the stripper and all you could hear was her squealing from the middle of the crowd and her naughty underwear came flying over Sprotys way. After about ten minutes she escaped and went running into the street in her Birthday suit.
Of course I remained totally aloof of this drunken debauchery.
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Post by: MrFrost on August 11, 2013, 12:45:14 pm
Newton is still open....
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Post by: roversdude on August 11, 2013, 02:45:54 pm
Don't know where she got that from Mr Frost, unfortunately she has her mothers brain
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: eastender on August 11, 2013, 05:42:45 pm
I used to work in the Blue Bell on Baxtergate in my youth. Fine pub sadly gone in the 80's. think it lasted a couple more years as a poncy bar called The Garden Bar but in its heyday I loved The Blue Bell.

It was called Roscoe's in between Blue Bell and The garden.  :)
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Post by: not on facebook on August 11, 2013, 06:12:07 pm
Anyone ever venture into the side sadlle out branton
On a sunday nite?

Had some great sunday nites in there what Been from cantley as never had to stress about taxis as we all fell
Back to cantley
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Post by: RobTheRover on August 11, 2013, 10:44:07 pm
10 Main Street

I cant even remember where the hell it was.
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: not on facebook on August 12, 2013, 01:08:14 am
10 Main Street



I cant even remember where the hell it was.

That was the side sadlle fella,just the name change
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Post by: Donnywolf on August 12, 2013, 08:29:40 am
10 Main Street



I cant even remember where the hell it was.

That was the side sadlle fella,just the name change

..and don't forget The Hacienda out at Kirkhouse Gteen ? Or have you ?
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Post by: ctay on August 12, 2013, 09:32:10 am
10 Main Street was on the edge of Auckley, now houses.

What is happening with the Paddock in Cantley. It closed for a short time but has re-opened but still very few go in. The Beaches Brook has just had new signs and paint job.
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Post by: ch-ch rover on August 12, 2013, 09:32:41 am
Wasnt Side Saddle in Auckley?
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: not on facebook on August 12, 2013, 11:15:52 am
Wasnt Side Saddle in Auckley?
the side saddle became 10 main street
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: roversdude on August 12, 2013, 12:18:21 pm
Right on tight bend as you go towards Auckley
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: roversdude on August 12, 2013, 12:19:34 pm
We used to go regular to 10 Main St or to grab a granny haunts such as Night Owl etc
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Norfolk N Chance on August 12, 2013, 02:11:18 pm
drum bentley
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: belton rover on August 12, 2013, 05:24:04 pm
The Paddock in Cantley was boarded up when I drove past recently.

I also remember the first nightclub I ever got in. Mainline I think it was called - above or next to the Northern Bus Station.
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Post by: RedJ on August 12, 2013, 05:29:04 pm
Wasn't that thing that used to be a cinema in Thorne (or I'm told it used to be a cinema anyway) once a night club? the one near the Vermuyden centre.
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Filo on August 12, 2013, 05:33:42 pm
Wasn't that thing that used to be a cinema in Thorne (or I'm told it used to be a cinema anyway) once a night club? the one near the Vermuyden centre.

Merlins, near the Traffic lights
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Donnywolf on August 12, 2013, 05:35:47 pm
Kensington Cinema (The Flea Pit) became Merlins the nightclub then fell into disrepair. At one time it had a Silver Birch tree growing 40 feet off the ground in the gutter

Now a luxury home and it is said will feature on Grand Designs soon .... believe you can Google it (looks well)
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Ian H on August 13, 2013, 09:57:33 am
Quote from: RedJ I also remember the first nightclub I ever got in. Mainline I think it was called - above or next to the Northern Bus Station.
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The Mainline used to be The Outlook - between the Northern Bus Station & the railway station ....

Ye Olde Crown was another - it's now Wildsmith's Saddlery.
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: DN8ROVER on August 13, 2013, 06:49:37 pm
Kensington Cinema (The Flea Pit) became Merlins the nightclub then fell into disrepair. At one time it had a Silver Birch tree growing 40 feet off the ground in the gutter

Now a luxury home and it is said will feature on Grand Designs soon .... believe you can Google it (looks well)


http://www.gwynap.com/kensington/
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Donnywolf on August 13, 2013, 09:05:35 pm
Thanks for that I knew it was "in there" somewhere

Neighbours were out yesterday taking photos of the Hot Tub arriving on Site ... I kid you not

Mind you it WAS big and I did not realise they made them as big as that !
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: jonnydog on August 13, 2013, 11:51:59 pm
Work in Thorne and have passed it a few times and seen that McCloud fella stood outside
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Donnywolf on August 14, 2013, 06:31:25 am
Amazing ... I live in Thorne and pass daily (sometimes twice) and have never seen him at all - though no great loss I suspect
Title: Re: Lost pubs
Post by: Bald Rover on August 14, 2013, 02:40:31 pm
Just a few I remember that are no more....

Sypte club on North bridge.....dad used to take us there was like a working mans club loved it.....

Tollbar club....now being demolished as we speak....shame as there was a lot of money spent by that tv programme after the floods but alas vandalism and a fire caused its death!

Nags Head....my first legal pint....and many illegal pints :)

Queens.....now a Polish pub/restaurant ( I believe with a no English sign) was a bit rough but a good pint

Bar-n-y.........a gay bar and a quality night!!

Brownswords! one of many names it had......

the old Vault...............

The woolpack.......I have had the pleasure of walking through the whole building and what a waste!! 3 floors of derelict rooms above that place!

A shame but a lot of great pubs which our kids will never experience....just crap nightclub pubs blaring dance music with pisswater pints and extortionate bottles!!
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Post by: Muttley on August 14, 2013, 05:13:46 pm

Queens.....now a Polish pub/restaurant ( I believe with a no English sign) was a bit rough but a good pint Never seen that sign, seem to welcome anyone

Bar-n-y.........a gay bar and a quality night!! I'll take your word for that!

the old Vault............... Presume you mean the Old Volunteer? Did re-open as Reds, later Garage but now shut

The woolpack.......I have had the pleasure of walking through the whole building and what a waste!! 3 floors of derelict rooms above that place!recently re-opened by owners of Garage