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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Lipsy on July 31, 2013, 08:22:49 pm
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Interesting listening: http://ow.ly/nvEMc (http://ow.ly/nvEMc)
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Sweet Jesus if you have heard the audio of the press conference (not the meet the fans event) it could hardly have been any less convincing. Watson denying knowledge of Sequentia Capital and then JR immediately going into great detail about the discussions he had been having with them. Brammall not present and JR saying he has no idea about the new second party as Brammall had been dealing with them alone. Sounds a total and utter shambles. All over the place.
See what you think: http://www.audioboo.com/boos/1528445-drfc-investment-press-conference?utm_campaign=detailpage&utm_content=retweet&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
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That first question Watson hasn't got a clue, no idea whats happening
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Sounds as if they are all covering something up..
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Just listened. Doesnt make great listening.
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What does that mean when JR says the sequencia deal was lead by him? He has setup that consortium?
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Don't dare to criticise the club though.
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JR is the main negotiator and contact for the Paddys. Terry is the main contact for the new gang.
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It seems the case that there was a bit of confusion as to what could and could not be said...
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Something has obviously gone very wrong somewhere along the line. This will probably take months to resolve.
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GazLaz got it spot on. They don't seem terribly well coordinated though do they? Not massively convincing if I am being honest.
Baldwin a class act.
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Either they were playing dumb to try and not give too much away, or they all genuinely don't communicate with each other. I'm guessing the first one.
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The interviewer (Paul walker?) referred to a statement released by the Irish lads. Anyone know where to find this?
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Listening to that I sense a split with a sticking plaster being applied for public presentation.
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Seems as though the Irish deal is dead. We need to know more about the second proposed investment to judge but i think Dick Watson it is that says it is worth following up. Could still be in with a chance of getting some investment
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Thanks for the link .. very interesting listening . I understood a lot lot more than I had from trying to piece together all the bits and pieces that had been dripped out .. more importantly that
a) Gavin stated that the club had not been told what would have been the player budget ( rumours had been 20 million )
b) the second possible investment which is being handled ( whatever that means) by Terry Bramall may be more interesting for the club .
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If Terry bramall is leading the other bid, i dont understand why he cant just invest money from his position now? why does he have to come in with a bid to invest money if thats what he's going to do?
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If Terry bramall is leading the other bid, i dont understand why he cant just invest money from his position now? why does he have to come in with a bid to invest money if thats what he's going to do?
maybe it comes with pre-conditions such as him being named chairman; maybe he's sick of playing second fiddle to JR and is looking for more recognition if he fronts up a deal that's making more money available; a continuation of the current situation would see him just coughing up cash that further puffs up the JR publicity machine as John is - quite rightly - seen as the notional head of the club and prime-mover behind everything that's happened over the last decade and a half; maybe it's just ego - time to step out of the shadows...
pissing in the wind, like, but if that is the case, seems fair enough....
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The interviewer (Paul walker?) referred to a statement released by the Irish lads. Anyone know where to find this?
I can't seem to find it, JR and co said they hadn't seen it either so wonder where Paul Walker got it from.
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If thats the case id rather have the irish and jr kept as chairman
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The interviewer (Paul walker?) referred to a statement released by the Irish lads. Anyone know where to find this?
I can't seem to find it, JR and co said they hadn't seen it either so wonder where Paul Walker got it from.
It will be in the Free Press tomorrow
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The interviewer (Paul walker?) referred to a statement released by the Irish lads. Anyone know where to find this?
I can't seem to find it, JR and co said they hadn't seen it either so wonder where Paul Walker got it from.
the statement is in tomorrows free press, but i cant find it either online.
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Just to be pedantic, the interviewer is Andy Giddens, not Paul Walker.
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I think that terry bramell stayed away from This press
Conference to protect any questions Asked on who This
So called other interested party are.
Hence to say Nobody or certian People or person dont
Want the Cat getting out Of the bag.
What worrys me is if rovers have an awfull first two moNths Of the season and are rock Bottom Of table,which in turn might put off any Interest from one or both partys.
Because if it should look like rovers will be in league one next term
The question is would these so called interested partys have both Been interested in rovers if donny did Get not promotion last term?
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Thanks although my ? was there as I wasn't 100%
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I think that terry bramell stayed away from This press
Conference to protect any questions Asked on who This
So called other interested party are.
Hence to say Nobody or certian People or person dont
Want the Cat getting out Of the bag.
What worrys me is if rovers have an awfull first two moNths Of the season and are rock Bottom Of table,which in turn might put off any Interest from one or both partys.
Because if it should look like rovers will be in league one next term
The question is would these so called interested partys have both Been interested in rovers if donny did Get promotion last term?
They probably werent but the lure of prem football and a prem football club would gain my interest aswell..
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If Terry bramall is leading the other bid, i dont understand why he cant just invest money from his position now? why does he have to come in with a bid to invest money if thats what he's going to do?
From the little we can gain from the press conference, Brammall is leading discussions WITH the other interested party. He is not it seems part OF the second party. Either the. Three owners have divvied up contact with the bids between themselves (which is why Watson appeared so put of the loop) and Brammall has been given contact with the second party or these are potentially people that Brammall has some prior knowledge of and hence he is the Board liaison with them. Much more likely the first scenario.
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Listening to that I sense a split with a sticking plaster being applied for public presentation.
Spot on Scilly
This is a pathetic interview! my faith in the board has plummeted over these past few days and it seems that there is a difference of interests amongst them which doesn't bode well for any football club, especially given that we are once again new to the championship and have very little capital in which to invest in PD's playing squad which even after todays signings is threadbare with only 2.5 days to go before the seasons opening match.
I heard quotes such as;
''a very good position at the moment''
Please tell me why he can deem we are in a good position! maybe business wise but the matter of fact is, the bread and butter (the team) has to be up to scratch and prepared...it just isn't!
I cannot believe how much they contradict themselves! I hope some journo would grill them on this interview as the whole business about sequentcia capital (sorry if that's not correct spelling), firstly they know nothing of them and then questions later they acknowledge it!?! pathetic business craft right there.
''Status quo'' (963 times) - status quo cant be that good of a business model if we haven't got a first team and a bench full of professionals 2.5 days to go!
DW talks garbage, GB talks like a cover up politician and JR is the only one I have an ounce of trust in. Let JR do the talking and faith is restored!
DW - ''always carry out talks with due diligence''... 8 minutes before he didn't know who sequentcia were!!!!!!
A press conference for no reason it appears!
it just undermines the trust, professionalism and strength of business continuity that I believed the board stood for.
RTID
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They probably werent but the lure of prem football and a prem football club would gain my interest aswell..
The ambition is all very well, but who's left holding the can if it all goes Peter Ridsdale on you?
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Too right Glyn.
I for one am #prothestatusquo.
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Well said Roverssam, talk about smoke and mirrors! I was cringing listening to that audio, just wish Andy Giddens would have smelt the contradictory bull that was going on and proper grilled them. I fully respect the board for the money they have put in, all we ask is a bit of honesty and clarity.
I wouldnt be suprised if there is a split or rift between the 3 amigos, behind closed doors over all this.
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Well said Roverssam, talk about smoke and mirrors! I was cringing listening to that audio, just wish Andy Giddens would have smelt the contradictory bull that was going on and proper grilled them. I fully respect the board for the money they have put in, all we ask is a bit of honesty and clarity.
I wouldnt be suprised if there is a split or rift between the 3 amigos, behind closed doors over all this.
I think it's nailed on!
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The second group was mentioned a few times during that interview.
It's Status Quo, with more investment we will be ROCKING ALL OVER THE WORLD, O'Brien has gone back to Paddy land on his PAPER PLANE, we can have WHATEVER YOU WANT, we won't be going DOWN DOWN, especially DOWN THE DUSTPIPE. Rock on.
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Listening to that I sense a split with a sticking plaster being applied for public presentation.
Spot on Scilly
This is a pathetic interview! my faith in the board has plummeted over these past few days and it seems that there is a difference of interests amongst them which doesn't bode well for any football club, especially given that we are once again new to the championship and have very little capital in which to invest in PD's playing squad which even after todays signings is threadbare with only 2.5 days to go before the seasons opening match.
I heard quotes such as;
''a very good position at the moment''
Please tell me why he can deem we are in a good position! maybe business wise but the matter of fact is, the bread and butter (the team) has to be up to scratch and prepared...it just isn't!
I cannot believe how much they contradict themselves! I hope some journo would grill them on this interview as the whole business about sequentcia capital (sorry if that's not correct spelling), firstly they know nothing of them and then questions later they acknowledge it!?! pathetic business craft right there.
''Status quo'' (963 times) - status quo cant be that good of a business model if we haven't got a first team and a bench full of professionals 2.5 days to go!
DW talks garbage, GB talks like a cover up politician and JR is the only one I have an ounce of trust in. Let JR do the talking and faith is restored!
DW - ''always carry out talks with due diligence''... 8 minutes before he didn't know who sequentcia were!!!!!!
A press conference for no reason it appears!
it just undermines the trust, professionalism and strength of business continuity that I believed the board stood for.
RTID
I for one trust Gavin implicitly, its his job to safeguard the finances at the club and ensure we actually make money.
A press conference HAD to be given one way or another, there has pretty much been a media blackout since this all started, that is bad for finances and share prices, im pretty sure it was called at the request of the shareholders and not because they wanted it.
certainly there appears to be a split on the board between Brammall and Ryan, i wouldnt say thats a bad thing, just that if something does get the green light it will genuinely be because it was the right one.
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Not a great interview. They should have all been prepped and had a Q&A on talking points and answers to all potential questions.
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I'm sure I've just heard someone pouring 3 large wiskeys
What a shambles
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It still sounds to me like they're just not singing from the same hymn sheet.
It's JR that breaks rank on this, and is it any surprise? My guess would be that - like the heart-on-his-sleeve fan that we know him to be - he was excited by the potential of signing/loaning big names that such a cash injection would have allowed for (some on here have criticised the fact that JR went on record to say that we'd be more than happy with the signings - well, maybe he made those comments when he thought that this deal would go through. It makes sense, no?). It seems that it was the other members of the board that didn't want this this "death or glory approach", which would no doubt disappoint JR (and - listening to it - there is talk of maintaining the long-term future of the club, which seems to add credence to my thinking).
I would assume that there are some open sores at the moment, but is that any surprise? Not really. Is it serious? I doubt it. They're big boys, and they'll get over it.
That's my - no doubt wrong - interpretation of all of this... You may fire when ready.
Still, we move on - if nothing else, we have a squad for Saturday now and many on here (and elsewhere) doubted that was going to be possible.
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But its not much stronger than it was last season.
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Not a great interview. They should have all been prepped and had a Q&A on talking points and answers to all potential questions.
Sounds like they need the advice of a PR professional, Mark. Do you know of one?
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We haven't finished signing players/doing business. Yesterday, people were moaning that we couldn't field a team; now we have a 'keeper that (and I have just nipped to the pub and tested this) gets a "You're f**king kidding me? How much did he cost you? f**k OFF! With him and Rob Jones, you're safe in the Championship*" from fans of other clubs...
I suspect that it's not over yet, not by a long ways.
*I am not saying I agree with that sentiment. I am just quoting someone.
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I'm sure I've just heard someone pouring 3 large wiskeys
What a shambles
That was louder than GB who didn't seem to be mic'd up. DW and GB sound like prisoners of war being interrogated (don't tell 'em Pike). Poor JR had to cover for DW who doesn't seem used to public speaking, and GB, who obviously does.
Having said that, it was pretty damn funny.