Viking Supporters Co-operative
Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Boomstick on October 12, 2013, 04:56:29 pm
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Just an idea, could the vsc organise an official fans boycott for the game away to Leeds?
In support of the twenty's plenty campaign. 36 pounds is just damn right scandalous :headbang:.
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Are you going to join the VSC then?
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Agreed. Why don't you use the saving to join VSC - only £12 pa :thumbsup:
RTID
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Yeh how can you expect the VSC to support you if you don't support them ?
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Yeah it's expensive but it's the same for every team that goes there and they aren't the only team that has expensive tickets in this league, boycotting wouldn't be a very good way to support the team.
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Agreed. Why don't you use the saving to join VSC - only £12 pa :thumbsup:
RTID
I will, how can I do this?
So do you think it's something the vsc can do?
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I will, how can I do this?
http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?page=5
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Yeah it's expensive but it's the same for every team that goes there and they aren't the only team that has expensive tickets in this league, boycotting wouldn't be a very good way to support the team.
It's not just about supporting the team, it's about football slowly dying. There is a bigger picture to worry about I think.
Surely to show that amount of apathy in that no other club has done it, won't change anything. Why can't Rovers be the first? why can't Rovers make the first stand?
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I will, how can I do this?
http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?page=5
Thanks, so again is it something the vsc are willing/ able to do? if it is I certainly would be more interested and willing to join.
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We're not in any position to organise an 'official' fan's anything. I believe as an organisation we generally support the Twenty's Plenty aim and campaign.
For the VSC to decide anything it would have to be raised at a Board Meeting. As a member, you can suggest what it is you'd like the VSC to do and we can put it on the agenda.
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Yeah it's expensive but it's the same for every team that goes there and they aren't the only team that has expensive tickets in this league, boycotting wouldn't be a very good way to support the team.
It's not just about supporting the team, it's about football slowly dying. There is a bigger picture to worry about I think.
Surely to show that amount of apathy in that no other club has done it, won't change anything. Why can't Rovers be the first? why can't Rovers make the first stand?
I agree I think football ticket prices are too expensive but I think it would also be slightly pathetic organising a boycott if it was just rovers fans doing it.
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So if you think £20 is plenty then do you intend to boycott all away grounds that charge over £20. Leeds are not the dearest tickets for away fans. I know Ipswich charge some away fans £37.
Is it not £30 to get in at Reading next week for Rovers fans? I know they are charging Rovers fans more than some clubs, including Leeds who played there recently. Speaking with a mate that went, they were charged £26.
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Reading is £30 if you pay on the day I think but it's about £25/£27 if you buy them in advance I think.
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Still too much. I've cut back on away games even more this season. It's about value for money and football isn't giving that anymore.
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We're not in any position to organise an 'official' fan's anything. I believe as an organisation we generally support the Twenty's Plenty aim and campaign.
For the VSC to decide anything it would have to be raised at a Board Meeting. As a member, you can suggest what it is you'd like the VSC to do and we can put it on the agenda.
Ok cheers, shame.
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I liked Oslo's bag of 1p's idea.
£36 is a joke. I'd support an official boycott 100%.
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I agree about the cost of away tickets. Far too excessive in some cases considering when you also have to pay for family.
Copied the following from Wikipedia.........
One penny and two pence coins are legal tender only up to the sum of 20p; this means that it is permissible to refuse payment of sums greater than this amount in 1p and 2p coins in order to settle a debt
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Fcuk me what would you lot do who are not happy with the Leeds price
Do if rovers should ever move on up into the prem?
call in a boycott because at man utd v doncaster the away fans price would be £45 or more?thats not too mention test Of the prem teams
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Leeds fans put a lot of money into our club when they sold Keepmoat out, Leeds fans also don't like the prices and have kept away from Elland road. I would love to go but I am not paying that price but I am not going to protest about it.
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It's not just about supporting the team, it's about football slowly dying. There is a bigger picture to worry about I think.
Surely to show that amount of apathy in that no other club has done it, won't change anything. Why can't Rovers be the first? why can't Rovers make the first stand?
I agree in the main. I think there are many who have carried out their own personal boycott of matches already, and will continue to do so. It would be 'cheap' to suggest a boycott when I have no intention of going anyway BUT I would support a campaign if we if we did it in the right way. Other clubs may follow, they may not but I think it will capture support from far and wide.
I would support something where we gathered en masse at the Keepmoat on the day, and but come coffers back in to our own club, who in the main, are doing things the right way. I'm more than happy see good numbers of away fans come to Doncaster because we charge a fair price and treat people well.
The VSC is not a dictatorship so is in no position to enforce a boycott but, I'm sure could discuss the issue with the club to put things in place to support a day of action if there was enough backing for it.
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The VSC is not a dictatorship so is in no position to enforce a boycott but, I'm sure could discuss the issue with the club to put things in place to support a day of action if there was enough backing for it.
Not really the club's place to get involved in supporter protests etc and may in fact have repercussions either from other clubs or the FL.
The VSC is the perfect vehicle to support and organise a protest.
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Sorry that came out wrong, I was suggesting we talk the club about opening a bar and poss having live radio commentary rather than directly supporting a boycott.
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In my humble opinion, which is probably worth three quarters of not very much, the VSC should protest at the Leeds ticket prices - in comparison to what their fans will pay at the KM -but leave it up to individual fans to boycott the game if they so wish. As I shall be doing, but then again its easier for me to do when I live 250 miles away.
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Leeds fans put a lot of money into our club when they sold Keepmoat out, Leeds fans also don't like the prices and have kept away from Elland road. I would love to go but I am not paying that price but I am not going to protest about it.
we didn't charge them 36quid though!
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whilst it would appear that there is no serious appetite to organise an official boycott driven by the vsc, there will be significant numbers of rovers not attending due to price anyway.
conversely, there will be a healthy following at middlesborough - due to the attractive prices, even though its on a Friday night and on sky.
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Perhaps some sort of press release from the VSC?
During the Wednesday game Paul Walker couldn't understand why there weren't many travelling fans for a local derby.
It was only later on the phone in when a Rovers fan pointed out the price of tickets was putting people off that the penny dropped. He admitted he had no idea what the ticket price was.
So a statement to the press from the VSC explaining the situation might be worthwhile.
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Well if some of our members can put it to us in the members section it's something we can discuss at our next meeting.
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Little bit false economy suppose as travel costs are low compared to southern games and a victory at bellend rd are priceless
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The boycott wont change anything other than our team will have less support which will help leeds. I will be there along with at least 1000 other rovers fans
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And if we go en masse, that will justify charging ridiculous prices.
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The boycott wont change anything other than our team will have less support which will help leeds. I will be there along with at least 1000 other rovers fans
Why not organise a "twenty is plenty" protest at the game?
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The boycott wont change anything other than our team will have less support which will help leeds. I will be there along with at least 1000 other rovers fans
utter rubbish. you could have 1 fan there or a thousand. you cannot quantify if away support makes any difference to a teams performance.
based on this theory we would have lost at Wembley.
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If 1000 rovers fans turned up at ER en masse, demanded to see the Leeds Chairman and refused to come in unless it was £20 each.
THIS would make a protest.
Take £20k or nothing Mr Chairman.
Thing is - we have the ability to do this.
But we wont.
Why do Leeds think its OK to charge 13 quid more than say Barnsley? The view from the w stand is crap - as are the facilities.
Imagine if every away supporter had this attitude across the country.
"We are not coming in unless it is priced accordingly."
It would not take too long for Clubs to change.
Outside of the premiership - football would be nothing without its supporters.
I will continue to bang on about this - as others are until there is change.
If you accept the current status - it will just get worse.
Every part of industry in this country is being cut back. Families are having to make savings despite utilities and the cost of living going up.
twenty quid is enough for away supporters.
#twentysplenty
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once again Leeds don't care if away fans turn up or not, they would prefer to have no away fans,
unless the fa/ football league whoever force teams to adopt the twentysplenty then clubs like Leeds, Sheff Weds etc will charge what they want
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If I take my VSC hat off and put my FSF hat on then any kind of organised boycott or protest is absolutely fine by me.
We were preparing some generic material in the FSF office recently. We had the Twentys Plenty leaflets along with some banners and other material. I'll check with the office tomorrow and get some sent to mine.
I'll also check with the FSF guys at Leeds and see if they're up for any kind of joint demonstration, after all the petition has done really well on the Waccoe site too and has support.
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The boycott wont change anything other than our team will have less support which will help leeds. I will be there along with at least 1000 other rovers fans
utter rubbish. you could have 1 fan there or a thousand. you cannot quantify if away support makes any difference to a teams performance.
based on this theory we would have lost at Wembley.
When did i say "we'll lose if theres a boycott" players are always saying about the fans being the twelfth man and i will benifit leeds on the pitch if theres no rovers fans there. Which wont happen because there will be plenty there so stop whinging about the prices and stay at home if it makes you feel better :thumbsup:
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Are fans only wanting to boycott because its Leeds? It's the same for every team that goes there and most other teams will pay more than us at Wigan and other grounds who reduce prices for us because of the category games. Leeds aren't the only team in the league with expensive prices so would these fans boycott the other grounds such as Ipswich who are expensive or is it because the fans have no intentions of going them and because they want to go Leeds with it been on the doorstep are making a big deal out of it.
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I think the fact that the part of the ground we're put in is shite doesn't exactly help their case.
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Are fans only wanting to boycott because its Leeds? It's the same for every team that goes there and most other teams will pay more than us at Wigan and other grounds who reduce prices for us because of the category games. Leeds aren't the only team in the league with expensive prices so would these fans boycott the other grounds such as Ipswich who are expensive or is it because the fans have no intentions of going them and because they want to go Leeds with it been on the doorstep are making a big deal out of it.
It's because it's a high profile derby, and a game attracting a large degree of interest. It's a game Rovers would take 3000 fans to given the right price. As we have in the past.
So if we took no fans in protest to the extortionate prices it will have a bigger impact, more so than say Ipswich away where the interest isn't half as big.
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The boycott wont change anything other than our team will have less support which will help leeds. I will be there along with at least 1000 other rovers fans
utter rubbish. you could have 1 fan there or a thousand. you cannot quantify if away support makes any difference to a teams performance.
based on this theory we would have lost at Wembley.
When did i say "we'll lose if theres a boycott" players are always saying about the fans being the twelfth man and i will benifit leeds on the pitch if theres no rovers fans there. Which wont happen because there will be plenty there so stop whinging about the prices and stay at home if it makes you feel better :thumbsup:
It's attitudes like yours that is slowly strangling football to death. Grow a pair and say no !
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Are fans only wanting to boycott because its Leeds? It's the same for every team that goes there and most other teams will pay more than us at Wigan and other grounds who reduce prices for us because of the category games. Leeds aren't the only team in the league with expensive prices so would these fans boycott the other grounds such as Ipswich who are expensive or is it because the fans have no intentions of going them and because they want to go Leeds with it been on the doorstep are making a big deal out of it.
No, it's every ground where the club rips off travelling fans. Nothing to do with the fact it's Leeds, or Owls or Ipswich. I spent season after season never missing a game home or away. Not any more, I plain and simply can't afford it.
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If 1000 rovers fans turned up at ER en masse, demanded to see the Leeds Chairman and refused to come in unless it was £20 each.
THIS would make a protest.
Take £20k or nothing Mr Chairman.
Thing is - we have the ability to do this.
But we wont.
Why do Leeds think its OK to charge 13 quid more than say Barnsley? The view from the w stand is crap - as are the facilities.
Imagine if every away supporter had this attitude across the country.
"We are not coming in unless it is priced accordingly."
It would not take too long for Clubs to change.
Outside of the premiership - football would be nothing without its supporters.
I will continue to bang on about this - as others are until there is change.
If you accept the current status - it will just get worse.
Every part of industry in this country is being cut back. Families are having to make savings despite utilities and the cost of living going up.
twenty quid is enough for away supporters.
#twentysplenty
Thought Bates had nothing to do with Leeds anymore?
I doubt I'll be going, despite it being cheaper than most away games for me as no travel costs, I'd rather not pump money into that club. I haven't been to a Rovers game there since the first time we played them in recent years, which is due to price.
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If 1000 rovers fans turned up at ER en masse, demanded to see the Leeds Chairman and refused to come in unless it was £20 each.
THIS would make a protest.
Take £20k or nothing Mr Chairman.
Thing is - we have the ability to do this.
But we wont.
Why do Leeds think its OK to charge 13 quid more than say Barnsley? The view from the w stand is crap - as are the facilities.
Imagine if every away supporter had this attitude across the country.
"We are not coming in unless it is priced accordingly."
It would not take too long for Clubs to change.
Outside of the premiership - football would be nothing without its supporters.
I will continue to bang on about this - as others are until there is change.
If you accept the current status - it will just get worse.
Every part of industry in this country is being cut back. Families are having to make savings despite utilities and the cost of living going up.
twenty quid is enough for away supporters.
#twentysplenty
Thought Bates had nothing to do with Leeds anymore?
I doubt I'll be going, despite it being cheaper than most away games for me as no travel costs, I'd rather not pump money into that club. I haven't been to a Rovers game there since the first time we played them in recent years, which is due to price.
Cant spot where Bates was actually mentioned
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The boycott wont change anything other than our team will have less support which will help leeds. I will be there along with at least 1000 other rovers fans
utter rubbish. you could have 1 fan there or a thousand. you cannot quantify if away support makes any difference to a teams performance.
based on this theory we would have lost at Wembley.
When did i say "we'll lose if theres a boycott" players are always saying about the fans being the twelfth man and i will benifit leeds on the pitch if theres no rovers fans there. Which wont happen because there will be plenty there so stop whinging about the prices and stay at home if it makes you feel better :thumbsup:
It's attitudes like yours that is slowly strangling football to death. Grow a pair and say no !
And its miserable b******s like you that should go support a conference team if your not willing to pay championship prices.
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Are fans only wanting to boycott because its Leeds? It's the same for every team that goes there and most other teams will pay more than us at Wigan and other grounds who reduce prices for us because of the category games. Leeds aren't the only team in the league with expensive prices so would these fans boycott the other grounds such as Ipswich who are expensive or is it because the fans have no intentions of going them and because they want to go Leeds with it been on the doorstep are making a big deal out of it.
Yes it's because it's Leeds.
I have stopped going to most away games because it's getting too expensive but the likes of Leeds and Wednesday, I would normally have gone to.
Not at these prices though.
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If 1000 rovers fans turned up at ER en masse, demanded to see the Leeds Chairman and refused to come in unless it was £20 each.
THIS would make a protest.
Take £20k or nothing Mr Chairman.
Thing is - we have the ability to do this.
But we wont.
Why do Leeds think its OK to charge 13 quid more than say Barnsley? The view from the w stand is crap - as are the facilities.
Imagine if every away supporter had this attitude across the country.
"We are not coming in unless it is priced accordingly."
It would not take too long for Clubs to change.
Outside of the premiership - football would be nothing without its supporters.
I will continue to bang on about this - as others are until there is change.
If you accept the current status - it will just get worse.
Every part of industry in this country is being cut back. Families are having to make savings despite utilities and the cost of living going up.
twenty quid is enough for away supporters.
#twentysplenty
Thought Bates had nothing to do with Leeds anymore?
I doubt I'll be going, despite it being cheaper than most away games for me as no travel costs, I'd rather not pump money into that club. I haven't been to a Rovers game there since the first time we played them in recent years, which is due to price.
Cant spot where Bates was actually mentioned
Me neither - either the post was edited before I quoted it or I have selective eyesight...
The whole debate about staying away is an interesting one, obviously everyone wants to support their team, and should be able to do so as and when they please. To suggest that either view is wrong would be daft and if the players were THAT bothered about no fans being there, well, they should think about how much money they extract from the game because along with TV money, they are a huge part of the problem.
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The boycott wont change anything other than our team will have less support which will help leeds. I will be there along with at least 1000 other rovers fans
utter rubbish. you could have 1 fan there or a thousand. you cannot quantify if away support makes any difference to a teams performance.
based on this theory we would have lost at Wembley.
When did i say "we'll lose if theres a boycott" players are always saying about the fans being the twelfth man and i will benifit leeds on the pitch if theres no rovers fans there. Which wont happen because there will be plenty there so stop whinging about the prices and stay at home if it makes you feel better :thumbsup:
It's attitudes like yours that is slowly strangling football to death. Grow a pair and say no !
And its miserable b******s like you that should go support a conference team if your not willing to pay championship prices.
I don't know how old you are, but I've spent well over forty years watching my team home and away. I don't think I'm miserable, but if I am then maybe it's because the game I've loved all these years has finally priced me and thousands of others out of it and the situation will never change while idiots like you are blinded by it and maintain an I'm Alright Jack attitude. I've been to more matches and grounds that you've probably dreamt off, so don't tell me to support another team bud.
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The boycott wont change anything other than our team will have less support which will help leeds. I will be there along with at least 1000 other rovers fans
utter rubbish. you could have 1 fan there or a thousand. you cannot quantify if away support makes any difference to a teams performance.
based on this theory we would have lost at Wembley.
When did i say "we'll lose if theres a boycott" players are always saying about the fans being the twelfth man and i will benifit leeds on the pitch if theres no rovers fans there. Which wont happen because there will be plenty there so stop whinging about the prices and stay at home if it makes you feel better :thumbsup:
It's attitudes like yours that is slowly strangling football to death. Grow a pair and say no !
And its miserable b******s like you that should go support a conference team if your not willing to pay championship prices.
I don't know how old you are, but I've spent well over forty years watching my team home and away. I don't think I'm miserable, but if I am then maybe it's because the game I've loved all these years has finally priced me and thousands of others out of it and the situation will never change while idiots like you are blinded by it and maintain an I'm Alright Jack attitude. I've been to more matches and grounds that you've probably dreamt off, so don't tell me to support another team bud.
I couldnt care less whether you go or not. Il be there enjoying myself and supporting my team so keep moaning pal you reds! :woohoo:
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The boycott wont change anything other than our team will have less support which will help leeds. I will be there along with at least 1000 other rovers fans
utter rubbish. you could have 1 fan there or a thousand. you cannot quantify if away support makes any difference to a teams performance.
based on this theory we would have lost at Wembley.
When did i say "we'll lose if theres a boycott" players are always saying about the fans being the twelfth man and i will benifit leeds on the pitch if theres no rovers fans there. Which wont happen because there will be plenty there so stop whinging about the prices and stay at home if it makes you feel better :thumbsup:
It's attitudes like yours that is slowly strangling football to death. Grow a pair and say no !
And its miserable b******s like you that should go support a conference team if your not willing to pay championship prices.
Can you honestly define Championship Prices though?
Seriously, 3 Dortmund adults and a child could have watched Dortmund VS Real Madrid (in the Champions League Semi-Final) for the cost of 1 adult going to Leeds. How can you honestly say £36 is in line with 'Championship' prices?
I also can't believe you don't think a boycott would make a difference either...
Speaking entirely independent here, if the support is there I would prefer a national (or Championship) away boycott on a selected weekend this season, that would really ring the message home...
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The boycott wont change anything other than our team will have less support which will help leeds. I will be there along with at least 1000 other rovers fans
utter rubbish. you could have 1 fan there or a thousand. you cannot quantify if away support makes any difference to a teams performance.
based on this theory we would have lost at Wembley.
When did i say "we'll lose if theres a boycott" players are always saying about the fans being the twelfth man and i will benifit leeds on the pitch if theres no rovers fans there. Which wont happen because there will be plenty there so stop whinging about the prices and stay at home if it makes you feel better :thumbsup:
It's attitudes like yours that is slowly strangling football to death. Grow a pair and say no !
And its miserable b******s like you that should go support a conference team if your not willing to pay championship prices.
Can you honestly define Championship Prices though?
Seriously, 3 Dortmund adults and a child could have watched Dortmund VS Real Madrid (in the Champions League Semi-Final) for the cost of 1 adult going to Leeds. How can you honestly say £36 is in line with 'Championship' prices?
I also can't believe you don't think a boycott would make a difference either...
Speaking entirely independent here, if the support is there I would prefer a national (or Championship) away boycott on a selected weekend this season, that would really ring the message home...
I dont try and define championship prices nor do i agree with paying £36 for a football match.
If boycotting the leeds game was going to force the football league into making the 20s plenty mandatory for all clubs i would happily comply but when its not going to make any difference why should i not go support my team. Theres going to be at least 1000 rovers fans there whether you like or not making your "boycott" pointless.
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Kieron, I've pointed out on here many times that the campaign is working, see here;
http://www.fsf.org.uk/latest-news/view/twentys-plenty-makes-its-mark-as-premier-league-launches-away-fans-fund
We have a meeting planned with the FL that will discuss the problems that away fans face, it doesn't need shovelling under the carpet, it needs more participants. Action is required, not your head in the sand attitude.
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Kieron, I've pointed out on here many times that the campaign is working, see here;
http://www.fsf.org.uk/latest-news/view/twentys-plenty-makes-its-mark-as-premier-league-launches-away-fans-fund
We have a meeting planned with the FL that will discuss the problems that away fans face, it doesn't need shovelling under the carpet, it needs more participants. Action is required, not your head in the sand attitude.
I think the campaigns great. However youve never told me how a small number of rovers fans (because some will go regardless) going to leeds is going to change anything, it wont.
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It’s a situation similar to pay offers in the work place. Some workers vote to reject an offer, accepting the potential risk of hardship it may cause through potential industrial action. Others refuse to take that risk by voting to accept the offer. I wonder how many of the latter voters would accept the offer so eagerly if what they voted to accept was all they got. How would they then feel if those who rejected the offer to pursue a higher pay rise ended up being awarded a better deal?
Would they then be so prepared to sit themselves ‘on the fence’ ready to jump either way depending on the outcome?
I bet football fans that are willing to be ripped off without putting up a fight would welcome a reduction in ticket prices achieved by their fellow supporters who fought for it.
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The boycott wont change anything other than our team will have less support which will help leeds. I will be there along with at least 1000 other rovers fans
utter rubbish. you could have 1 fan there or a thousand. you cannot quantify if away support makes any difference to a teams performance.
based on this theory we would have lost at Wembley.
When did i say "we'll lose if theres a boycott" players are always saying about the fans being the twelfth man and i will benifit leeds on the pitch if theres no rovers fans there. Which wont happen because there will be plenty there so stop whinging about the prices and stay at home if it makes you feel better :thumbsup:
what makes me feel better buddy is knowing that going to watch my team is cost effective and cost proportionate and cost reasonable. By inference, you implied Leeds had an advantage by having less away fans supporting rovers which is absolutely unfounded and ridiculous.
As long as there is a culture that is accepting of "go at any price" then this shall be the case.
The recent game at Hillsborough being a perfect example. 8000 (yes eight thousand) less supporters than the equivalent fixture a couple years previous being the most glaring evidential example.
Those willing to pay "the going rate" are becoming less and less and will soon be - if not already, be in the minority. I love my football. I have a family and have to draw a line somewhere in what I can afford.
A couple of seasons ago I did not consider what games I could and could not afford. Now I have to pick and choose.
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I shall stop banging on about the leeds fixture. the reason the leeds game stood out for me is two fold.
1. its a local game with little travel cost and would ordinarily be attractive for rovers to go to. 4000 rovers went that day stocky scored that free kick. (yes I was there) tickets were 20 quid.
2. leeds fans themselves have recognised that prices are preventing fans from turning up at elland rd and in some way this shows football supporter solidarity.
there are, of course, some that think -its leeds away so we should go, whatever the price.
so we should have 4000 there again.
not a chance
we will struggle to get 1000.
im afraid for a Yorkshire derby like this. its all or nothing . it wont be ALL, not even close. so it should be nothing.,
respect to the cov fans for standing by their morals. different circumstances I know. they have refused to travel to sixfields. we should refuse to pay £36
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The boycott wont change anything other than our team will have less support which will help leeds. I will be there along with at least 1000 other rovers fans
utter rubbish. you could have 1 fan there or a thousand. you cannot quantify if away support makes any difference to a teams performance.
based on this theory we would have lost at Wembley.
When did i say "we'll lose if theres a boycott" players are always saying about the fans being the twelfth man and i will benifit leeds on the pitch if theres no rovers fans there. Which wont happen because there will be plenty there so stop whinging about the prices and stay at home if it makes you feel better :thumbsup:
It's attitudes like yours that is slowly strangling football to death. Grow a pair and say no !
And its miserable b******s like you that should go support a conference team if your not willing to pay championship prices.
Can you honestly define Championship Prices though?
Seriously, 3 Dortmund adults and a child could have watched Dortmund VS Real Madrid (in the Champions League Semi-Final) for the cost of 1 adult going to Leeds. How can you honestly say £36 is in line with 'Championship' prices?
I also can't believe you don't think a boycott would make a difference either...
Speaking entirely independent here, if the support is there I would prefer a national (or Championship) away boycott on a selected weekend this season, that would really ring the message home...
I dont try and define championship prices nor do i agree with paying £36 for a football match.
If boycotting the leeds game was going to force the football league into making the 20s plenty mandatory for all clubs i would happily comply but when its not going to make any difference why should i not go support my team. Theres going to be at least 1000 rovers fans there whether you like or not making your "boycott" pointless.
KIERON.
THERE WONT BE 1000 ROVERS AT ER.
ENJOY THE GAME.
YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE MORE DISPOSABLE MONEY AND PASSION THAN MYSELF.
RTID
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Kieron, I didn't attempt to convince you how this one game will make a difference. However, the FL keep records of every game, attendance of home and away fans is meticulously recorded, so we can at least point to genuine examples of how away attendance is affected by price. If we do this, and advertise it widely, other clubs will do the same. That is always the start of any campaign, suggesting it won't make any difference is a little naive.
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Mmmm.... Here's a thought. Leeds and Donny fans jointly protesting? Serious think about it. ...Vsc forum plus other DRFC forums the Leeds forums making this known too. .. I'm sure all together a good peaceful protest outside the ground could be achieved. .. and
that would have a big affect... in this day and age it may just be possible.
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Guys, I think we are getting to the nub of the issue here.
The VSC, like all Supporter's Trusts, have a clear interest in the well being of the club and the supporters. We are supporting the Twentys Plenty campaign so our views on away ticket pricing is clear, and we would certainly support the views of any supporter who considers what Leeds are charging as excessive and decides not to attend on those grounds. However, to actively try to stop fans supporting the team at Leeds is not something I would be comfortable with, especially as there must be a more than fair chance of a victory.
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Which is why clubs will continue to charge exorbitant prices.
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"especially as there must be a more than fair chance of a victory." ... spoils it Rob in my opinion . I agree it is not VSC rôle to organise boycott but whatever our chances of victory may be .. the biggest victory would be a win for 'twenties enough' .
Congrats ( and thanks )on your appointment .
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The VSC, like all Supporter's Trusts, have a clear interest in the well being of the club and the supporters. We are supporting the Twentys Plenty campaign so our views on away ticket pricing is clear, and we would certainly support the views of any supporter who considers what Leeds are charging as excessive and decides not to attend on those grounds. However, to actively try to stop fans supporting the team at Leeds is not something I would be comfortable with, especially as there must be a more than fair chance of a victory.
I had to read this twice to believe it had been written. so you are saying that because we might win - then that makes £36 more acceptable.
I give up. I really do. :headbang:
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4 of us not going. Too expensive. Sat in that shitty corner. Nothing beats that day we packed that portion of the away end behind the goal and played them off the pitch. 1-0, Stock.
......and to show support for excellent ticketing prices, we are now going to Boro, even though it's going to be difficult to arrange with work and other family ties for us all.
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Guys, I think we are getting to the nub of the issue here.
The VSC, like all Supporter's Trusts, have a clear interest in the well being of the club and the supporters. We are supporting the Twentys Plenty campaign so our views on away ticket pricing is clear, and we would certainly support the views of any supporter who considers what Leeds are charging as excessive and decides not to attend on those grounds. However, to actively try to stop fans supporting the team at Leeds is not something I would be comfortable with, especially as there must be a more than fair chance of a victory.
We will deliver these aims by adopting the following key strategies and actions:
Provide a voice for the supporters of DRFC
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The VSC, like all Supporter's Trusts, have a clear interest in the well being of the club and the supporters. We are supporting the Twentys Plenty campaign so our views on away ticket pricing is clear, and we would certainly support the views of any supporter who considers what Leeds are charging as excessive and decides not to attend on those grounds. However, to actively try to stop fans supporting the team at Leeds is not something I would be comfortable with, especially as there must be a more than fair chance of a victory.
I had to read this twice to believe it had been written. so you are saying that because we might win - then that makes £36 more acceptable.
I give up. I really do. :headbang:
Why are you so frustrated?
Rob was expressing a personal view and wasn't speaking for all VSC directors or members. Having said that, as one of the architects of Twentys Plenty I should be furious with him!
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been chatting to a friend of mine who is a big leeds fan and regular at er. I asked his opinion about ticket prices there. here is the response:
"Couldn't agree more to be honest. Another Ken Bates idea to be to charge the away fans loads and free up the cheaper tickets for home fans. Hasn't worked really as away fans boycott cuz of prices and we don't sell out all the cheap seats. But then v Doncaster is regarded as a Yorkshire derby game so a grade A game, hence the top price tickets. Again being honest we get shafted when we go away every game as we are every other clubs cup final and guaranteed away stand sell out even at other clubs top prices. With respect to Donny, you are not the biggest attraction in the league so you prob only get shafted in the local derby games. All in all, tickets at all clubs are too expensive in the Championship for the quality on display!!"
Interestingly, Leeds play Brum at home this Sun - live on Sky. Leeds still charging Cat C prices £20+ for an adult and mid teens for a teenager. :thumbdown:
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I hate that "we're everyone's cup final" attitude. No, you're f**king not. There are 46 cup finals in the season, each worth 3 points, no more no less whether its vs Leeds or Yeovil or whoever. I hope you put him right?
And we don't up the ante any more for "Grade A" games, they'll pay £23 at the KM same as everyone else. Again, I hope you corrected this with your friend.
I'm not anti-Leeds, I don't even put them down as our rivals - that is Rotherham and Scunthorpe. I work with a Leeds fan, and whenever he gets on his high horse I say "25 May 2008". And the price of my ticket on that day? £40.
Only £4 more for a promotion play off final than for 1/23 away fixture.
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I Personally think our club charges too much for home ticket's,but thirty six quid is obscene they are charging as though they are still in the Premier league,the Leeds fans are having to watch players nowhere near that standard week after week,for me twenty quid should be maximum for any team in this league,for me how tight money is round Donny it should be fifteen quid for adults,but i understand our team probably couldn't do that unless we were guaranteed a full house every time,it's a hard one.
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Guys, you are all missing the point I was (badly) making.
What I was trying to point out is that I can understand why some fans would accept these exorbitant prices if they felt that Leeds were there for the taking. Despite their recent-ish indifferent form they are still a big scalp in this league, and for some that would be a draw enough to ignore the damage to the wallet. I certainly wont be there at £36 a pop, and I admire any other Rovers supporter who will be hovering around the radio/teletext/internet/skysports come next March instead of being sat in Elland Road.
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Imagine after all this they chose us to be a cat c game and it's £28. How many would go then?
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Oh and I will be attending regardless. Not many people can say they've been to 47 league games this season. (both Charlton games)
I'll just buy 12 pints less the week we play Leeds if moneys is tight.
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Are we boycotting Old Trafford if we draw United in the 3rd round of the cup when they announce it's £45 a ticket?
No
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Are we boycotting Old Trafford if we draw United in the 3rd round of the cup when they announce it's £45 a ticket?
No
There's a world of difference paying that as a one off experience watching the best team in the country in the best stadium in the country. At Leeds, it's a shit view from a team in the middle of the second tier. Anyway, I doubt very much Man Utd would charge £45. Stupid comparison.
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I wouldn't go Old Trafford if it was free!
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I wouldn't go Old Trafford if it was free!
Ah come off it, of course you would...
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He would. He just wants us all to go "Come on, Lee. We're all off to Old Trafford. Come with us.", so he can begrudgingly concede.
;)
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Okay I would go Old Trafford, unless Man U were playing, I just refuse to watch Sky FC and refuse to pay anything towards the Glazers...
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Surely by that logic you should just walk away from football altogether?
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I'd rather watch Man Utd at OT at whatever price, than MK Dons.
everyone has their own reasons and limitations for going/not going to certain football matches, and not always just about cost nor for what others may see as logical reasons. Even so, it's a personal choice.
I would like to go to Middlesbrough away, but Reading away may be more realistic, regardless of the price.
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Are we boycotting Old Trafford if we draw United in the 3rd round of the cup when they announce it's £45 a ticket?
No
There's a world of difference paying that as a one off experience watching the best team in the country in the best stadium in the country. At Leeds, it's a shit view from a team in the middle of the second tier. Anyway, I doubt very much Man Utd would charge £45. Stupid comparison.
1. Yes they do, prices are never reduced. I go to Old Trafford as well, when Rovers aren't playing.
2. I thought we were all crying because the cost of football is too expensive. I didn't think the opposition mattered. I go to support DRFC. Personally the view from the west stand at Leeds is better than the top tier of the east stand at Old Trafford as well.
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Ipswich adult prices are:
Grade C match: £26
Grade B: £32.50
Grade A: £37
+ £2.50 to buy them on a match day.
I think we're grade C. So, although they may charge more than Leeds overall, it makes sense for us to target what effects us more. Leeds it is then.
Being effective in making a protest over this game could include:
- backing from the FSF ie making it a featured protest
- the VSC organising an alternative to the match
- linking with Leeds fans so its a joint protest (press releases and banners in the ground in both ends)
Points to highlight are the 20 is plenty, plus the inequality in prices between home and away ends. I realise the current regulation is for "equivellant" seating to be priced the same, but this is open to abuse, and is anyway clearly wrong - cheapest home end seating = away end prices, simple.
There is plenty of time to organise this. Is there a will from Rovers fans, Leeds fans, and the FSF?
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I've already opened up discussion with the Leeds FSF guys, who also happen to be the main guys in the Leeds Trust. Our initial plan is to put a business proposition to the club, i.e. charge a sensible price and you'll receive more match income from an increased away following. That will have to include evidence that DRFC supporters are not willing to travel in numbers and will effectively be boycotting the game, much the same plan as we did for Barnsley a few years ago.
Failing that we will be participating in highlighting the unfair price structures, using the prepared banners, leaflet distribution and media opportunities to reinforce our point.
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Out of interest should Leeds end up choosing it as a cat c game and it's £28 who would go that isn't currently because it's £36?
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the only sensible price (in my opinion) is the ticket price Leeds will pay when they come to the KM. this includes the concession price structure.
29 quid was too much for many at Hillsborough. 28 will still be too much at Leeds.
And kids prices? Leeds still charge kids 15/16 quid for cat c games.
It wont happen but 20 quid for adults and a fiver for kids and Leeds would sell out (home and away) Elland Rd would be full. And there would be some who couldn't get tickets.
They could call it "Spirit of Yorkshire day"
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Me. :thumbsup:
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Are we boycotting Old Trafford if we draw United in the 3rd round of the cup when they announce it's £45 a ticket?
No
As 45% of the gate money would go to Rovers, the more they make the Man Utd fans cough up to fund DRFC the better... ;)
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I'd consider it at £28 but it still wouldn't make me change my mind completely. That's only because I live in West Yorkshire now so it'd be a half hour drive.
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I still think the variation of a few £ for one adult ticket isn't too much of an issue, especially if you factor in the costs of travelling etc. Where there is a bigger issue, is the OTT prices for kids.
And don't think price issues are just for our division, have a look at Barnet in the Conference, they charge adults £23 for a premium position seat in their new main stand, exactly the same as we pay for a similar seat at the KM, 3 divisions higher...
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I wouldn't go Old Trafford if it was free!
I wonder if/ when we do play at Old Trafford that you wont attend, I wonder
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Interestingly, Leeds play Brum at home this Sun - live on Sky. Leeds still charging Cat C prices £20+ for an adult and mid teens for a teenager. :thumbdown:
Only in the Leeds end. They are still charging Birmingham fans £28
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Interestingly, Leeds play Brum at home this Sun - live on Sky. Leeds still charging Cat C prices £20+ for an adult and mid teens for a teenager. :thumbdown:
Only in the Leeds end. They are still charging Birmingham fans £28
lets see how many brum turn up.