Viking Supporters Co-operative

Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: washyrover on November 10, 2013, 04:22:58 pm

Title: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: washyrover on November 10, 2013, 04:22:58 pm
Was it better when the fans just had the supporters club who wanted to help the club,or now when we also have the VSC who want to run the club?.
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: Filo on November 10, 2013, 04:25:20 pm
Was it better when the fans just had the supporters club who wanted to help the club,or now when we also have the VSC who want to run the club?.


How many times do you need the roles of the two explaining to you before it sinks in?
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: nice one rovers on November 10, 2013, 04:28:47 pm
Was it better when the fans just had the supporters club who wanted to help the club,or now when we also have the VSC who want to run the club?.


How many times do you need the roles of the two explaining to you before it sinks in?

Just one more for me please , as I was off last time you explained it.
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: washyrover on November 10, 2013, 04:29:36 pm
What you mean you think you run the club oh yes I got it.
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: River Don on November 10, 2013, 04:29:59 pm
"The VSC who want to run the club?

Provocatively put.

Personally I think it's a bit silly having two supporters groups, and I think it would be better if they were brought together to form one supporters organisation. Just my opinion.

I know some will want to explain all the differences between a supporters club and a supporters co-operative and why it's irreconcilable but I'm sure there isn't really anything that couldn't be overcome.
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: DonnyRTID on November 10, 2013, 04:41:46 pm
That will never happen.
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: River Don on November 10, 2013, 04:42:27 pm
That will never happen.

Why not?
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: Rios on November 10, 2013, 04:52:03 pm
Was it better when the fans just had the supporters club who wanted to help the club,or now when we also have the VSC who want to run the club?.

As far as I'm concerned the supporters club were conspicous by their absence during the Richardson regime.  If they'd been more pro-active there were would have been no need for SaveTheRovers or Rifa.  Things may have changed in the years since but if it all goes tits up I know where the energy, ideas and impetus will come from.  If it doesn't go wrong then I'm sure you'll all still keep whining about how shit the VSC is, but things got so bad so quickly because we weren't organised (something Brighton fans will testify too) and there were only a few individuals doing anything about it.
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: DearneValleyRover on November 10, 2013, 05:06:39 pm
The VSC does not seek to run the club but to protect it but to some we will always be the anti-christ
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: Wellred on November 10, 2013, 05:14:18 pm
Can you point me to the section in the aims and objectives of the VSC where it states protecting the club.
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: Rios on November 10, 2013, 05:20:43 pm
Not sure where to put this, but I was gobsmacked reading some of the drivel on this...

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2208820057/?fref=ts

I've never been very pro-VSC (sorry!) but I must live in a cave as I had no idea people were this bitter about it all.  Maybe JR's resignation has had the very effect it was intended to have...
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: PDX_Rover on November 10, 2013, 05:34:40 pm
Honestly, some of threads on here are so petty and spiteful it beggars belief. The VSC came about as a group of supporters with a set of guidelines and principles that would work for and with the club for the benefit of the club.
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: Snods Shinpad 2 on November 10, 2013, 05:37:49 pm
My message to all VSC directors is that they have done the right thing with regards to this whole sorry charade.
Keep up the good work all.
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: StocktonRover on November 10, 2013, 05:42:33 pm
 :that:
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: dknward2 on November 10, 2013, 05:51:49 pm
You have my full support
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: River Don on November 10, 2013, 06:00:25 pm
It's all too easy these days to snipe from the sidelines.

It takes a bigger person to give their time and put their energy into something for little reward. The VSC directors have my full support too.
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: idler on November 10, 2013, 07:04:32 pm
I've just read the Facebook page and I think that it'S pathetic in the main.
What's worse is that one poster shares my name, I would be a lot happier if he sported a picture rather than a badge.
At least then people might not associate any of his comments with me. :)
Keep up the good work. At least any mistakes that the VSC make are honest mistakes.
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: Savvy on November 10, 2013, 07:23:12 pm
Who is this Rob Ghosh fella?
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: MartinB on November 10, 2013, 07:27:09 pm
Unsure he sounds like a decent curry though.
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: Savvy on November 10, 2013, 07:30:33 pm
Badum Tish!!!! I'll cross em over and you knock em in fella!!!! lol!!
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: BigColSutherland on November 10, 2013, 08:01:53 pm
Who is this Rob Ghosh fella?
A man with a gripe.
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: roversdude on November 10, 2013, 08:43:20 pm
I'm sorry but VSC have been transparent throughout and have my full support
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: German Rover on November 10, 2013, 08:45:18 pm
I'm sorry but VSC have been transparent throughout and have my full support

Mine as well
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: BigColSutherland on November 10, 2013, 08:48:56 pm
I'm sorry but VSC have been transparent throughout and have my full support

It takes a big man to apologise. Well done.
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: roversdude on November 10, 2013, 08:51:29 pm
Apologise for ?
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: BigColSutherland on November 10, 2013, 09:00:48 pm
No idea. You're the one saying you're sorry.
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: Mr1Croft on November 10, 2013, 09:01:21 pm
Thanks all. Knowing we have your support reassures us we are doing the right thing.

But, in all honesty without our members and your support throughout the years this wouldn't be possible so pat yourselves on the back.
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: BigColSutherland on November 10, 2013, 09:08:38 pm
MrCroft -not everyone has given you their support. Do the detractors make you know that you're doing the wrong thing?
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: roversdude on November 10, 2013, 09:14:35 pm
Oh yes I see your angle now

I believe the VSC has stood up for the principles it was set up for, maybe a lot of the posters were nota round in the dark dark days
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: wilts rover on November 11, 2013, 01:22:21 am
The supporters club are there to organise support for the club, whoever is in charge.

The VSC are here to ask questions of whoever is running the club as to whether or not it is in the best interest of those supporters.

That's my take on it anyway. You might belong one, both or neither depending on your view or level of interest/activity. Not quite sure what the role of the facebook group is, perhaps someone can enlighten me?
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: River Don on November 11, 2013, 09:26:46 am
The supporters club are there to organise support for the club, whoever is in charge.

The VSC are here to ask questions of whoever is running the club as to whether or not it is in the best interest of those supporters.

That's my take on it anyway. You might belong one, both or neither depending on your view or level of interest/activity. Not quite sure what the role of the facebook group is, perhaps someone can enlighten me?

A single organisation could manage both those roles without any conflict of interest. I just think a single organisation would have a bigger membership a stronger voice and be able to offer more for supporters.
Title: Re: VSC or Supporters Club,
Post by: walter the red on November 11, 2013, 11:17:56 am
To the vsc i say well done so far-keep up the good work for and on behalf of all DRFC supporters .
I have been a one-club supporter for 55 years ,through all good & bad times and it breaks my heart now to see /hear all this board room "in fighting " which can only do harm to the club i love .
A club is not about directors or boardroom squabbles -a club is the "heart & soul " of the supporters and the community that it represents -please can we have our "heart & soul " back asap .