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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Copps is Magic on February 27, 2014, 10:01:20 pm
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For me top three is;
1. Turnbull
2. Wellens
3. Brown
Anyone care to disagree?
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Keegan?
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Brown.
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brown
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Turnbull has kept us in more games than Brown has won us games.
Keegan has been average since the first 10 matches.
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Turnbull
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Brown.
Shift after shift, game after game. There were times around Christmas he'd emerge slaked in mud out of the gloom looking like he'd literally been ploughing a lone furrow up front.
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Honestly dont understand what people see in brown, yes he works his arse off but that doesnt make him a good player, chuck me a shirt ill work my arse off for 90 mins a week to be a footballer for a livng aswell!
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Turnbull, yeah Brown has been good and worked his knackers off but if we didn't have Turnbull we would be just about dead and burried.
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Red Army.
Watch him carefully. It's not just about bravery and hard work. He has a sublime football brain. Watch him when he is fit, the way he judges when to hold the ball, when to lay it off, when to flick it to a supporting player. If you don't see that, you don't understand football.
There was a moment against Blackburn early this season that was reminiscent of van Nistelrooj at his best. He won a long ball from the back with the centre half trying to flatten him. Took the ball down close to the touch line. The centre half had him in his pocket, harrying him out of play. No support in sight. Nowhere to go. Then Brown did a Cruyff turn on a sixpence and was away behind the back line. A joy to see. Best moment of football in the entire season. And his vision and execution for the move that led to Sharp winning a penalty against Charlton was the second best.
We are privileged to have a player like him playing for us. A worker with a football brain. They come along rarely.
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He has unbelievably fast feet, does Brown. That's not to say he's pacey, mind. He's never been particularly quick across the ground even in Division 3.
Keegan certainly this season's unsung hero so far. I'm glad he's made the step up and showed what O'Driscoll saw in him - Zola was raving about him too apparently.
Player of the season so far though for me has to be Turnbull. I honestly think he'll be the difference in the end.
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Turnbull :thumbsup:
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Meite since he's come in defence looks solid (ish)
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Turnbull. Brown has a good touch for a big man.
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Keegan for me. Without him we get overrun in midfield.
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For sheer week-in week-out consistency and effort and putting up with the shirkers around him I'd say Brown.
For ensuring that we don't have a goal difference of -60 and that we've been able to get away with fielding a youth team defence at times I'd say Turnbull.
For allowing me to live in hope I'd say Richie.
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Red Army.
Watch him carefully. It's not just about bravery and hard work. He has a sublime football brain. Watch him when he is fit, the way he judges when to hold the ball, when to lay it off, when to flick it to a supporting player. If you don't see that, you don't understand football.
There was a moment against Blackburn early this season that was reminiscent of van Nistelrooj at his best. He won a long ball from the back with the centre half trying to flatten him. Took the ball down close to the touch line. The centre half had him in his pocket, harrying him out of play. No support in sight. Nowhere to go. Then Brown did a Cruyff turn on a sixpence and was away behind the back line. A joy to see. Best moment of football in the entire season. And his vision and execution for the move that led to Sharp winning a penalty against Charlton was the second best.
We are privileged to have a player like him playing for us. A worker with a football brain. They come along rarely.
Not only that, his ability to win territory and calm a game down is top class.
You'll have noticed it, when he has his back to a defender waiting for the ball and throws himself down winning a free kick at least 3-4 times per game. Takes pressure off and wins us precious yards every time. Clever guy, even if it is a bit naughty of him.
It's Brown for me too and that's why you see him being the victim of foul after foul. Basically most defensive players haven't got a clue what to do with him. He's always there with his tricks, his power for 90 minutes of hell. Shame that our other class players are unable to match his work rate and generally keep up with him and his very sharp footballinh brain.
He's far more than a 'workhorse'.
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Turnbull
Keegan
Wellens
All 3 have stood out head and shoulders above the rest this season. Shame they are surrounded by mediocrity.
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Shame they are surrounded by mediocrity.
What, like Sharp, Brown, Meite?
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Not that I disagree with the highlighting of Turnbull, Brown, Wellens and Keegan, but I can't believe no-one has picked out Bongani Khumalo. One of the best centre-halves I've seen play for Rovers; wins a hell of a lot in the air and his reading of the game is superb.
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1 BROWN
2 WELLENS
3 KEEGAN
BROWN WORKRATE OUTSTANDING
WELLENS IS JUST WELLENS
KEEGAN JUST BEEN SO GOOD AT WHAT HE DOES FOR THE TEAM :rtid:
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Shame they are surrounded by mediocrity.
What, like Sharp, Brown, Meite?
Yes
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Wellens by a country mile.
The only bit of true class we've had for me
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Shame they are surrounded by mediocrity.
What, like Sharp, Brown, Meite?
Yes
Really, these are mediocre?
Wellens is our most talented player, Brown the most hardworking. Keegan highly effective in what he does, Khumalo solid. With Turnbull behind them that is a pretty decent spine to the team.
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1. Turnbull
2.Wellens
3.Keegan
Not Brown,although a great engine on him and he leads the line well-he just does not score enough goals.
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Brown is a top player who offers so much, cannot believe anyone believes different.
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Brown.
His biggest fault is the reason he's still a Doncaster Rovers player, if he scored on a regular basis he'd be leading England's front line in Brazil later this year...
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Shame they are surrounded by mediocrity.
What, like Sharp, Brown, Meite?
Yes
Really, these are mediocre?
Wellens is our most talented player, Brown the most hardworking. Keegan highly effective in what he does, Khumalo solid. With Turnbull behind them that is a pretty decent spine to the team.
Mediocre for the championship, yes.
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Turnbull, copps, wellens for me.
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Wellens, Brown, Copps.
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Difficult one but thought Duffy May have had a few shouts
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Wellens, Brown, Turnbull, Keegan, Copps, not a bad group of players is it? It's just been a matter of getting them all fit and all on the pitch at the same time. Chuck in the likes of Husband, Forrester and Sharp all properly fit again and we look a half decent outfit.
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Khumalo wellens turnbull
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Red Army.
Watch him carefully. It's not just about bravery and hard work. He has a sublime football brain. Watch him when he is fit, the way he judges when to hold the ball, when to lay it off, when to flick it to a supporting player. If you don't see that, you don't understand football.
There was a moment against Blackburn early this season that was reminiscent of van Nistelrooj at his best. He won a long ball from the back with the centre half trying to flatten him. Took the ball down close to the touch line. The centre half had him in his pocket, harrying him out of play. No support in sight. Nowhere to go. Then Brown did a Cruyff turn on a sixpence and was away behind the back line. A joy to see. Best moment of football in the entire season. And his vision and execution for the move that led to Sharp winning a penalty against Charlton was the second best.
We are privileged to have a player like him playing for us. A worker with a football brain. They come along rarely.
Every fan likes to see commitment in British footballers, it's part of our appreciation of the work ethic. Brown embraces that very well and I think he has stood out pretty much for that reason. I think the use of the term "sublime footballing brain" is pushing it somewhat. Now if you attributed that to Wellens I'd certainly concur. I'm not sure which match he did it in now but the flick that he returned to Coppinger which is on U tube drops Wellens in that catergory. A tad more pace and he would have had England international written all over him.
Whilst this may sound harsh, Brown is a journeyman of this division. He's had a couple of tilts at the top flight, most notably with Sunderland I think and been found wanting. As a few others have pointed out on this thread, he doesn't score enough and there have been a few clear misses. Strikers are gauged by how often they hit the onion bag. Even Big Bren weighed in with more goals consistently than Brown. That said he'd get my vote but reserve the subliminality for the ball players, Wellens, Coppinger and probably more latterly Tamas.
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I would say Ross Turnbull just in case he has just won a Meal for 2 Voucher in Lottery AND he has nobody in mind for the other side of the table !
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Brown's career record is 3 goals every 10 starts that equates to 15 goals in a full season of league games plus the odd cup match. That is a perfectly respectable total for any striker. He's scored 20 goals in 66 starts for us since returning, which is a perfectly respectable total.
So he missed chances? Show me the striker who doesn't. It comes with the territory. For me, a striker who scores at that rate AND leads the line physically AND is the best player in the squad at bringing other players into the game is something to cherish.
Someone suggested that Coppinger is more deserving of being described as being a sublime footballer. Perhaps he is more sublime in his basic skill, but that is not what I was talking about. Brown's ability to choose the correct ball AND execute it while having a centre half up his arse is second to none among any Rovers player I have ever seen.
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I have to say, when we re signed Brown, I wasn't impressed, I described him as a journeyman, I was wrong, perhaps his injuries over the years influenced that opinion, since he's got over those injury problems we've seen a grafting player with quick feet and an eye for a pass, long may it continue