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Title: The Reds are staying up!
Post by: SoundbiteBarmyArmy on March 13, 2014, 08:47:53 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/championship/fixtures

I've said it before many times & I'll say it again, just look at the fuxtures, they're in our favour big time!

This Saturday, Blackpool are away at leicester - you could only see that going one way surely!? It's Millwall vs Charlton - South East London derby with everything to play for -  a draw is likely and would suit us down to the ground. Yeovil are away at QPR - again, you could only see one outcome there on paper, although, QPR have hit a dip in form, but a draw would suffice. Sheff Wed vs Birmingham - That's a big game as I didn't realise Wendies were only three points in front of us and as of before kick off last night Birmingham were on the same points with a greater GD, Macheda did the business though!  :mad: Also, we've got both teams to play at home shortly and our home form is excellent. Finally, Dingles are away at Watford. Watford will be hurting from Tuesday night after losing in the last minute to 'TLOD', so, Dingles are going to feel their wrath I think!

I could go on & on & on, but if you study the fixture list like I have been doing (sad t**t!) then things are looking good.

COYR!!!

 :scarf:
Title: Re: The Reds are staying up!
Post by: MiKA on March 13, 2014, 11:03:46 am
I love your optimism matey        :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Reds are staying up!
Post by: DRNaith on March 13, 2014, 11:20:19 am
I think our biggest quality which will prove to save us this season is our ability to shake-off a poor result and come back with a win or unexpected draw.

Beating Huddersfield, and the way we did it, after losing to Bournemouth in such a way is one example of this.

In the past, under SO'D for example, we would find ourselves on long runs of poor results whereas supporters we would just not see where our next win was going to come from, it seems every game is winnable, so in our run in, at the end of the season, a tonking won't necessarily mean we're going to lose the next game. In my opinion that is a very good quality to possess
Title: Re: The Reds are staying up!
Post by: The Red Baron on March 13, 2014, 11:32:13 am


In the past, under SO'D for example, we would find ourselves on long runs of poor results whereas supporters we would just not see where our next win was going to come from, it seems every game is winnable, so in our run in, at the end of the season, a tonking won't necessarily mean we're going to lose the next game. In my opinion that is a very good quality to possess


I think you've forgotten the run from 3/12/13 to 11/01/14- P8. W. 0 D. 2. L 6. During which time we scored a mere 3 goals. We had two bad runs under SOD in the Championship. The one in 2008-09 when we were playing well but couldn't buy a win, then the one from Jan 2011 onwards which resulted in his sacking. At other times we were pretty much as we are now- win one, lose one.

Rovers' win over Huddersfield followed "the Baron's Law" - i.e. a team that suffers a real leathering usually wins the next match. Barnsley did exactly the same thing. The real achievement was to win on Tuesday as well- that sort of thing helps to build confidence among the players that they can string together a run of results.
Title: Re: The Reds are staying up!
Post by: Dare to dream! on March 13, 2014, 12:47:41 pm
Oh god, you've jinxed it
Title: Re: The Reds are staying up!
Post by: DRNaith on March 13, 2014, 01:08:18 pm
Oh god, you've jinxed it

On that basis we should be ten points clear of Leicester, given all the people saying we're going to be relegated!
Title: Re: The Reds are staying up!
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on March 13, 2014, 05:03:39 pm


In the past, under SO'D for example, we would find ourselves on long runs of poor results whereas supporters we would just not see where our next win was going to come from, it seems every game is winnable, so in our run in, at the end of the season, a tonking won't necessarily mean we're going to lose the next game. In my opinion that is a very good quality to possess


I think you've forgotten the run from 3/12/13 to 11/01/14- P8. W. 0 D. 2. L 6. During which time we scored a mere 3 goals. We had two bad runs under SOD in the Championship. The one in 2008-09 when we were playing well but couldn't buy a win, then the one from Jan 2011 onwards which resulted in his sacking. At other times we were pretty much as we are now- win one, lose one.


We rarely had "win one, lose one" with O'Driscoll. We usually had long runs of relegation form, suddenly switching to astonishingly good runs of promotion form and back again.

2008/09
13 Sept  - 20 Dec P20 W2 D5 L13 Points per season at that form 25 (Near record bottom of league)
26 Dec - 10 Mar P13 W10 D1 L2 PPS 110 (Champions by a street)
14 Mar - 3 May P9 W3 D0 L6 PS 46 (Relegation)

2009/10
08 Aug - 07Nov P16 W2 D9 L5 PPS 43 (Relegation)
21 Nov - 16 Jan P8 W6 D0 L2 PPS 104 (Champions)
26 Jan - 27 Feb P9 W2 D2 L5 PPS 41 (Relegation)
06 Mar - 27 Mar P7 W4 D2 L1 PPS 85 (Promotion)
03 Apr - 02 May P6 W1 D2 L3 PPS 38 (Bottom of League)

The one and only time we had a long run of interspersed wins and defeats in the division under O'Driscoll was the first half of 2010/11

07 Aug - 03 Jan P23 W9 D7 L7 PPS 68 (Top 10 form)

In that run, we never had more than 2 consecutive victories or defeats

And we followed that by:

15 Jan 2011 - 17 Sept P30 W2 D9 L19 PPS 23 (Near-record low bottom of the League)
Title: Re: The Reds are staying up!
Post by: normal rules on March 13, 2014, 07:18:30 pm
leeds don't seem to subscribe to "the barons law" getting tonked back to back and shipping 9 goals in the process.

I cant see them getting anything at burnley either!
Title: Re: The Reds are staying up!
Post by: BigH on March 13, 2014, 08:43:47 pm
With most of the bottom four clubs only having 11-12 games left, each is going to have to average 1.5 points per game to get to 45 points and stand any realistic chance of staying up; 45 points would have kept you up in 2 out of the last 3 seasons (in fact 43 points would probably have kept you up).

To put this in context, that's 'edge of the play-offs' form and I just don't see it happening - famous last words - from the sides below us. We, on the other hand need to get 9 points from 11 games to get to the same total. Definitely doable given our terrific home form - famous last words again - so long as we can keep the current team free of injuries and suspension and get hold of (yet) another centre half.

What are the odds on us going down?
Title: Re: The Reds are staying up!
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on March 13, 2014, 08:57:58 pm
Latest odds against us going down. 2/1

Odds on us staying up 1/3.
Title: Re: The Reds are staying up!
Post by: The Red Baron on March 14, 2014, 09:04:54 am
leeds don't seem to subscribe to "the barons law" getting tonked back to back and shipping 9 goals in the process.

I cant see them getting anything at burnley either!

There are always exceptions that prove the rule!  ;)

Anyway, a sneaky punt on Weeds this weekend could pay off at big odds.
Title: Re: The Reds are staying up!
Post by: idler on March 14, 2014, 06:34:36 pm
A Leeds fan that I work with has put £100 on Burnley to beat Leeds.
He reckons it's a surefire bet and will give him £183.