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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: MrFrost on March 16, 2014, 04:51:58 pm
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Where is it? I see the latest theory is that it has been landed somehwhere so it can be used in a 9/11 style attack.
I've said all along I don't think it's in the ocean.
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Strange isn't it ??
There are so many factors to consider, not least the complete cooperation of everyone on board to be 'hijacked' like this. Not a single communication from anyone on board 'if' it has been landed somewhere. Did the hijackers' confiscate every single cell phone, iPad and tablet on board ?
Have they killed everyone not part of the plan ?
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Can the mobile phones not be tracked in anyway, even if turned off?
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I think a UFO has took it.
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If the pilots did go rogue, turn off the comms systems and go wildly off course then the likelihood is that the plane has been shot down, having been categorised as "unidentified, hostile."
Now that these facts have emerged the country that did shoot it down will probably be willing to allow the truth about its fate to emerge. Had they done so earlier they'd have been accused of shooting down an unarmed passenger plane. Now they can argue, with some justification, that they were defending themselves against suspected terrorists.
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I've just been reading a leaked report (how true it is I don't know) that says that 20 of the passengers were military defence personnel, and that they were specialists in electronic cloaking devices, capable of hiding a big plane. America and Israel lead the way in this technogy but Iran, Russia and China have closed the gap. Could this plane be hidden for phase two of the operation? Could it be used to deploy a nuclear warhead or a dirty bomb
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Interesting concept Nudga, but I would doubt that would happen with an in-service airliner, for the simple reason that most air forces have militarised versions of airliners normally used as freighters, military passenger transport, refuelling etc.
Surely for such an experiment one of those aircraft would have been used, that or an empty regular airliner?
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It was the snakes.
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Nah, Samuel L Jackson would've sorted them out.
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Where is it? I see the latest theory is that it has been landed somehwhere so it can be used in a 9/11 style attack.
I've said all along I don't think it's in the ocean.
I'm with you .... and thankfully not with them
Will have to look where Marianas Trench is ... if its in that zone they will never get anything back I don't suppose
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Possibilities-
1) it's was hijacked and crash landed in the sea or rainforest. The area it could have crashed in is so vast it may not be found for years.
2) it's been hijacked and landed somewhere where cellular devices would receive no service.
The Iranians on fake passports have to be of interest to the investigation surely. The whole thing just shows how good the worlds anti terrorism defences are though. Useless. I've said it all along, if someone wants to cause a major incident they will do.
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2) it's been hijacked and landed somewhere where cellular devices would receive no service.
Surely someone in Bentley would have spotted it?
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If its still flying Woodsys missed Penno at Newcastle will eventually shoot it down !
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Maybe they stopped off at Mcdonalds for a 99p cheeseburger. :chair:
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jUST PUT MY PHONE ON AEROPLANE MODE & NOW IT'S VANISHED
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Now this is the forum where more knowledgeable people than most of us (Mick excepted) discuss the ongoing missing plane theories.
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-malaysian-airlines-mh370-contact-lost.html
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Funnily enough I was watching the news this evening when they showed us a picture of that radar arc which went north to south and I thought to myself "clearly The Radar on Diego Garcia hasn't shown a trace of the airliner!
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So it got hijacked by terrorists who have flown it towards Diego Garcia a top secret Yank air base in the Indian Ocean?............
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Sproty.
Nice idea, but I can't buy that. You reckon the Yanks would have come under attack, foiled it, and then kept quiet about it? Never in a million years. The spooks have a PR battle to win. They need to keep the American people believing that motherhood and apple pie is under 24/7 threat. If there had been an attack on Diego Garcia, it would have been in the public domain the moment it happened.
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Well, I know what I'll be reading for the majority of my night shift...
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I'm more and more convinced it has been landed somewhere. As for the passengers, who knows.
A lot of speculation that there was high value cargo being carried.
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http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/03/18/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-flight.html?smid=tw-share&_r=2&referrer=
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I see the BBC are reporting that the relatives of the Chinese who are missing are threatening to go on a hunger strike. Yeah because that will help them find a plane. Idiots.
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They are going to go on hunger strike because they think the authorities aren't giving them all the info they can, I don't think they think it will help them find the plane. I've seen the shit they eat in china, a hunger strike would be a blessing out there.
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The Russians have shot it into a million pieces from a nuclear sub in the region. All to divert the world from what was happening in Crimea..........and it has worked a treat.
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Just a thought. The pinging to the geostationary satellite has enabled the authorities to work out the corridor that the plane was in when last it pinged. But apparently the ping occurs every 30-60 mins. So presumably, they ought to know the corridors it was in on a fairly regular timescale. But they haven't announced this. Seems strange.
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Those poor families, I wouldn't even want to imagine how desperate, how frantic they must be that they think the only way to get answers is by endangering their own health by going on a hunger strike.
To lose a loved one in any kind of accident is agonising, just imagine the added torture of not knowing if they are dead or alive or even if they will ever find any trace of them.
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Just a thought. The pinging to the geostationary satellite has enabled the authorities to work out the corridor that the plane was in when last it pinged. But apparently the ping occurs every 30-60 mins. So presumably, they ought to know the corridors it was in on a fairly regular timescale. But they haven't announced this. Seems strange.
That's what I can't work out too. They are hiding something , someone has a damn good idea where it is or where it was blown up and by whom if that's the case.
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They think they have found some of the remains 1500 miles off the coast of Australia. Wonder what it was doing down there.
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I don't think this is the reality for a minute but the best conspiracy theory I've read is that the hold was chock full of gold being shipped to China.
The whole thing is an audacious robbery.
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I think if it is the plane that they have found its likely that there was some sort of fire or loss off pressure that caused all on board to die and the plane just flew until it ran out of fuel.
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I think if it is the plane that they have found its likely that there was some sort of fire or loss off pressure that caused all on board to die and the plane just flew until it ran out of fuel.
It doesn't explain why the co pilot calmly contacted them and said "alright goodnight" long after communication systems had started to be switched off by someone. Or why he failed to sign off with the correct information at that time.
It all points to some sort of hijack.
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They think they have found some of the remains 1500 miles off the coast of Australia. Wonder what it was doing down there.
Those images prove nothing yet - could just be a whale?
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It could be a whale before they are able to confirm what it is.
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It could be a whale before they are able to confirm what it is.
boom boom !
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They are going to go on hunger strike because they think the authorities aren't giving them all the info they can, I don't think they think it will help them find the plane. I've seen the shit they eat in china, a hunger strike would be a blessing out there.
I've eaten "the shit they eat in China" lots of vegetables not much meat but very tasty. I don't normally like lamb but I had some of the best I have eaten in Mongolia when I was working there, boiled to remove the fat and then slow roasted it just fell apart.
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Sichuan cuisine is some of the finest in the world.
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Korean food is the dog's b*llocks.
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Philipino food IS the dog !
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Aussies not looking very hard since they got the call from Uncle Sam!
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Well, looks like I was wrong.
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Could still be a long time before all the questions are answered.
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It took 2 years to find the Air France black box didn't it?
It is just all so bizarre, hopefully the truth will reveal itself in a reasonable timescale so that the families can get some sense of closure.
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It's not that bizarre really. It was either hijacked but you wouldn't have expected them to just fly till the fuel ran out and ditch in the sea. Or there was some sort of electrical fire on board causing decompression the pilot tried a U turn and the plane flew itself until it ran out of gas.
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The latter theory seems the most plausible at the minute, although for that to be the case it would have all had to have happened really quickly given no may day call... And as you said, you wouldn't expect a hijack scenario or a pilot suicide in these circumstances.
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If it has been flying on it's own until it ran out of fuel with everyone on board unconscious then the CVR (if they ever find it) won't tell them much as it only records 2 hours data then writes over itself. Obviously in most accidents 2 hours of cockpit voice is more than enough. Not sure if the FDR works in the same way but that might at least tell them something. I really have no idea what's gone on, but I think with the deliberate alterations to the flight plan (if they did actually happen) and the fact it's ended up in such a remote place so far from it's intended destination then pilot suicide, after incapacitating everyone else on board by altering the cabin pressure, looks as likely as anything. Although the fact that no one will confirm what it had in it's cargo bay is a bit worrying. Will certainly make for interesting viewing on Air Crash Investigation in a few years time.
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If it has been flying on it's own until it ran out of fuel with everyone on board unconscious then the CVR (if they ever find it) won't tell them much as it only records 2 hours data then writes over itself. Obviously in most accidents 2 hours of cockpit voice is more than enough. Not sure if the FDR works in the same way but that might at least tell them something. I really have no idea what's gone on, but I think with the deliberate alterations to the flight plan (if they did actually happen) and the fact it's ended up in such a remote place so far from it's intended destination then pilot suicide, after incapacitating everyone else on board by altering the cabin pressure, looks as likely as anything. Although the fact that no one will confirm what it had in it's cargo bay is a bit worrying. Will certainly make for interesting viewing on Air Crash Investigation in a few years time.
Seems a bit of a drastic suicide method. Taking 200+ people with you.
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Didn't say I agreed with his methods, but seems just as likely as most of the other theories going around. Plus it's happened before. Surely if it was such a massively technical problem that it took out everyone on board it wouldn't keep flying for another 7 hours? Also the fact there was no May Day call is very odd. We'll probably never find out anyway.
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It certainly is a mystery Dave. I think they'll work it out eventually, but could be a few years yet.
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Anyone else think it's a bit strange that with all the advances of technology we've had over recent years these "black box" recorders can only hold 2 hours worth of data and the batteries only last 30 days?
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Anyone else think it's a bit strange that with all the advances of technology we've had over recent years these "black box" recorders can only hold 2 hours worth of data and the batteries only last 30 days?
I agree it's strange. Why do they need batteries anyway? Surely everything could be saved to some sort of hard disk that doesn't required batteries?
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Anyone else think it's a bit strange that with all the advances of technology we've had over recent years these "black box" recorders can only hold 2 hours worth of data and the batteries only last 30 days?
I agree it's strange. Why do they need batteries anyway? Surely everything could be saved to some sort of hard disk that doesn't required batteries?
The data is saved to disk, the batteries are required to power the locating beacon
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The obvious solution for me is cloud storage - surrounded by the bloody things.
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The obvious solution for me is cloud storage - surrounded by the bloody things.
boom tish
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Heard a radio interview with an aviation expert earlier. The interviewer was astonished that a pilot might be able to turn off the location transponder, meaning that the plane was to all intents and purposes, untraceable. He wondered why no one had thought about what would happen if a captain turned to the dark side or went doo lally and did this. The expert said that it just wasn't be something that should have happened. But there were no systems to stop it happening.
Reminded me of the finest line in Dr Strangelove. The mad air base leader, General Ripper has sent the bombers to attack Russia at his own initiative. The President quizzes the head of the Air Force about how this could have happened.
President Merkin Muffley:
General Turgidson, I find this very difficult to understand. I was under the impression that I was the only one in authority to order the use of nuclear weapons.
General Turgidson: That's right, sir, you are the only person authorized to do so. And although I, uh, hate to judge before all the facts are in, it's beginning to look like, uh, General Ripper exceeded his authority.
1:56 here
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RbfXhCzUgWs
Genius
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Am I the only one that is sick and tired of hearing about this plane in the news. The plane has crashed in the sea. There are no survivors. The chances of finding the black box is a million to one. It's time to move on. If any debris or the black box is found then that is the time to do a news update. Otherwise please find something else to report on. That is all.
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What, and stop divertng people away from the real issues like the corrupt heart of the government?
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Am I the only one that is sick and tired of hearing about this plane in the news. The plane has crashed in the sea. There are no survivors. The chances of finding the black box is a million to one. It's time to move on. If any debris or the black box is found then that is the time to do a news update. Otherwise please find something else to report on. That is all.
You probably are, yes.
I guess the families of the missing/dead are desperate to know what happened. Also, the aviation industry and travellers who fly on this aircraft type will certainly be interested to know the cause, of what we assume as ultimately a crash.
If you are sick and tired of hearing about it, why post on a thread 2 weeks after the previous post? Why not just ingnore it?
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I'm with Robtherover. I'd much rather the news organisations spent their time keeping our politicians in line. The recent expenses debacle with Mrs Miller is the latest example of poor judgement and double standards by our politicians.
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The "million to one" price on finding the black box seems fair. Can I have a pound on?
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Gaz, remember Mick is a professional gambler as well as a Betterware impresario. He wont have arrived at those odds without due care and attention to the salient facts. His attention to detail is meticulous, as is his use of CTRL+C and CTRL+V.
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The "million to one" price on finding the black box seems fair. Can I have a pound on?
Just be grateful I ignored your offer. You need the pound much more than I do.