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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Filo on April 05, 2014, 05:22:28 pm
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And Husbands decision to be Maldini on the edge of the box was one humungus mistake, well in control of the game and we get a schoolboy error like that, which sent Rovers into default panic mode!
And also we saw today why Copps isn't a full back, awful positioning for the second goal and didn't learn from it, being caught in an identical fashion later on
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Have people realised that Hubby can't defend yet?
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It's a simple truth, a bad decision changed the game. Dust ourselves down and go again.
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Why does Mcculough not get a game?
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Well that's my Keepmoat good run gone. Have not seen us lose there until today. Stupid mistake by Hubby. Second goal could and should have been cleared and the third goal came from a free kick that never was. The Birmingham winger dived right in front of us. No contact from the Rovers players, right in front of the lino.
But that's the beauty of the game isn't it? We *should* have had that wrapped up. Their keeper made two or three very good saves. We were the better team for 2/3 of that game. Birmingham very, very poor, and their supporters were a disgrace.
As for the Rovers team. Well, Brown was excellent. Billy looked a yard off the pace to me. Cotterill goes missing for long periods. Sam solid. Hubby and Coppe - schoolboy errors that were punished. Furman isn't up to the task. Keegan did OK. Duffy seemed off his game.
I'd hate to watch Birmingham every week. Dire.
Roll on Tuesday - I have a feeling that we'll beat Bolton.
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They offered nothing until Husband gifted them a route back in. Absolutely abysmal.
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Did they have a shot on goal. They were really poor bet they think it's xmas 2 shocking goals we gave away :sick:
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I thought Cotterill was by far our best player today..and Duffy had a absolute mare and he knew it too
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Well they had at least 3 on target
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Have people realised that Hubby can't defend yet?
Have seen him do something similar 4/5 times this season. I can't believe the management team haven't drummed into him by now that he should not try to be too clever in such dangerous positions. Just clear it for ***** sake.
I'm beginning to think we should give Stevens a start until he sorts himself out
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For what its worth i thought it was a foul for brums first by macheda(however tv replay will give me better view) Second was route one shambolic defending but it was an area birmingham kept looking to exploit throughout the game so had obviously spotted a flaw for roversin that are. The third wasa extremely soft free kick , that said we should be able to defend a ball in the boxa bit better regardless .
In all a game we were so comftable in we have gave away points that with a bit better nouse and luck we would have had. A frustrating day but hopefully rareing to go on tuesday to cement our championship status.
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We went to pieces after the equaliser, bad mistake by Husband but we offered nothing after it as a team, giving them the initiative to take the points, very frustrating. We have been beaten 3-1 by the worst side I have seen all season.
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Husband made a mistake. Duffy was appalling all the time he was on the pitch. Robinson made an eqully poor hash of an easy chance. Drop Husband? Nah.
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Quinny would have cleared their second goal if he had gone with his left foot instead of waiting to get it on his preferred right.... i think the replays will prove this.
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I've seen the goals and I would have to agree Quinn should have cleared it
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Quinny would have cleared their second goal if he had gone with his left foot instead of waiting to get it on his preferred right.... i think the replays will prove this.
He did save us from being 2 down earlier on when Macheda took advantage of Copps poor positioning.
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I've seen the goals and I would have to agree Quinn should have cleared it
Agreed. I thought he had it all under control. I was astounded when he put it in his own net.
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I thought Cotterill was by far our best player today..and Duffy had a absolute mare and he knew it too
Lucas Neil was our best player by a mile.
Agree about Duffy though.
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I think today we looked good down the spine of the team it was both flanks that let us down...
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Birmigham played an ugly and cynical brand of football I would hate to have to watch evrry week . Their keeper made some great saves and tthe ref allowed them to get away with some very dirty play
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Copps and Husband found out/undone. Poor result Tues and we're well and truly back in the delegation dog fight
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What happened to Wellens and Meite
Are they likely to be fit for Tuesday
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Copps and Husband found out/undone. Poor result Tues and we're well and truly back in the delegation dog fight
They don't seem to realise we're on the same number of points as them.
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Copps and Husband found out/undone. Poor result Tues and we're well and truly back in the delegation dog fight
I hope we don't get anything delegated to us. :(
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Copps and Husband found out/undone. Poor result Tues and we're well and truly back in the delegation dog fight
Copps didn't put in his greatest display for his 400th appearance.
But it's wrong to say we need a result on Tuesday, we probably need one more win to really see us safe, we have a few opportunities to find that win.
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Zigic changed the game when he came on.
We looked scared of him even though he's crap, and we lost our concentration on the other elements of the game as a result and made the mistakes.
Once we made the first mistake, the heads went down and we became more worried about him (the great fouling bas**rd) and continued with the mistakes.
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We threw the game away today which is a shame after getting a great result at Leeds last week. Husband has potential but, when all's said and done he's still a kid learning the pro game. If Jones had been in the team he'd have just barked at him to get rid.
I think the pre-match adjustments threw one or two of the players; what is it with us and centre-halves in warm ups. I'd be surprised if Meite plays again for us this season. His hamstring has been touch and go for the last 3 weeks and it sounds like it's finally popped. However, what we really missed was Wellens. I just hope he's ok for the Bolton, Ipswich and Millwall games because we need to take points from these. In fact we need to take points as long as we have a team because I don't see any quality in reserve or on the bench. Lord knows what we'll do if we get a major injury or suspension to one of the first team now.
3-4 points should see us right. The bottom three still have it all to do and - famous last words - I'd be surprised if any of them put a 3-4 game winning run together which is what they need to do.
Is Tamas back next game?
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BigH- I agree with most of what you say, excpet that Husband should know by now that you don't fanny about in that sort of area.
I like the lad but at times he's an accident waiting to happen.
Apparently Meite felt his calf in the warm-up and was pulled out as a precaution. He may even be Ok for Tuesday (as may Wellens). If he's not I'd put McCullough in. We lacked creativity with Wellens out and Coppinger on defensive duties. Have to say that he was as badly at fault on their second goal as Husband was on the first.
"Never weaken a strength to strengthen a weakness."
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Have to admit you're right TRB. A case of me giving Coppinger the benefit of the doubt because it's not really his position.
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Have to admit you're right TRB. A case of me giving Coppinger the benefit of the doubt because it's not really his position.
Oh, I'm willing to cut him some slack over the error he made. He's not a full back and he's wasted in that role.
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Comedy Defending,the old ways have resurfaced today,Husband has made a terrible mistake,in this league you need to learn safety first,Quinn could have had a cup of tea and still stopped it,it beats me why he didn't,too many changes and the loss of our defensive leader,put the jitters in there,Wellens the cog of our midfield as well,but pure and simple mistakes cost us today,this game needs to be a one off,mistakes like that get you relegated,they've got to be bang on form for the next one,it's gone now,three points against Bolton would paper over it a bit,it just shows take a few major players out and we are vulnerable again,there's so little between most of the teams.
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Echo most of the above posts
Husband is supposed to learn from mistakes (but I thought we should have had a foul just before his error). Husband should be released to wreak havoc in Midfield because he does look full of it going forward. He will go on to better things I am sure and probably wont be a full back
Duffy omg ... I thought he was going to run riot this Season but he seems to either be low on confidence / out of touch or just not up to it. He seems to have pace and seems a dead ball specialist but yesterday not for the first time he had a mare and his final act had me reciting an old piece of Commentary (some will remember it said about Ray Clemence) " and Duffys day is now complete a total disaster"
Poor old Copps was way out of position for their second and again later but as has been said he is wasted there and it made me wonder where our Manager was "looking" when his pre game soundbite said we are doing well because we have a good squad with competition for places and everyone wanting to be involved - which is healthy. Good up to Copps though - a legend (did anybody else spend the first 25 mins seeing if the clock had got to 26 yet ?)
Lucas Neill looked a class act - and a pity he did not break the net with that headed chance (Great save keeper but sorry I did not get a photo of any of your spectacular "saves" and wished you had let a dolly in personally)
Theo - what can you say - either of the chances that fell to him MIGHT have altered the result but we will never know. Earlier this season he would have scored one or both instead of neither
Zigic did change the game as well - but I dislike him and the way he "operates"
PS I still think we will stay up for sure and a win Tuesday would be great
PPS All the players (and Managers) I have mentioned are better than I am - or ever was - or ever will be !
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All in all they did their best and held on for
as long as they could . You can't loose Meite and Wellens and have Copps playing in defence AND expect to win . Brumies were poor first half but when the Giant came on it was only a matter of time . Had they played us last week we would have contained him and them. Let's hope everyones fit by Tuesday as that will be a hard game .
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Lets be fair they went for it 4-3-3 from the start changing to 4-2-4 when they had the chance, Our midfield was to defensive and always will be with Keagan and Furman playing together, too many were not up to it on the day but that's football. I was despondent yesterday but having had a good look at the fixtures the bottom 6 have got left I can see just 1 more win taking us over the line.
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Having had a look at the replay, that second goal is a Paul Quinn own goal. How he has not kept that out is baffling.
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Having had a look at the replay, that second goal is a Paul Quinn own goal. How he has not kept that out is baffling.
Didn't trust his left peg, so went with his right which made it awkward toclear
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This is a fella playing elite level football, and who has done for the best part of a decade - and he didn't trust his own ability not to slice a ball into his own net with his left peg when under no pressure?
I'd give him the OG, fine him a weeks wages.
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This is a fella playing elite level football, and who has done for the best part of a decade - and he didn't trust his own ability not to slice a ball into his own net with his left peg when under no pressure?
I'd give him the OG, fine him a weeks wages.
It's the only reason I can think of for him going with his right when the natural angle suggests that you go with the left. I agree with you that a profesional player of his experience should do better in that situation
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Players make mistakes. Can't really 'fine him a weeks wages' just because it transpired that it affected the result.
Quinn has been very good since he's moved into the centre of defence. If he was scoring an own goal every week, fair enough, have a go, but in reality he hasn't really put a foot wrong for a while.
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Yes pib, I actually thought we should fine him a weeks wages.
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Yes, I really used the term 'fine him a weeks wages' literally. As opposed to, 'scathingly criticise him for one mistake.'
Jeez, some people need it spelling out, don't they?
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This is a fella playing elite level football, and who has done for the best part of a decade - and he didn't trust his own ability not to slice a ball into his own net with his left peg when under no pressure?
I'd give him the OG, fine him a weeks wages.
It's the only reason I can think of for him going with his right when the natural angle suggests that you go with the left. I agree with you that a profesional player of his experience should do better in that situation
I thought he was trying to get the ball round the post because there was a Birmingham player rushing in. Had he just stopped the ball that player would have had a tap-in. Maybe I'm giving Quinn too much credit for reading the situation but that's how I saw it.
If Quinn's being "fined" then how about Coppinger (caught out by a straight ball) and Johnstone who hared off his line and made the chance much easier for the attacker. I think there had to be an element of collective responsibility on that second goal.
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It looks like Coppinger and Johnstone were both partly to blame, but Quinn could have swung the left peg at it and put it out for a throw or behind for a corner. Instead he turns it in to his own net.
Arguably, Johnstone did his job as most defenders playing football above Sunday league level would have been expected to clear that ball. Unfortunately Quinn had a shocker.
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Well, watched the highlights a few times now after being there yesterday. We should have won that game. By far the better chances. Birmingham took the gifts we gave them, but they were rubbish.
ON to Tuesday. COME ON!
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From where i was sat Quinny did well to even get to the ball not his fault at all.
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From where i was sat Quinny did well to even get to the ball not his fault at all.
From the south east corner I'd thought the same.
From my armchair, he had a shocker.