Chris Powell of he wants it
Chris Powell of he wants it
Charlton were bottom when he left. I am missing your logic.
Chris Powell of he wants it
Charlton were bottom when he left. I am missing your logic.
They weren't. They were 22nd, and one point behind 4th bottom.
So are you writing off his managerial capabilities based on one point? :chair:
He got them promoted as champions from league 1 and kept Charlton up for 1 season before he got sacked
He got them promoted as champions from league 1 and kept Charlton up for 1 season before he got sacked
Something which Dickov hasn't had the opportunity to do. He's done enough this season to earn a chance in League One with us.
He got them promoted as champions from league 1 and kept Charlton up for 1 season before he got sacked
Something which Dickov hasn't had the opportunity to do. He's done enough this season to earn a chance in League One with us.
Oh yeah because he achieved the target set to him of keeping us up, didn't he?
He got them promoted as champions from league 1 and kept Charlton up for 1 season before he got sacked
Something which Dickov hasn't had the opportunity to do. He's done enough this season to earn a chance in League One with us.
Oh yeah because he achieved the target set to him of keeping us up, didn't he?
He got them promoted as champions from league 1 and kept Charlton up for 1 season before he got sacked
Something which Dickov hasn't had the opportunity to do. He's done enough this season to earn a chance in League One with us.
First post in months:
Replace Paul Dickov (who seemed content to lose away to Leicester) with a guy who is out of work, has experience in getting promotion from Legue One, has worked on a budget and survived in the Championship and plays a fantastic style of football:Sean O'Driscoll should be the next manager of Doncaster Rovers[/u]
First post in months:
Replace Paul Dickov (who seemed content to lose away to Leicester) with a guy who is out of work, has experience in getting promotion from Legue One, has worked on a budget and survived in the Championship and plays a fantastic style of football:Sean O'Driscoll should be the next manager of Doncaster Rovers[/u]
Russ wilcox for me. Donny boy and done well at scunny.
We already have the ready made replacement in Brian Horton
Been there done it
We already have the ready made replacement in Brian HortonI don't follow this at all.
Been there done it
We already have the ready made replacement in Brian Horton
Been there done it
If Dickov isn't good enough then the bloke who has been advising him certainly isnt!!
I'm f**ked off enough without reading this garbage. Come on fellas please grow up, someone had to go down and we went down fighting despite an horrific run. All managers are signed up for success unfortunately very few of the 92 clubs can be successful......sack most of them ?Rubbish, dickovs job was to keep us up. we should have been safe 5 games ago, his appalling tactics have cost us. I seriously doubt his ability to get us promoted back, just ask Oldham.
DD, Isn't Chris Powell from London, would he move North? Wouldn't he look for a new manager's position in the London area?
Change for changes sake.
There is no good reason to sack Dickov.
Change for changes sake.
There is no good reason to sack Dickov.
Change for changes sake.
There is no good reason to sack Dickov.
Consistency is a valuable commodity in football.
Consistency is a valuable commodity in football.
Agree 100% but you need to hav someone in charge who is capable. If the league wasn't so poor this year we would have been relegated weeks ago
Consistency is a valuable commodity in football.
Agree 100% but you need to hav someone in charge who is capable. If the league wasn't so poor this year we would have been relegated weeks ago
The league wasn't poor. The Championship never is.
Consistency is a valuable commodity in football.
Consistency is a valuable commodity in football.
Agree 100% but you need to hav someone in charge who is capable. If the league wasn't so poor this year we would have been relegated weeks ago
The league wasn't poor. The Championship never is.
It has been this season. Yeovil and Barnsley wouldn't have made the play off's in league 1. Blackpool and Millwall have been shite all season
Consistency is a valuable commodity in football.
Agree 100% but you need to hav someone in charge who is capable. If the league wasn't so poor this year we would have been relegated weeks ago
The league wasn't poor. The Championship never is.
It has been this season. Yeovil and Barnsley wouldn't have made the play off's in league 1. Blackpool and Millwall have been shite all season
I disagree.
The three smallest clubs have gone down. As the bookies expected.
We are competing in a league where some clubs have sugar daddies, the pull of the Premiership is real and others fight to get back to the Prem with enormous parachute payments.
No way can this EVER be described as a poor league.
So which manager we've had over the last decade would say say hasn't been baffling with their tactics?
...PD has been consistently baffling with his tactics. We should have seen the signs when the goalkeeper was allowed to go up for a corner in the first match of the season.
So which manager we've had over the last decade would say say hasn't been baffling with their tactics?
...PD has been consistently baffling with his tactics. We should have seen the signs when the goalkeeper was allowed to go up for a corner in the first match of the season.
So which manager we've had over the last decade would say say hasn't been baffling with their tactics?
...PD has been consistently baffling with his tactics. We should have seen the signs when the goalkeeper was allowed to go up for a corner in the first match of the season.
How about Dean Saunders?
So which manager we've had over the last decade would say say hasn't been baffling with their tactics?
...PD has been consistently baffling with his tactics. We should have seen the signs when the goalkeeper was allowed to go up for a corner in the first match of the season.
How about Dean Saunders?
NO
But the question was. So which manager we've had over the last decade would say say hasn't been baffling with their tactics?So which manager we've had over the last decade would say say hasn't been baffling with their tactics?
...PD has been consistently baffling with his tactics. We should have seen the signs when the goalkeeper was allowed to go up for a corner in the first match of the season.
How about Dean Saunders?
NO
I'd have Flynn before him.
But the question was. So which manager we've had over the last decade would say say hasn't been baffling with their tactics?So which manager we've had over the last decade would say say hasn't been baffling with their tactics?
...PD has been consistently baffling with his tactics. We should have seen the signs when the goalkeeper was allowed to go up for a corner in the first match of the season.
How about Dean Saunders?
NO
I'd have Flynn before him.
I think its gonna be more a case of who'd want to come here.. The budget wont be great,it never is especially in league 1. Lets sit back and see who applies.... but the more I think about it, the more i want Dickov to go.
Saunders is a class above Flynn, why do you think Flynn didn't get to manage us un the Championship?So which manager we've had over the last decade would say say hasn't been baffling with their tactics?
...PD has been consistently baffling with his tactics. We should have seen the signs when the goalkeeper was allowed to go up for a corner in the first match of the season.
How about Dean Saunders?
NO
I'd have Flynn before him.
Apparently he ain't going anywhere!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27269286 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27269286)
Are people saying keep him just so we don't look like a sacking club or do they genuinely believe he's a good manager?
Either way we're in for a year of mediocrity.
He will be lucky to keep his job. I just wonder when the original 'criteria' was set how he got to the top of the list. It doesn't say much for the other names that may have been on the list. He was hardly a revelation at Oldham. Most managers get sacked on relegation, that is a fact.
Are people saying keep him just so we don't look like a sacking club or do they genuinely believe he's a good manager?
Either way we're in for a year of mediocrity.
Doesn't that depend on the budget for next season?
Are people saying keep him just so we don't look like a sacking club or do they genuinely believe he's a good manager?
Either way we're in for a year of mediocrity.
Doesn't that depend on the budget for next season?
One of a number of factors. We'll have one of the top budgets in the league and under achieve due to having a manager that struggles tactically when attacking.
He will be lucky to keep his job. I just wonder when the original 'criteria' was set how he got to the top of the list. It doesn't say much for the other names that may have been on the list. He was hardly a revelation at Oldham. Most managers get sacked on relegation, that is a fact.
The criteria was stay in this league. That was a big ask, he failed by just one goal. He's a young manager and he will have learned a thing or two this season.
He deserves another shot at it.
Are people saying keep him just so we don't look like a sacking club or do they genuinely believe he's a good manager?
Either way we're in for a year of mediocrity.
Doesn't that depend on the budget for next season?
One of a number of factors. We'll have one of the top budgets in the league and under achieve due to having a manager that struggles tactically when attacking.
Who says we'll have one of the top budgets in the league?
Well I would say the only reason he got the job is because he was a friend of JRs and it was clearly his appointment because it took us so long to appoint an unemployed manager
Well he aint this time
I think its gonna be more a case of who'd want to come here.. The budget wont be great,it never is especially in league 1. Lets sit back and see who applies.... but the more I think about it, the more i want Dickov to go.
We will have one of the best squads in League 1 though. We don't need to do much strengthening
I wonder if we might see Little and Large back in charge by the end of September?
The criteria was stay in this league. That was a big ask, he failed by just one goal. He's a young manager and he will have learned a thing or two this season.
He deserves another shot at it.
The majority of the teams around the bottom have shown recent upturns in form. Rovers were probably the worst team in the last few months, without bothering to look at the form table. When it really mattered, the other managers got the best from their players. There has to be a breakdown in tactics somewhere, going from a position where I was thinking we might break into the 50's points wise, to where we are today.
I think its gonna be more a case of who'd want to come here.. The budget wont be great,it never is especially in league 1. Lets sit back and see who applies.... but the more I think about it, the more i want Dickov to go.
The majority of the teams around the bottom have shown recent upturns in form. Rovers were probably the worst team in the last few months, without bothering to look at the form table. When it really mattered, the other managers got the best from their players. There has to be a breakdown in tactics somewhere, going from a position where I was thinking we might break into the 50's points wise, to where we are today.
They haven't shown an upturn in form, the league has finished exactly as BST predicted it would. The only thing BST failed to identify was Rovers difficult run in and collapse towards the end. To a large part that can be attributed to injuries.
I think its gonna be more a case of who'd want to come here.. The budget wont be great,it never is especially in league 1. Lets sit back and see who applies.... but the more I think about it, the more i want Dickov to go.
We were in the top 3 or 4 in terms of budget in Lg1 the last time. Where do you get this mis-information from?
Thinking back to our short list, one of the hot favourites was Lomas - he did well at Millwall? Butcher was on there too, interesting that no one else in the championship or league one has snapped him up.
Dickov will take us up next year in second spot. Blades will be champions.
Time for our team to evolve into an attacking force which befits dickovs vision
The majority of the teams around the bottom have shown recent upturns in form. Rovers were probably the worst team in the last few months, without bothering to look at the form table. When it really mattered, the other managers got the best from their players. There has to be a breakdown in tactics somewhere, going from a position where I was thinking we might break into the 50's points wise, to where we are today.
They haven't shown an upturn in form, the league has finished exactly as BST predicted it would. The only thing BST failed to identify was Rovers difficult run in and collapse towards the end. To a large part that can be attributed to injuries.
They have shown better form than Rovers. Charlton, Blackpool, Millwall have all obtained draws or wins in the last six games when it mattered. If it wasn't for miracle keeping, we would have lost at Millwall. Even Yeovil and Barnsley have picked up more points in the last 6. Only Birmingham have been equally as shocking.
If we based our decision on the interview, I can see how Dickov got it. Talks as good a game as anyone!
If we based our decision on the interview, I can see how Dickov got it. Talks as good a game as anyone!
Yep but surely in football track records count more than an interview?
I think its gonna be more a case of who'd want to come here.. The budget wont be great,it never is especially in league 1. Lets sit back and see who applies.... but the more I think about it, the more i want Dickov to go.
We were in the top 3 or 4 in terms of budget in Lg1 the last time. Where do you get this mis-information from?
SM can you tell us what the board's opinion is currently of Dickov?
Lee JohnsonNigel Worthington has done a good job at York and previously with Norwich
Gary Rowett
Dean Smith
Rob Jones - worth a shot
Justin Edinburgh
Paul Tisdale
Derek McInnes
I think if those in charge have sense they'll make a change. You can't let a manager fail and then keep him on. He said if they backed him he would succeed - he's failed.
I think if those in charge have sense they'll make a change. You can't let a manager fail and then keep him on. He said if they backed him he would succeed - he's failed.
I think if those in charge have sense they'll make a change. You can't let a manager fail and then keep him on. He said if they backed him he would succeed - he's failed.
Can't you??
Dean Saunders!! We've heard all these statements before, but he proved all the doubters wrong.
Scroll back two years this forum was full of the same statements just moaning about a different name.
And you were all wrong, I think you'll be wrong again
At least Appleton had experience at this level and above, wasn't he in charge at Pompey in the prem towards the end?
At least Appleton had experience at this level and above, wasn't he in charge at Pompey in the prem towards the end?
'The end' -is there any more fitting reason why he should never darken our door?
Dickov will take us up next year, he took us to Leicester who only beat us on the grounds of an iffy penno. How many teams have one better?
The fact that were learning as a club will take us up
We'll be strong as hell in league 1, definitely the team to beat
Thinking back to our short list, one of the hot favourites was Lomas - he did well at Millwall? Butcher was on there too, interesting that no one else in the championship or league one has snapped him up.
Dickov will take us up next year in second spot. Blades will be champions.
Time for our team to evolve into an attacking force which befits dickovs vision
Lomas was but a very poor interview did for him. Butcher was using us to get a pay rise at Inverness (allegedly!).
My choice would have been Michael Appleton.
I think if those in charge have sense they'll make a change. You can't let a manager fail and then keep him on. He said if they backed him he would succeed - he's failed.
Can't you??
Dean Saunders!! We've heard all these statements before, but he proved all the doubters wrong.
Scroll back two years this forum was full of the same statements just moaning about a different name.
And you were all wrong, I think you'll be wrong again
Dean had half a season and didn't bring a single of his own players in. He had to deal with the French revolution so didn't have the easiest job, plus we looked like we were going down anyway. We still managed to look a threat going forward at times unlike this season. Dickov has had a full season and was backed towards the end of the summer and allowed to bring in Turnbull, Robinson, Wellens and Khumalo then backed further in January with Sharp, Meite and Tamas joining. Only one has had the ability to build his own team and he's failed.
The fact that were learning as a club will take us up
We'll be strong as hell in league 1, definitely the team to beat
It will depend on the manager we have in place. Can't see us challenging for promotion if Dickov is still in-charge. He doesn't get the best from his players, plays them out of position and is tactically inept.
I think its gonna be more a case of who'd want to come here.. The budget wont be great,it never is especially in league 1. Lets sit back and see who applies.... but the more I think about it, the more i want Dickov to go.
We were in the top 3 or 4 in terms of budget in Lg1 the last time. Where do you get this mis-information from?
SM can you tell us what the board's opinion is currently of Dickov?
I'm sorry I can't. It's not normally a subject I raise with the club, I have my opinion and they have theirs. They see much more of a coach ( and to be honest that's what he is) than any supporter ever does.
I think its gonna be more a case of who'd want to come here.. The budget wont be great,it never is especially in league 1. Lets sit back and see who applies.... but the more I think about it, the more i want Dickov to go.
We were in the top 3 or 4 in terms of budget in Lg1 the last time. Where do you get this mis-information from?
I think its gonna be more a case of who'd want to come here.. The budget wont be great,it never is especially in league 1. Lets sit back and see who applies.... but the more I think about it, the more i want Dickov to go.
We were in the top 3 or 4 in terms of budget in Lg1 the last time. Where do you get this mis-information from?
If you read my statement again SM, I said the budget wont be "great". I really hope that you're telling me I'm wrong. Doubt it though.
We're one owner down this time though. Don't know what effect that will have.
I saw JR after the game and asked him if he was coming back - his response was "we'll see".
I think its gonna be more a case of who'd want to come here.. The budget wont be great,it never is especially in league 1. Lets sit back and see who applies.... but the more I think about it, the more i want Dickov to go.
We were in the top 3 or 4 in terms of budget in Lg1 the last time. Where do you get this mis-information from?
If you read my statement again SM, I said the budget wont be "great". I really hope that you're telling me I'm wrong. Doubt it though.
I think there is a misplaced loyalty by the club in keeping Dickov. He did not fulfil what was asked of him, namely keeping Rovers in the Championship, and as a result has cost Rovers millions of pounds in lost revenues. In any other job he would be fired.
I think its gonna be more a case of who'd want to come here.. The budget wont be great,it never is especially in league 1. Lets sit back and see who applies.... but the more I think about it, the more i want Dickov to go.
We were in the top 3 or 4 in terms of budget in Lg1 the last time. Where do you get this mis-information from?
SM can you tell us what the board's opinion is currently of Dickov?
I'm sorry I can't. It's not normally a subject I raise with the club, I have my opinion and they have theirs. They see much more of a coach ( and to be honest that's what he is) than any supporter ever does.
Does that mean things have changed since you posted this in January in answer to a similar question?
He's not going anywhere, not unless he chooses to.
Thinking back to our short list, one of the hot favourites was Lomas - he did well at Millwall? Butcher was on there too, interesting that no one else in the championship or league one has snapped him up.
Dickov will take us up next year in second spot. Blades will be champions.
Time for our team to evolve into an attacking force which befits dickovs vision
Lomas was but a very poor interview did for him. Butcher was using us to get a pay rise at Inverness (allegedly!).
My choice would have been Michael Appleton.
And Michael Appleton is so good he's managing who exactly now?
Joe Royle, has bags of experience.
Joe royle??
U having a laugh?
He hasn't managed for about 20 years he has no knowledge of league 1 now,
Aye he did.
For a month
Maybe PD would benefit from sitting in the stands for the first part of the game, to get a fuller view of the game right across the park. See a lot of managers do that nowadays, and relay back to the dugout. I think it gives a good indicator as to the shape and if the lads are playing to the game plan. It's obvious from many of his interviews that he knows what's gone on, where tweaks need to be made. He's very honest. Think he just needs that full pre-season and the opportunity to build something on the foundation we have.
I'm not at all despondent now the dust has settled - remember we missed out by the finest of margins and we weren't an embarrassment to the championship. Nice to see what other supporters are saying about us as well.
And bar the penno we'd have taken 4 points off the champions. Dicky just needs that bit more experience when to shut up shop and when to push. We've played some nice stuff at times, and it's nice to see a young manager not afraid to make changes.
Totally irrelevant thread, Dickov staying, end of debate!
Billy Davies - Can't afford him.
Tony Mowbray - Can't afford him.
Steve Clarke - Can't afford him.
Micky Adams - Shall we ask Kevin Blackwell & Bryan Robson whilst we're at it?
Rob Jones - No experience
Michael Owen - No experience
Chris Hughton - Can't afford him.
Rene Meulensteen - Wouldn't be surprised if he sticks to coaching rather than management after the disaster at Fulham.
Aidy Boothroyd - Almost got Northampton relegated to the Conference this season.
Iain Dowie - Probably the most realistic name on the list, but he seemed happy on Sky Sports last time I saw him.
Ray Wilkins - Not managed on a full-time basis for 16 years, even then his record at Fulham was questionable.
Too late..........the CEO say's it's Dickov to stay.
I think its gonna be more a case of who'd want to come here.. The budget wont be great,it never is especially in league 1. Lets sit back and see who applies.... but the more I think about it, the more i want Dickov to go.
We were in the top 3 or 4 in terms of budget in Lg1 the last time. Where do you get this mis-information from?
SM can you tell us what the board's opinion is currently of Dickov?
I'm sorry I can't. It's not normally a subject I raise with the club, I have my opinion and they have theirs. They see much more of a coach ( and to be honest that's what he is) than any supporter ever does.
Does that mean things have changed since you posted this in January in answer to a similar question?
He's not going anywhere, not unless he chooses to.
I don't see your point. In January I was asked a question and I knew the answer to it. I hadn't discussed this in recent weeks therefore I didn't know the answer and stated so.
Anymore digs you want to make at me Lifelong?
Thinking back to our short list, one of the hot favourites was Lomas - he did well at Millwall? Butcher was on there too, interesting that no one else in the championship or league one has snapped him up.
Dickov will take us up next year in second spot. Blades will be champions.
Time for our team to evolve into an attacking force which befits dickovs vision
Lomas was but a very poor interview did for him. Butcher was using us to get a pay rise at Inverness (allegedly!).
My choice would have been Michael Appleton.
And Michael Appleton is so good he's managing who exactly now?
His record as a coach is outstanding. He's the one who put together Roy Hodgsons team at WBA, and has continued to coach at various levels for the England national team. He's managed at Portsmouth, Blackburn and Blackpool. But his record as a coach is what made him attractive and realistically that's what we need at Doncaster.
Still analysing my posts Lifelong?
Equally though Dickov in fairness has built a team that competes. We aren't a bad side we just didn't get results. We need that bit of win at all costs mentality alongside Dickov's style and we'd be ok.
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/james-beattie-a-wanted-man/
Isn't PD a well known ex pro with contacts?
Isn't PD a well known ex pro with contacts?
Yes, that's my point. Our previous and current manager are well know ex pros with contacts. Seems to be part of the criteria.
Despite cries to close this topic, its credit to the VSC Forum moderators that they have allowed this topic to continue. The position about Dickov's future is not cut and dry as some posters think. How many clubs have given their manager the vote of confidence and weeks later he is out? The same could happen to Dickov. Also the poll conducted on this suggested Rovers fans are split almost 50/50 over whether Dickov should stay or go. As other posters have said as fans we will always support the club, Doncaster Rovers, but at times not support the manager or even the Board, but doesn't mean we are disloyal to the club, because it is bigger than all of us.Les if the club change the decision and relieve Dickov of his duties it must be done this week and replacement brought in quickly. We will wait and see, but I do not believe the decision will be reversed.
If we sack him now,then we would have to advertise for applicants.Draw up a short list , interview them then a second interview.This could take us till the end of May.Can we afford to take our time like this , when we have players out of contract some of whom we need to keep.
Why don't you just give it a rest. It's going to be a long close season without you chipping in every 5 minutes with variations on a post of Dickov's not good enough. You remind me of the donkey in Shrek. "Are we there yet"?If we sack him now,then we would have to advertise for applicants.Draw up a short list , interview them then a second interview.This could take us till the end of May.Can we afford to take our time like this , when we have players out of contract some of whom we need to keep.
Will the current players want to continue playing for Dickov? He has failed at L1 level, what are the chances that he will be successful? He should have dropped to conference level after Oldham and built a successful managerial record, and then like Saunders moved to league management. I hope for our sakes and for the sake of our club I am proved wrong. Sadly, his track record suggests otherwise.
Steve, you might be right. I think the Board should have kept its own counsel for a while before backing Dickov, it would have allowed them to consider all options before making an announcement. If things go belly up under Dickov, it will be the Board and especially the CEO who will be made to look silly. A period of silence and reflection would have been a wise move.I'm sure the period of silence and reflection was done prior to the end of the season. Personally I am pleased all was considered well before the end and that the statement of intent was issued clearly and concisely so soon after our relegation. This was no Knee jerk reaction from the club...quite the opposite!
Gavin couldn't have been clearer.
Now he must think he was wasting his time.
Dickov is staying, get over it.
Time to end the thread?
Not reading through all this shite, but isn't Powell the huddersfield manager, and Brian Horton now at Southend, russ Wilcox struggled like f*** at scunny in league 1.
Ridiculous suggestions
My mistake, didn't look at dates,
I did think 7 pages was bloody good going 😅
Gary Megson
TRB, whoever eventually takes over will be unpopular with some fans, especially if he loses a few games early on.
Dean Smith would be my first choice. Redfearn second.
I'd give Jones 5 games or so just see how he does. May as well this season is already done with.
Dean Smith would be my first choice. Redfearn second.
I'd give Jones 5 games or so just see how he does. May as well this season is already done with.
Gary Megson has plenty of experience, and we wouldn't have to pay compensation or moving costs
Gary Megson has plenty of experience, and we wouldn't have to pay compensation or moving costs
I'm not sure a change of manager would make much difference to our finances. Am I correct in saying Dickov is still on a rolling contract? Depending on the particulars he wouldn't be due any/much compensation.
The Board are probably going to stick with him becuase he is the cheap option! That is the only reason I can think of thats in his favour!
Supporter Numbers are going to have to tail off alarmingly before they'll do anything, by the looks of it! Otherwise, he would have been sacked this morning (or preferably during last summer :headbang:)
Anymore not turning up to the KM and there will be no fans there.
8000 season ticket holders?
Is that right?
What season?
Whoever replaces him, I would like it to be someone who is keen to not only develop our youth but give them plenty of game time too. They couldn't do much worse and it would mean less of a lottery each season, signing cast offs and out of favour players. Be nice to see some quality players come through and want to stay.There is definitely a time to bring in the youngsters but I am afraid now is not that time especially for a new manager. Jones is already on record as saying the majority are not yet ready, of the ones that have been thrown in only Middleton and Paul McKay? look anywhere near in my opinion I can't see a new manager wanting to utilise the youngsters to achieve top 6 and would and would be looking to make a mark, I'm afraid it's the loan market or freebies for this season
Long shot Gary BrabinCurrently already has the fans on his back at non-league Tranmere.
Every man and his dog is starting new manager's post. This is the original!Probably because every man and his dog is being named ss a potential replacement for PD ! :)
Every man and his dog is starting new manager's post. This is the original!
Every man and his dog is starting new manager's post. This is the original!
Could the VSC perhaps organise some fundraising to get you the medal you so richly deserve for starting it?
What about wenger
Typical rovers?and players and how many
Dickov brought all his own staff in as did Saunders as did sod
Typical rovers?and players and how many
Dickov brought all his own staff in as did Saunders as did sod
Big Sam??
Not sure it's been mentioned earlier in the thread, but I seem to recall reading somewhere that Bramall (or maybe Watson) was matey with Neil Warnock.mmmmmm. good shout excelent at this and championship level, wonder what odds you'll get for him
I mentioned Colin on another thread a few days ago...In Looe ... I'll nip over and have a word in his ear :)
I doubt it though, doesn't he live in Cornwall now?
Redfern watching Oldham V Peterboro today according to Twitter.
get Graeme Jones
OK, I'm moving closer to the opinion we should attempt to get Smith and RO'K from Walsall and bring Bradshaw with them.
Heres a shout.
Gareth Ainsworth from Wycombe.
He's changed his mind then because he said in the summer he believed Swindon had made a bid. I find it hard to believe there hasn't been other bids/ contacts with a view to a bid - I'd imagine there's dozens of clubs looking at him. Smith's going to say and do all he can to keep him there.
http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/walsall-fc/2015/08/15/walsall-reject-swindon-bid-for-bradshaw/ (http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/walsall-fc/2015/08/15/walsall-reject-swindon-bid-for-bradshaw/)
Heres a shout.
Gareth Ainsworth from Wycombe.
You have to carry out due diligence, that takes time.
You have to carry out due diligence, that takes time.
Are they on FIFA's banned list have got convictions ie driving bans or sexual offences are they still under contract are their references kosher are they who they say they areYou have to carry out due diligence, that takes time.
SM, I don't want to come across thick. But what sort of due diligence are you talking about? It can be interpreted in a number of ways.
Are they on FIFA's banned list have got convictions ie driving bans or sexual offences are they still under contract are their references kosher are they who they say they areYou have to carry out due diligence, that takes time.
SM, I don't want to come across thick. But what sort of due diligence are you talking about? It can be interpreted in a number of ways.
Just off the top of my head
Which badges does Jones have? Is qualified to be a manager?
Which badges does Jones have? Is qualified to be a manager?
Jones completed his UEFA A License in the summer and will begin an applied management course next year as he works towards the arbitrary qualifications required in modern coaching.
Which badges does Jones have? Is qualified to be a manager?
Jones completed his UEFA A License in the summer and will begin an applied management course next year as he works towards the arbitrary qualifications required in modern coaching.
Hope the Free Press don't sue you for plagiarism.
That's taken word for word from a piece by Liam Hoden on the Free Press website today.
http://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/doncaster-rovers/rovers-news/doncaster-rovers-no-hiding-jones-desire-for-permanent-position-1-7463629
Not like you to quote a lazy journalist SM.
We wouldn't want another Ron Meades on our hands either!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952%E2%80%9353_Colchester_United_F.C._season
We wouldn't want another Ron Meades on our hands either!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952%E2%80%9353_Colchester_United_F.C._season
How the hell did you find that RB!!
Sorry, Howard Wilkinson is a dinosaur.
Back to topic. Howard Wilkinson Director of Football, Neil Redfearn as manager.
For me id love to see Copps involved in some way ! Maybe assistant to Rob Jones, and create a legacy like Swansea have done with Gary Monk.....keep it in the Rovers family, I'm convinced that not too far in the distant future Copps will manage our beloved Rovers....thought ?
Adkins is sitting near me, it's obvious why he's at the game. What worries me is that Brian Laws is also sitting with him.
This would be my preference (unlikely in brackets).
1. Jones
2. Smith/ROK
3. Clough
(4. McDermott)
(5. SOD)
Swailes is another tainted with Richardson connections.
Not for me.
I think you can put 2. In brackets as well. I'd love to see it but I can't see Smith leaving Walsall unless for a much bigger job. RO'K might not want to come back here either.
Jones as a No2 only. He has a lot to learn - particularly how to pick a decent side!
Back in the squad and Development Manager, I would think. If he thinks he's better than that now, well I suppose he'll leave, but I think RJ has the Club at heart and he knows you have to be patient in this game. His chance will come at some point.
Swailes is another tainted with Richardson connections.
Not for me.
Swailes was signed by Richardson, as was Jones and many others. But were they close to him?
For all his many faults, I thought Richardson was a reasonable judge of talent, at least in terms of those who could make the step from non-League to the professional game. Not unlike Barry Fry in that respect.
And before any lawyers get involved I'm in no way suggesting that Barry Fry is a crook!
Swailes is another tainted with Richardson connections.
Not for me.
Swailes was signed by Richardson, as was Jones and many others. But were they close to him?
For all his many faults, I thought Richardson was a reasonable judge of talent, at least in terms of those who could make the step from non-League to the professional game. Not unlike Barry Fry in that respect.
And before any lawyers get involved I'm in no way suggesting that Barry Fry is a crook!
Jones was VERY close to Richardson and the story goes that he complained after one match about Mike Jeffrey not passing the ball to him and good old Ken said never mind son I'll get rid of him - and he did, very soon after that game! Swailes was one of the players who Richardson proudly said called him Uncle Ken! I presume when you said he was a reasonable judge of talent you're not counting Sam Daho, Padi Wilson, the Esdailles, the goalie who played against Brighton, Cunningham, Finley etc.
who wood you like as manger
Why would you want to uproot and relocate from Cornwall back to South Yorkshire??
Remarkable.
That would get half of our lot on his case from day one then.
While as a player I like jones he has already stated he is happy with the squad, we need some fresh faces in or mid table at very best
Some slight changes in the betting today. Redfearn and Jones both drifting whereas Darren Ferguson has shortened even more to 5/2.
Some slight changes in the betting today. Redfearn and Jones both drifting whereas Darren Ferguson has shortened even more to 5/2.
Eek. Don't like the man, but arguably a good record?
Gary Johnson now in there also...
Gary Johnson now in there also...
That's quite concerning...
I think much would depend on what Jones says at interview and how he wants to do things, things we don't really know. I've outlined a few potential questions below. These are things I would want to know if employing Jones and that tells us more about what he wants to achieve than the last 2 games. If he wants a radical change on the pitch then it's clear the last few games tell us nothing.
In terms of moving forwards, I would suggest that you'd want to know these things to weight up what manager you would want to go with. I saw another thread on this about job description etc, this is probably more interview questions....
It would actually also be interesting to see what forum posters would do if faced with these questions, to see just what we all want
1. What style of play do you want to employ? IE what is your vision for the playing style etc?
2. What are your preferred formations?
3. What are the current weaknesses and how do you believe you will address them.
4. How radical a change do you forsee we need in the first team?
5. What potential signings do you want? Maybe not names, but positions/type of player.
6. What backroom staff/team do you want to see? Including which of the existing should remain.
7. How quickly do you believe you can get the team playing your way and how?
8. Ultimately what do you think can be achieved as a target and by when?
9. Do you wish to see any infrastructure changes and if so what? IE new facilities or changes to the culture of the youth system etc.
10. What squad size do you wish to see and numbers in each position?
11. Finally do you own a pen?
Colincramb,
Most applicants will hold the Uefa A Licence;
http://www.thefa.com/st-georges-park/fa-learning/fa-national-courses/the-fa-uefa-a-licence
and a lot of them will also hold the Pro licence, a necessary requirement in this country if you're serious about coaching;
http://www.thefa.com/my-football/coach/coaching-courses/the-fa-uefa-pro-licence
Back in the squad and Development Manager, I would think. If he thinks he's better than that now, well I suppose he'll leave, but I think RJ has the Club at heart and he knows you have to be patient in this game. His chance will come at some point.
Brendan Rodgers & co might be out of work soon!
Brendan Rodgers & co might be out of work soon!Keith curle certainly did his home work at Scouse land tonight, fear the worst for Rogers and sod, just shows there players in the lower leagues that just nead a chance
I would love Rodgers to get the push, and Sean come back, nothing against Brendan, just a spot of selfishness creeping in!. :coat:
Brendan Rodgers & co might be out of work soon!
Looked like a very O'Driscoll performance tonight. 47 shots (!!!) from Liverpool and only 1 goal. I wonder how many of those shots came from around the edge of the box, after a ponderous build-up that allowed the defence plenty of time to draw their lines and force the issue?
Brendan Rodgers & co might be out of work soon!
Looked like a very O'Driscoll performance tonight. 47 shots (!!!) from Liverpool and only 1 goal. I wonder how many of those shots came from around the edge of the box, after a ponderous build-up that allowed the defence plenty of time to draw their lines and force the issue?
Jonathan
If the Carlisle keeper made three "world class" saves (not sure why you put that in quotation marks as you're not quoting anything I said) then is be wondering what the team had done with the other 44 shots.
And when I was assessing the performance, I'd be considering the 3 division and £200m squad cost gulf between the two sides.
"Jones as a No2 only. He has a lot to learn - particularly how to pick a decent side!".......was aimed at the side he put out against Oldham. Quite simply, the first half was a shocker and it was definitely linked to the 11 he put out. I couldn't possibly comment on the game that you refer to, as I wasn't there!
Darren Ferguson is now second favourite. Stuart Gray has moved from 12/1 to 8/1
Gary Megson
I heard something yesterday that made my blood run cold. Rumour that Brian Laws seen at the training ground.
Just a repulsive thought...
I heard something yesterday that made my blood run cold. Rumour that Brian Laws seen at the training ground.
Just a repulsive thought...
The Elk of Terry Venables as manager? Too deer.
Yeah Stuart Gray also!
I am scared were going to end up with another Dickov. Look at the latest name mentioned in the rumour mill, if he is on the shortlist then god help us.
From the names mentioned only Jones and Ferguson appeal to me.
Sammy, a new manager can only sign loans and frees, not exactly a big pool of talent to choose from. I think it will be more using better what we have.ALot of the clubs in our league would love to have the squad of players we have,but i think it needs a new manager to get the best out of them,we have too many midfielders that cant get forward to help williams but also get back to defend,so they all want to sit in front of the back four,the players cant all be changed but maybe the young-uns coming through might show more effort and push the regulars for their place if given the opportunity
Jones can do a great job with the Rovers...he actually appears to care about the club and the fans.
He knows the division, the club staff & knows what the fans want to see.
If we all back Jones...I think we may get something like the Dave Penney Era back.
the star says Shaun Derry leading contender??
well I don't no that I'm just going to read itthe star says Shaun Derry leading contender??
Well the Star are wrong.
Dont believe everything you read askern!!true
And knowing this division isn't part of the criteria, achieving promotion from this division and having knowledge of maintaining Championship status is.
And knowing this division isn't part of the criteria, achieving promotion from this division and having knowledge of maintaining Championship status is.
Little hints letting us know you know who's in line?
Second half was as good as we've had in 2 or 3 years
I can't think of many games when we've come from behind like that and created as many opportunities as that
Anderson caused chaos constantly,
I can't believe people can't see the improvement today than bury, Oldham Southend, we used to constantly struggle to break sides down
Today we didn't
Today was much better than it was under dickov at home and that's from a dickov supporterStill "a dickov supporter"?!
Today was much better than it was under dickov at home and that's from a dickov supporterStill "a dickov supporter"?!
Guilty again of conceding a late goal. happened a lot last season, the team hasn't yet learnt how to kill the game at 2-1. An experienced manager might be able to change this weakness.
I can't think of many games when we've come from behind like that and created as many opportunities as that
Anderson caused chaos constantly,
I can't believe people can't see the improvement today than bury, Oldham Southend, we used to constantly struggle to break sides down
Today we didn't
I think David Pleat would be a good choice, has bags of experience and good tactician.
anyone but Jones, should never been given a players contract he should be gone simple as that, i
anyone but Jones, should never been given a players contract he should be gone simple as that, i
anyone but Jones, should never been given a players contract he should be gone simple as that, iare you for real or just a WUM ?
Ally McCoistNope. Failed with Rangers.
Well we now have a clear favourite with the bookies at least....
Jose Mourinho?
Is to late for Ewe Rosler to throw his cap in the ring.
He'll be lucky to still be in a job on Monday unless Massimo Cellino has gone soft .
With all due respect, they are not 'footballing men', therefore their definition of "high calibre" may be different to yours or mine?
With all due respect, they are not 'footballing men', therefore their definition of "high calibre" may be different to yours or mine?
With all due respect, they are not 'footballing men', therefore their definition of "high calibre" may be different to yours or mine?.. they may well be more football men than us by dint of the fact they put 1 Million into our club every season to keep us afloat.
With all due respect, they are not 'footballing men', therefore their definition of "high calibre" may be different to yours or mine?.. they may well be more football men than us by dint of the fact they put 1 Million into our club ever season to keep us afloat.
With all due respect, they are not 'footballing men', therefore their definition of "high calibre" may be different to yours or mine?
I think they'll take his interview into account more than how he's done in these 4 or 5 games
Would be a bit silly to employ a manager on match stats
Would be a bit silly to employ a manager on match stats
The Board would look at a manager's match stats record. One of the failures of Dickov was his inability to change his plans and formation when the game was changing and going against his original plans. The Board must get a manager who can think on his feet, and be able to change his game plan, as stated before this was something Dickov failed to do.
Looking forward to our new high calibre manager. The Board's word not mine.
Looking forward to our new high calibre manager. The Board's word not mine.
Said as if you're just desperate to be disappointed by it. A strange approach, really.
Surely the higher your win ratio you would think the better tactician you are. If you have a high ratio you must have come from behind more often than someone with a low ratio. You're not always going to score first are you.Would be a bit silly to employ a manager on match stats
The Board would look at a manager's match stats record. One of the failures of Dickov was his inability to change his plans and formation when the game was changing and going against his original plans. The Board must get a manager who can think on his feet, and be able to change his game plan, as stated before this was something Dickov failed to do.
That's not match stats
Unless they're going to look at videos of games he's managed and seen how he's effected the game then there's not much stats can tell u
Looking forward to our new high calibre manager. The Board's word not mine.
Said as if you're just desperate to be disappointed by it. A strange approach, really.
Sorry but I cannot see how you can possibly deduce that from the original statement.
Looking forward to our new high calibre manager. The Board's word not mine.
Said as if you're just desperate to be disappointed by it. A strange approach, really.
Looking forward to our new high calibre manager. The Board's word not mine.
Said as if you're just desperate to be disappointed by it. A strange approach, really.
Sorry but I cannot see how you can possibly deduce that from the original statement.
Perhaps the huge slice of cynicism that's evident through the vast majority of this message board. If les meant it genuinely then apologies to him, I'm just tired of all the negativity on here.
Constant digging at the board, the potential candidates, the manager(s), the players. Some of the expectations are out of control. We're just Doncaster Rovers.
I'm fed up of reading about win ratios. The sooner we get this appointment confirmed the better, then we can get past the inevitable negativity at it before a game's even played, then get back to football.
Looking forward to our new high calibre manager. The Board's word not mine.
Said as if you're just desperate to be disappointed by it. A strange approach, really.
Disagree, I have said either on this thread or elsewhere that I do believe the Board when they say they are seeking a high calibre new manager. I have also said it could be someone who none of us had either named or considered for the manager's post.
Regarding match stats, how can a manager be judged if his on field performance isn't taken into consideration, it was the reason why Dickov lost his job, and will be a key reason for the next appointment.
As for these godforsaken win ratios. There are so many other factors to take into account. Budgets, cultures, resources, opposition. They're indicative of some qualities but by no means definitive, and I'm sick to death of them!
Has anybody mentioned Paul Ince, Not particularly the manager who i would go for, But without a job at the minute. ''The Best Coach in the World'', is also available John Carver!.
Has anybody mentioned Paul Ince, Not particularly the manager who i would go for, But without a job at the minute. ''The Best Coach in the World'', is also available John Carver!.
Has anybody mentioned Paul Ince, Not particularly the manager who i would go for, But without a job at the minute. ''The Best Coach in the World'', is also available John Carver!.
I wouldn't mind carver - thought he did ok at Newcastle keeping them up and look at them now under the ex-England manager, but Ince? I would put him alongside Lee Clark as a f*ck*ng useless liability with an ego far bigger than his talent and unemployable as s manager!
Mentioned on another thread but the more I think about it the more it becomed possible! Maybe we have shortlisted a couple or three guys who have applied but due to commitments with clubs (am assuming here they are not out of work) could only do interviews in this current international break!I think they have their man (men) but are crossing the t's
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If you're only looking for experience then Ince and Clark fit the bill
Both have had success and failure, same as every manager going
What happened to Nigel Clough?
Danny Wilson only needs to manage us and Rotherham to have a full house of managing SY teams.
Mods could you archive this thread as it is no longer relevant.