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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Bentley Bullet on May 03, 2014, 06:01:46 pm
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Well done football league officials in achieving what you set out to do this season. May the 'bigger' clubs be favoured for many years to come.
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We will be a bigger club next year though ;-)
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We will be a bigger club next year though ;-)
Hence the last sentence.
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Can't blame the refs
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Can't blame the refs
Oh yes I can, old lad. I just have.
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Can't blame the refs
Oh yes I can, old lad. I just have.
You're deluded then if you think we are going down because of them
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I was deluded at the start of the season, thinking that we'd stop up despite officials favouring the 'bigger' clubs.
Perhaps you will realise that I am right if we ever get into the Championship again.
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Quite right. Ah well, off to watch the Dons tomorrow so at least won't have to worry about dodgy refs, dodgy cheating and dodgy timekeeping. Not sure any other sport would accept what we tolerate in football!
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Quite right. Ah well, off to watch the Dons tomorrow so at least won't have to worry about dodgy refs, dodgy cheating and dodgy timekeeping. Not sure any other sport would accept what we tolerate in football!
One of the reasons I stopped watching the Dons was because of the dreadful standard of referees and linesmen.
No dodgy cheating or time keeping though.
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We will be a bigger club next year though ;-)
The refs we had last season suggest otherwise.
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We didn't go down because of referees. We went down because we create nothing and score very little
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Blaming the officials is a load of b*llocks we went down because today in our cup final we offered absolute jack shit and have done away from home near enough all season.
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The difference today is that one manager thought "F**k it we are going for it" and one thought "F**k it what do I do now"
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We were destined to struggle in the Championship because our team cost considerably less to construct that almost all of the other teams, so obviously lacked quality in comparison.
Having said that, despite all the unfair decisions given against us by officials, not least the ludicrous abandonment at Charlton, it was only inferior goal difference that sent us down.
That's why I say it was.....
RELEGATION BY REFEREE
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The difference today is that one manager thought "F**k it we are going for it" and one thought "F**k it what do I do now"
With the greatest of respect, b*llocks :evil: you don't know what Dickov was thinking, and what he had to work with. Retrospective armchair managing is great for debating but it's largely in the world of fantasy/guessing/b*llocks.
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I've heard this argument over and over again why was the decision to abandon the Charlton match ludicrous> From what I saw and I wasn't there it should have been abandoned long before it actually was, And as for losing 3 points we were down to 10 men they had just scored they were on the up in that game we could possibly have lost 4-3 the way we perform. Please give it a rest about the possibilities and concentrate on the actuals
we weren't good enough
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It's complete mythology that officials favour bigger clubs. Better teams create more situations where they are likely to get favourable decisions. Crap teams do not. And we were crap.
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I've heard this argument over and over again why was the decision to abandon the Charlton match ludicrous> From what I saw and I wasn't there it should have been abandoned long before it actually was, And as for losing 3 points we were down to 10 men they had just scored they were on the up in that game we could possibly have lost 4-3 the way we perform. Please give it a rest about the possibilities and concentrate on the actuals
we weren't good enough
Didn't we also have another goal disallowed before it was abandoned?
Would it have been abandoned had Charlton been 3-1 up?
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We were destined to struggle in the Championship because our team cost considerably less to construct that almost all of the other teams, so obviously lacked quality in comparison.
Having said that, despite all the unfair decisions given against us by officials, not least the ludicrous abandonment at Charlton, it was only inferior goal difference that sent us down.
That's why I say it was.....
RELEGATION BY REFEREE
How on earth can you say that we were relegated due to the decision of one referee at one match out of 46.?What about the errors by our defenders in the 5-0 thrashing at Bournemouth? What about the late goals conceded which have cost us points? What about the goal-keeping errors? Not many I agree, but goals were conceded. Shall I go on?
Talk a bit of sense for crying out loud!
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Go on then Bristol what do you think the managers were thinking, the tactics might be a clue, Birmingham went for it from the beginning and could have scored 2 or 3 before Bolton scored according to McInally who was watching it for SKY, At 2-1 why wouldn't Clarke think go for it particularly when we were losing 1-0 and can you really argue that at the same point Dickov thought what do I do next? How long did it take for him to make the change?
Said it before I'll say it again he is tactically naïve.
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I've heard this argument over and over again why was the decision to abandon the Charlton match ludicrous> From what I saw and I wasn't there it should have been abandoned long before it actually was, And as for losing 3 points we were down to 10 men they had just scored they were on the up in that game we could possibly have lost 4-3 the way we perform. Please give it a rest about the possibilities and concentrate on the actuals
we weren't good enough
Didn't we also have another goal disallowed before it was abandoned?
Would it have been abandoned had Charlton been 3-1 up?
Why wouldn't it?
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I've heard this argument over and over again why was the decision to abandon the Charlton match ludicrous> From what I saw and I wasn't there it should have been abandoned long before it actually was, And as for losing 3 points we were down to 10 men they had just scored they were on the up in that game we could possibly have lost 4-3 the way we perform. Please give it a rest about the possibilities and concentrate on the actuals
we weren't good enough
1. Didn't we also have another goal disallowed before it was abandoned?
2. Would it have been abandoned had Charlton been 3-1 up?
Why wouldn't it?
1. Yes we did, and the point you are making is?
2. Because some people use the pathetic and un-intelligent argument that we are little old Donny, and that Charlton are a bigger club based in the capital.
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We were destined to struggle in the Championship because our team cost considerably less to construct that almost all of the other teams, so obviously lacked quality in comparison.
Having said that, despite all the unfair decisions given against us by officials, not least the ludicrous abandonment at Charlton, it was only inferior goal difference that sent us down.
That's why I say it was.....
RELEGATION BY REFEREE
How on earth can you say that we were relegated due to the decision of one referee at one match out of 46.?What about the errors by our defenders in the 5-0 thrashing at Bournemouth? What about the late goals conceded which have cost us points? What about the goal-keeping errors? Not many I agree, but goals were conceded. Shall I go on?
Talk a bit of sense for crying out loud!
I didn't say that, for crying out loud! :facepalm:
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The alarm bells were ringing 6-7 games ago.
Could not see were the next goal was going to come from never mind the next win.
Dicov and his side kicks are a disgrace.
Everytime i've been this season all they've done is spent 90 minutes abusing the officials.
Time to go!
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Referee's didn't relegate Rovers, it was due to the work of a clueless manager.
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Paul Dickov gained us more points than referees did in their efforts at being neutral.
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The alarm bells were ringing 6-7 games ago.
Could not see were the next goal was going to come from never mind the next win.
Dicov and his side kicks are a disgrace.
Everytime i've been this season all they've done is spent 90 minutes abusing the officials.
Time to go!
Given my Seat Number - I get a view of PD and he kicks every ball and YES he appeals for everything.
Who behind the Dugout fails to remember when he came as Oldhams Manager and spent seemingly all of the game with his hands in the air appealing for every thrown in free kick fould whether going for us or them ? At one point and it was obviously unscripted he did an arm waving routine and behind him most of the people including me were mocking him in unison
Now he does less arm waving but does watch for confirmation that someone was / was not offside or it was / was not a Penalty from the Video guy just behind me. He can wait ages looking back then when he gets confirmation that we have been wronged even for a throw in he then starts on the officials including the 4th one.
Whether this makes him a bad Manager I know not but a lot of the time it means he misses things on the Pitch that may have a bearing on what another Manager might deem "important"
So a Referee has made a decision that may have done us for a Point (they still may have scored later) but Akefinwa is correct on a different thread ...as is the poster above ... we should have been better throughout the season and insulated ourselves from individual errors by Officials - though there have been plenty of them.
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leave the manager alone for gods sake. the league had to much qualty for us to cope with.