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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: not on facebook on July 16, 2014, 08:54:36 am
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just short of 8million immigrants in the UK
13% of population not born in UK
1 in 3 in London are a foreigner
1 in 7 in the country are a foreigner
and these are the numbers Powers that be are aware of
while UK is in the EU these figures will only get greater,unless there is a major turn around on EU policy if UK stay in it
ok i take on Board that UK needs the imput of some immirgation to take up
the slack in low qualified jobs because far too many fcukers living off the benafit system and have no intention of doing a days work,as they shag
like Rabbits giving birth to jump on the gravy Train.
every action has a reaction
UK benafits system=untold more than happy to milk it and not work=jobs
for some immirgrants as they are not scared of a days hard work=look at
some of the polish
time has now come where UK should be far more picky on the amounts of
immirgrants that are let in ,as in 15 years time british society will no longer
be as we all brought up on.
hospitals,schools,doctors, will have gone Beyond breaking point,and thats not to mention the parts of town and citys that will be completley overun and no go areas for the English man in his Castle.
little roma,little Somalia,little poland,little whatever former eastern bloc country,little whatever african nation will be common areas in UK towns or citys.
look at marsella (spell check) in france
or parts of luton,oldham,bradford,bham in the UK today
where we have 4th or 5th generation of former immirgrants from Pakistan,india etc etc
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You make many valid points Oslo. I agree we need some immigration but the completely open door policy to the EU is totally crazy. Out of Europe now!
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You make many valid points Oslo. I agree we need some immigration but the completely open door policy to the EU is totally crazy. Out of Europe now!
they are all valid Points in my book fella
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Can't find anything to disagree with you on. The second programme is on tonight.
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Agree immigration should make us stronger not just be a open gate which anyone can get into just because they want to. However more English people need to start doing the shit jobs not just be on the claim or else then we will have a gap because of the lack of immigration
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Can't find anything to disagree with you on. The second programme is on tonight.
this immirgation programme only goes to prove one thing....and that is the indigenous folk.who are having to explain themselves to some immigrant
in their own back yard and are being portrayed as 2nd fiddle for doing so
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Agree immigration should make us stronger not just be a open gate which anyone can get into just because they want to. However more English people need to start doing the shit jobs not just be on the claim or else then we will have a gap because of the lack of immigration
exactly as they say in accrington fella.
there are far too many British born People claiming benafits that have never seen
a hard weeks work or even a day due to fact they get a good enough standard living via benafit system
all the polish workers will many of Our so called working class to shame
now there is a wrod from the past working class
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Many people come to UK for money because the wages there is much higher than in their native country.
I stayed only one month there in Barnsley and the first 3 weeks was fantastic. I liked the town, the people, the mentality of the people. The last weeks was very hard, I contacted a viral meningitis at work and I stayed in the hospital. The doctors (from there and from Bucharest) told me to return 1-2 months in Bucharest for recovery and now I'm still at home.
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Hope you get better soon. There are many reasons why immigrants come to our country. Roma gypsies mainly come from what I can gather to escape prejudice in their own countries. This is the type of immigration I and many of my countrymen are against. Countries that persecute the Roma should not be allowed into the EU. Now theses countries probably think if they keep up the persecution they'll all leave and we'll pick up the problem.
I have no problem with immigration if the people coming are needed. I do have a problem with an open door policy when anyone in the EU can come just if they feel like it. We are a crowded country and I would say we are pretty much full up.
It also does not do the country that loses its brightest and best young people to countries like ours any favours long term. Eventually they will just be left with an old population that they can't afford to look after.
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On the health service front. If we stopped having immigrant doctors and nurses the NHS would collapse in weeks. We have lured doctors and nurses from around the world in massive numbers.
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Why haven't we trained our own doctors and nurses? What is Labour's answer to that question?
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When we expanded the NHS capacity we didn't have enough doctors and nurses. Given the training lead time how else would we bring enough staff in to do the job?
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Labour had 13 years to plan. Why didn't they do it? It is dangerous having so many foreigners working in the NHS. My son recently was admitted to A and E and was eventually seen by a doctor. This doctor was foreign and couldn't speak English very well at all. He couldn't understand what my son was telling him about the injury to his leg and my son couldn't understand what the doctor was saying.
This led to the doctor proposing a course of action that was totally inappropriate. Luckily an English doctor got involved and sorted things out. My son heard the foreign doctor getting a bollocking for his misdiagnosis. Luckily this was not a life and death situation but it could have been, especially in A and E.
You also need to think about the impact on the countries where we nick their doctors and nurses. I guarantee you that it means more people in these countries are not getting the healthcare that they need because they don't have as many doctors or nurses because the previous Labour government couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.
When we've got so much unemployment surely we should be able to train our own nurses and doctors and get the dole queue down.
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Thank you IC1967.
About the doctors. When I was in Hospital in Barnsley, I saw doctors prom Poland, India or arabians but not english. Only the nurses where english
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I bet you were really surprised that there were no English doctors. We are one of the richest countries in the world with one of the best education systems and we can't provide enough doctors and nurses. The previous Labour government should hang its head in shame at allowing this situation to develop.
If you'd been in a London hospital you would have struggled to find one English nurse. In fact in London, no matter what the profession you'd struggle to find an English born worker.
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I bet you were really surprised that there were no English doctors. We are one of the richest countries in the world with one of the best education systems and we can't provide enough doctors and nurses. The previous Labour government should hang its head in shame at allowing this situation to develop.
If you'd been in a London hospital you would have struggled to find one English nurse. In fact in London, no matter what the profession you'd struggle to find an English born worker.
you keep slagging off the Labour government for the lack of British staff in
the hospitals and you have a valid point
what is the present day government doing to change the situation i ask
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They are doing a fine job. They are doing their best to turn around the total mismanagement of the previous Labour government but it's going to take many years to put right. I suggest you read the article in the following link to see what is currently happening.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-era-of-education-and-training-for-nhs-staff
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My overall impression from watching the 2 programmes is as follows:
The vast bulk of immigrants are hard working and a gain to our economy. They are much more likely to do the jobs that our scroungers on benefits won't do.
They have depressed wages in certain sectors such as construction.
They have put pressure on public services and housing.
They have ghettoised certain parts of the country.
What to do in the future about the issue? Withdraw from the EU and have a points based immigration system. Make benefits far less attractive and get the scroungers back to work. Train people for the jobs that the economy requires them to do instead of training them for jobs that aren't there anymore.
Sorted.
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Yeah, I was very surprised to see so many doctors form other countries but not only in hospital, in Barnsley the same.
I remember that i saw a gipsy in Sportsdirect and he tried to steal something and then the police arrived and arrested him :thumbsup:
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Yeah, I was very surprised to see so many doctors form other countries but not only in hospital, in Barnsley the same.
I remember that i saw a gipsy in Sportsdirect and he tried to steal something and then the police arrived and arrested him :thumbsup:
just think before making such statements, lets get this right. A gypsy, stealing in Barnsley ???
i don't believe that for a second
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cringe worthy of a programme.
if the bbc wanted to promote immirgration they could have done it at least less obvious
every question asked you felt they was Reading it off a Board behind the camera
they got a few English on With questionable intellect,then paired them off With likeable hardworking eloquent immirgrants,who made them look stupid....
what a suprise,BBC With left wing bias
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Thank you IC1967.
About the doctors. When I was in Hospital in Barnsley, I saw doctors prom Poland, India or arabians but not english. Only the nurses where english
EU citizen gets taken ill in the UK and receives first class medical care from the National Health Service.
IC1967 promotes leaving the EU - hope you never take ill when on holiday in Spain or France or Italy once (heaven forbid) the UK has left the EU and find you're left to wait while insurance companies fight over whose responsibility you are.
Sounds like DMC was lucky that he hadn't chosen to seek his fortune in the USA where the model you espouse would probably see him refused all treatment.
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So are you saying that no one should travel unless it is within the EU because if you fall ill you will have serious problems? What do you think travel insurance is for? What did people do before we joined the EU?
Using your argument for staying in the EU is ridiculous. Even if we left the EU we could still negotiate the same reciprocal health arrangements. Get a grip man. Anyone would think you were a LibDem that wanted to stay in the EU no matter how much it is pointed out how bad it is for Britain.
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Been called many things in my time, but LibDem is probably the biggest insult yet!
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I can't comment on it. I didn't watch it as I went out for a curry.
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Surely you immigrants (emigrants?) aren't allowed a comment anyway?
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I could have (not 'of') called you a leftie Labour supporter. That would have (not 'of') been a far worse insult. Just be grateful the LibDems compromised on their manifesto to allow the Tories to form a government and rescue the country from the devastation Labour left behind.
Nick Clegg is a hero.
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Bloody pinko Islamophile BBC. They're always trying to slip the message under the radar.
Just seen the weather forecast with subtitles on. Said "After the thunderstorms, many parts of the UK will be Sunni for the rest of the week and beyond."
I don't know why I pay my licence fee.
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Could be worse...you could live in Rotherham, apparently it's shi'ite there
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That was Shia class
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Don't live in Donny but heard through my facebook feed there was an EDL protest in the town today. Apparently cost the coppers an extra £300k. Searched on google and found a video of it. A few observations: At one point they were on a football field somewhere in Hexthorpe (I think) and someone on a loudspeaker was saying words to the effect of "The people of Hexthorpe asked us to come out today" and "we are the EDL, We are not the anti-Islam movement but Islam is a problem".Most looked like hooligans seemingly twitchy for a fight. Some were holding up Scottish flags, others Israeli flags !?
I couldn't help but get the feeling that these people generally fall into two classes: Those looking for a tear-up because its entertaining to them and the downright confused.
Maybe what is confusing them is that they are seeing 'immigrants' in their everyday lives - in the supermarkets, in the hospitals, playing for rovers - and they're thinking 'actually these are just alright/normal people' but that there is somekind of fundamental built-up anger or feeling of being disenfranchised. It seems to suggest to me that immigration is not a problem in this country and people don't view it as a major problem. 100 so called EDL members marching in a town the size of Donny is next to nowt. It will get blown out of proportion by the media though because the minority get heard in a democracy.
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As Radio Sheffield said 100 to 150 demonstrators 350 police now I appreciate some bits of counter demonstration but perhaps a bit over the top? although some reports say there was some scrapping
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Approx 200 EDL and equal number of UAF & locals protesting. Both outnumbered by the coppers.
As the EDL marched back towards town, a number of Hexthorpe residents "encouraged" them to get a move on resulting in a couple of minor flash points but nowt serious as SYPD generally had it well covered.
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Approx 200 EDL and equal number of UAF & locals protesting. Both outnumbered by the coppers.
As the EDL marched back towards town, a number of Hexthorpe residents "encouraged" them to get a move on resulting in a couple of minor flash points but nowt serious as SYPD generally had it well covered.
I would hope so with near enough twice as many :)
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Sorry. I missed the second episodes of the soap again cos I went for a Lebanese. No comment.
One of these days I'll get round to immigrants.
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Any chance of anybody uploading the EDL on their way home with kebabs and pizzas?
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Was does England need defending against?
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I bet you were really surprised that there were no English doctors. We are one of the richest countries in the world with one of the best education systems and we can't provide enough doctors and nurses. The previous Labour government should hang its head in shame at allowing this situation to develop.
If you'd been in a London hospital you would have struggled to find one English nurse. In fact in London, no matter what the profession you'd struggle to find an English born worker.
Re the London workforce, what a load of b*llocks. And that is coming from someone who was part of it!
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Was does England need defending against?
Kitsons like the EDL. That's who we need defending against.