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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: afro goal machine on November 19, 2014, 06:06:01 pm
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Why the controversy with Wigan appointing Malky ???
If you dig deep enough everyone has a skeleton in the cupboard
If your deemed unemployable for sexist,racist and ant Semitic texts between friends in a private conversation , then surely %70 of the uk workforce would be shitting it !!!
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i think a lot of it is the cardiff owner stirring it for malky,he didnt want him and against anybody else having him well done whelan for having the balls to stand by your choice.
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political correctness gone crazy,if theres any man what can say they have not used some of the things mackay as said between freinds then i think they are lying,and as for calling someone a chink is that different than being called a pom.a frog,a taff.or a dingle, a blunt no so the fa and anybody like shirt sponsors should get real.but on the bright side for wigan they can bring a new shirt out in time for christmas
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I'm with you bruv.
Can't see why anyone should get get up about it.
Blacks are criminals. Ha ha ha.
Jews are greedy. Ho ho ho.
Genius humour.
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I'm with Stewart Lee on this one, political correctness gone mad
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Football needs to enter the real world and not allow this crap to happen. This also raises the question as to how long do they need to investigate these incidents?? Dragging it out is the FA way.
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now been announced dave whelan as been accused of anti seminism comments to local paper saying jews chase money more than anyone else, accused by d, gold of west ham for telling the truth
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Am I reading that right? I hope not, anyway I'll not comment on it as I hope that I have the wrong end of the stick.
Dave Whelan said that he would stand by Mackay whatever the outcome but has also said that there is a get out clause in the contract should the FA point the finger. Not sure that the guy is all there, but I don't like him anyway, Thatcherite scumbag
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maybe misread it swe whelan is standing by mackay,he hiself as been accused by gold from west ham
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Malky Mackay can be rover manger
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maybe misread it swe whelan is standing by mackay,he hiself as been accused by gold from west ham
Just wondering what 'the truth' part of your post referred to?
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I wonder if those saying its PC madness would have the same view if they were homosexual or Jewish. Racism, etc is unacceptable. ALWAYS. But the punishment needs to fit the crime and its not like he attacked someone for being gay. I don''t want to see people's lives ruined because of their horrid views, just want them to see the error of their ways.
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There is a big difference between making a joke which plays on stereotypes and actual prejudice. The jokes may not be very funny nor "PC" and perhaps someone in such a public position as a premier league manager (as was) should be uber-careful what they say/text/tweet even when in jest and with no malice.
Just because someone makes inappropriate texts does not make them an anti-semite, racist, sexist etc.
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Political correctness. Or as it used to be called, "not being an obnoxious Kitson."
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the text was sent to a freind it wasnt sent to any newspaper to be printed,and what dave whelan said was classed as anti=seminism by a west ham owner,its a sad day for this country if you cant make an oppinion known without being classed as a raciast,should we stop playing cricket against the australian gentelmen for refering to us as poms
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I would say that Whelan is on dodgy ground if he did say that Jews were money chasers. It's quite simple really, by branding everyone the same just because they share another commonality is stupid and simplistic, and history has also shown that it's bloody dangerous.
You've also got to call Whelan for having a go at anyone for chasing cash, he's spent his life doing it. And just because he's outspoken doesn't make him a hero, just shows him up more often than not. Furthermore, it doesn't help me as a foreigner in the south to be associated with him as a 'typical' northerner
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Pointing out not many white faces in a 100m final would be factually correct but make you a racist. Pointing out not many black faces in the boardroom would also be factually correct and guarantee you a job for life with the bbc.
One of those is purely on talent the other may not be.
Lets face it, football is corrupt at every level imaginable and you either accept it or you don't.
Recent cases says there is fight but also people willing to accept anything.
How many gaffs have to happen for morals to be forced into the game to bring it inline with the rest of the working world
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Pointing out not many white faces in a 100m final would be factually correct but make you a racist.
eer, no it wouldn't. The fastest men in the world over short distances are now nearly all black. I think it is generally accepted to be a genetic thing traced back to a group of people somewhere is West Africa - not all black people are universally fast.
What you seem to be getting mixed up about is the difference between a physically determined characteristic (skin colour, size of noses, hair colour or whatever the case may be) and a character trait imposed broadly (and unfairly) upon a group of people (who by genetic luck basically share those same physical characteristics). We're dealing with the latter here not the former.
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NNR
Aye, the BBC. Drowning in black and Asian folk, every time I turn on my TV.
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There's a bleeding obvious issue here, but the folk who complain about "political correctness" never, ever seem to get it.
It's all about intent. If you find a negative aspect that applies to SOME members of a group, and use that as a perjorative insult to ALL members of that group, and you do it nastily and vindictively, you ARE a racist. If you do it jokingly, but knowing that this action reinforces other people's stereotypes, you ARE a racist.
I used to play in a cricket team with a Pakistani and an Australian. They would often call each other "Paki b*****d" and "Aussie Kitson", then throw their arms round each other's shoulders and go and have a pint. They weren't racists.
It's that f***ing simple.
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the problem here is dave whelan as appointed a man who in his opinion is the right man for the job,as he did the last twice with a spaniard,and a german,thro in a scot inbetween.malky mackay had every right to be pist off with his last employer the way he was treat.he didnt make a public statement about it but the cardiff chairman certainly did
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Acko, Whelan said that about Jewish agents in an interview with a reporter from the Guardian, who ws then interviewed on 5Live. When 5Live then asked David Gold what he thought about Whelan's comments he said he was 'uncomfortable with them'. He didnt accuse him of anything - and to say he did is untruthful.
Interesting that you think Malky Mackay has 'every right to be pissed off the way he was treat'. I think if I was working for an Asian gentleman and referred to him as 'that chink', of all the things I would expect to recieve it wouldn't be a pay rise.
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Great appointment , who wouldn't like him managing their club. Whelan certainlyhas a good eye for managers..
Political correctness brigade won't bother him in the slightest.
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The law possibly will
And it might bother those people who stray into their'real world' (1970s) viewpoints in print on this forum
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the comments i made by mr gold was what the bbc news reported,snd malky referred to a player signed not by him but by the owner hiself not the owner was not called a name,but answer me this wilts rover why cant an owner of a club employ the man he wants,he has not committed a criminal offence,and to add,black man,woman,and a self confessed gay along with white englishman all with the same qualifications go for a job,black man doesnt get it claims raciasim,women doesnt get it,claims sexism,gay doesnt get it claims homophobiasm white englishment doesnt get it TOUGH,company better off making post redundant
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Acko quite simply whilst you probably have raised some good points in your post ; you have made it close to an impossibility to wade through it.
Please read it back to yourself before pressing the 'send' button as I can decipher your shorter posts.
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appologise hoolahoop the point i am trying to make is it now appears white englishmen have no defence for there actions,the real racist in this country are the so called ethnic minoritys themselfs
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appologise hoolahoop the point i am trying to make is it now appears white englishmen have no defence for there actions,the real racist in this country are the so called ethnic minoritys themselfs
It's alright acko but I know you bring up some interesting points for discussion.
I think you will find though that the ethnic minorities usually feel embarrassed by attacks on "English" things. Those attacks on all things English are usually carried out by white liberals and daft councils/government dictats etc. Many of our ethnic minorities feel more "English/British" than the majority of our white people. They're not offended by the flying of our flag or our festivals rather many embrace them. Many of our Muslim, Sikh, Hindu, Jewish etc. communities celebrate Christmas as an extra holiday and opportunity to have a good time.
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probably my wording was wrong hoola,but its people like jason roberts who virtually demands that black players should get managers jobs,kick racism out people what jump on every band wagon they can,i think its widely excepted we have more black players earning good living out of our game then any other country in europe and they are well supported by people,all the top managers jobs go to people not english,who would have thought that 60 years ago we would be cheering the germans playing here (trautman)excepted it takes time and things are changing fast but its not quick enough for some
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when mackay made those private comments the only person he seemed to upset was the cardiff f,c, owner.i ask you how many people did that man upset when he decided to change the clubs history and declare the bluebirds are now red,
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I heard Whelan on the radio this morning apologising for his comments, he even said that some of his best friends were Jews (or words to that effect)
Now I know that acko and friends feel that they're white male status now puts them in a threatened and persecuted minority but you must appreciate how crass a defence/apology that is from Whelan
I guess we can butt heads over your interpretation of modern life and attitudes towards race but it seems pointless as we won't be altering our personal viewpoints, and that's fine. But please don't defend Whelan. He's wrong, he knows it and now he's cacking himself that he'll lose more sponsorship and Wigan will sink into oblivion.
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i am sorry southwest i just dont see what mackay as done so wrong that he deserves to be persecuted in such a way,and to say whelan is not a fit and proper person to run a football club goes far too far hes put millions into wigan and ive little doubt that not just the football club but is buisness itself as employed people from all races.it just makes you wonder which way football as we no it is going it seems to me that sponsers,patrons ect are just holding clubs to ransom anything they dont agree with the its dummy out
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raciast was heher befor kick it out so it be
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acko - the point is that if people do hold views as expressed by Mackay and Whelan then they are out of touch with the modern world. In a position where they affect people's lives by making decisions on employment then that is far from ideal, in a position where they have access to the media to express those views, that is also not ideal, and somewhat stupid.
However, I'm not saying that they should be hung, more that they need to change their ways, change their views and express as much in the media.
Football is close to being broken at the moment. This helps not.
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both whelan and mackay have made public appologys,mackay is also on a racist aware course i dont know what else they can do
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It's only words, and words are all they have..
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maybe we should do an isis kill all non muslims now thats what i call racisiam
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you continue to polarise yourself by making such statements
why do you feel so victimised?
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i dont feel victormised southwest i ccertainly feel mackay and whelan are being,i could argue with you for ever on this point but you have your view and i repect that i have mine weather you respect that or not is of no concern to me but i will say the support they are both getting by people in football says that people like yourself are asking too much in persecuting these two.enjoyed the chat
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I'm not calling for their persecution but to hold them up in the media as having made mistakes is very useful. If they can change their ways and become better people then get on with it. The point is that they have responsibility as do all in public life to project opinions which are reasonable, they haven't recently and their future actions will be deservedly scrutinised.
You haven't said anything about your previous post which inferred that you supported Whelan's views
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i didnt say i agreed with whelans comments,but i dont see why anybody should take exemption to his choice to run his club,and i think the comment you refer to is the one regarding jews and money but as i said its something that as been said for years and a world famous jewish comedion makes fun of it hiself,and as far as i know the scots dont call for racist report when classed as being tight its been said for years.and remember a well loved former black rovers player made a good living making fun of hisself,and i havent read anywhere were the owner and former manager of gillingham were kicked out of football for the dealing with mcgammon and they were found guilty and ordered to pay compensation
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Let's not ignore the fact, but of course we will, that Whelan comes from an age group where in the past it was common place to call people from Pakistan, Israel, China, Africa, West Indies etc by what are now deemed derogatory terms. He grew up in a time to witness the influx of ethnic society into Britan. Does it make it right in todays PC conscious society - probably not, but I defy anyone in their 70's or like me in their 60's to have used these same terms in the past when talking about different races and religions, I'll hold my hand up to say I have. Didn't someone in a book of fiction say something about casting the first stone?
Swearing is accepted now by the majority of people but in my youth if I was caught using bloody or other common place swear words it was a clip around the earhole never mind the F word or the C word and as for swearing in front of women well that was never accepted now I hear language from girls/women young children even that you wouldn't hear on the factory floor but no-one bats an eyelid.
As for our media what they say in their papers and TV programmes would probably bear no resemblance to their private thoughts and conversations they jump on the band wagon and bang the drum about sexism and racism but how many of these people and the public at large are guilty of such "heinous crimes" in private.
I think it's time people got a grip JMHO
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Isn't having to treat people of a different race with more political correctness than you show to people of your own race a form of racism in itself?
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Isn't treating people from different cultures and races as individuals, rather than using tired and lazy stereotypes to insult them all a sign of a civilised and intelligent approach.
I've said before on here that I have had the honour of working with people from China, Syria, Palestine, Iran and Iraq. These were some of the most intelligent, caring, thoughtful and cultured people I have ever met.
I'm sure there are plenty of nasty, vindictive, greedy and ignorant bas**rds in those countries too. Which, on balance, would make their people very much like the English, Americans, Australians, Germans, French etc, etc, etc...
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Yes, but Isn't having to treat people of a different race with more political correctness than you show to people of your own race a form of racism in itself?
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BB
In what way do you HAVE "to treat people of a different race with more political correctness than you show to people of your own race"?
Give us some examples?
Do you mean being expected not to call Jews "greedy"? Or being expected not to call blacks "lazy n**gers"?
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Isn't treating people from different cultures and races as individuals, rather than using tired and lazy stereotypes to insult them all a sign of a civilised and intelligent approach.
I've said before on here that I have had the honour of working with people from China, Syria, Palestine, Iran and Iraq. These were some of the most intelligent, caring, thoughtful and cultured people I have ever met.
I'm sure there are plenty of nasty, vindictive, greedy and ignorant b*****ds in those countries too. Which, on balance, would make their people very much like the English, Americans, Australians, Germans, French etc, etc, etc...
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In what way do you HAVE "to treat people of a different race with more political correctness than you show to people of your own race"?
Give us some examples?
Do you mean being expected not to call Jews "greedy"? Or being expected not to call blacks "lazy niggers"?
Why have you chosen to ** the word bas*ards but not the other word in bold?!
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I think some people are getting a bit too precious on here. Like life in general, everybody is too busy looking after everyone else's welfare (whether they like it or not)
Politically correct? Do gooders? or interfering busy bodies. Take your pick.
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It's not about being being too precious. It's about not accepting (and reproducing) crass stereotypes and treating people equally. I do that until I have the time or opportunity to judge them as a person.
"You can't even say darky anymore, you have to treat them as people apparently. Back when they first got off the boat in the 60s everyone called them darky"
If standing up against this type of shite makes me a do-gooder, liberal, busy-body, pansy collector then so be it.
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It's not about being being too precious. It's about not accepting (and reproducing) crass stereotypes and treating people equally. I do that until I have the time or opportunity to judge them as a person.
"You can't even say darky anymore, you have to treat them as people apparently. Back when they first got off the boat in the 60s everyone called them darky"
If standing up against this type of shite makes me a do-gooder, liberal, busy-body, pansy collector then so be it.
Its not that many years ago we couldn't call people of Caribbean origin "black" we had to call them "coloured". Now the term "coloured" is wrong and we have to use the word "black" :facepalm:
I bet it was a white person that decided this too.
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It's this "us" and "them" mentality that you have adopted which is your downfall. What should WE call THEM. Who are THEY? There are no official guidelines telling you to call anyone anything. Surely you judge people as you take them? Then call them a two hat if you find them that way.
The reason debates over language like this happen at the BBC, in government etc. is because they have a certain mandate to try and improve an already unequal society. Therefore, with things like affirmative action or equality laws a constant battle over language will occur. And it will be constantly shifting - as what causes offense changes. But this shouldn't affect your daily interaction with people.
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It is not a WE or THEM. The problem is people like you picking up on the slightest little thing that YOU consider wrong.
WE is a generalisation. It wasn't used in a racial context as I am sure most people would agree. It is only the politically correct/interfering/do gooders that pick up on things such as this.
And that is what is wrong with society today.
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Wellred, please take this opportunity to leave society.
Treating people with respect, as individuals rather than collective groups is what matters
A similar thing has been highlighted in the press today where a Labour MP and front bencher tweeted a picture of a white van in front of a house with several England flags hanging up. The tweet was interpreted as snobbish and out of touch. She's now been sacked/resigned as a result.
And that's the point - making rash comments and assumptions based on stereotype is not acceptable in public life, and increasingly not in any walk of life. It's about decisions being made based upon intelligence and a society of equality and fairness, not the 'I'm alright Jack' attitude generated by the dead witch. And not the us and them attitude demonstrated throughout history but now increasingly challenged by society. Yes, those who choose to remain intellectually in the 1970s can whine and moan about the PC brigade, but sooner or later you'll realise that it's you who are out of touch and always have been wrong.
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Wellred, please take this opportunity to leave society.
Treating people with respect, as individuals rather than collective groups is what matters
A similar thing has been highlighted in the press today where a Labour MP and front bencher tweeted a picture of a white van in front of a house with several England flags hanging up. The tweet was interpreted as snobbish and out of touch. She's now been sacked/resigned as a result.
And that's the point - making rash comments and assumptions based on stereotype is not acceptable in public life, and increasingly not in any walk of life. It's about decisions being made based upon intelligence and a society of equality and fairness, not the 'I'm alright Jack' attitude generated by the dead witch. And not the us and them attitude demonstrated throughout history but now increasingly challenged by society. Yes, those who choose to remain intellectually in the 1970s can whine and moan about the PC brigade, but sooner or later you'll realise that it's you who are out of touch and always have been wrong.
So where exactly have I been disrespectful? Rash comments and assumptions?
Sorry but your post demonstrates my point.
I will decide for myself thanks as to what is correct and what is over the top. I certainly don't need you to do it for me.
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everybody missing the point here malky mackay made a private text to someone he trusted,nobody elses buisness,dave whelan in sticking up for aman he as employed made a statement weve all said or thought and now do gooders never done or said anything wrong want to persecute them,its these so called people what are causing racism thereselfs.
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RJ
Reel your neck in and apply your brain. I didn't asterisk anything. There is a filter on here which chooses what it wants to put asterisks in. It's clearly not very politically correct.
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BB
In what way do you HAVE "to treat people of a different race with more political correctness than you show to people of your own race"?
Give us some examples?
Do you mean being expected not to call Jews "greedy"? Or being expected not to call blacks "lazy n**gers"?
BST
At work the other day we were talking about Craig Charles having to leave the jungle. I said that it was a pity and that I thought he was a dark horse. Luckily when I realised what I'd said and how it could have been misconstrued had there been a member of the PC brigade there, there wasn't.
Thinking about it, I don't recall ever meeting a member of the PC brigade in the flesh, and everyone I have spoken to about it has a similar opinion to me.
There are a few greedy buggers at work, and there are a few lazy ones too. All of them are spoke of as such, and know peoples opinions of them. It would be taboo to speak of such if they were of a different race though.
It would clearly not be very politically correct.
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There are a few greedy buggers at work, and there are a few lazy ones too. All of them are spoke of as such, and know peoples opinions of them. It would be taboo to speak of such if they were of a different race though.
I'm afraid you might have a some sort of paranoia complex where you think liberal do-gooders are protecting black people from being called lazy. Where have you picked this up from? It certainly doesn't exist in reality.
made a statement weve all said or thought
Can safely say I've never achieved the triple crown that Mackay did whether in private or public.
And that is what is wrong with society today.
Aye, equality has always been society's biggest problem. Never mind terrorism, sexual assault, inequality, environmental destruction, it's those bloody do-gooders terrorising the streets with all their respect each other nonsense.
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There are a few greedy buggers at work, and there are a few lazy ones too. All of them are spoke of as such, and know peoples opinions of them. It would be taboo to speak of such if they were of a different race though.
I'm afraid you might have a some sort of paranoia complex where you think liberal do-gooders are protecting black people from being called lazy. Where have you picked this up from? It certainly doesn't exist in reality.
made a statement weve all said or thought
Can safely say I've never achieved the triple crown that Mackay did whether in private or public.
And that is what is wrong with society today.
Aye, equality has always been society's biggest problem. Never mind terrorism, sexual assault, inequality, environmental destruction, it's those bloody do-gooders terrorising the streets with all their respect each other nonsense.
How pathetic. Taking bits of paragraphs to suit your purpose. You really are struggling if that's how you respond.
To use your way of answering Never mind terrorism You approve of that then do you?
Easy to distort a point isn't it?
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Well red, as ever you pick up on a general point and dismiss it because it doesn't directly apply to your post. Thereby, side stepping the issue :zzz:
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if youve never seen a bird when out with the mates and said between you anything that be conscrued as sexist,or called for a chinky on the way home,youre either too young or led a very sheltered life copps are cant recall the third part
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You are not a real person are you?
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yes i am and led a full life made a lot of mistakes on the way but never blamed anybody but myself and if i had my time again i would probably make the same mistakes again and enjoy doing it,and some of my best freinds are black and a former buisness partners was indian great person
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f**king nora
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f***ing nora
Ha ha hilarious. So totally pc and yet doesn't mind being sexist.
Nora??? hmmmm
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Nora is a euphemism for Ada which itself is a euphemism for arseholes
If you're unsure what that is then I suggest you look at the nearest reflective surface
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no southwest cant recollect a nora but there still time left cant remember an ada neither must be slipping
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Ah but that just shows you how something can be taken in a different context doesn't it.
Nora being a woman's name people could take you for being a sexist pig.
:woohoo: :woohoo:
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BB
I worry about you.
a) You've just said that you've never met anyone from this fabled PC brigade. Do you think that might just be because, other than the odd gobshite who gets in the news, they don't exist?
b) Have you ever heard of someone who has called a lazy black person, "lazy" without attributing the laziness to his colour or ethnicity, and been called racist for it?
Straw men, right along the way.
I have employed people of several different ethnicities. One particular lad, from Manchester but of Nigerian extraction, turned out to be f**king useless and we sacked him. Nothing to do with his skin colour. The fact that he was black never once came into my head when we were taking the decision to sack him. He didn't accuse us of racism for sacking him. I suspect that you have never had first hand experience of anything counter to that.
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Ah but that just shows you how something can be taken in a different context doesn't it.
Nora being a woman's name people could take you for being a sexist pig.
:woohoo: :woohoo:
Well, you can't educate pork
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Ah but that just shows you how something can be taken in a different context doesn't it.
Nora being a woman's name people could take you for being a sexist pig.
:woohoo: :woohoo:
Well, you can't educate pork
Keep the insults coming. I have got broad shoulders. Always a good sign when someone is losing the argument.
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dont give up hope southwest i am sure someone out there will keep trying with you
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Ah but that just shows you how something can be taken in a different context doesn't it.
Nora being a woman's name people could take you for being a sexist pig.
:woohoo: :woohoo:
Well, you can't educate pork
Pigs are perhaps the smartest, cleanest domestic animals known - more so than cats and dogs, according to some experts.
Wrong again eh. Keep trying.
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Wellred, acko
In this forum we aim to express our opinions about the beautiful game and people, quite rightly have different points of view on what's happened and what needs to happen but occasionally bigger issues are raised such as right now. I think we (meaning you two and myself) should avoid any debate here as it soon descends to playground level.
Please excuse my exclamations of disbelief in relation to your points of view regarding racism.
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vincent tan latest stupid outburst shows what kind of man he is to state people as racist without any proper proof or without a court case to prove that is totally uncalled for.for a man who upset thousands of cardiff people with a change of their history shows what a pig headed arsehole he is,and correction the whole world is not watching they dont care less.if he dosnt like it go home because he certainly doesnt care what happens in this country
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BB
I worry about you.
a) You've just said that you've never met anyone from this fabled PC brigade. Do you think that might just be because, other than the odd gobshite who gets in the news, they don't exist?
b) Have you ever heard of someone who has called a lazy black person, "lazy" without attributing the laziness to his colour or ethnicity, and been called racist for it?
Straw men, right along the way.
I have employed people of several different ethnicities. One particular lad, from Manchester but of Nigerian extraction, turned out to be f***ing useless and we sacked him. Nothing to do with his skin colour. The fact that he was black never once came into my head when we were taking the decision to sack him. He didn't accuse us of racism for sacking him. I suspect that you have never had first hand experience of anything counter to that.
BST
I spent 10 minutes constructing a post regarding exactly that, and then lost it. In a way I'm glad because I said too much in the heat of the moment.
I'm not going into detail this time because I want to protect myself and others, but I do have first hand experience of the use of the 'race card' at work, and the management seem terrified.
I'm not prepared to say any more on this so no doubt you will ridicule it but I know it is true, and I know it does exist.
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to southwest i said this at two this afternoon but its you what continued and added insults,i respect your views please repect mine
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BB
Make your mind up. You said you've never met anyone from the PC brigade. Now you're saying that management were terrified about the race issue. Who were they terrified of?
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vincent tan latest stupid outburst shows what kind of man he is to state people as racist without any proper proof or without a court case to prove that is totally uncalled for.for a man who upset thousands of cardiff people with a change of their history shows what a pig headed arsehole he is,and correction the whole world is not watching they dont care less.if he dosnt like it go home because he certainly doesnt care what happens in this country
Maybe he knows Mackay better than most?
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maybe just a prick my opinion you got yours. end of
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BST
The management are not supporters of the PC brigade, but they have to take accusations seriously even when they are confident they are not true.
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BB
So they took the accusations seriously, investigated them, and...?
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.....asked the accused to (go through the motions and) apologise - he refused, claiming his innocence.
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BST
I always answer your questions, when are you going to answer one of mine?
Yes of no will suffice.
Isn't having to treat people of a different race with more political correctness than you show to people of your own race a form of racism in itself?
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It's only words, and words are all they have..
99% woosh there Stu but did they take any hearts away....
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It's only words, and words are all they have..
99% woosh there Stu but did they take any hearts away....
Eh?
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It's only words, and words are all they have..
99% woosh there Stu but did they take any hearts away....
Eh?
Take no notice mate, your post was two lines from a pop song - and I added the third thinking you knew it.
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It's only words, and words are all they have..
99% woosh there Stu but did they take any hearts away....
Eh?
Take no notice mate, your post was two lines from a pop song - and I added the third thinking you knew it.
That's absolutely fine mate. Have a pleasant evening.
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BB
I genuinely cannot answer your question because I have got a clue what you are asking.
Who says you "have to" do these things? And what do you mean by treating "people of a different race with more political correctness than you show to people of your own race".
Do you mean that society expects you to treat other people with respect, and if you don't know what their sensibilities are, it's more respectful to err more on the side of caution than you would with people with whom you feel more comfortable? Is that what you mean?
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As I feel comfortable with you BST, am I ok to call you a complete spunk trumpet?
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SS (how apt). Of course you can flower. I say "flower". I mean "dick splash".
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SS (how apt). Of course you can flower. I say "flower". I mean "dick splash".
Thanks man. I knew you were on my wavelength.
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wood you have Malky Mackay as manger
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wood you?
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yes
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SC
I agree. People have the right to be racist in the comfort of their own home. Just like people have the right to smoke in front of kids or beat their wives at home. It's not like they are doing it in public.
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It's only words, and words are all they have..
99% woosh there Stu but did they take any hearts away....
Eh?
Take no notice mate, your post was two lines from a pop song - and I added the third thinking you knew it.
That's absolutely fine mate. Have a pleasant evening.
Whoosh...........lol
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if youve never seen a bird when out with the mates and said between you anything that be conscrued as sexist,or called for a chinky on the way home,youre either too young or led a very sheltered life copps are cant recall the third part
Did you pull a chunky bird when you were younger and more coherent?