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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: IC1967 on January 08, 2015, 11:55:18 am
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They are on very dodgy ground here.
During the election campaign I'll be exposing their lies so gullible fools don't end up voting for them because they think they are the best party to look after the NHS. They slag the Tories off for England's A and E record but fail to mention it is a lot worse in Labour controlled Wales.
They claim that UKIP want to charge people for the NHS. They claim UKIP want you to be charged for GP visits. They claim the Tories want to privatise it.
Well here's a short video which shows that UKIP want to keep it free at the point of use and it is some members of Labour that want to introduce charges. Labour also got the privatisation band wagon rolling with their reckless use of PFI.
http://order-order.com/2014/11/17/watch-ukip-hit-back-at-labour-nhs-attack/
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What's your U pinion on this Mick (or anyone)...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/selling-nhs-profit-full-list-4646154
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To quote a few lines from a Talking Heads song
"Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was "
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Agreed, labour are on very dodgy ground.
However I lost all respect for them after the bliar and brown regimes.
Labour represent the lazy and ambitionless underbelly of British society.
I wouldn't trust them to run a bath.
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What's your U pinion on this Mick (or anyone)...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/selling-nhs-profit-full-list-4646154
It seems to me the Mirror is trying to make out that the Tories want to privatise the NHS so that they and their friends can make money out of it. What a load of leftie drivel. I'm not keen on private companies lobbying MPs and 'bribing' them. However I prefer that to the taxpayer paying out to fund political parties.
Let's not forget the unions 'bribe' Labour MPs to do their bidding as well. I don't like it but it's better than more taxpayer money being wasted by politicians.
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Lets not forget Maggie started half this shit flogging British Gas tell Sid if you remember ;)
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Lets not forget Maggie started half this shit flogging British Gas tell Sid if you remember ;)
Let's get one thing straight. Politicians should be kept out of business as much as possible. Good on Maggie for setting the privatisation ball rolling. It's not perfect but it's far better than politicians running businesses.
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But it belonged to us so why didn't everybody get a share without having to buy one ;)
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But it belonged to us so why didn't everybody get a share without having to buy one ;)
Because people like me wouldn't have made as much money. It's not right that people who spend every penny they get should be given free shares. Shares should only be given to people that have saved up so that they can take advantage of situations like this.
Shareholders need to be responsible. Savers are much more likely to be responsible than people that spend every penny they get without a thought for what tomorrow might bring.
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Anyone else think Labour have a made a bit of a mess jumping on the NHS? Figures today show that the labour controlled Welsh NHS has worse A&E figures than England where the Tories control - bit of an own goal there I think.
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Anyone else think Labour have a made a bit of a mess jumping on the NHS? Figures today show that the labour controlled Welsh NHS has worse A&E figures than England where the Tories control - bit of an own goal there I think.
I certainly do.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-30847730
Have they also forgotten about Mid Staffordshire NHS Foundation Trust?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stafford_Hospital_scandal
Back to 'weaponising' the NHS. Is it any wonder people have lost faith in politicians when liar Milliband refused to answer the question several times about whether he used the word. What a plonker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQpj7HgTKYY
Watching him wriggle makes you want to pull your hair out.
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Looks like Labour are making a big mistake pinning their hopes on winning the general election by weaponising the NHS.
Public satisfaction with the NHS has "risen significantly", according to analysis of the influential British Social Attitudes survey.
Of nearly 2,000 people surveyed, 65% were "very" or "quite" satisfied with the NHS.
It is the second highest recorded level, and outright "dissatisfaction" is at an all-time low of 15%.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-31018004
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It had plummeted from 70% in 2010 as the article said, which is when this government came to power. Talk about seeing the headline, but not the whole article.
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Mick
You know what you're doing.
I know what you're doing.
Hounslow knows what you're doing.
Why do it Mick? It only serves to make a fool of you.
If you think it's funny, it's not.
If you think it's annoying, it is, but only because it's so irredeemably stupid.
If you think you can deceive, you can't.
If you don't realise what you're doing, you need professional help.
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Mick
You know what you're doing.
I know what you're doing.
Hounslow knows what you're doing.
Why do it Mick? It only serves to make a fool of you.
If you think it's funny, it's not.
If you think it's annoying, it is, but only because it's so irredeemably stupid.
If you think you can deceive, you can't.
If you don't realise what you're doing, you need professional help.
You've lost me. All I was doing is providing some evidence that things are nowhere near as bad as Labour are trying to make out with the NHS. I'm sure many people seeing the results of the survey would be shocked to see how well it is actually doing under the evil, cost cutting Tories.
Labour are only interested in trying to make political capital out of the NHS. They think it will win the general election for them if they can con enough people. What they don't realise is that we are not all stupid. The same can't be said for the Labour Party.
Why on earth bang on about the NHS when they are clearly failing very badly in Wales? Satisfaction is rising rapidly in the rest of the UK after the initial Tory changes in the early years where it fell. Dissatisfaction is at record lows. The public know they are weaponising it just like Labour always do come election time. It is shameful deceit and I will continue to expose it.
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Tha official Kings Fund analysis of the report is here: http://www.kingsfund.org.uk/projects/bsa-survey-2014
It makes interesting reading as to what and who is driving the increase in 'satisfaction'
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Labour's NHS strategy is unraveling before our eyes. Even senior Labour figures think red Ed has got it wrong.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2930752/Labour-big-beasts-savage-Ed-Milburn-Hutton-accuse-Miliband-betraying-Blair-legacy-Prescott-hits-branding-Tory-collaborators.html