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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: Colin C No.3 on March 18, 2015, 10:59:09 am
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Last night 'a chant' came from the 'kids' who frequent the far end of the West Stand nearest the away support, "Jeremy Clarkson, he's one of our own..."!
1. About 10-12 years ago, Clarkson did a piece on TV on our club. He was filmed standing amongst 'The Chanter's' on The Popside with him doing a 'voice over' ridiculing the support, the ground, the club, the game. To that set of fans last night I'd say, there could well have been some of your dads or elder brothers in that group on The Popside Clarkson 'hid amongst' grinning & rolling his eyes.
2. He's a great admirer of Maggie Thatcher. The same Thatcher who accelerated the demise of Britain's manufacturing heritage, forcing closer of pit's, many in Clarkson's 'hometown', causing 'the death' of villages & whole communities. Not that that would touch the conscience of Clarkson who's family saved up from the day he was born in order to send him to a private school, one from which he duly got expelled from for "Smoking, abusing staff, general larking about & enjoying myself"....git.
3. He obviously thinks he's 'untouchable', yes , much in the Jimmy Saville mould. Life continues to be one 'long lark' for this sorry piece of sh**e, so please don't fall into the trap & think he's one of the great outspoken hero's against the establishment he's not, he's an arrogant, ignorant, self promoting, shallow t**t. He is not & never will be "One of our own".
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I take it your not too keen then colin,
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He's a bell-end. The video he did was condescending but at least Bill Workman (Saturday Santa) got a look in. I'd guess the video was more like 15 years ago?
Which is nice.
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Clarkson is one of our own, he's from Doncaster. He's also quite proud of his heritage.
That piece he did on the rovers for the telly, isn't that bad. He said we were shit, and we were. So what?
As for thatcher, so what if he admires her. I do, alot of people do! She was a very strong leader both on the domestic and international stage.
So grow up my socialist friend, embrace capitalism and accept JC as ONE OF OUR OWN !!!!
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I wouldn't take anything those imbeciles say to heart.
Some of the stuff they come out with is bewildering. Arseholes of the highest order
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I wouldn't take anything those imbeciles say to heart.
Some of the stuff they come out with is bewildering. Arseholes of the highest order
And you're not trying to stir up anything at all are you RJ?
BTW Boomstick is a WUM and I claim my £5
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I sit in that area of the ground so i feel i'm a good judge. They're arseholes
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More pits closed under labour than they did thatcher. Do your research
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RJ-They are a set of young lads enjoying a social occasion. Chill out you miserable t**t :headbang:
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More pits closed under labour than they did thatcher. Do your research
Most of those were exhausted Collieries between 1964 and 1970, resulting in 43% mining jobs lost, under the conservatives Collieries with many years of coal left were closed, resulting in 80% mining jobs lost
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More pits closed under labour than they did thatcher. Do your research
Most of those were exhausted Collieries between 1964 and 1970, resulting in 43% mining jobs lost, under the conservatives Collieries with many years of coal left were closed, resulting in 80% mining jobs lost
I am not arguing with that, but what i am saying it more pits closed under labour than those under thatcher. People go on about her closing all the pits when she didn't. Goes to show what little people really know. Yes more % lost their jobs but more pits were closed by Wilson.
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Closing the pits was just one of Thatcher's good works though. For better or worse, she decimated the UK's manufacturing sector and with it the communities around them. And sold the country to the highest bidders. The collapse of unity is still felt.
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She also began the process of selling off national institutions, organisations and services. So now we have German owned water companies supplying us, French owned power companies and sodding Yankee providers of railways, prisons and immigration control. If it wasn't true it'd be laughable. Oh. And now her progeny want us to open the doors to US companies having the power to sue our government if and when things don't go the way the Yankee companies like. You couldn't make it up.
BobG
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All ex leaders of this country have made mistakes,yes thatcher did tony Blair took us 2 war under false information,Gordon brown spent to much money
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He supports Chelsea (well goes to watch them anyway). Whi h would also make any Donny White and Donny Owl etc, 'one of our own'. Thanks for nothing lads.
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That video he did at the Rovers game was bloody brilliant i thought. As for Clarkson, a hero amongst men in my book. Funny funny guy. Bring back Jezza i say
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That video he did at the Rovers game was bloody brilliant i thought. As for Clarkson, a hero amongst men in my book. Funny funny guy. Bring back Jezza i say
Really? A hero? My god! Heroes are people who get shot at sticking up for our freedom, people who act unselfishly to achieve almost the impossible on behalf of other people. To call a xenophobic, homophobic, selfish, sexist, egotistical bully a hero really p*sses me off! He might sometimes be a little bit entertaining (matter of opinion) but FFS a hero? Give me f*ck*ng strength!
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Clarkson is a personality, some like him and some don't.
However to judge him on his political beliefs of Lady Thatcher is a bit stupid considering she was polled the most popular prime minister in this country since records began. She was also polled the least popular in her first couple of years as well, which only strengthens the point of how judging someone on their views of Lady Thatcher is a poor judge of character indeed.
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I suspect we have just witnessed a generational difference in the use of language..... Like everything else, modern usage dumbs down to the lowest common denominator.
BobG
PS Mr1Croft: where did you obtain the stats that led you to the point you've just made? I'd like to take a look because I had thought that she polairsed opinion. To some, she certainly was the most loved PM of all time, but to a lot of others she was the most hated too. So I'd like to see the data. Thanks :)
BobG
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That video he did at the Rovers game was bloody brilliant i thought. As for Clarkson, a hero amongst men in my book. Funny funny guy. Bring back Jezza i say
Really? A hero? My god! Heroes are people who get shot at sticking up for our freedom, people who act unselfishly to achieve almost the impossible on behalf of other people. To call a xenophobic, homophobic, selfish, sexist, egotistical bully a hero really p*sses me off! He might sometimes be a little bit entertaining (matter of opinion) but FFS a hero? Give me f*ck*ng strength!
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Sorry 'LincsRover' but Clarkson is funny and if you don't appreciate a funny bloke then thats your issue. And yes hero is the right word for Jeremy, I actually think he should be given a knighthood but i doubt you'll agree with that opinion.
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He's not a hero Move. Look the word up in a dictionary. Check what it means.
BobG
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Sorry for having an opinion 'BobG'.
hero definition; a person, typically a man, who is admired for their courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities.
Showed courage to carry the show on in Argentina when the Top Gear team was attacked and in terms of achievements look at Top Gears viewing figures.
Jeremy Clarkson, a true hero.
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I'd also argue the money and career he's carved out for himself is an outstanding achievement.
Sorry Bob, think you've lost this one.
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If that's the level of "courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities" that you see as being neccessary to be called a hero, then I'd like to nominate myself as a hero too. Like I said: the lowest common denominator rules these days. Pathetic.
BobG
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Sorry 'BobG' but as BoomBoom says. Theres no denying Jeremy's hero status.
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I suspect we have just witnessed a generational difference in the use of language..... Like everything else, modern usage dumbs down to the lowest common denominator.
BobG
PS Mr1Croft: where did you obtain the stats that led you to the point you've just made? I'd like to take a look because I had thought that she polairsed opinion. To some, she certainly was the most loved PM of all time, but to a lot of others she was the most hated too. So I'd like to see the data. Thanks :)
BobG
I read it in Andrew Marr's History of Modern Britain, I'm sure he references the sources as I think the figures are from 81 (low point) and around 86 (high point). If I get time later I'll try and see what they are.
However a quick google search does show polls of modern prime-ministers with her ranked the highest in almost every one. A quick example from 2011: http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/document/3r78qrqfex/Sunday%20Times%20Results%20111118%20VI%20and%20Trackers%20TC.pdf (http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/document/3r78qrqfex/Sunday%20Times%20Results%20111118%20VI%20and%20Trackers%20TC.pdf)
Getting back on topic for a second - I don't think Clarkson has achieved 'hero' status, if anything this is a prime example of how much high profile stars are worshipped and thought of as more important than the common man. He lives a lifestyle the majority of us can only dream of yet his greatest achievement is a column in The Sun. He's funny and I don't think I'd enjoy Top Gear without him, but a hero? Surely not.
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I used to knock about with Jeremy in the late 70s he lived at Burghwallis with his parents and worked for the Rotherham advertiser. Reason I knew him was he was in the same car club as me the Cortina 1600 E owners club and attended meets at what was Dario's on the A19
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Ten years ago, almost to the day, the MG Rover car factory closed in Longbridge , Birmingham with the immediate loss of over 6,000 jobs.
Our Jeremy's programme started that week with a ROVER badge changed to OVER. So, lives wrecked, a community devastated and a cheap joke for a juvenile audience. I have lived in this area for thirty years and that was the only occasion i have felt ashamed of my Doncaster roots.
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Unbelievable! I hate all this hero worship of celebrity's! I'm afraid I'm not going to try to change the opinions of those who believe this. With arguments like "you've lost this one", "no denying his hero status" and a knighthood, I'm afraid it's too far gone!!! It's a good job Adolf hitler isn't around now - I'm sure TLO clarkson, Katie Price (or whatever she is called this week) et al would save us from the perils of naziism!
F*ck me, I'm turning into my dad!!!! And be warned - you'll be next and realise what b*ll*x you are spouting!!!!
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'Hero' is a word easy to come by on a football forum. It should only be used only in the context it was meant, for instance James Hayter was a true hero at Wembley against L**ds.
By the way, last nights result was a tragedy.
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Sorry for having an opinion 'BobG'.
hero definition; a person, typically a man, who is admired for their courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities.
Showed courage to carry the show on in Argentina when the Top Gear team was attacked and in terms of achievements look at Top Gears viewing figures.
Jeremy Clarkson, a true hero.
Courage in Argentina? he crapped himself.
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I'd rather watch a programme about cars than old farts w**king off over 500hp plastic pigs. Clarkson's had his day and has nothing much left to offer other than self driven publicity stunts like his latest one, he's just Katie Hopkins but better looking
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My best mate fought at goose green - what would I give for our dear friend Jeremy to have been there facing a few really pissed off "argies". I'm sure his heroism would have been exemplary!!
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The German's and French are cloning the series but can't find anyone heroic enough to lead the other two little boys who will have to be very very brave .
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The German's and French are cloning the series but can't find anyone heroic enough to lead the other two little boys who will have to be very very brave .
......And warriors, both of course.....
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So the consensus, Mr Move, is that Jeremy is not now and never has been, a hero.
BobG
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I've worked on lots of TV programmes and not remotely ever have I come across anyone as self righteous and self promoting and plain self centred as what Clarkson is.
A hero?! A hard days filming (you should see how pandered the "stars" are when filming) and he has a hissy fit over not having a slab of hot cow over the very good food he was offered. And then gets a handbag out and knocks around someone smaller than him who can't react or he knows he'll never work again. The worst of it, and confirmatory dick not hero action, is not acknowledging he screwed up and was a dick. The same people who rate him appear to rate Thatcher too - interesting that.
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Of course Jeremy is a hero. He is Doncaster's finest son.
Why is he a hero? It takes a lot of guts these days to stand up against the politically correct lobby. How many people out there who are big stars are not politically correct? There's not many.
Jeremy should be knighted for his bravery.
I've yet to find any evidence where he has slagged off Doncaster. None is ever produced. If you ask me, it is all leftie hearsay.
I bet anything he has said about Doncaster is either true or tongue in cheek.
What about that Robin Reliant sketch he did on Top Gear? That was hilarious and he did not slag off South Yorkshire.
I think it all boils down to whether you've got a sense of humour or not. Those that don't like Jeremy need to get a grip and lighten up for a change.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8
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I am finding this thread totally, totally bemusing!
I have looked in on Top Gear a few times over the years to try and understand the cult hero worship of the programme and its presenters. I still don't get it.
I'm not at all interested in cars so understand why the programme leaves me cold but Clarkson? Every time he opens his mouth I cringe. To me he is one of the most self obsessed, ignorant, loutish men on the planet. Funny? Not in the slightest.
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Watch the Robin Reliant video. If you do not find it amusing, then I'm afraid the only conclusion that can be arrived at is that you don't have a sense of humour.
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Of course Jeremy is a hero. He is Doncaster's finest son.
Why is he a hero? It takes a lot of guts these days to stand up against the politically correct lobby. How many people out there who are big stars are not politically correct? There's not many.
Jeremy should be knighted for his bravery.
I've yet to find any evidence where he has slagged off Doncaster. None is ever produced. If you ask me, it is all leftie hearsay.
I bet anything he has said about Doncaster is either true or tongue in cheek.
What about that Robin Reliant sketch he did on Top Gear? That was hilarious and he did not slag off South Yorkshire.
I think it all boils down to whether you've got a sense of humour or not. Those that don't like Jeremy need to get a grip and lighten up for a change.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8
Exactly. Some people are born miserable.
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Of course Jeremy is a hero. He is Doncaster's finest son.
Why is he a hero? It takes a lot of guts these days to stand up against the politically correct lobby. How many people out there who are big stars are not politically correct? There's not many.
Jeremy should be knighted for his bravery.
I've yet to find any evidence where he has slagged off Doncaster. None is ever produced. If you ask me, it is all leftie hearsay.
I bet anything he has said about Doncaster is either true or tongue in cheek.
What about that Robin Reliant sketch he did on Top Gear? That was hilarious and he did not slag off South Yorkshire.
I think it all boils down to whether you've got a sense of humour or not. Those that don't like Jeremy need to get a grip and lighten up for a change.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8
Spiders
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Of course Jeremy is a hero. He is Doncaster's finest son.
Why is he a hero? It takes a lot of guts these days to stand up against the politically correct lobby. How many people out there who are big stars are not politically correct? There's not many.
Jeremy should be knighted for his bravery.
I've yet to find any evidence where he has slagged off Doncaster. None is ever produced. If you ask me, it is all leftie hearsay.
I bet anything he has said about Doncaster is either true or tongue in cheek.
What about that Robin Reliant sketch he did on Top Gear? That was hilarious and he did not slag off South Yorkshire.
I think it all boils down to whether you've got a sense of humour or not. Those that don't like Jeremy need to get a grip and lighten up for a change.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8
I think ben parkinson may have the slight edge over him in the bravery stakes
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Clarkson's not a hero, he's a thug. Unless you think thugs are worthy of hero-worship, of course...
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Of course Jeremy is a hero. He is Doncaster's finest son.
Why is he a hero? It takes a lot of guts these days to stand up against the politically correct lobby. How many people out there who are big stars are not politically correct? There's not many.
Jeremy should be knighted for his bravery.
I've yet to find any evidence where he has slagged off Doncaster. None is ever produced. If you ask me, it is all leftie hearsay.
I bet anything he has said about Doncaster is either true or tongue in cheek.
What about that Robin Reliant sketch he did on Top Gear? That was hilarious and he did not slag off South Yorkshire.
I think it all boils down to whether you've got a sense of humour or not. Those that don't like Jeremy need to get a grip and lighten up for a change.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8
I think ben parkinson may have the slight edge over him in the bravery stakes
Fair comment.
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Watch the Robin Reliant video. If you do not find it amusing, then I'm afraid the only conclusion that can be arrived at is that you don't have a sense of humour.
I have actually got a great sense of humour. Perhaps Clarkson appeals more to you fellas. Though clearly not all!
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Crikey, all the sock puppets are out in force on this thread!
Clearly its time for bed. Night night, all.
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Most comedians hate Clarkson
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQIFjP_s_gg
I rewatched this recently after being under the belief for the last 15 years (or whatever) that he totally screwed us over. With hindsight there is self-depreciation there from the Rovers fans and Ryan (and 'Jezza' himself to some extent), but it's nowhere near as bad as I remember.
It's a testimony to how far we've come that they couldn't make a programme like that today, no-one would get it as our public perception has beer raised.
Also was that a young Howard Webb reffing?
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Just noticed the cheeky punch from Snods (5:35) with his back to the ref on their player, good old Ian...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQIFjP_s_gg
I rewatched this recently after being under the belief for the last 15 years (or whatever) that he totally screwed us over. With hindsight there is self-depreciation there from the Rovers fans and Ryan (and 'Jezza' himself to some extent), but it's nowhere near as bad as I remember.
It's a testimony to how far we've come that they couldn't make a programme like that today, no-one would get it as our public perception has beer raised.
Also was that a young Howard Webb reffing?
So that's why people hate Jeremy and think he slags off Doncaster. Unbelievable. There is nothing in that video to be offended at. It was merely a bit of satire and was very funny.
I'm seriously beginning to wonder what is wrong with the Jeremy haters on this forum. They obviously have a very thin skin and no sense of humour whatsoever.
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Did you think people we're serious about slagging off Clarkson Mick? It's you that has no sense of humour. You see, when people on here slag him off, call him names, call him a bully, say he's like Katie Hopkins and refer to him as a dinasaur, it's all satire! They are joking! You know, like he does.
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The worrying thing is that it's not only Jeremy Clarkson they hate, it's also the people who have the audacity to like him!
Their treatment of fellow Doncastrians in this respect is precisely one of their reasons for detesting Clarkson!
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Showed courage to carry the show on in Argentina when the Top Gear team was attacked and in terms of achievements look at Top Gears viewing figures.
From memory they didn't appear very heroic in that episode hiding in a hotel room like frightened children...
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Clarkson's not a hero, he's a thug. Unless you think thugs are worthy of hero-worship, of course...
Hahahaaha Clarkson a thug i can't speyk Raoul Moat is a thug not pissing Jeremy Clarkson
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Or should i say Moat was a thug. Forgot he deed.
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Did you think people we're serious about slagging off Clarkson Mick? It's you that has no sense of humour. You see, when people on here slag him off, call him names, call him a bully, say he's like Katie Hopkins and refer to him as a dinasaur, it's all satire! They are joking! You know, like he does.
Don't think I didn't miss that cheeky Stewart Lee homage there!
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Most comedians hate Clarkson
You know why don't you? It's because he is much funnier than most of them.
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Did you think people we're serious about slagging off Clarkson Mick? It's you that has no sense of humour. You see, when people on here slag him off, call him names, call him a bully, say he's like Katie Hopkins and refer to him as a dinasaur, it's all satire! They are joking! You know, like he does.
Look. It's very simple. Jeremy haters don't have a sense of humour. They are over touchy and take themselves far too seriously. They are people to be avoided at all costs on any social do. They are boring.
Sorted.
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Actually think that most people think he's a t**t but couldn't care less either, surely you're familiar with that Mr Itchy Colon?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQIFjP_s_gg
I rewatched this recently after being under the belief for the last 15 years (or whatever) that he totally screwed us over. With hindsight there is self-depreciation there from the Rovers fans and Ryan (and 'Jezza' himself to some extent), but it's nowhere near as bad as I remember.
It's a testimony to how far we've come that they couldn't make a programme like that today, no-one would get it as our public perception has beer raised.
Also was that a young Howard Webb reffing?
'Doncaster, it's not a bag of shite'
My problem with Clarkson is that he is not 'one of our own' as he can't even pronounce Doncaster properly
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Did you think people we're serious about slagging off Clarkson Mick? It's you that has no sense of humour. You see, when people on here slag him off, call him names, call him a bully, say he's like Katie Hopkins and refer to him as a dinasaur, it's all satire! They are joking! You know, like he does.
Don't think I didn't miss that cheeky Stewart Lee homage there!
Haha, I was just hunting through Youtube for that clip.
I don't think the programme was bad at all, in retrospect, but we were a very sensitive lot at the time having nearly lost our club to Richardson. I remember thinking that team of Shaun Goodwin, Tommy Wright, Mark Hume and Colin Sutherland were gods amongst men cos they were actually playing for the team again rather than trying to get them relegated. Again in retrospect, they were all a bit shite!