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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: donnyguy61 on April 09, 2015, 11:15:15 am
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http://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/doncaster-rovers/exclusive-john-ryan-confirms-doncaster-rovers-exit-1-7200332 (http://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/doncaster-rovers/exclusive-john-ryan-confirms-doncaster-rovers-exit-1-7200332)
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Thanks JR for your fantastic contribution in not only resurrecting the club, but taking us to a level of very high respectability. A period in the clubs history that will never be forgotten.
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Worst kept secret of the year.
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Thanks JR for your fantastic contribution in not only resurrecting the club, but taking us to a level of very high respectability. A period in the clubs history that will never be forgotten.
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So many great memories in that period - doubt very few clubs outside "the big boys" will every have a concentrated period of success like we did. All the best JR.
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The good times stopped when Dickov was appointed.
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Let's hope that this now puts an end to it and allow the club to move on and that fans can focus on the positives JR did in the past, not any negatives as that is how his time should be remembered.
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The fact that JR has completely written off his side of the debt and given his shares back to TB and DW is also a massive positive which JR should be commended for. There are less scrupulous people out there.
He has also reasserted his support for TB and DW - if only other could follow his advice.
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The fact that JR has completely written off his side of the debt and given his shares back to TB and DW is also a massive positive which JR should be commended for. There are less scrupulous people out there.
He has also reasserted his support for TB and DW - if only other could follow his advice.
I may be wrong, but I'm sure it was reported at some stage that those loans were sold to a thitd party
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Thanks JR for some amazing memories - I agree that we can now hold the guy in higher esteem
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The fact that JR has completely written off his side of the debt and given his shares back to TB and DW is also a massive positive which JR should be commended for. There are less scrupulous people out there.
He has also reasserted his support for TB and DW - if only other could follow his advice.
I may be wrong, but I'm sure it was reported at some stage that those loans were sold to a thitd party
I haven't read that. This latest article appears to come from an interview with the man himself.
I feel it would be appropriate at this stage (if all the legal issues have been sorted) for the club to release an official statement, thanking JR, and perhaps stating was has happened with the shares and debts. Then any confusion can be cleared up.
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http://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-2386065.aspx (http://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-2386065.aspx)
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There you go. I called it. I am the best.
It doesn't mention the debts or shares though so no doubt there will be some drama somewhere along the line.
But I can only deduce that the friendly tone of all of it means a happy outcome.
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Wow well done DROS
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The fact that JR has completely written off his side of the debt and given his shares back to TB and DW is also a massive positive which JR should be commended for. There are less scrupulous people out there.
He has also reasserted his support for TB and DW - if only other could follow his advice.
I may be wrong, but I'm sure it was reported at some stage that those loans were sold to a thitd party
I haven't read that. This latest article appears to come from an interview with the man himself.
I feel it would be appropriate at this stage (if all the legal issues have been sorted) for the club to release an official statement, thanking JR, and perhaps stating was has happened with the shares and debts. Then any confusion can be cleared up.
http://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/doncaster-rovers/updated-doncaster-rovers-deny-administration-talk-1-6360036
Sequentia Capital are since understood to have agreed to buy that loan off Ryan as part of their strategy to take over the club
I know it says "understood" so that may or may not have happened
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Empty threats (in January last year). Back when bargaining chips were being played to try and get control of the club. The outcome now seems to be amicable. Hope we never hear of SC again.
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A sad, sad day.
John Ryan, absolute colossus. Wouldn't have swapped him for a thousand Russian or Arab billionaires. Not fit to wipe his boots.
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If only these d**kheads in charge showed half the ambition that jr did!! The bloke did his best and made the effort, something sadly lacking from this lot
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Aye, pretty terrible that they've put as much money into it as JR did but haven't shown their face in the media regularly. If you can't see it, it can't be true, can it. Like gravity. That bas**rd gravity, pulling us down.
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Move aside any player in my lifetime. John Ryan will always be my biggest Rover's hero. I knew that at 5pm on a Saturday after a Rover's defeat that he felt the same way I did.
If I'm honest I'd have liked a bit more of fanfare upon his departure, hopefully it'll come still. He needs an eternity of recognition for just what he achieved with a pub team like DRFC.
The club is without a doubt more secure than its ever been. We're owned by very intelligent business men who will ensure our future long term future. They're recruiting the right people who can make us better off the pitch than we've ever been but a bit of the DRFC spirit left with John Ryan and that will be far harder to replace.
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Thank you JR for saving my football club. You brought us success that for years we could only dream of, and possibly may not see for some time again. Without you we wouldn't even have a team left to support.
I only wish you had half the money the current board has. All the best for the future John
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Presume he is not as skint as some people say if he has wiped out the loan
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I think us all as fans are just hoping there will be a statement of intent early doors, if there is then it's fair play, if not and it's another summer scrounge about for frees and has beens then it's time to consider
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The fact that JR has completely written off his side of the debt and given his shares back to TB and DW is also a massive positive which JR should be commended for. There are less scrupulous people out there.
He has also reasserted his support for TB and DW - if only other could follow his advice.
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Thank you so much John for stablising the club I love.
Also thank you for your last gestures.
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The black bank crowd now have another true legend in the history of DRFC to add for a flag. Thank you John Ryan for helping create some treasured moments in my life. Villa, Cardiff, Leeds, Wembely, Stoke hell even the conference cup thing we won that I turned upto at half time cos I got the wrong town (got let for free though).
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not a surprise really but it leaves the club with another problem,whose the board going to blame next season because all weve heard from them is about debacles close season,good luck to john you said what you wanted when you took over the club and achieved it.i have nothing but high regards for the man as most true supporters will.i myself as decided this season is my last supporting rovers will now follow other s.yorks clubs.
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Acko
Did you give up Rovers for other clubs when Richardson was in charge?
And if you don't mind me asking, who are these other S. Yorks clubs? You're not becoming a Wednesdayite, are you?
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I said clubs,not one but all got season ticket for one
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I said clubs,not one but all got season ticket for one
All bar Rovers? That is a Damascene conversion!
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not a surprise really but it leaves the club with another problem,whose the board going to blame next season because all weve heard from them is about debacles close season,good luck to john you said what you wanted when you took over the club and achieved it.i have nothing but high regards for the man as most true supporters will.i myself as decided this season is my last supporting rovers will now follow other s.yorks clubs.
Does that mean you wont be coming on here anymore.
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Lets sing a song for Acko, Im rovers till I die im rovers till I die
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Lets sing a song for Acko, Im rovers till I die im rovers till I die
I'm more inclined towards "Time to go, Time to go-o, Time to go-o-o-o-o, F*** off!"
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I'm genuinely puzzled by Acko's reaction. I realise this has been a disappointing season. I could probably understand someone who said he wasn't going to renew his season tickets. But to give up supporting the club altogether? That seems extreme.
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not a surprise really but it leaves the club with another problem,whose the board going to blame next season because all weve heard from them is about debacles close season,good luck to john you said what you wanted when you took over the club and achieved it.i have nothing but high regards for the man as most true supporters will.i myself as decided this season is my last supporting rovers will now follow other s.yorks clubs.
I had to read your opening line a few times to get my head round what you're suggesting...that it's the current Board's fault for a third party(s) failure to raise enough cash to buy the club ?....Really ?
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So JR. has'written off his loans" what does this term mean I wonder.
Has he written a letter to the club here's my shares back and by the way you can forget about that 4 million you owe me!
That's a lot of money for anyone to throw away.
My own gut feeling is that he has probably given up his shares and told the club they can pay him back the money over the agreed period of time.
That would seem a fair way to leave the club.why should he give Dick ,Terry et al a couple of million quid each.? It doesn't make sense.!
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John Ryan is leaving the club - Acko is leaving the club......its a funny old world.
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Sproty - didnt Dick and Terry say they would do exactly that during the JR/Louis takeover tho?
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not a surprise really but it leaves the club with another problem,whose the board going to blame next season because all weve heard from them is about debacles close season,good luck to john you said what you wanted when you took over the club and achieved it.i have nothing but high regards for the man as most true supporters will.i myself as decided this season is my last supporting rovers will now follow other s.yorks clubs.
Does that mean you wont be coming on here anymore.
Oh Please God, make it so... :thumbsup:
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Yes you're right, the deal was The shares for nowt and JR. and LT would then be left with a £6 million debt.
Has Jr. been putting his shoulder to the cart financially this year? Maybe he is walking away having done some deal over the money he hasn't put in recently.
Could be he has written off part of the debt as money owed and has told them to repay the remainder over a period of time with no interest incurred.
They all got on together so I could see something like that taking place.
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So JR. has'written off his loans" what does this term mean I wonder.
Has he written a letter to the club here's my shares back and by the way you can forget about that 4 million you owe me!
That's a lot of money for anyone to throw away.
My own gut feeling is that he has probably given up his shares and told the club they can pay him back the money over the agreed period of time.
That would seem a fair way to leave the club.why should he give Dick ,Terry et al a couple of million quid each.? It doesn't make sense.!
Maybe JR didn't put money in in recent seasons so effectively 'owed' money into the kitty so to speak, and writing off previous loans canceled that out. Seems plausible?
Whatever the reasons, John Ryan has been inspirational. It was a great ride taking us through every emotion. Good on you John. And thank you.
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That would seem a fair way to leave the club.why should he give Dick ,Terry et al a couple of million quid each.? It doesn't make sense.!
He hasn't given them a couple of million each has he. He gave the club £4 million in loans (instead of cash) which the free press article now suggests have been written off.
Whether TB and DW have 'bought' JR's shares is another matter.
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Yes you're right, the deal was The shares for nowt and JR. and LT would then be left with a £6 million debt.
Has Jr. been putting his shoulder to the cart financially this year? Maybe he is walking away having done some deal over the money he hasn't put in recently.
Could be he has written off part of the debt as money owed and has told them to repay the remainder over a period of time with no interest incurred.
They all got on together so I could see something like that taking place.
They all got on together??
They all got on that well I heard 'they' were threatening to sue JR until recently for not going through with the last takeover deal despite having already pocketed the half a million non-returnable bond which allowed talks to commence.
There have been a lot of 'maybe this' and 'maybe that' comments about whether money has changed hands for the shares etc.
Well maybe JR had to cough up the lot for nothing to prevent being taken to court by those he got on so well with.
In fairness I don't think JR has much of a problem with TB and DW, but I doubt the rift between him and the current anonymous chairman will ever be healed.
It's a sad day and if the 'gang of three' can achieve only a quarter of what JR did during his tenure they will have done very well indeed.
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Oh well Acko other clubs loss is our gain
There goes a true supporter
Hope you have cut the bottom off your rovers shirts
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Was the money owed to JR on the balance sheet? will it effect the pre tax profits of the company .will this have positive or negative benifit on the budget next season . Good old JR just when we thought it was safe to back into the mire !
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Yes you're right, the deal was The shares for nowt and JR. and LT would then be left with a £6 million debt.
Has Jr. been putting his shoulder to the cart financially this year? Maybe he is walking away having done some deal over the money he hasn't put in recently.
Could be he has written off part of the debt as money owed and has told them to repay the remainder over a period of time with no interest incurred.
They all got on together so I could see something like that taking place.
They all got on together??
They all got on that well I heard 'they' were threatening to sue JR until recently for not going through with the last takeover deal despite having already pocketed the half a million non-returnable bond which allowed talks to commence.
There have been a lot of 'maybe this' and 'maybe that' comments about whether money has changed hands for the shares etc.
Well maybe JR had to cough up the lot for nothing to prevent being taken to court by those he got on so well with.
In fairness I don't think JR has much of a problem with TB and DW, but I doubt the rift between him and the current anonymous chairman will ever be healed.
It's a sad day and if the 'gang of three' can achieve only a quarter of what JR did during his tenure they will have done very well indeed.
CURRENT anonymous chairman? Sorry I'm behind the times it seems.
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Was the money owed to JR on the balance sheet? will it effect the pre tax profits of the company .will this have positive or negative benifit on the budget next season . Good old JR just when we thought it was safe to back into the mire !
no as profits and 2
balance sheets are not the same.
It'll be interesting to know if he truly has given everything away I would be very surprised. It is hinted at but not confirmed.
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Why would he want any money back? He's always said he would never take anything out of the club.
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Funny how people manage to put a negative spin on what should be positive news.
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Funny how people manage to put a negative spin on what should be positive news.
No it isn't. Some buggers on here are miserable sods
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Does he still go to matches?
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Do you think this is the end of all the take over Talk or is there still another chapter to be heard. I just hope we can get on with preparing for next season in this t**t of a League without to many hiccups . ie get players contracts signed before the preseason .
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Of course this is the end. But we all now need to see how positive this is for DRFC.
The current owners now have a much larger share of the club, only minority shareholders remain. Plus the settling of loans means less debt within the club. The result of that should be that investment from our current owners will be forthcoming, easier to handle and very welcome. It's a new future for this club, and very positive.
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Would be nice to see the various bodies representing supporters to put out a joint statement recognising the immense contribution made by John Ryan since 1998 - whatever the views may be as to what may or may not have happened in the last few years.
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Would be nice to see the various bodies representing supporters to put out a joint statement recognising the immense contribution made by John Ryan since 1998 - whatever the views may be as to what may or may not have happened in the last few years.
Whatever your opinions of JR in the last few years (and believe me I have said mine), we can only ever accuse John Ryan of daring to dream. A trait we are all guilty of.
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Sm don't no if it's your place to say or not but as people are guessing, has jr given his shares and wiped off the loans?
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timing is everything as henry cooper found out to his disadvantage when he delivered a left hook "coleman " would be proud of" on cassius clay :boxing: :boxing:
similarily it looks "on the balance of probabilities" as if this "action" has by chance ??? taken place in the 2015-2016 tax year - "possibly" to maximise any pecuniary "loss" advantages who knows how "things" are structured it is all a matter of "trust"
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None of the '3 Amigos' will take money out of the club in reality. They are all honourable men. When someone however, representing one of them, threatens to do just that to destabilise the club then it's a different ball game.
Thankfully, a certain Irishman underestimated his adversaries and has been sent packing by all parties and will hopefully not darken our doorstep again.
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Yes you're right, the deal was The shares for nowt and JR. and LT would then be left with a £6 million debt.
Has Jr. been putting his shoulder to the cart financially this year? Maybe he is walking away having done some deal over the money he hasn't put in recently.
Could be he has written off part of the debt as money owed and has told them to repay the remainder over a period of time with no interest incurred.
They all got on together so I could see something like that taking place.
They all got on together??
They all got on that well I heard 'they' were threatening to sue JR until recently for not going through with the last takeover deal despite having already pocketed the half a million non-returnable bond which allowed talks to commence.
There have been a lot of 'maybe this' and 'maybe that' comments about whether money has changed hands for the shares etc.
Well maybe JR had to cough up the lot for nothing to prevent being taken to court by those he got on so well with.
In fairness I don't think JR has much of a problem with TB and DW, but I doubt the rift between him and the current anonymous chairman will ever be healed.
It's a sad day and if the 'gang of three' can achieve only a quarter of what JR did during his tenure they will have done very well indeed.
CURRENT anonymous chairman? Sorry I'm behind the times it seems.
Do you mean he's that anonymous you don't know who he is?
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Of course this is the end. But we all now need to see how positive this is for DRFC.
The current owners now have a much larger share of the club, only minority shareholders remain. Plus the settling of loans means less debt within the club. The result of that should be that investment from our current owners will be forthcoming, easier to handle and very welcome. It's a new future for this club, and very positive.
When is investment hard to handle?
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None of the '3 Amigos' will take money out of the club in reality. They are all honourable men. When someone however, representing one of them, threatens to do just that to destabilise the club then it's a different ball game.
Thankfully, a certain Irishman underestimated his adversaries and has been sent packing by all parties and will hopefully not darken our doorstep again.
How honourable is it when someone goes behind your back and tries to cut you out of a deal which brings money to himself and to others?
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Manchester United had Best, Law and Charlton three of the greatest players to have pulled their shirt on, i feel disappointed that we have lost one of our three, though obviously not players the importance of them all can't be understated.
I always thought they were a perfect team, John's passion for his local team and Terry and Dick doing the understated work behind the scenes.
John was the face of Doncaster Rovers, Terry and Dick played just as important a part after John got the ball rolling, John told the story many times of the state we were in, because he was proud of what the club had achieved and his part in it.
I always wondered did he risk money that made him start to worry about his finances, i hope he didn't, nobody can ever say he didn't back his mouth up.
I will always remember him suited up outside The Britannia Stadium, talking to the ladies selling t-shirts outside and he couldn't stop smiling.
That day he was just one of us who was better dressed.
He did make mistakes near the end, but how many times did he get it right?, many many times i think we can all allow him those mistakes.
A Doncaster lad who made it good and shared some of it with his local team, he left us in good hands and i hope one day he changes his mind, i miss his media presence saying things a lot of us want to about referee's etc.
I would say enjoy your retirement but i don't see him as a bloke who will sit in an armchair, pipe and slippers on the go.
All i can say is Thank you John and good luck, you achieved what you set out to do. :thumbsup: :rtid: :scarf:
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JR. THANK YOU!
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A sad, sad day.
John Ryan, absolute colossus. Wouldn't have swapped him for a thousand Russian or Arab billionaires. Not fit to wipe his boots.
He only played once.....!!!!
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timing is everything as henry cooper found out to his disadvantage when he delivered a left hook "coleman " would be proud of" on cassius clay :boxing: :boxing:
similarily it looks "on the balance of probabilities" as if this "action" has by chance ??? taken place in the 2015-2016 tax year - "possibly" to maximise any pecuniary "loss" advantages who knows how "things" are structured it is all a matter of "trust"
Poppycock.
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Right then, thats a lot of nice comments which I wholeheartedly agree with.
Can we lock this post now, before someone turns it negative?
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Farewell to John Ryan. Whatever his faults, he gave us half a dozen moments that football fans can only dream of.
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The best Rovers league season for more than 100 years, 2009-10, occurred when three of Rovers greats were all at the top of their game - to use military planning speak one at the Tactical level, one at the Operational level and one at the Strategic level. The football was breathtaking.
Billy Sharp was the best Rovers striker at least for a generation, or more (since Jeffrey???).
He was successful because Sean O'Driscoll was the best manager at least for a generation or more (since Doherty???)
This all happened because for a magical 15 years we had the best Rovers chairman of all time, bar none, a candidate for the best ever chairman of any professional football club.
Thank you JR for saving our club from the very brink of destruction and giving us the most successful time in our history.
I apologise because I have posted this before, but here is a slightly humorous but genuine anthem for the 2009-10 season and its 3 heroes - a re-write of Leonard Cohen's magical 'Suzanne':
When Sean takes you down to his place near the lakeside.
You can hear the balls go by,
You can spend the match beside him.
And you know he's half crazy,
But that's why you want to be there.
And he feeds you tea and oranges that come all the way from Bournemouth.
And just when you mean to tell him that you have no goals to give him,
Then he gets you on his wavelength
And he lets the structures answer
That you've always been his striker.
And you want to travel with him,
And you want to travel blind,
And you know he will trust you,
For you've touched his tippy-tappy with your mind.
And Billy was a striker, when he walked upon the Keepmoat
And he spent a long time watching from his lonely Sheffield tower.
And when he knew for certain, only Donny men could see him,
He said: "All men will stay onside then, until the pass shall free them."
But he himself was broken
Long before Adkins would loan him,
Forsaken, almost human,
He sank beneath Southampton, like a stone
And you want to travel with him
And you want to travel blind
And you think maybe you'll trust him
For you've seen his perfect finish with your mind.
Now JR takes your hand and he leads you to the Keepmoat.
He's wearing scarves and banners from One Direction crowdfunds.
And the sun pours down like honey on our Master of the Remake.
And he shows you where to look, among the hedgefunds and the boybands.
There are heroes in the Keepmoat,
There are children in the midfield,
They are leaning out for love,
They will lean that way forever,
While the fans hold the mirror.
And you want to travel with them,
And you want to travel blind,
And you know you can trust them
For you've touched their perfect madness with your mind.
Good luck JR in everything you do :scarf: :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:
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Again?
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Thanks JR for the good times! Here's to the next chapter in the DRFC story!
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There were many on here lucky enough to go on an amazing roller coaster ride thanks to JR, a ride which I never thought I not my dad would see where rovers would gain respect back that had long since gone as a family football club the town can be proud of and one that graced headlines for the right reasons for 99.9% of the time
JR, you are a hero and its sad the last goal of the premier league dream was just a step too far I however would like to thank you for the amazing memories and times that I will never forget and hope we may see them again some day soon