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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Donnyjim on April 21, 2015, 09:53:58 pm
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Hopefully, if we get personal the clown will pack his bag. We are heading back to the conference with this idiot! Leave now and put the Corporal in charge.
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I think you'll find he's here to stay
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Leigh RMI here we come then.
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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Yawn yawn yawn. Please change the record.
PD will be here next season
Accept now and again you're beaten by a better side.
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Leigh RMI here we come then.
I don't think we'll be allowed in the South Lancashire Counties league.
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Leigh RMI here we come then.
I don't think we'll be allowed in the South Lancashire Counties league.
Don't think we'll be allowed to play a team that doesn't actually exist anymore.
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I don't really give a shit, I and hoards of others will stop attending with d**khead in charge. We'll be lucky with 1500 season tickets next season.
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Leigh RMI here we come then.
I don't think we'll be allowed in the South Lancashire Counties league.
Don't think we'll be allowed to play a team that doesn't actually exist anymore.
They're Leigh Genesis, aren't they?
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I don't really give a shit, I and hoards of others will stop attending with d**khead in charge. We'll be lucky with 1500 season tickets next season.
Are you going to tippex out the 'Rovers 'til I die' logo on your shirt before or after you stop going?
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Yawn yawn yawn. Please change the record.
PD will be here next season
Accept now and again you're beaten by a better side.
Why should they be better than us.
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Maybe because they're an established side that have been favourites to get out of this league for about 4 years, and have failed every year, their chairmen has showed patience and not sacked Robinson and now they're finally meeting their expectations
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Leigh RMI here we come then.
I don't think we'll be allowed in the South Lancashire Counties league.
Don't think we'll be allowed to play a team that doesn't actually exist anymore.
They're Leigh Genesis, aren't they?
Apparently, though I could have sworn they went bust a couple of years ago.
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Steve
I'm not saying they SHOULD be better, they just simply are.
Been together years as a squad for sometime and were one of my bankers for at least a play off place at the start of the season. I thought Bristol, Blades, Preston and MK.
MK have been on the fringes for a number of seasons. Just my opinion matey.
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Maybe because they're an established side that have been favourites to get out of this league for about 4 years, and have failed every year, their chairmen has showed patience and not sacked Robinson and now they're finally meeting their expectations
Maybe their owners and manager know what they are doing they not only have a plan on paper they follow it through.
This pre season will show if our owners and manager are good enough to put us in to a postion to get us out of this league. You honestly think they are I do not, the answer will start in pre season when we will see if they truly have the answers or will we have excuses yet again.
The team is only as good as its weakest link, is it the owners or PD who is the weakest?
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Yes I think their owner probably does know what he's doing, same as I think ours know what they're doing too.
Just shows you what loyalty and sensible management can do, a lot of people on here would go through managers every 6 months
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I will be interested to see who we bring in Steve, but not too fussed about the results in the pre season I assume that's what your saying.
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My mate always used to mock me for going to the rovers with the comment 'I'm Rovers 'till next week'. It is just boring looking at the reactions of people when we're not ripping up the leagues. For christ's sake it's football and the reason we're on the stands and the manager is in the dugout is because we know feck all and he's qualified. If you can do better then chuck an application into the mix when the seat does become vacant. I've heard too many pub bores banging on about how they know better about this that any the other.
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Did anyone expect any different tonight? We have nothing to play for they are going for automatic
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No fed up of hearing about preseason for our bad position. So to take the excuses away I want to see when we sign all the players we need.
Will the owners and PD be able to back the exciting plans they have quickly, or will we have to wait again.
Let's take the excuses away so we can all see that PD is not up to the job.
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Your right Steve,but he does deserve that chance
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Did anyone expect any different tonight? We have nothing to play for they are going for automatic
With PD in charge from the start of the season did not expect any thing different for the season.
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Well to state the obvious only the next season will tell us.
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I don't really give a shit, I and hoards of others will stop attending with d**khead in charge. We'll be lucky with 1500 season tickets next season.
We've already sold around 1500 season tickets.
I predict around 3000, which is 1000 less than this year, which backs up my theory that overall attendances will be down by 500-1000 next term unless we are challenging.
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Leigh RMI here we come then.
I don't think we'll be allowed in the South Lancashire Counties league.
Don't think we'll be allowed to play a team that doesn't actually exist anymore.
I hope we are it would be a Guarenteed 6 points
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I don't really give a shit, I and hoards of others will stop attending with d**khead in charge. We'll be lucky with 1500 season tickets next season.
We've already sold around 1500 season tickets.
I predict around 3000, which is 1000 less than this year, which backs up my theory that overall attendances will be down by 500-1000 next term unless we are challenging.
If we have only sold 1500 season tickets, I believe the club said we had sold more than this time last year, then we will get no more than 2000. If 1500 is right.
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I don't really give a shit, I and hoards of others will stop attending with d**khead in charge. We'll be lucky with 1500 season tickets next season.
We've already sold around 1500 season tickets.
I predict around 3000, which is 1000 less than this year, which backs up my theory that overall attendances will be down by 500-1000 next term unless we are challenging.
If we have only sold 1500 season tickets, I believe the club said we had sold more than this time last year, then we will get no more than 2000. If 1500 is right.
There's always a rush before the start of the season.
2000 season tickets would be a complete disaster for the club.
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Underwood, I see he has been a member of this forum for ages, well nearly 2 weeks. Just an observation
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Underwood, I see he has been a member of this forum for ages, well nearly 2 weeks. Just an observation
You're the third person to make note of how long i've been a member of the forum, as if it is some indication to how long I have supported the club.
Can I ask what is it seasoned posters have against new posters (although long term supporter), as you certainly do not make them welcome.
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Post what you want , it's up to you
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Underwood, I see he has been a member of this forum for ages, well nearly 2 weeks. Just an observation
You're the third person to make note of how long i've been a member of the forum, as if it is some indication to how long I have supported the club.
Can I ask what is it seasoned posters have against new posters (although long term supporter), as you certainly do not make them welcome.
Underwood there are some on here who think new posters are 's.it stirrers', agendas are worried about, 'Is this one talking on behalf of somebody else' etc, we have had a fair few wind up merchants, and some think it's just another one.
Our fans as a whole are not a friendly bunch, if you haven't got a key link for every year served, or you are not a member of a club then to some, not all, your opinion doesn't matter.
Some clubs rejoice when they get a few more floating supporters, not some of our fans, they are 'Johnny come Lately's' if they haven't been seen in the same spot every week.
The majority of our fans are good, but some our fans are not very welcoming when we need as many extra fans as possible, if you don't know so and so who runs this supporters club, or you don't know the president of the Back scratchers association then your opinion can be null and void.
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I will be interested to see who we bring in Steve, but not too fussed about the results in the pre season I assume that's what your saying.
Could not agree more Lincoln . As I said in a Post a few weeks ago, we have sacked one manager since Dave Penney . how many have Barnsley and Sheff Utd sacked in the same Period ? And what league are they in, yes the same as us.
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I will be interested to see who we bring in Steve, but not too fussed about the results in the pre season I assume that's what your saying.
Could not agree more Lincoln . As I said in a Post a few weeks ago, we have sacked one manager since Dave Penney . how many have Barnsley and Sheff Utd sacked in the same Period ? And what league are they in, yes the same as us.
Doesn't matter how many they have sacked our manager isn't good enough and will not come good.
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not just pd fault everybody knows were the trouble lays just wont admit it ,the team was never good enough to sustain a challenge too many coming to their career end,copps,wellens.jones.bywater.butler.tyson,macoombe,all had better days,we haven't got the class of young performers coming thro,the board are showing no interest in the football side of the club,at last augusts meet the owners meeting a gentleman asked mr bramhall would he ever live to see prem football at rovers bramhalls response was to laugh,JR wouldn't have laughed he would have said we will certainly be trying,the same response from bramhall regarding Tomlinson being involved in some way was to say not for any foreseeable future.this shows a total lack of ambition,get rid of the dummy acting as a chairman and get someone in that can convince the supporters we are going in the right direction.
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Did anyone expect any different tonight? We have nothing to play for they are going for automatic
Are you serious? Did we not draw at home against that same team? Are we not supposed to be so much better away from home?. We had no pressure to deal with yet we get a 3-0 drubbing. Just perfect.
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We had nothing to play for thou
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not just pd fault everybody knows were the trouble lays just wont admit it ,the team was never good enough to sustain a challenge too many coming to their career end,copps,wellens.jones.bywater.butler.tyson,macoombe,all had better days,we haven't got the class of young performers coming thro,the board are showing no interest in the football side of the club,at last augusts meet the owners meeting a gentleman asked mr bramhall would he ever live to see prem football at rovers bramhalls response was to laugh,JR wouldn't have laughed he would have said we will certainly be trying,the same response from bramhall regarding Tomlinson being involved in some way was to say not for any foreseeable future.this shows a total lack of ambition,get rid of the dummy acting as a chairman and get someone in that can convince the supporters we are going in the right direction.
I will be interested to see who we bring in Steve, but not too fussed about the results in the pre season I assume that's what your saying.
Could not agree more Lincoln . As I said in a Post a few weeks ago, we have sacked one manager since Dave Penney . how many have Barnsley and Sheff Utd sacked in the same Period ? And what league are they in, yes the same as us.
Doesn't matter how many they have sacked our manager isn't good enough and will not come good.
Whilst I respect your oPinion, all I was trying to say was that it is not always the answer having a merrygoround of managers,
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We had nothing to play for thou
Pride? Their places in the squad for next year? The fans who travelled perhaps?
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Never happens thou gray,your right they should play for all that and I'm sure the effort is there to a degree but I have played at a decent level myself and once there is nothing to play for it's just not the same
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Nothing to play for???
The lazy ******* ********!!!!!!!!
What about the 2 grand a week they're getting paid or whatever it is. Maybe if they stopped their pay for a week they'd think they had something to play for.
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Come on mr frost it happens every year in every team
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Did anyone expect any different tonight? We have nothing to play for they are going for automatic
Are you serious? Did we not draw at home against that same team? Are we not supposed to be so much better away from home?. We had no pressure to deal with yet we get a 3-0 drubbing. Just perfect.
The last time we were in this League we finished the season with the best away record in the country. We still drew 0-0 with MK at home and lost 3-0 away.
As for Dickov and the board they have adopted a long term plan to change the outlook of the squad into one much more reliant on young talent combined with some experienced players. We're 8 months into that plan and if the club are serious about it its too soon to judge Dickov.
We should stop judging ourselves against everybody else and our recent success and instead judge ourselves against the situation we are in. Relegation will always make the season after difficult, what Saunders and Flynn achieved was more of an anomaly rather than the norm. Only a handful of teams bounce straight back up at the first time of asking but look at Sheffield United, Barnsley, Yeovil, Portsmouth, Coventry, Peterborough and Scunthorpe in recent seasons.
Obviously we should be expecting to challenge, and for most of this season we were in the running to challenge for a playoff spot. Had we turned 5 of our losses into wins this season we would have been up there. That is literally how close we have been and shows we aren't a million miles away.
We have to trust Dickov has learnt from his mistakes these last two seasons and will put them right next season.
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Good post mr croft
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Did anyone expect any different tonight? We have nothing to play for they are going for automatic
Are you serious? Did we not draw at home against that same team? Are we not supposed to be so much better away from home?. We had no pressure to deal with yet we get a 3-0 drubbing. Just perfect.
We have to trust Dickov has learnt from his mistakes these last two seasons and will put them right next season.
I'm sorry, but I don't..... and I don't think I'm alone.
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He needs to go or we will be back to crowds of a couple of thousand, I can accept losing when we actually put 100% in and play some decent football but this tripe that dickov has us playing is so boring, theirs normally 5/6 of us that go home away most weeks but next season only 2 of us have renewed our season tickets andtheir reason for not is dickov
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We have to trust Dickov Mr Croft?
Yes we do. We don't have a ******* choice do we. Apart from vote with our feet, which I won't do as I hope against hope he will go.
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We have to trust Dickov has learnt from his mistakes these last two seasons and will put them right next season.
We are sat watching him make the same mistakes week in week out, if he showed signs of learning from them then I would be willing to put my trust in him as the right man to take this club forward but he has shown nothing for 2 years so what will another pre season do for him?
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We are going backwards. On any objective measure we are in a worse place now than two or even one year ago. Some of the reasons for this are down to Dickov, some are not. Folk need to wake up though and realise that we are not doing ok and working to any plan other than a plan that puts you further back than where you started.
The football this season has been absolutely dreadful for 80% of the time and 100% of the time at home. Absolute rubbish. Pitiful.
The players recruited this season have been ok at best (Butler, Tyson, Stevens, Wabara) but largely hugely disappointing (Main, Razak, JCH).
Outside of a relegation season this has been the worst season to watch Rovers since we were plumbing depths of conference under Wignall. Absolute and total rubbish.
Things have got to change next season. Under Dickov or under someone else.
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when the original game against mk was called off we still had a chance of play offs and people was posting then that maybe mk would have nothing to play for thinking auto promotion would be out of question could be easy.but now people are wondering why they played their hearts out and we didn't.the other thing everybody thinks they are managers way they talk,not saying pd is the best man for the job but we all have ideas how we want to play and the team we should pick and that would differ amongst the supporters.
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It's not another pre season thou,it will be his 1st pre season
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Recruitment this season is going to be fascinating.
Our two best and potentially most influential players in Wellens and Copps are hitting their mid thirties. You can't keep sweating your keep assets at that age. They will have to be managed very carefully to get them through season.
Nobody else is good enough or focused enough to deliver a match winning performance. Dickov will have to buy these players. We no longer have them.
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Agree Chris quality players rarely come cheap thou
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Well. This close season will be a good chance to gauge the board's intentions I reckon. Especially now that they have John Ryan's shares and a clear run so to speak...
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And Acko... Give it a rest with the board beating. It's so f**king boring.
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We are going backwards. On any objective measure we are in a worse place now than two or even one year ago. Some of the reasons for this are down to Dickov, some are not. Folk need to wake up though and realise that we are not doing ok and working to any plan other than a plan that puts you further back than where you started.
The football this season has been absolutely dreadful for 80% of the time and 100% of the time at home. Absolute rubbish. Pitiful.
The players recruited this season have been ok at best (Butler, Tyson, Stevens, Wabara) but largely hugely disappointing (Main, Razak, JCH).
Outside of a relegation season this has been the worst season to watch Rovers since we were plumbing depths of conference under Wignall. Absolute and total rubbish.
Things have got to change next season. Under Dickov or under someone else.
I've said before that Dickov's reign reminds me a lot of Wignall's. The latter actually recruited some good players - the nucleus of the 2002-03 side was signed on his watch - but he failed to get the best from them and the result was often turgid football. Allied to a feeling that we were treading water.
The manner of Wignall's eventual departure meant that quite a few people had sympathy for him. Similarly if Dickov were to be fired this close season a lot would feel he hadn't been given a fair crack. But with Dickov as with Wignall, I don't feel we will fulfill our potential while he remains at the helm. I also feel that someone else could tease a lot more out of the same bunch of players.
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Agree fully TRB!
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Maybe Dickov would be more suited to a Glenn Roeder (Sheff Wed) type role. With his obvious connections in the game perhaps him making a sideways move would appease everyone, thus making way for a new head coach.
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BB, you might be right, isn't there an opening for Chief Scout?
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I still think it's a replacement for BH we need to assist Dickov
By the way some on here think we have God given right to be challenging for promotion and are starting to sound more like wendies and blunts
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I still think it's a replacement for BH we need to assist Dickov
By the way some on here think we have God given right to be challenging for promotion and are starting to sound more like wendies and blunts
No, it's more if you have one of the top budgets in the league you expect the team to be nearer the top than the bottom. Nothing to do with arrogance.
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We might well end up nearer the top yet
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I still think it's a replacement for BH we need to assist Dickov
By the way some on here think we have God given right to be challenging for promotion and are starting to sound more like wendies and blunts
They both can f**k off.
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Eloquently put
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tell me pdx who is to blame and tell me why the vsc is so unpopular with the supporters maybe its because they side with this board all the time,and while your at it give me one good reason the plank of a chairmanshould be in that position
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To be fair Acko who else is there to do that job we don't seem inundated with offers
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Exactly blackpool. It's blame blame blame Acko. I don't think Paul Dickov is the right man for the job and I have faith it the board to do the right thing and pull the trigger if he's not delivering, say, 10 games into next season. We can go back and forth all day but he has not had a proper pre-season to build. That's a fact. You may not like it. I certainly don't but it's where we are.
Tbh, I was not expecting much this season. We will finish mid-table. As most expected. Football teams go through transitions. We are in one now... A few players at the end of their time, some youngsters coming though who show promise... It requires a measured approach.
As I said, I reckon the board will give him money to spend and I think he will bring in quality and steel. Whether he can weld that into a force to be reckoned with is another matter. If he can't, he will be shown the door soon enough... But he deserves a chance at a clear Summer. Just my opinion.
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I still think it's a replacement for BH we need to assist Dickov
By the way some on here think we have God given right to be challenging for promotion and are starting to sound more like wendies and blunts
No, it's more if you have one of the top budgets in the league you expect the team to be nearer the top than the bottom. Nothing to do with arrogance.
Very rarely happens that way
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the trouble is pdx dickov will not be on contract soon I beleave so does he get one and if he does your 10 game thery goes out the window,and I along with a lot of others didn't see the proof with the signings we made that the budget was anywhere near the top in league 1
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I'm not sure I agree with you acko - yes we didn't pay much for players but I would imagine the players that we 'bought' in a wage sense is pretty high! Copps, wellens, keegan renegotaited, main, tyson, butler and maybe razak are probably all on a decent whack at this level! The lads on loan I assume we contributed a bit too, and the 'lesser' known players wabarra and evina (plus any others I've missed) won't have been on less than 1000 a week I wouldn't have thought - obviously don't know but would imagine that's a pretty hefty wage budget for this level - throw in furman and forrester and there's probably a chunk and a half gone on wages alone!
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I still think it's a replacement for BH we need to assist Dickov
By the way some on here think we have God given right to be challenging for promotion and are starting to sound more like wendies and blunts
No, it's more if you have one of the top budgets in the league you expect the team to be nearer the top than the bottom. Nothing to do with arrogance.
Not an argument people used much last year to justify our relegation with the second lowest budget in the division.
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the trouble is pdx dickov will not be on contract soon I beleave so does he get one and if he does your 10 game thery goes out the window,and I along with a lot of others didn't see the proof with the signings we made that the budget was anywhere near the top in league 1
You're never going to see proof of what players are being paid. And neither should you. That's between the employer and employee. You're just casting out thoughts that don't really hold any weight to be honest.
Or would you rather see a fax copy of a bank statement, which was seemingly good enough for your old mate JR to try and sell the club? It doesn't work like that.
You may not like the current owners but they are highly successful men and you don't get to that level through huff and bluster, shooting your mouth off or not being clinical and ruthless when you have to be. They are no soft touch and just because they are not front and centre in the Free Press each week doesn't mean they won't act to get rid of a failing manager. Let's wait and see eh?