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Title: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on May 19, 2015, 09:28:28 am
Was looking on the EPSN Top 50 Boxers of All Time list the other day. There was just ONE a British boxer on it.

Without looking, fight fans, who do you reckon it was?
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: jonnydog on May 19, 2015, 09:29:12 am
Your mum ;)
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: Bentley Bullet on May 19, 2015, 10:11:42 am
Henry Cooper
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: The Red Baron on May 19, 2015, 10:14:32 am
I would say it has to be Henry Cooper. Surprised there aren't one or two more in the lighter weights.
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on May 19, 2015, 10:24:26 am
Cooper's not in the top 50. Couldn't be anywhere near really since he was never a World Champ.
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: grayx on May 19, 2015, 10:30:03 am
My favourite was Barry McGuigan..
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: GazLaz on May 19, 2015, 10:37:32 am
Calzaghe, Steve Collins (not Brirish admittedly), Lennox and Naz are the best I've seen in 20 years of watching boxing.
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on May 19, 2015, 10:40:45 am
All NO. You're all too focussed on the modern era.
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: Filo on May 19, 2015, 10:41:57 am
John Conteh
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on May 19, 2015, 10:45:55 am
No. Way back
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: Filo on May 19, 2015, 10:46:24 am
Randolph Turpin
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on May 19, 2015, 10:48:21 am
Nope
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: Filo on May 19, 2015, 10:51:22 am
Bob Fitzsimmons
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: GazLaz on May 19, 2015, 10:58:33 am
I'd argue it was William "Iron" Hague from Mexborough in the early 1900s. He was the first British Heaveyweight champion and trained by none other than my great great grandad Frank. I'm not sure ESPN know much about him though!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/southyorkshire/content/articles/2009/04/27/iron_hague_feature.shtml
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: RobTheRover on May 19, 2015, 11:55:09 am
I was going to say William Hague too, but I was thinking of the other one.
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: The Red Baron on May 19, 2015, 12:06:31 pm
If it is from way back then Bob Fitzsimmons.
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: The Red Baron on May 19, 2015, 12:12:53 pm
Quote from: RobTheRover on May 19, 2015, 11:55:09 am
I was going to say William Hague too, but I was thinking of the other one.

He couldn't lay a glove on Tony Blair!
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: knockers on May 19, 2015, 12:30:17 pm
Bruce Woodcock
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on May 19, 2015, 12:49:12 pm
No all round.

I'm guessing William Hague would have needed to float like a butterfly to avoid getting t**tted at Wath Comp, but it's not him either.
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: mushRTID on May 19, 2015, 12:51:12 pm
I would have guessed Calzaghe....

Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: Bentley Bullet on May 19, 2015, 12:53:10 pm
Chris Ewbank
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: Bentley Bullet on May 19, 2015, 12:56:59 pm
Sugar Boy Sweetie.

Or was that William Hague's fighting name?
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on May 19, 2015, 01:14:46 pm
Calzaghe probably ought to be there but he isn't.
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: Filo on May 19, 2015, 01:20:13 pm
My Grandads brother was a bare knuckle fighter, and challenged Iron Hague to a bare knuckle money fight when he was British Champion, Iron Hague decline the challenge, the pussy! :)
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: andy didcott on May 19, 2015, 02:45:14 pm
Has to be Ted 'the kid' Lewis.
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on May 19, 2015, 02:46:02 pm
Got it.
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: Wild Rover on May 19, 2015, 02:48:57 pm
Not John " Jack" Broughton then ?
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: The Red Baron on May 19, 2015, 03:38:48 pm
I have heard of Kid Lewis but he wasn't one I immediately thought of. He did fight at several different weights. Probably at his best as a welterweight, or light heavy, if you prefer.
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: GazLaz on May 19, 2015, 04:36:13 pm
There's a big difference between Welter and light heavyweight.
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: The Red Baron on May 19, 2015, 05:16:14 pm
Sorry, you are quite right. I was mixing up my welters and cruisers!
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: bpoolrover on May 19, 2015, 05:39:13 pm
Did he lose any fights
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: Filo on May 19, 2015, 05:42:26 pm
Quote from: bpoolrover on May 19, 2015, 05:39:13 pm
Did he lose any fights

According to the font of all knowledge Wiki he lost 41 fights
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on May 19, 2015, 07:33:01 pm
Filo

Aye. Out of about 250!
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on May 19, 2015, 07:37:53 pm
Here's the list
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/greatest/featureVideo?page=greatest4150

Looks like it was compiled in 2007 given the comments about Bernard Hopkins coming out of retirement. Might explain why Calzaghe's not in there.
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: Filo on May 19, 2015, 07:38:11 pm
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 19, 2015, 07:33:01 pm
Filo

Aye. Out of about 250!

299 according to Wiki
Title: Re: Best British Boxer of All Time
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on May 19, 2015, 07:45:23 pm
299 fights in a 20 year career! Christ, that's one bout every 24 days for 20 years!