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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: roversdude on August 08, 2015, 09:42:14 pm
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Has anyone had any dealings with these
Her indoors was blocked in in car park on Young Street so was 5 minutes late getting out of car park resulting in letter demanding £100
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Hi Roversdude,
I got a parking Notice from these cowboys in the same car park .
Read up on this company and under English law you cannot just ignore these notices.
I went down the road of appealing first to Parking Eye which is the process that you need to follow.
Obviously Parking eye threw that appeal out and they then have to take it to an independent appeal with POPLA (parking on private land appeals)
I provided POPLA with my evidence and it was overturned as can be seen in the reply below they (Parking Eye) don't have the authority from the landowner to issue parking charge notices.
The whole process took about two months but worth it in the end to not have to take the fine , you could try the direct approach and state that you need evidence from Parking Eye that they have the authority from the landowner to issue parking notices, hope this helps
It is the Operator’s case that the Appellant’s vehicle was parked without having purchased the appropriate parking time or remained at the car park for longer than permitted and this was a breach of the terms and conditions of parking as set out on signage at the site.
The Appellant has made a number of submissions which I do not intend to deal with and will only elaborate on the reason why I am allowing this appeal, namely that the Operator does not have the authority from the landowner to issue parking charge notices.
The Appellant has asked to see proof that the Operator has the authority to issue parking charges. The Operator has failed to provide a copy of the contract between themselves and the landowner to show that they have the authority to issue parking charge notices and therefore I have no evidence before me to refute the Appellant’s submission. The onus is on the Operator to prove their case against the Appellant and on this occasion they have not done so.
Accordingly, this appeal must be allowed.
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Just ignore it, your wife didn't enter into a contract with Parking Eye.
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If the place your lady parked was privately owned land, then the omly people who can stiff you for fines over unpaid car park charges are the coppers and the local council. Everyone else is simply trying it on. Don't reply. Don't let them know, by any means imaginable, that you exist. Do not respond. Do not speak, write, email, send smoke signals. Do not do anything. At all. Ever. They will send ever more threatening letters, with the alleged fine escalating severely each time. Ignore all them too. In the end they will get fed up and they'll go pick on some other sucker.
There's shedloads on the net about this sort of thing. There's threads a couple of years ago on Off Topic about it.
Some cowboy tried it on with me for outstaying my welcome at a car park on some M4 Services. They tried getting really nasty - and then they packed it in.
So, if on private lad, do not pay up! Do not get in touch. Do not respond to anything!
BobG
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Thanks guys
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The link below advises that it is not always a good idea to ignore these claims. Parking Eye may try to obtain a CCJ against you if you do. Not only expensive but also potentially damaging to your credit rating.
http://www.parkingcowboys.co.uk/parking-eye/
However, appeals are often successful or will persuade Parking Eye to drop their claim.
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Yes. The advice a couple of years ago was to ignore them. Now, it's to appeal them properly and if they throw your appeal out (which they will) take it to the independent ombudsman, POPLA.
It's much easier to win if you have complied with the process is the message, shown that you are being reasonable
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Oh. Tghanks everyone. Clearly, I am behind the times. RD: ignore everything I said!
Rob and friends: does this mean then that these companies now have the power to fine you? if they do, ok, I see the logic of doing a proper appeal and so on> If they don't have that power, why the chuff should we care what they do?
BobG
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Bob - No, they don't have the power to "fine" you. A "fine" is a statutory that only councils, courts and police have the power to issue.
Where things are changing though is that the "parking charge" companies have got their act together re their signage & wording and seem to be having more success in proving that a contract was in place between the driver and them (as opposed to the landowner) and that the £100 is therefore payable and, crucially, it is seen as a reasonable amount to cover their losses and damages to the landowner.
I've successfully ignored in the past and would let it go to court if necessary as I don't believe they can prove that a contract has effectively been formed or that the charge they issue is reasonable.
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I LOVE reading this. The Court case where the biter was bit ! GOOD :evil: :evil: :evil:
Love especially Page 13 Line 26 and the bring your Toothbrush quote
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CFQQFjAIahUKEwjztrfKxaHHAhXDvRQKHR17AaE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnebula.wsimg.com%2Fe3da92cb966c72de63ec1f98605c2954%3FAccessKeyId%3D4CB8F2392A09CF228A46%26disposition%3D0%26alloworigin%3D1&ei=Xi_KVfOPJ8P7Up32hYgK&usg=AFQjCNGw8mZv8taB3Kixqq9HXxQaJMscKQ
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Talking of parking......Asda...what are you doing ???
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Thank you Wolf!! That is the most entertaining, heartening and wonderful read Iv'e had in ages. Great stuff! Makes you want to shake Judge McIlwaine by the hand very warmly indeed doesn't it?!
BobG