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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Dare to dream! on August 11, 2015, 03:21:50 pm
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Agreed a 6m fee with Palace for Dwight Gale. That's outrageous! I'm sure I saw Cotterill moaning about how expensive players were at the weekend
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Let's just hope they're heading down as we go up
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It's showing a bit of ambition - I admit it's a bit overpriced but he's dropping down from the premiership that puts a strikers price up for a start
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He will be quality in that division. Still young as well.
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It's more than showing ambition which is fine as long as the chairman does not want the money back
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They only have 16 players.
Panick buying.
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Well done to Bristol City is their owner A Russian Billionaires?
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Cotterill didn't look happy on fl show going on about not having a good summer
Bless
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He will score for fun in that league quality signing.
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Well done to Bristol City is their owner A Russian Billionaires?
No, he's a very successful businessman who is committed to Bristol sport. Think "Club Doncaster" but with a guy who is SOOOO willing to put his cash down that it brings tears to your eyes.
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He will score for fun in that league quality signing.
Aye. Just like Ross McCormack.
£11m. 17 goals in 44 league starts for Fulham. That's about the same goals/start ratio as Paul Heffernan had in the Championship. And Hefferman goals were a bit cheaper than the thick end of £750k each.
Those prices are utterly divorced from any semblance of reality.
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why should rovers supporters concern theirselfs with what Bristol spend,6mill is what teams get I beleave so they spend it on a player what did rovers do with theirs apart from buying a rugby team
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Strong team out and getting licked 3-0 at Luton, Cotterill will not be happy
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He will score for fun in that league quality signing.
Aye. Just like Ross McCormack.
£11m. 17 goals in 44 league starts for Fulham. That's about the same goals/start ratio as Paul Heffernan had in the Championship. And Hefferman goals were a bit cheaper than the thick end of £750k each.
Those prices are utterly divorced from any semblance of reality.
Ross McCormack was over priced but he's not playing as an out and out striker at Fulham so his return isn't that bad.
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why should rovers supporters concern theirselfs with what Bristol spend,6mill is what teams get I beleave so they spend it on a player what did rovers do with theirs apart from buying a rugby team
Why should a hull city fan concern themselves with what Doncaster rovers spend?
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Six million for Gayle, they want to get him in a taxi as quick as they can, they have robbed Palace.
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why should rovers supporters concern theirselfs with what Bristol spend,6mill is what teams get I beleave so they spend it on a player what did rovers do with theirs apart from buying a rugby team
The Rovers never bought a rugby team. How many times do you have to be corrected on this subject?
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why should rovers supporters concern theirselfs with what Bristol spend,6mill is what teams get I beleave so they spend it on a player what did rovers do with theirs apart from buying a rugby team
The Rovers never bought a rugby team. How many times do you have to be corrected on this subject?
Doncaster Rugby League Club:
Directors: Gavin Baldwin John Scarrow Club Doncaster Limited
Club Doncaster Ltd:
Directors: Andrew Watson David Blunt Gavin Baldwin Terry Bramall
So Doncaster Rovers don't own The Dons but the directors via Club Doncaster are also directors of the Dons.
Correct me if I am wrong.
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why should rovers supporters concern theirselfs with what Bristol spend,6mill is what teams get I beleave so they spend it on a player what did rovers do with theirs apart from buying a rugby team
Bristol City also bought a rugby team. So what's your point?
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Seems to have gone up to £8 million now
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why should rovers supporters concern theirselfs with what Bristol spend,6mill is what teams get I beleave so they spend it on a player what did rovers do with theirs apart from buying a rugby team
The Rovers never bought a rugby team. How many times do you have to be corrected on this subject?
Doncaster Rugby League Club:
Directors: Gavin Baldwin John Scarrow Club Doncaster Limited
Club Doncaster Ltd:
Directors: Andrew Watson David Blunt Gavin Baldwin Terry Bramall
So Doncaster Rovers don't own The Dons but the directors via Club Doncaster are also directors of the Dons.
Correct me if I am wrong.
You're not wrong. But to claim that DRFC bought the Dons is a falsehood. Club Doncaster are the owners of both clubs.
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on 20th November 2013 gavin Baldwin announced that Doncaster rovers have purchased the Doncaster rugby league team from co owners carl hall & steve scholes for an undisclosed fee.probably forgot to tell you sm
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And back to reality in league 1
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£6 million is not divorced from reality.
Middlesborough has offered £10 million for Jordan Rhodes and it's been turned down and he's not a premier league player. It's called ambition. Good luck to them
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Acko. When are you actually going to leave?
BobG
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I rate Gayle and think he is a quality striker in the prem never mind a league below!
My point is more, how can a club like Bristol City who aren't massive pay 6-8 million for a player? It's ridiculous. If we were to be promoted this season how could we compete?
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That i s a point i have been making to people for years now.
I really want us to get back to the Championship but in reality i know we will always be likely to struggle to be anything better than a bottom half team.
PD would be slated again for managing a struggling team.
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on 20th November 2013 gavin Baldwin announced that Doncaster rovers have purchased the Doncaster rugby league team from co owners carl hall & steve scholes for an undisclosed fee.probably forgot to tell you sm
He may have said that, but the money came from TB and DW as a separate funding stream, therefore no DRFC money was used. The subsequent restructure means that Club Doncaster own the Dons.
"The takeover will create immediate revenue streams for the stadium and I would like to reassure our loyal supporters that the Dons will have no negative impact on funds available for Doncaster Rovers, the initial cost was funded separately by the owners."
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We could compete in exactly the same way as Bristol City are trying to compete.
If our owners wanted to spend £6m on a striker, they could. FFP has more holes in it than the collinder in my kitchen cupboard
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MFD, i agree with you about the cullinder.
However, although our directors could spend 6 mill if they wanted to could you EVER see them doing it?
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Answers on a postcard!!!
No they wouldn't, but when you look at the players we had, you don't need to spend £6m on one player.
We paid a million or so for Sharp, about £300k for Mills, similar for Stock I think and the rest were cheaper. Ok, those figures would be higher now 5 or 6 years later, but we probably spent less than £5m in total.
The issue is, IMO, we spent next to nothing last time we were in the Championship. And while spending loads of dosh is no guarantee of success, spending nothing will almost guarantee you won't succeed. And that doesn't matter which division you are in, relatively speaking obviously.
We spent nothing, or next to nothing, on players last season and IMO that was reflected in the garbage we were served up at home and where we finished in the league. That and a certain other person obviously. Once again in my opinion, which some people won't agree with :-D
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You are kind of backing my point up then MFD in that i cant see our owners spending £6m (or anywhere near that) on players if we did get promoted.
Therefore we would almost certainly struggle to stay up.
Jamie Copps wrote an article recently after Bournmouth got promoted to the PL (promised land?) in which he said that if the Board had signed (the right) players during our second season up when we were pushing for a top six place then it could have been us doing a Bournmouth.
Now i guess that would sound like a pipe dream but hey, perhaps it could have happened?
I would hope that if we were ever to get into a similar position in future that the club would have the foresight to have a go.
On the Dickov thing, irrespective of how good or bad you or other may think he is i think that if he got us promoted then he would have a job keeping us up without significant financial backing.
Come to think of it so would Jose of Chelsea.
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Think Gayle has turned BC down
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ok SM I take your point although I don't beleave it,but weve been down this road before.but can you hand on heart say you would prefer the owners to spend money on the rugby team or on the rovers because I,m sure the majority would prefer money spent on rovers to give a fair chance of promotion and sustain championship level.bristol city although with a bigger fan base are trying to ensure there new level.bournemouth has raised the bar and shown I can be acieved
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acko, we have been down this road before, so no doubt my words will go to waste. But any businessman will see that the way to make this club more successful is to increase revenue. We struggle to do that with our own supporters and the commercial side, although doing well, has limitations. Therefore the answer is to make your key asset, the stadium, earn its keep. To do that you have to expand the offering, get more people through the turnstiles and create greater revenue spend. The Keepmoat has gone from being a loss making enterprise when run by the council to a very profitable one since we took over. That's extra money that goes into the DRFC pot, or more precisely less money the club have to find to cover their overheads.
In your example you consider that there is only one pot of money and that's being shared out between two sports clubs. I would suggest that you are wrong to assume that. I'm sure Terry and Dick are happy to provide whatever funds are required for both teams so long as they can see that the stadium and its employees are working hard to balance the books to the best of their ability.
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Can I ask the question. Who is actually responsible for the running of the stadium and gets the revenue it generates. Is it DRFC or is it Club Doncaster?
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Well the lease is actually DRFC through the foundation. It may have changed since.
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wasn't arguing that the keepmoat now makes profit,after all nothing the council runs makes profit the dome for example.but was the keepmoat making more when the rugby paid rent for the use of,because I fail to see how with there performances and gates this season can increase any revenue to drfc ,who please tell whose responsible for the gate people the security and other overheads required on the home rugbys match day.and to do you a favour that is my last comment regarding this but I do know these questions will be asked at the next owners meeting if they are allowed to speak
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For a bloke who don't support Donny Rovers you dodn't half make a lot of noise Acko. Haven't your new lot got a messageboard or something?
BobG
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For a bloke who don't support Donny Rovers you dodn't half make a lot of noise Acko. Haven't your new lot got a messageboard or something?
BobG
He can tell we're heading for a tasty season and his Dr Jekyll is rising again.
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Oh God no. I really hope not.....
BobG
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I don't think anybody expected the Dons to struggle as badly as they have this year, so i am told last season they had a lot of quality loan players, this season they haven't had them, didn't they end a tie up with Wakefield that was bringing players in?.
I think most thought that they would be pushing for promotion after last season, and if they had been on the fringes extra funding might have been put in.
This Thornton guy isn't the man to turn them round, it's got worse since Cooke left if that was possible, it's a set back being almost certainly relegated, i think the idea was to try and squeeze into the top league at some point, but it's gone horribly wrong.
In hindsight the club underestimated how much they needed to recruit just to stand still, the gates have to improve though for the Dons to have any chance.
I am sure the money which has gone into them is not out of our pot, but whether it's the left pocket or right it's all from the same people.
The club Doncaster is in it's infancy at the minute, i am sure many could benefit from joining it if they use the gym etc and like both sports.
Our town is a touch small minded, it takes a couple of centuries for our people to open they're minds.
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Cotterill proves again what a horrible excuse of a human being he is
Carbon copy of when we played his then Portsmouth side