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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: redbrez on August 22, 2015, 04:18:59 pm
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what managers are available, Swindon manager cooper for me ?
I hope we have a budget for players still, because has much as I have loved wellens and especially copps , big decisions need to be made and dickov needs to make them , we have no pace or legs in midfield, I would seriously drop wellens and copps and sorry Middleton will never be good enough , what top ten side would Middleton be playing in ?
I think it's to late for a new manager to change things , but leave dickov in charge and it's going to be a dire long season.
Belive me were in a relegation battle
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Jones as interim until we find a permanent replacement. Rocket up their arse in the changing room. Realistically we're only going to get an up and coming manager so take the time to find one who actually knows what he's doing.
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Redfearn for me.
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Anyone.
I'd take Paul Ince, that's how bad it is. :facepalm:
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Redfearn is a good call, knows the club.
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Good shout Redfern
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Don't like these type of threads but seems inevitable he will get sacked? Right?
Dean Smith would be the top of my list.
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Redfearn is a good call, knows the club.
Got harshly done at Leeds is very good with younger players and no compensation would be required.
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Anyone.
I'd take Paul Ince, that's how bad it is. :facepalm:
MrWoodySir - things are never, ever, that bad!
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good call redfern
Mcdermot still out of a job?
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Anyone.
I'd take Paul Ince, that's how bad it is. :facepalm:
Yeovil fans would say that they are in a worst place than us, rock bottom of L2 with no points.
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Can we get beat first please??
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Don't like these type of threads but seems inevitable he will get sacked? Right?
Dean Smith would be the top of my list.
A manager whose teams consistently punch above their weight. Now where have I heard that before? Also has an excellent, underrated No. 2.
Wouldn't be short of suitors if he wanted to move though. I like the sound of Redfearn. Good at bringing on young players and had a raw deal at Leeds.
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Anyone.
I'd take Paul Ince, that's how bad it is. :facepalm:
Yeovil fans would say that they are in a worst place than us, rock bottom of L2 with no points.
Strange post. In no way relevant to our situation.
Anyway their winning, what a comeback.
If only we had that kind of bite...
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Can we get beat first please??
We certainly can.
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He will not be going any where
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Redfern it the one we will get.
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Jones is the manager in waiting
COYR
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Are people just hiveminding Redfern? What credentials does he have? Is he still working at Leeds - would he want to quit his job?
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He will not be going any where
If he has any self respect he'll walk..
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Jones for me. Takes no shit has brilliant leadership skills. Liked by the fans
Why not? Can't be worse than the shit we have seen for the last 3 years
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f**k rob Jones he'd only play same side, it needs a big shake up, and quick wellens copps Middleton mc ffs need I name anymore it's not coaching there past it and not good enough, ffs wake up smell the coffee
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I personally come over and drag Mark Weaver from his market stall. Failing the Danny Burgervan
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f*** rob Jones he'd only play same side, it needs a big shake up, and quick wellens copps Middleton mc ffs need I name anymore it's not coaching there past it and not good enough, ffs wake up smell the coffee
Until the injured players come back we have no options to change the team anyway! So what imaginary shake-up could we possibly do? So in the short-term it's about getting the best out of the players we have got so we don't get embarrassed every week. Jones can do that.
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Time for a total change if the owners are interested give hthe new guy the money or be honest with the supporters
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Redfern is unemployed. He just spends his time watching us play, all due diligence done already.
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Redfern is unemployed. He just spends his time watching us play, all due diligence done already.
He attends our games?
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f*** rob Jones he'd only play same side, it needs a big shake up, and quick wellens copps Middleton mc ffs need I name anymore it's not coaching there past it and not good enough, ffs wake up smell the coffee
Until the injured players come back we have no options to change the team anyway! So what imaginary shake-up could we possibly do? So in the short-term it's about getting the best out of the players we have got so we don't get embarrassed every week. Jones can do that.
and is there injured players to replace the 4ive mentiond
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Redfern is unemployed. He just spends his time watching us play, all due diligence done already.
He attends our games?
Yes sits in the East Stand, was there a few times towards the end of last season and the two games this.
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Redfern is unemployed. He just spends his time watching us play, all due diligence done already.
He attends our games?
Yes sits in the East Stand, was there a few times towards the end of last season and the two games this.
That's interesting. As I said Dean Smith would be my first choice but I wouldn't be dissapointed with Redfern.
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to all pd lovers don't worry we're only 3pts of play offs :chair:
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Redfern is unemployed. He just spends his time watching us play, all due diligence done already.
It seems the right fit for me too. Anything but Paul.
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Jones is the manager in waiting
COYR
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Jones is a number 2 or 3.
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Jones is the manager in waiting
COYR
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Jones is a number 2 or 3.
Based on what? There's nothing to show that he will or wont be a good manager...
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Redfearn would be a good call, would get our team playing good football and has tactical nous that PD lacks.
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Idd go for Gareth ainsworth from Wycombe, he's done a great job their if not then Stuart grey for me
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Is Colin in a job at the moment?
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Colin very nearly got the job a few years ago
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My loathing for Colin has been superceded by that for Steve Cotterill.
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Colin very nearly got the job a few years ago
How close and when?
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Stuart Gray is a great shout
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Stuart Gray is a great shout
+1 Didn't think about him tbh.
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Stuart Gray is a great shout
yes another manager with a great home record :-)
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Stuart Gray is a great shout
yes another manager with a great home record :-)
35.71 win % with Wednesday. An average team in a strong league. He's a very strong candidate, a lot stronger than Redfern infact.
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Stuart Gray is a great shout
yes another manager with a great home record :-)
35.71 win % with Wednesday. An average team in a strong league. He's a very strong candidate, a lot stronger than Redfern infact.
How much would he cost the club in salary compared to Redfearn? Wouldn't he command a higher fee?
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The fee doesn't matter as long as we get value for money.
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The fee doesn't matter as long as we get value for money.
Wouldn't the club have a salary ceiling for the manager which they wouldn't break. Getting rid of BH suggests there isn't a load of money in the coffers to bring in a proven manager who would command a high salary.
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Probably Les but that wasn't what I meant. We may need to pay the going rate for someone who can make us competitive.
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Probably Les but that wasn't what I meant. We may need to pay the going rate for someone who can make us competitive.
Agree, but would the Board be able to pay the going rate?
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Do they have a choice?
As the saying goes, you pay peanuts so you get monkeys!
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IDM, I agree with you. I hope the Board would bring in an experienced manager. JR went with the cheap choice in bringing in PD, and look where it has got us. Just worried that the Board will play it safe and bring in a cheap option of an unproven manager and history will repeat itself.
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Well lets wait and see what happens with PD.
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We'll all know what the board think with their next appointment. Experienced managers cost more than peanuts, so it's over to them. Hopefully sooner than later.
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Jones is the manager in waiting
COYR
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Jones is a number 2 or 3.
Based on what? There's nothing to show that he will or wont be a good manager...
Exactly, a leap into the dark based on his captaincy. Is that what we are wanting?
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Jones is the manager in waiting
COYR
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Jones is a number 2 or 3.
Based on what? There's nothing to show that he will or wont be a good manager...
Exactly, a leap into the dark based on his captaincy. Is that what we are wanting?
A leap in the dark! So you're suggesting in his time at the club he's gained no knowledge about the squad, or in his time managing the youth squad he's gained no managerial skills, or he hasn't displayed clear leadership qualities? Give over.
Neil Redfearn's name has popped up on here because of the hive-mind. Someone pointed out he was at a few games and now everyone is saying his name. Does anyone have any clear knowledge about his managerial credentials? Doubt it. That is a leap into the dark.
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Jones is the manager in waiting
COYR
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Jones is a number 2 or 3.
Based on what? There's nothing to show that he will or wont be a good manager...
Exactly, a leap into the dark based on his captaincy. Is that what we are wanting?
Worked when we brought in Dave Penney, why should it not work this time?
COYR
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Jones is the manager in waiting
COYR
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Jones is a number 2 or 3.
Based on what? There's nothing to show that he will or wont be a good manager...
Exactly, a leap into the dark based on his captaincy. Is that what we are wanting?
Worked when we brought in Dave Penney, why should it not work this time?
COYR
It's worked at countless others clubs as well but everyone automatically thinks you need to go for a manager with a 'name'. It's tosh.
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Stuart Gray is a great shout
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Agreed wholeheartedly! I've supported PD through thick and thin and thought (maybe with more hope than expectation) that he would improve. I like the bloke having had good conversations with him at Rosso pre-season in his first season and at the KM this season but I'm afraid I have now lost the faith. So disappointing after pre-season as I was quite excited with some performances (Sunderland & wolves esp) but back to the inconsistency of last season! Frustrated to say the least.
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We will go for the cheapest option, whoever that might be.
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It's worked at clubs and failed at clubs, I think we need experience now
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It's worked at clubs and failed at clubs, I think we need experience now
Who though?
I'm not against RJ having a chance at all, look at Garry Monk.
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I'm inclined to agree, although in Jones we do have someone who can hold the fort until we appoint the right man.
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I'd spend money on smith and o kelly.
I think the board will appoint someone like cough though
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I'd spend money on smith and o kelly.
I think the board will appoint someone like cough though
That'll stick in the throat of many
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certainly don't agree jones,remember penney had walker to lean on and that helped I don't see anybody at the club to guide jones thro,my choice would be brian deane itching for a chance in this country maybe with jones.that could be the cheap option the rovers will look for.other names that have been talked about would cost
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I'd spend money on smith and o kelly.
I think the board will appoint someone like cough though
That'll stick in the throat of many
He's on holiday. In catarrh I think.
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certainly don't agree jones,remember penney had walker to lean on and that helped I don't see anybody at the club to guide jones thro,my choice would be brian deane itching for a chance in this country maybe with jones.that could be the cheap option the rovers will look for.other names that have been talked about would cost
errr anyone thought of
wellens & Jones
not jones & wellens
feel certain one day wellens will become a manager
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Worked when we brought in Dave Penney, why should it not work this time?
COYR
We were in the Conference - a totally different skillset needed. Whilst he just about made it to League 1 level, penney would have been slaughtered in the Championship. We are needing someone who can potentially straddle the 2nd and 3rd tier effectively.
A leap in the dark! So you're suggesting in his time at the club he's gained no knowledge about the squad, or in his time managing the youth squad he's gained no managerial skills, or he hasn't displayed clear leadership qualities? Give over........
"Managing" the youth squad is a start. Knowledge of the squad in terms of being a fellow player and captain - could just as easily get in the way as be a benefit. A fresh manager can probably more easily cut through the crap. He's a leader as a captain, which is nothing like in the same ball park as being a manager.
I love the bloke for what he is, I don't think he's one for the managers job, but could be a handy number two for an incoming appointment, though as club captain he is in his optimal positionalready IMO. Anyone got anything to show he has made wise managerial type decisions?
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Dave took us out of the conference and out of league 2 into the division we are in now don't forget.
COYR
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Any problem in giving Jones 5 games to see how we do?
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Who knows what is the best move :)
It could be argued having someone in as "see how he does" for 5 games is throwing away 5 games, and that 5 games doesn't allow anyone a crack of the whip.
DP guided us to League 1 - one of the all time heros of the club. But he was sacked because it was becoming obvious he'd reached his limit and JR had aspirations.
I think someone mentioned Brian McDermott. Could be pricey, but worth it I reckon.
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Who knows what is the best move :)
It could be argued having someone in as "see how he does" for 5 games is throwing away 5 games, and that 5 games doesn't allow anyone a crack of the whip.
DP guided us to League 1 - one of the all time heros of the club. But he was sacked because it was becoming obvious he'd reached his limit and JR had aspirations.
I think someone mentioned Brian McDermott. Could be pricey, but worth it I reckon.
I think you might have said one word that would rule him out.
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Am I imagining it, but didn't Rob Jones form part of the partnership along with BF which got us promoted as Champions? Admittedly the team was created with no little help from Mr Saunders but it still needed the leadership for the 2nd half of the season.
So a shot in the dark, untested at this level - mmmmmm.
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certainly don't agree jones,remember penney had walker to lean on and that helped I don't see anybody at the club to guide jones thro,my choice would be brian deane itching for a chance in this country maybe with jones.that could be the cheap option the rovers will look for.other names that have been talked about would cost
Penney woulddn't have taken notice of that clown. My 13 yr old daughter has more of a clue about football than him & she hates football.
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We will go for the cheapest option, whoever that might be.
This, sadly.
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surprised you said that Bessie red,penny and walker was a good pair for the rovers and mickey certainly helped penny on the road to rovers initial success and nobody can deny that.whats gone off with mickey and the supporters since I don't know and to be honest I don't care.
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Gary Megson, or Glynn Snodin, NOT Rob Jones
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Gary Megson, or Glynn Snodin, NOT Rob Jones
Not Gary Megson f*** that!
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Why not Gary Megson? He is experienced and has been successful in his time , a proven manager
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Why not Gary Megson? He is experienced and has been successful in his time , a proven manager
The football we played under Saunders will look like Barcelona compared to the stuff Megsons teams play.
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Any problem in giving Jones 5 games to see how we do?
Has to be better than what we've got.
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It would appear that if PD is shown the door and we get a new bloke in that straight away about half the fans will say he is crap and shouldn't have been appointed.
The merry go round will start again.
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Thought I would be ahead of the game....
Redfearn out! We only got him because he was cheap. (Don't let him coach penalties either, the one I saw him take at Notts County when with us nearly grazed the floodlight pylon!).
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It's worked at clubs and failed at clubs, I think we need experience now
Who though?
I'm not against RJ having a chance at all, look at Garry Monk.
The thing is ''Monk has got into the HABIT of winning'', that always covers up any weaknesses.
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Megson,, is that a joke?
We may aswell get big Ron
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With the combination of our financial position (not knocking it) and Megson we would struggle to sign players. I know of pro players who have avoided signing for a club that Megson was the manager of at the time.
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certainly don't agree jones,remember penney had walker to lean on and that helped I don't see anybody at the club to guide jones thro,my choice would be brian deane itching for a chance in this country maybe with jones.that could be the cheap option the rovers will look for.other names that have been talked about would cost
errr anyone thought of
wellens & Jones
not jones & wellens
feel certain one day wellens will become a manager
so here we are again almost 4 years on please can we "nick " a manager just as ours was "nicked"
better late than never so lets have Wellens forgot what SM said about him at the time.
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Well it's getting on for 6 years since CLH suggested Wellens would make a manager - in red ink which seemed a bit obvious at the time. Could
but if the club had taken CLH's advice at the time then the marquee prediction made on here would never have happened courtesy of the massey ferguson.
Loans
lets hope Wellens can get one or two loanees from Man U (even a son of a gun one day ?) and raid Leicester City youth
Centre forward "The Admiral" who played against Rovers for Leicester last season went on loan to Wycombe in the Championship .. not sure what happened to the rest of the Leicester "kids" as they dont have easy to remember names
could say Rovers have entered into wellens syndrome ?? as opposed to
https://litfl.com/wellens-syndrome-ecg-library/
.