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Title: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: Upton Rover on October 06, 2015, 09:36:03 pm
Sweet fa. Once again this man can only do the same as PD. Not a clue how to pick the correct formation. Our midfield were rubbish. Infact the WHOLE team were RUBBISH. Will need a good manager to get this shower of shite to play basic football.
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: graingrover on October 06, 2015, 09:37:23 pm
Apply for the job pal you are obviously superior.
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: RoversAlias on October 06, 2015, 09:38:25 pm
I wouldn't worry about it, Jones is looking less and less likely to get it by the day.

Lee Clark was there tonight. If he is the new man, whether we want him or not, I hope he took a good look at what he might be about to inherit and is now thinking of 1000 ways to fix it.
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: IDM on October 06, 2015, 09:40:21 pm
How can you vouch for almost the same team getting decent results in the last 2 league games then, under Jones?

OK those results were the wrong way round compared to the performances, but we were not rubbish in either. 
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: Lytham Rover on October 06, 2015, 09:42:55 pm
I wouldn't worry about it, Jones is looking less and less likely to get it by the day.

Lee Clark was there tonight. If he is the new man, whether we want him or not, I hope he took a good look at what he might be about to inherit and is now thinking of 1000 ways to fix it.
As was Neil redfearn
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: Donnywolf on October 06, 2015, 09:44:21 pm
We need to take the positives from the game  :chair:
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: Lipsy on October 06, 2015, 09:45:30 pm
We'll get a reaction.  :chair:
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: RoversAlias on October 06, 2015, 09:46:38 pm
I wouldn't worry about it, Jones is looking less and less likely to get it by the day.

Lee Clark was there tonight. If he is the new man, whether we want him or not, I hope he took a good look at what he might be about to inherit and is now thinking of 1000 ways to fix it.
As was Neil redfearn

True. My point stands whichever name you put in that sentence though. The new manager has a lot to turn around and we need to start that turnaround as soon as our next game because it cannot be allowed to get much worse.
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: Upton Rover on October 06, 2015, 09:47:20 pm
How can you vouch for almost the same team getting decent results in the last 2 league games then, under Jones?

OK those results were the wrong way round compared to the performances, but we were not rubbish in either.
we were very, very lucky against Barnsley
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: IDM on October 06, 2015, 09:48:11 pm
I wouldn't worry about it, Jones is looking less and less likely to get it by the day.

Lee Clark was there tonight. If he is the new man, whether we want him or not, I hope he took a good look at what he might be about to inherit and is now thinking of 1000 ways to fix it.
As was Neil redfearn

True. My point stands whichever name you put in that sentence though. The new manager has a lot to turn around and we need to start that turnaround as soon as our next game because it cannot be allowed to get much worse.

What was the result in the last league fixture?
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: IDM on October 06, 2015, 09:49:24 pm
How can you vouch for almost the same team getting decent results in the last 2 league games then, under Jones?

OK those results were the wrong way round compared to the performances, but we were not rubbish in either.
we were very, very lucky against Barnsley

That's a bit of an exaggeration - we perhaps should have drawn vs Barnsley on performance, but then again we deserved to beat Swindon.  Results don't always follow performances.
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: jmt on October 06, 2015, 09:49:31 pm
It was a dire listen on player! But does show our current level. We're devoid of confidence ,ideas and skill. Hold onto your hair piece and fasten yourself in,it's gonna be a bumpy ride
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: RoversAlias on October 06, 2015, 09:49:41 pm
We won. Our only win in how many games? I'm honestly not getting on at the team or anything here, and I didn't go tonight I can only comment on the result. You cannot argue against the fact that we are in a real down spot at the moment and that things need to change on the pitch. That's all I'm saying.
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: IDM on October 06, 2015, 09:52:26 pm
We won. Our only win in how many games? I'm honestly not getting on at the team or anything here, and I didn't go tonight I can only comment on the result. You cannot argue against the fact that we are in a real down spot at the moment and that things need to change on the pitch. That's all I'm saying.

Can't we?

We need to improve - that's for certain.  But you cannot also argue that we haven't been more of a goal threat recently.  I'm not talking about tonight.
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: drfc1951 on October 06, 2015, 10:01:27 pm
Who ever is appointed,we as fans need to get behind him and the team 100%.Iknow some wont agree with who is appointed, but I am sure he will try his best to sort things out.
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: Askern_reds on October 06, 2015, 10:06:04 pm
Who ever is appointed,we as fans need to get behind him and the team 100%.Iknow some wont agree with who is appointed, but I am sure he will try his best to sort things out.
yes and for me they should say who it is no later than tomorrow tea time, the new man should be working with the players soon as, defeat against bradford could prove a catastrophe
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: bpoolrover on October 06, 2015, 10:10:48 pm
Idm I admire you loyalty to the club but we are woeful at the minute,were in a relegation scrap and playing pretty damn awful so far this season
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: Upton Rover on October 06, 2015, 10:12:28 pm
I am 100% behind the club, but when you buy a ticket and you watch rubbish you have a right to say what you think, anyone can see that our elderly midfield are at the moment embarrassing to watch, i watched some individuals on Saturday and if they put as much effort into the game as looking at their families, smiling and waving. They would do a lot better.
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: dickos1 on October 06, 2015, 10:15:20 pm
Nonsense
Yiu can criticise the quality maybe but no way can you criticise the effort on Saturday,  effort is the main reason we won
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: RoversAlias on October 06, 2015, 11:06:00 pm
We won. Our only win in how many games? I'm honestly not getting on at the team or anything here, and I didn't go tonight I can only comment on the result. You cannot argue against the fact that we are in a real down spot at the moment and that things need to change on the pitch. That's all I'm saying.

Can't we?

We need to improve - that's for certain.  But you cannot also argue that we haven't been more of a goal threat recently.  I'm not talking about tonight.

There is no denying it. We are a former Championship team with ambitions from the board, personnel and fans to compete for a top 6 spot, yet are sat in the relegation zone and have been exhibiting relegation form for months. We are playing generally quite badly, with many players underperforming on their best level. I don't see any way to deny this. Us defeating Barnsley does not prove otherwise, and there is nothing else I can see to suggest we aren't in a bit of a pickle.

I'm glad we are now slightly more of an attacking threat but it has actually come at the expense of any kind of cohesive midfield under Jones.

The arrival of a new manager should hopefully be a catalyst for some positive change both in the way we approach things on the pitch and on the training ground. I hope that's the case, whether Redfearn is appointed, Clark, Evans, Fergie or whoever.
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: Copps is Magic on October 06, 2015, 11:11:33 pm
Sweet fa. Once again this man can only do the same as PD. Not a clue how to pick the correct formation. Our midfield were rubbish. Infact the WHOLE team were RUBBISH. Will need a good manager to get this shower of shite to play basic football.

Have you seen the names in contention? There isn't a good manager among them. Good luck on getting your wish. We're going to be in exactly the same position in 5 weeks time.
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: RedJ on October 06, 2015, 11:33:17 pm
It's embarrassing how some people are absolutely desperate for Rob Jones to fail.

Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: Copps is Magic on October 06, 2015, 11:44:28 pm
It's embarrassing how some people are absolutely desperate for Rob Jones to fail.

Yep. We're crap - everyone knows that by now.  Therefore, someone is eventually going to need TIME to turn it round but our fans were certainly not willing to give Jones that. This 5 game period  was never meant to be a complete overhaul and turnaround, more of a test period to see if Jones could have any discernible affect on the team.

If you take away the bluster he certainly has changed things. The style of play is different to what Dickov played, we've played well in short patches (The Swindon performance was pretty decent) and he's brought in Anderson which is a good acquisition. For some reason though some still persist with the idea that some miracle man is going to come in and turn it round completely! And what will happen? We'll get Clarke. Be careful what you wish for.
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: dickos1 on October 06, 2015, 11:57:45 pm
It's not just rob jones though, it's whoever the manager is, 
Expectations and standards of many of our supporters are wrong
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: Colin C No.3 on October 07, 2015, 05:17:39 am
Is it wrong to expect your team to play a decent standard of football & get the positive results that would follow that?

Is it wrong to have expectations of a league position nearer the play offs than the relegation zone given the 'the positivity' coming from the boardroom?
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: Filo on October 07, 2015, 07:48:27 am
It doesn't matter who gets the job, until the lack of energy and movement in the midfield is addressed we will struggle and the strikers will be feeding off scraps
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: tommy toes on October 07, 2015, 08:03:46 am
Doesn't matter who the manager is at the mo. The players we've got aren't good enough. Dickov didn't have a clue and the mess he's left will take some sorting out. Loads of decent players available in the summer and he signs the likes of ATS and McKenzie.
Just hope whoever takes over can rebuild the team without us getting relegated.
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: djoftherovers1 on October 07, 2015, 08:14:23 am
this whole situation is a shambles, the board have took way too long to appoint a new manager if they wanted jones they should have done it weeks ago. We need stability and this board are doing their best to cause unrest in the camp.. the players claim they want jones and are fighting for him, all I will say is id hate to see how they performed if they didn't want him to get the job.
We have too many shit players who will be found out under a new manager and like it or not coppinger is right at top of that list.
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: graingrover on October 07, 2015, 08:21:09 am
I think only Jones can turn this around and build a proper platform again this season . Leon Clark is certainly a weak person in man management terms .. even pathetic at Blackpool and Brum. Redfearn or another can rebuild too but babies will then be thrown out with bath water I think .
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: IDM on October 07, 2015, 07:43:52 pm
Idm I admire you loyalty to the club but we are woeful at the minute,were in a relegation scrap and playing pretty damn awful so far this season

It is quite clear we have plenty room for improvement, but the fact that we have performed well at times, and have the likes of Forrester and McCullough returning, then Tyson to come, so we have the players - they just need managing well.

As for our current league position, of course that needs to improve.  However as perverse as it sounds we could actually go up a couple of places on Saturday without playing, and then have a game in hand.  Win a couple of games on the bounce and the table will look a lot better.  Of course we could lose 2 and stay in the bottom 4.

Let's see how things change with the new permanent manager, shall we?
Title: Re: how did we do tonight Mr Jones?
Post by: Upton Rover on October 07, 2015, 08:38:25 pm
We dont win a few games on the bounce, do we? If we dont get a new manager in soon i guess we could become the next Yeovil. I hope i am way off the mark, but at this present time its going that way.