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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: mrfrostsdad on October 10, 2015, 01:19:46 pm
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How come Rotherham can go through a 'meticulous' recruitment process with over 50 applicants and appoint a manager in 11 days, whilst we're still messing about almost 5 weeks down the line? And appoint someone who we allegedly approached before Dickov got the sack?
I'm all for taking our time and appointing the right man but this is getting ridiculous now.
I'm even more convinced now they wanted to give the job to Jones and feel they can't because results and performances, in general, have not been good enough.
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It's a bloody joke Redfearn was the one I wanted now he has gone to millers we will end up with bargain basement Lee Clark
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Maybe he wasn't the one the Board wanted? Maybe NR didn't want us afterall?
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Its all a joke. We always have to ball things up. Disgrace
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Because the club decided that this the way they feel produces the best and most appropriate manager
It is exactly the same process that we undertook last time but as that was the close season there wasn't the pressure
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Its all a joke. We always have to ball things up. Disgrace
Always, always, always. I'm sick of it.
I'm going to microwave the cat, whip myself then stamp my feet REALLY hard.
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Its all a joke. We always have to ball things up. Disgrace
This is typical of exaggeration on this forum.
"joke" and "disgrace"
Why is it a joke or disgraceful to have due diligence in selecting a new manager?
I can understand fans being frustrated and/or disappointed at the time this is taking, but this choice of words is a little OTT don't you think?
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Clark or Ferguson bloody hell God help us
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Not OTT at all just our club all over sorry but true
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Clark or Ferguson bloody hell God help us
There are only 2 candidates are there?
And yes, "disgrace" is OTT.
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Yes I think there is only 2 candidates
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Some folks are sounding like Verucca Salt. Wah wah f**king wah.
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Yes I think there is only 2 candidates
On what grounds? Forum rumours, latest bookies etc?
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OK let's see who we get
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Will Rotherham have done the right thing if he takes them down?
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That's a silly question my friend
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OK let's see who we get
we may very well get one of those two, but that won't mean they were the only ones in with a chance.
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Sorry don't agree cheapest option I agree board wanted Jones but results have been rubbish for him
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Sorry don't agree cheapest option I agree board wanted Jones but results have been rubbish for him
So, if you include NR and Jones that is only 4 interviewees? Do you really think that is the case?
Don't forget how much the summer transfers were done behind the scenes - why not the manager post too? We may well get someone no one has mentioned yet.
But if we get Ferguson, that doesn't mean that those of you who say it is either him or Clark, were right.
And what do you mean by cheap option? The owners/board are astute businessmen, and if they think they should pay a few grand more for the right manager, then I am sure they will.
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We are a club in the bottom four of league 1. We have a side that have not been good all season. Who ever we attract at this time as got a big job on their hands to get us playing better.
The CEO and owners should have made this decision in the summer then the new man could have brought in his players to suit the style he wanted to play. Instead we allowed PD to bring in good players on paper but could not put round pegs in round holes.
Let's see who we get the choice maybe limited we are not a big hitter managers can pick and choose same as our board.
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It's a bloody joke Redfearn was the one I wanted now he has gone to millers we will end up with bargain basement Lee Clark
Hahahahahaha, just because he's the one you wanted that makes the whole thing a joke?
It's like kicking off getting bought a car for Christmas but not getting the one you want. Jesus wept.
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If lee Clark gets the job then I won't be attending the keepmoat. 6 weeks to employ a degenerate that shouldn't even be in contention for a Sunday league side
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See what you've started frosty. That tie up the club has with The Samaritans is quite apt.
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Barry, I just find it very hard to believe that there hasn't been some sort of disruption to the process. And I would evidence that comment thus: ok, give Jones a game or two to see how things went, and if things picked up markedly maybe give him tha job to the end of the season or whatever. Now that hasn't happened so let's go to plan b. I think - and obviously I don't know anything at all - but I still think that plan b was Neil Redfern ( I reckoned he was plan a at one stage but maybe not) problem is, plan b has now told us to bugger off and gone to Rotherham instead for whatever reason. Maybe because he reckons Rotherham are a better bet, or maybe because we've pratted him around too much.
Now obviously, all that is speculation. But one thing that is not speculation is the absolutely bloody ridiculous amount of time it's taking us to get a manager. In my opinion, for what it's worth, we should have had someone in after the Barnsley game as we don't have a game today. Or maybe they still wanted to give Jones the job at that stage but after another inept performance at York have decided not to.
For what it's worth, I'd be delighted with Ferguson. Done it more than once at this level
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How is Lee Clark any more bargain basement than Redfearn? Redfearn has little to no experience. Rotherham have taken a big risk on him. Odds are against him being in his job next year.
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Just shows you can't have an opinion on here :headbang:
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That's a silly question my friend
I presume you'd still have wanted Redfearn appointed here if that happened or would that be a 'silly question' you can't answer too?
Appoint in haste, repent at leisure.
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Just shows you can't have an opinion on here :headbang:
Yes you can have an opinion, you need to accept that people are allowed to challenge that opinion if they don't agree with you
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Just shows you can't have an opinion on here :headbang:
Rubbish.
Anyone can have an opinion on here, but if you post one that appears illogical or OTT, be prepared to be questioned on it..
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Yes fair enough but why so many sarcy comments can't we discuss without sarcasm
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Yes fair enough but why so many sarcy comments can't we discuss without sarcasm
That's a silly question my friend....
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Can't anyone have an opinion on here then?
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I agree with you on length of time to get it sorted out, just not on Redfearn.
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Yes fair enough but why so many sarcy comments can't we discuss without sarcasm
When someone is basically kicking their feet and folding their arms crying then there's not a lot of discussion that can be had.
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Who cares what Rotherham did or didn't do or how long it's taken them??
I couldn't care less, if we get the right manager and we have a successful season then it can take a another 4 weeks for me
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If rotherscum go down and we finish mid table then surely we got the better manager
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Opinions everywhere :boxing: :boxing:
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Who cares what Rotherham did or didn't do or how long it's taken them??
I couldn't care less, if we get the right manager and we have a successful season then it can take a another 4 weeks for me
I care. We're in the bottom four and it should have been sorted by now. As I posted on another thread: we must be the only club in the country who hasn't got the next manager 'tapped up' before we sack the current one.
You know what? Come the end of the season we may finish outside the play offs, or God forbid, get relegated. This fannying around may be costing us points that could be vital at some stage in the coming months.
But as I recall you didn't want Dickov sacking, when in actual fact he should have gone ages ago and maybe we may not be in this position now
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mfd I understand your concern over the managerial appointment timescale, but it is now 2 weeks to the day since we lost at Sheffield.
In those 2 weeks we have played 2 league games and won 4 points. Would we have got 6 instead had a new manager have been in place earlier?
Yes it could be argued that a manager could have been appointed even before that, however those 4 points could eventually prove to be vital.
And, pedantic as it sounds, we are not in the bottom 4 tonight and we have a game in hand over several rivals..
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So we should be happy that we're 2 points off the bottom and 14 off the top? Sorry I'm not.
Yes, we beat Barnsley last weekend. And we were lucky to do so. Can't comment on the Swindon game as I was at work. And then we perform like a set of amateurs at York. Ok, it was the JPT but that's not the point. Jones is not the man to take us forward. It's a bit too cosy for everyone I suspect. We need a new broom to kick an awful lot of arses.
As I pointed out in the initial post: Rotherham had over 50 applicants and carried out a meticulous recruitment process and appointed a manager in less than two weeks. Liverpool did it in a couple of days. Ok, at the other end of the scale from us but this is getting ridiculous. In my opinion obviously
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Redfearn was one of my favourites but that's because I'm disadvantaged, like everybody else, by not knowing who's applied and who's been approached. There'll be a reason it's taken this long but why assume it's a bad reason?
There's no logical reason why they would go for a 'cheap' option. If, after the time it's taken, I'll be as miffed as everyone else if we end up with Jones or Lee Clarke. The board are not stupid, the appointment of the manager is a massive decision to get right with all the financial risks attached to it. Now if they are on the scent of the right man (who may be in work for all we know) and this man has the potential to lift this club up another level and excite people, then take as long as it takes!
For once, try and assume the best rather than the worst, you may find it therapeutic.
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So we should be happy that we're 2 points off the bottom and 14 off the top? Sorry I'm not.
Yes, we beat Barnsley last weekend. And we were lucky to do so. Can't comment on the Swindon game as I was at work. And then we perform like a set of amateurs at York. Ok, it was the JPT but that's not the point. Jones is not the man to take us forward. It's a bit too cosy for everyone I suspect. We need a new broom to kick an awful lot of arses.
As I pointed out in the initial post: Rotherham had over 50 applicants and carried out a meticulous recruitment process and appointed a manager in less than two weeks. Liverpool did it in a couple of days. Ok, at the other end of the scale from us but this is getting ridiculous. In my opinion obviously
No, the league position is not good enough, period.
As for the 2 home games, I went to both - the results should have been win vs Swindon and draw vs Barnsley, based on the performances, but points are points whether deserved or not.
No problem with your opinion, but at least the club has been consistent with its schedule and updates.
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So we should be happy that we're 2 points off the bottom and 14 off the top? Sorry I'm not.
Yes, we beat Barnsley last weekend. And we were lucky to do so. Can't comment on the Swindon game as I was at work. And then we perform like a set of amateurs at York. Ok, it was the JPT but that's not the point. Jones is not the man to take us forward. It's a bit too cosy for everyone I suspect. We need a new broom to kick an awful lot of arses.
As I pointed out in the initial post: Rotherham had over 50 applicants and carried out a meticulous recruitment process and appointed a manager in less than two weeks. Liverpool did it in a couple of days. Ok, at the other end of the scale from us but this is getting ridiculous. In my opinion obviously
Yes but do you want the best manager available and interested - or just the first one?
Oldham sacked their manager around the same time we did, played 4 games under Dunn as caretaker, none of which they won, yet gave him the job and he immediately lost his first game.
Peterborough- who appointed before we did - decided the best managerial candidate was Graham Westley.
Redfearn was so commited to us that the first chance of anything bigger or better, he was off.
I can't help but wonder if it is just a coincidence it is the international break this weekend or if there is something else going on. Any current international managers (or assistant managers) thinking they have gone as far as they can and looking to move on? From Scotland maybe?
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Maybe the delay is because
The chairman, and the board of directors have to be together as a panel to choose the new manager, they will have diaries to work round, Tony Stewart at Rotherham has all the time in the world to decide who he wants.
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Does this mean that Rotherham have appointed the right manager - only time will tell. Act in haste, repent in leisure.
COYR