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Viking Chat => Lucky Pint => Topic started by: bobjimwilly on October 27, 2015, 09:32:30 am
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Rovers haven't beaten Millwall since November 2010, and haven't won at the New Den since February 2008. In the last 30 years we have only beaten the Lions twice. Maybe tonight is a night to buck the trend?
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haven't won at the New Den since February 2008.
and what a game that was.. I think we had 30 efforts on goal that day, winning 3-0 with Greeny's superb volley the pick of the bunch. That was only a few days after we had 27 chances against Hartlepool.
I would settle for 10 efforts on goal tonight, as long as we score enough!
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@drfc_official: #DRFC STARTING XI: Stuckmann, Butler, Evina, McCullough, Lund, Taylor-Sinclair, Wellens, Coppinger (c), Stewart, Middleton, Tyson
@drfc_official: #DRFC BENCH: Marosi, Forrester, Williams, N'Guessan, Gobern, Keegan, Whitehouse https://t.co/TEi12Y3qKx
COYR
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Does not fill me with confidence but hope I'm wrong
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@drfc_official: #DRFC STARTING XI: Stuckmann, Butler, Evina, McCullough, Lund, Taylor-Sinclair, Wellens, Coppinger (c), Stewart, Middleton, Tyson
@drfc_official: #DRFC BENCH: Marosi, Forrester, Williams, N'Guessan, Gobern, Keegan, Whitehouse https://t.co/TEi12Y3qKx
COYR
That looks like Evina and Lund are wingbacks with Butler, Taylor-Sinclair and McCoulough centre backs
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3-5-2. Hopefully we can get a point, that looks like what were aiming for.
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Is Keegan not fit?
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Is Keegan not fit?
He is never fit, proves yet again a defensive midfield player with strength and pace should have been signed in the summer. Along with a right back with the same attributes.
Yet we signed Chaplow who as yet is not up to playing central midfield in league one.
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3-5-2. Hopefully we can get a point, that looks like what were aiming for.
Noticed that the U18 played this system against Barnsley the other day
COYR
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Good evening everyone! Settling down nicely in my chair to follow the match.
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Jesus Christ
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Awesome
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f**king hell another mistake 0-1
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Here we go again... gifting a goal.
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Very sad times these are.
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I shouldn't have bothered coming back from holiday...
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We really are beginning to look like a full weight relegation side.
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Brilliant absolutely effing brilliant - if it wasn't going to be hard enough as it was, we shoot ourselves in the foot
COYR
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Mistake by who
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Wtf
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@MillwallFC: 5 | Great start! Morison pounces on another weak pass at the back and does enough to get the ball past Stuckmann and in! (1-0) #Millwall
How hard is it to pass a ball?
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2-0
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fantastic 2-0 crap once again at the set pieces
COYR
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Just seen it on sky. What a f**kin joke
Now 2-0
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2 t**tting nil
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:headbang:
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2-0 game over!
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Taking the f***king piss out of us supporters now!!!!
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Absolute f**king shambles.
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Oh dear. Not pretty is it. Wtf is going on?
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2nd came from a corner
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What we going for? 4..5..6..7-0?
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Total meltdown, in freefall, we are really in the mire.
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I'm afraid we have a squad full of players with Andy Watson-sized hearts. Look at the squad, with Jones out, and ask yourself who you would want at the side of you in a scrap.
No-f**king-one. They are a bunch of lightweights who have no desire between them.
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3-5-2. Hopefully we can get a point, that looks like what were aiming for.
b*llocks, we don't go out aiming for a draw.
I am not sure what Forrester, Keegan and N'Guessan have got to do to get a start, especially after the poor efforts from the others on Saturday?
Although as it stands now, I would happily take a draw!!
WTF is going on?
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Just seen both goals on sky. Schoolboys. Unbelievable
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Look on the bright side we will have the best stadium in league 2
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Clear out in January definitely and let's see some fresh faces, a few big names aswell I'd get rid of. Why is Copps captain by the way? Never been a man with a set of balls to shout at the rest of the team.
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Well we'll find out what they're made of now BST.
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I wonder if Ferguson is regretting taking the job?
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Well we've had a chance and missed from 4 yards out
COYR
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I might exempt Tyson from that criticism. The rest of the Kitsons are going through the motions.
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Shite.
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Well we've had a chance and missed from 4 yards out
COYR
And thats one big difference, we can't take our chances
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Look on the bright side we will have the best stadium in league 2
Jesus Christ folks it is far too early to talk like that, it may take DF a while to turn the side round but there are plenty of games left this season..
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Dickov has put us a cracking squad together.cant see how df can sort this out in the shot term :thumbdown:
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We can't have to much of a clear out as most I think are on 2 year contracts,think the board need to change the strategy of signing longer contracts,it's all well and good on younger players but players like Gary Mac butler on a 3 year chaplow on a 2 year is pointless
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Every time we concede a corner I fear the worst.
Yet again we can't defend set pieces.
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to be fair to pd quite a few posters on here thought we would be challenging for promotion with this garbage
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We are in the relegation zone, and having relegation form. Big ask for DF to turn this around. I don't blame him, it is his incompetent predecessor who is to blame, PD.
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This has got to be the worst we've been in years. It's not fun anymore
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I just hope the players have got more bottle than some of the fans
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We are in the relegation zone, and having relegation form. Big ask for DF to turn this around. I don't blame him, it is his incompetent predecessor who is to blame, PD.
Agreed, and it could be a good few weeks before DF gets us out of the bottom 4..
This has got to be the worst we've been in years. It's not fun anymore
Hopefully just a bad spell though - wasn't that long ago we were enjoying that victory over Barnsley was it?
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A lot of people said Dickov should be doing better with this squad,
Jones had us looking better, but most people said he wasn't good enough, should be careful what you wish for
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We are in the relegation zone, and having relegation form. Big ask for DF to turn this around. I don't blame him, it is his incompetent predecessor who is to blame, PD.
Agreed, and it could be a good few weeks before DF gets us out of the bottom 4..
This has got to be the worst we've been in years. It's not fun anymore
Hopefully just a bad spell though - wasn't that long ago we were enjoying that victory over Barnsley was it?
Would that be the Barnsley currently residing in the same relegation zone?
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The players seem to have given up on this season already which would be fine if we couldn't get in the playoffs or we were safe from relegation
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Doncaster Rovers FC @drfc_official · 10s11 seconds ago
24' CHANCE again for Rovers as Copps drives into the box, he drills the ball at Tyson who somehow misses the target from 4 yards! 2-0 #drfc
I think we need to get closer before we shoot, that's 2 we've missed from 4 yards out!
COYR
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It would Filo, but the point was about "fun". It was only one game, and yes that isn't enough, but a couple of bad defeats and performances and all that is forgotten..
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Fergie must be livid.
On the upside apperently some of our attacking play has been positive
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A lot of people said Dickov should be doing better with this squad,
Jones had us looking better, but most people said he wasn't good enough, should be careful what you wish for
Confidence is gone. Look at Stuckmann as an example how he started and how he's ended up.
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Another mistake at the back and we should be 3 nil down - Come on DF get it sorted!
COYR
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Just seen the first goal, the only thing missing is the gift wrap and ribbons!
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A lot of people said Dickov should be doing better with this squad,
Jones had us looking better, but most people said he wasn't good enough, should be careful what you wish for
Confidence is gone. Look at Stuckmann as an example how he started and how he's ended up.
If it wasn't for Stuckmann... we'd be 4 down by now !
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Millwall missed a right sitter there.
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What is it with players not able to keep their feet, FFS wear longer f**king studs!!!
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Need to get Keegs on at half time
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Need to get Keegs on at half time
Should have started IMHO..
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Get him on for McCulloch
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33' And again.... Morison's free header goes over the bar, should have scored 2-0 #drfc
f**k me
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What did people expect? You wanted a manager who would play an open game, this is the result.
In our first six league games under Dickov we conceded five goals. We have already conceded seven in two games and 10 minutes under DF. He can't and never has been able to arrange a team to defend.
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Everytime the ball goes into our box we have kittens, we'll get well beat tonight, can't keep on giving the free efforts on goal
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Should be about 6 already
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Doncaster Rovers FC @drfc_official · 2m2 minutes ago
35' What a ball through the middle from Harry Middleton to Copps. He's unmarked in the area but miss-times his touch. Real chance 2-0 #drfc
What we cannot do in defence we cannot do in attack as well
COYR
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Should be about 6 already
According to BBC stats Millwall have had 6 efforts, should they have really scored them all?
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Should be about 6 already
According to BBC stats Millwall have had 6 efforts, should they have really scored them all?
Quite probably yes
COYR
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They've taken some of their chances we've taken none of ours
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Millwall corner brace yourselves
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Nowt happen then?
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Half time and its 2-0 we are lucky its only 2 nil
COYR
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Ferguson's changing things too quickly. We haven't got the players. Bad defence and no goalscorers.
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Just looked at the stats for Arsenals game. 72% possession and they're losing 2-0 as well. I blame Dickov.
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According to the BBC website we've had the majority of possession, 49:51%! Really?
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According to the BBC website we've had the majority of possession, 49:51%! Really?
We had the most possession most of the game on Saturday according to them and look what happened there.
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We have scored 10 goals in 15 games. We cannot really count the joke goal. Nobody has scored fewer goals than us.
Yes we are very dodgy in defence but in attack we are even worse.
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It's up to the players to stand up and be counted, so far not one of them has stepped up to the plate!
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Folks are saying Millwall could have scored more, yet no one comments on Tyson having a header miss the goal at the end of the half?
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While the stats agree with what u say Yorkie,I'm not sure it tells the whole story,the defenders lump the ball forward most of the time giving them no chance to do out with ball
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Clutching at straws there idm lol😜
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We're gonna win 3-2, we're gonna win 3-2, we're gonna win 3-2. Threeee twoooooo!
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Clutching at straws there idm lol😜
No not at all.
And I am not denying our current poor form either.
But what irks me is the hyperbole and over reaction of our supporters. Millwall have an effort on goal - should score, but when we have an effort, nothing said.
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Tyson should know better, he is paid to score not miss.
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Millwall should be 5 up and apart from Evina the rest don't look like footballers and yes I'm sat watching this sorry excuse.
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Sky Sports said one of most open games he's seen
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What about the chances we've missed dearne
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Even Tyson DVR? He was the only one earning a wage on Saturday...
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Terrific Doncaster according to bloke on sky
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McCullough misses one and Evina has one blocked,. Should be 6-4 then, eh?
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Forester about to come on
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Wellens Off
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Could be worse.
We could be Arsenal fans. 3-0 down v Wensdeh. Football Heaven should be a hoot tomorrow night.... yawn.
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Chelsea LOSING 1-0 TOO
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We are working our way back into this, it's not over yet...
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Doncaster Rovers FC @drfc_official · now5 seconds ago
56' SUB FOR ROVERS: Dany N'Guessan comes ON replacing Cameron Stewart
Not getting a good reception from the home fans is Dany
COYR
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About time Forrester and N'Guessan start to get a look in.
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Middleton according to the BBC had a header at very close range, yet it was too high. Was the lad standing on the goal line and still managed to not score?
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Middleton according to the BBC had a header at very close range, yet it was too high. Was the lad standing on the goal line and still managed to not score?
Those descriptions are often wrong..
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Sounds like we've had enough chances to get back on terms!
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Doncaster Rovers FC @drfc_official · 9s10 seconds ago
64' CLOSE: Middleton hits a screamer from 25 yards, it hits the side netting. 2-0 #drfc
COYR
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We still haven't had a short on target yet.
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An interesting stat
Paul Goodwin @paulgoodwinDFP · 13s13 seconds ago
Six games this month so far, #drfc have gone behind within 10 minutes in four of them.
COYR
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Could be worse.
We could be Arsenal fans. 3-0 down v Wensdeh. Football Heaven should be a hoot tomorrow night.... yawn.
Arsenal are joint top of the Premier League and beat Bayern Munich last week.
Where does this end for us?
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You can have very good chances without having shots on target
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On present form league 2
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You can have very good chances without having shots on target
Totally pointless if there is no end product.
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I just hope we can do what we did under SOD when we were bottom at Xmas then didn't lose another match to the end of the season.
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Football Heaven should be a hoot tomorrow night.... yawn.
We should phone in on mass to discuss the burning issues at Donny :scarf: :boxing: :scarf:
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We're gonna win 5-4!
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Football Heaven should be a hoot tomorrow night.... yawn.
We should phone in on mass to discuss the burning issues at Donny :scarf: :boxing: :scarf:
Bonfire night.....?
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owt actually happening at the game?
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owt actually happening at the game?
We go close
Doncaster Rovers FC @drfc_official 50s50 seconds ago
CLOSE: Harry Forrester hits one, it takes a massive deflection, Archer is left flat footed and Rovers win a corner 2-0 #drfc
COYR
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Its going to be very scary.
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What about the chances we've missed dearne
What about them? Not one on target. Second half has been a lot better to be fair.
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Tyson's just missed again.
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We're still comfortably in 4th place in the League 1 fair play stakes :cold:
Millwall now equal bottom.
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Obviously not on target but if they should be 5 up cause of their chances how many should we have scored?
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Rovers have played really well according to sky
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Need to get Keegs on at half time
Please not the "Keegan will be our saviour" call again. He's not gonna improve anything.
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We are harder to beat when Keegan plays
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I think the 2nd half gives us hope
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Daft first 8 minutes.
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How do you work that out still NO shots on target.
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We have now had more chances than Millwall, according to BBC stats..
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So far 8 shots and not one on target - we will not win owt if we cannot shoot straight
COYR
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How do you work that out still NO shots on target.
Performance levels, commitment, effort, that sort of thing?
Still needs to turn into goals soon though.
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Shame we didn't start the first half like the second
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So far 8 shots and not one on target - we will not win owt if we cannot shoot straight
COYR
Can't judge shots just on that stat. A few been close. Better a shot whistling past the upright than trickling in for a comfy save.
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What would u rather have? A 40 yard shot that the keeper puts his hat on (shot on target)or balls flying across the box players being clean through, obvious chances being created? (No shots on target)
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Shots on target is a crap stat
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Need to get Keegs on at half time
Please not the "Keegan will be our saviour" call again. He's not gonna improve anything.
Absolutely laughable. No coincidence that we fell apart last season at the end when he got injured.
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So far 8 shots and not one on target - we will not win owt if we cannot shoot straight
COYR
Can't judge shots just on that stat. A few been close. Better a shot whistling past the upright than trickling in for a comfy save.
The keeper can fumble a trickling shot on target. If it's going wide does it matter. It won't end up in the net.
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Well that was crap - lost the game in the first 8 minutes. No shots on target but a better second half performance
Onwards and upwards
COYR
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Unfortunately the only stat that really counts is goals. Creating chances is good, but it makes no difference if 0 out of 8 are on target, or if all 8 are on target and saved easily.
Last time we won at Millwall we had 30 attempts and scored 3, so that meant 27 failed to succeed, whether on target or not. 27 goal chances where we failed. Got promoted that season too.
But for the fans' sakes, we need goals and wins and soon!!!!
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So far 8 shots and not one on target - we will not win owt if we cannot shoot straight
COYR
We could always hope for a deflection, but a shot on target, even a trickling shot could go in.
COYR
Can't judge shots just on that stat. A few been close. Better a shot whistling past the upright than trickling in for a comfy save.
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So far 8 shots and not one on target - we will not win owt if we cannot shoot straight
COYR
Can't judge shots just on that stat. A few been close. Better a shot whistling past the upright than trickling in for a comfy save.
The keeper can fumble a trickling shot on target. If it's going wide does it matter. It won't end up in the net.
Of course a keeper can fumble, but a shot whistling just wide could easily have gone the other side of the post and MUCH more likely to be a goal. Shots on target is an indication of good chances, but not something to hang your hat on.
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IDM
That game in 2008 was probably the best Rovers performance I've ever seen. We were magnificent from start to finish.
Happy Days 😊
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So far 8 shots and not one on target - we will not win owt if we cannot shoot straight
COYR
Can't judge shots just on that stat. A few been close. Better a shot whistling past the upright than trickling in for a comfy save.
The keeper can fumble a trickling shot on target. If it's going wide does it matter. It won't end up in the net.
Creating chances is unrelated to shots on target, you can create great chances without getting attempts in target, but creating chances means you've played well
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IDM
That game in 2008 was probably the best Rovers performance I've ever seen. We were magnificent from start to finish.
Happy Days 😊
It was indeed, seems a long way off now!
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Lost the game after 8 mins. Really need to stop giving teams a head start after ridiculous errors. Sounds like we created enough just couldnt put it away
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We're still comfortably in 4th place in the League 1 fair play stakes :cold:
Millwall now equal bottom.
According to BBC stats
There have only been 2 league games where we have conceded more free kicks than been awarded
We've had 13 yellow cars and 1 red. Opposition 27 yellows, no reds.
Maybe we need to be a bit more cynical on the pitch.
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Lost the game after 8 mins. Really need to stop giving teams a head start after ridiculous errors. Sounds like we created enough just couldnt put it away
Better than saturday though?
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We've had 13 yellow cars and 1 red. Opposition 27 yellows, no reds.
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Or 13 yellow cards even